McCaughey: Public Option "Health Care For The Healthy"

[billybob101013]

FUCK FOX NEWS THEY LIE

[goodfoot1971]

This lady's insinuation that ALL cases of cancer, diabetes, Heart disease are NOT preventable is just plain wrong!! Thanks Fox....lowered the journalistic bar again!!

[emineid]

7. Why is tort reform not even on the table with this administration? When obstetricians in some states pay $40,000 a year and other states pay $200,000 a year for malpractice, where do you think this discrepancy is coming from? You don't want a situation where the judges and the attorneys in a state are all in it together to screw the doctors, like they have in Illinois. Wait, our President is from Illinois. So there may be no hope, after all.

[goodfoot1971]

Because, according to the CBO, tort reform would account for a 0.04% savings. That's four HUNDREDTHS of ONE PERCENT!!! That's not a partisan viewpoint, that's the guys that just crunch the numbers.

[emineid]

Talk to your local hospital administrator. Any time they want to buy a $300,000 equipment or hire three $500,000 year specialists to be on call 24/7, they pull out "Yeah, it's expensive, but it's nothing compared to a million dollar lawsuit." Plus, the much of the CBO data you quote is from Texas, parts of which have INSANE malpractice atmosphere. Let the people who can benefit from tort reform reap the benefit, and leave the dead to bury the dead.

[emineid]

6. "Cost savings this, cost savings that..." What patients and doctors consider good medicine is expensive. Increase the wealth of the nation, increase the productivity of each person in the US, and we can pay for some of the increase in medical cost.

[emineid]

5. "Other countries have universal coverage..." Yes, even Honduras has universal coverage on paper. But you go there and so many people have poor health! It's easy for a government to hand out some sub-Medicaid card to everyone and say "We have universal coverage." Good luck getting doctors to see these patients, when most private doctors shuck Medicaid, even Medicare patients.

[emineid]

4. "Medicine is expensive because of evil insurance companies." Guess what? Medicine is expensive because the standard of care requires doctors to do expensive things. Any time someone says "chest pain," you've got an overnight ER workup, at the very least. Medicine is expensive because doctors order expensive tests and treatments. It ain't gonna change until all the Ivy League department chairmen say in unison, "Oh, you don't need elective heart cath" and establish cost-saving standard of care.

[emineid]

3. Prevention: Why do people live longer than people 100 years ago? A lot of it is due to modern plumbing, lack of nutritional deficiency, treating delivering mothers before they bleed to death. And prevention is expensive. You have to give Zocor to 40 people to prevent one cardiovascular event. We still do it because we place high value on human life, but studies just don't bear out money savings from preventive measures.

[emineid]

Let's dispel some silliness:

1. "Everyone with a car is required to have auto insurance, so why isn't everyone required to have health insurance?" No, you are not required to have comprehensive coverage, just liability. Imagine the uproar if everyone was required to have comprehensive collision coverage.

2. "Death panels are not in the bill." Try ordering some lab work on a patient with Medicare coverage. Medicare already handpicks which labs they pay for. Death panel is already a reality.

[watty024]

@emineid i don't have auto insurance. i don't have a car. that is my choice. is it my choice not to have a body? think before you ask questions.

[u4iclight]

How many people that are in favor of the bill have personally read the bill? I don't know of anyone that has read the bill that is in favor or it. Read the bill, you can download it on the internet, youre here anyways. Why is congress exempt from it? Why did they turn down public option? And why do they want the public not to have an choice in their own heath care?

[caltrop69]

*sigh*

I guess the enemy of my enemy is my...

Dammit! Who the hell IS Fox helping, anyway?

It seems like they're trying to help the Democrats by being the stupid straw man opposition.

I only one issue with national healthcare...It takes money from one group of people via force and gives it to others. Why are unhealthy people more important than the rest of us?

Cap N' Trade was the invention of Milton Friedman... Why are the Republicans so against it, now?

You partisans don't make sense.

[lapwiz]

FUCKING LIARS!

[lapwiz]

Hannity, did you read the bill you accuse others not to?

If you haven't every argument you put out are not your own but sobody else's interpretation of the bill.

Betsy is a liar, Jon Stweart proved she is a liar and all the disinformation based on her findings are nothing but PROPAGANDA AND MISINFORMATION.

hANNITY IS A AN ASHOLE AND A MURDOCK PROPAGANDA COMISSAR.

FOX IS A PATHETIC PROPAGANDA MACHINE FOR THE RICH.

[verstwo2]

very propaganda.

[1978RDC21]

I'm not a big Hannity fan, but at least they are saying, here is where this information comes from. It's not jokes (Barney Frank), it's not one-liners (Barack Obama), he's saying, 'on page 62 of the house proposal' (or whatever).

[verstwo2]

sure , he says 'here is where this information comes from' and then lies through his teeth about what that 'information' is. frank jokes about it and Obama 'one liners' it because DEATH PANELS ARE NOT IN THE BILL! This women is drumming up fear about what may happen in some distant future, not what's actually IN the bill.

[STEEEVVYZ]

Critics charge that the public plan will be subsidized by the government. Here they have their facts wrong. Under every plan that's being discussed on Capitol Hill, subsidies go to individuals and families who need them in order to afford healthcare, not to a public plan. Individuals and families use the subsidies to shop for the best care they can find. They're free to choose the public plan, but that's only one option. They could take their subsidy and buy a private plan just as easily.

[StephenColbertNation]

It's funny that now Fox news has been thoroughly discredited they start mixing in real stories with the usual garbage politics and that in turn discredits those real issues just because Fox is the network covering it. Notice when McCaughey is on The Daily Show Jon refers to what McCaughey is saying as hyperbole with little actual debate but then again McCaughey did A piss poor job articulating her points. The point is the current health care bill as it is, will be disastrous.

[keith92234hotmail]

I don't like health pan administrator's making $20,000,000 (20 million dollars a year and stock options). I don't trust for profit company's manging health care or nursing homes.

[keith92234hotmail]

What a talking point liar. Look at other countries and what they are doing compared to us. A death commission is a private HMO dropping me, excluding pre-existing conditions, and denying coverage or procedures. Filthy rich talking point , head,.

[SongsofFallenHeroes]

Cancer, Heart Disease, Lung Disease, Stroke, Diabetes... are all preventable conditions... Science!

[papalosopher]

Did anyone else see John Stewart de-MOL-ish this woman Thursday?

[jonytk]

What a bunch of lies, and even if it were true, (that is not), today that things are already done by for profit companies.

[jrobertwood]

I think the "blood wipe" at 2.00 is pretty vile.

[two2twinface]

Lol.

You know if you substitute the "Gov runned HMO (Public Option)" with "Private Insurance", and "important decisions ... given to a group of government bureaucrats" to "important decisions ... given to a group of insurance agency bureaucrats [who's mandate is to cut cost not to save lives]", this segment would ironically be the status quo.

[FenderGibsonWashburn]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[TwoAiren]

i must say this does kinda scare the uninformed and easily persuaded.

[burntonion05]

So this guy is supposed to reporting the news with the serious scary music in the background. OK

[Churchx77]

Fuck thats a loaded propaganda machine that FoxNews...

[jessicapeanut]

Nice Hair part Sean

[junkforkaryn]

good grief, this is a third rate horror movie, not a news segment. this channel is for idiots--no wonder nobody refers to them by name.

[BrianTotse]

LOL @ 1:59, with the blood splatter across the screen.

Honestly, if that doesn't show that Fox is trying to scare the hell out of you, I don't know what does.

Guys, there are numerous resources in which you can find the proposed bill, read it for yourself and see that all this nonsense and these frightening rumors are false. Trumped up as a last gasp of resistance by the Health Insurance giants to maintain their control and profits.

[patchesxc1]

I have both conservative and liberal views, but i lean to the left. But this just makes me sad because it is just lies and people believe this. Try reading provisions of the bill yourself

[andid]

Not only have neither of these two read the bill, they don't even understand the difference between government-run healthcare, a public option, and a single payer system.

Yes, you might actually have to read, Republicans. And almost no congressmen, including Republicans, read the bill. They have underlings do it for them. It's been done that way since long before this bill, and Hannity knows it.

[DeagleBeagle]

noone has read the 1,018 page bill. You are silly if you think senators actually should read bills, if they did that all they would be doing is reading bills. No, what they should do is have their staff read the bills to them, the parts that matter and then decide the best way to go.

[cagedtigersteve]

Wow, she is way off. For example diabetes in most cases is preventable with diet and exercise..those prevention methods are just common sense.  But what the prevention relates to is a diabetic going blind, having kidney failure, or losing a foot which are preventable if better healthcare is practiced upfront.

[DeagleBeagle]

well some diabetes are, but many are from people born with it. But yeah obesity and things like diabetes are caused by a person's lazy lifestyle, and that is always how they get it then pass it to their children unless they already have diabetes from their parent or maybe ancestors way down the line did something like that to make diabetes a genetric trait.

[cagedtigersteve]

I wonder have my kilopage books Hannity has read.

[C2apostle]

John Stewart revealed what a liar this lady is. Watch the interview at The Daily Show website.

[bleunt]

Why is there no organisation forcing news media to tell the truth?

[klingoncelt]

FCC regulations forbid news media from deliberately using journalists to lie to and mislead the public.

To slide past that, in early 2007, Faux quietly put the word out that they're an OPINION network that's staffed by personalities, not newsmen. They haven't made a big deal out of it though, because in their present incarnation they can mislead the public into believing that FIXED is a news channel.

[Ender1zero1]

2003 Fox News went to court and won the right under the First Amendment to lie, the FCC has a policy against news groups lying but it isn't a law and obviously the policy isn't enforced

[1978RDC21]

Aren't they quoting from the proposals?

Also, I know for a fact that a local news station has lied on the air, all they got (after a public outcry) was a censure from a news watchdog group. This wasn't a half-truth, this was a lie.

[Ender1zero1]

Like I said FCC has a policy against news groups lying, but it is only a policy it doesn't have the rule of Law behind it. Under the Law according to a Florida appeals court there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the US. McCaughey isn't telling a half truth or quoting from anything in the Health care plan and I have no idea where she gets the nonsense that falls out of mouth.

[edchilton]

Who could read this bill? Sean Hannity can't even lift it?

But seriously, in order to write something, you end up reading it at the same time... So it's an obvious lie when you say "No one has read this bill!" Ridiculous. But Sean knows better. He's just crafting his part of the BIG LIE in order to scare the bejesus out of his viewers. Mandatory euthanasia! Mandatory abortions! Mandatory sex changes! Old people and babies will be killed and we'll never have them again. Hes are now shes!

[blackknight007]

i'm tired of these guests sean. i'm tired of seeing powerful people on your show that just agree with you or lame opponents who just seem to keel over as soon they enter the fox news domain if they are to debate you.

chris matthews vs. sean hannity

lawrence o'donnell vs. sean hannity

bill maher vs. sean hannity

james carville vs. sean hannity

i would pay pay-per-view to see any of these

[mrbhave]

I'm still waiting for the pay-per-view waterboarding of Hannity. But he's obviously too timid.

[balanceseeker]

I agree in general, but leave Bill Maher off that list. He would play into exactly what Hannity would like to make liberals out to be.

Chris Matthews and the rest?  That would be priceless.

[scottyboyy]

Its hillarious!  Hannity can't read 1000 pages so he assumes the elected officials cant either.

[TooBrutalOrTheFuture]

If someone has a job where they get great health insurance, it's unfair for them to have to give that up.

What Obama doesn't realize is lots of people who don't have health insurance CHOOSE not to buy it....instead, they buy flat-panel televisions, go on vacations, buy expensive cars and generally live beyond their means.

The myth that only poor people scraping by don't have health insurance is nonsense....some people just have shitty priorities and complain when they hit a roadblack.

[klingoncelt]

Quit lying, toobrutal. Everyone knows what's really going on out there.

The bill will pass. The uninsured will be cared for.

If that gets your panties in a bunch, too bad.

[TooBrutalOrTheFuture]

How is it a "lie"? Are you saying there aren't people out there who choose to buy luxuries over health care?

[BrianTotse]

But it is important that they have healthcare, otherwise it's called uncompensated care, and that costs us ALL more.

Also, what is this woman going on about? Preventative care is excellent. It doesn't mean NOT taking care of and treating the sick, it means treating you and taking care of you BEFORE you're sick (To keep you from becoming sicker), too.

[TooBrutalOrTheFuture]

I agree there should be some reform and people do deserve care. Perhaps I came off sounding cold and uncaring.

My main issue is I get sick to my stomach when I hear about people not being able to "afford health insurance" when I personally know many people (and God bless them) who claim this very thing, yet go on 2 vacations a year, lease cars with leather seats and cd changers, buy iPhones, etc and I am sure it's not an isolated incident where people choose luxuries over health insurance.

[TooBrutalOrTheFuture]

In a nutshell what I am trying to say is if more people in this country took personal responsibility and prioritizes between NEEDS and WANTS, there would be a hell of a lot more insured people in the USA.

For the working poor who barely get by and truly cannot afford it, I feel for them, I really do. However, I think it's ludicrous that others claim they can't buy health insurance while they own an X-Box 360 and a whole collection of games they have bought themselves.

[klingoncelt]

Yes I am.

I know people that can barely affford rent and food.

To "prove" your point you pull an old, outdated stereotype out of your ass and expect people to accept it as gospel.

There are 46 million hardworking Americans that want healthcare and can not afford it.

I'm sure they'd like some luxury items, too, but they can barely afford to pay rent and buy food.

You're the only Youtuber I've seen spewing the Welfare Bum Theory.

[1978RDC21]

there are 45 million, there is about 15 million.

Of that 45 mil. some make over $50k/ year and choose not to buy it, some are young 20-somethings and choose not to buy it and finally some are illegal immigrants.

Now, the 15 million may need assistance, I'm sure a healthcare reform bill could pass to help them. But that doesn't give enough power to D.C. so they won't do that.

[klingoncelt]

The democrats would gladly do it. The republicans are fighting tooth and nail against it, which doesn't make sense because it's cheaper to send people to the doctor than it is sending them to the emergency room.

[balanceseeker]

And the other myth is that those same people with such priorities only hurt themselves financially... We all pay an extra $1000 a year in premiums just for the costs of providing health care to the uninsured.

Furthermore, how many times does Obama have to say that if you like your health insurance, you get to keep it? 10? 100? 1000 times?? To continue to make this claim in spite of countless non-partisan looks at the bill saying otherwise is just sad.

[JustificationNation]

and others like myself, get denied for silly ass reasons like being 20 lb over weight, but you don't care to hear such things, do you?

[TooBrutalOrTheFuture]

I don't care to hear such things because being 20 lbs overweight shouldn't be a huge obstacle for you to overcome if it's the only reason you're being denied.

Are you saying you choose to be 20 lbs overweight and uninsured rather than taking an initiative to lose some fat?

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but that is just foolish. Anyone who is too lazy to live a healthier lifestyle and rather chooses to stay fat and use it as a scapegoat for not having insurance gets NO PITY from me.

[BrianTotse]

Right, sure there are some people with priorities that are out of order.

These people are not the ones who need this bill. The ones who need this bill are the people who don't have healthcare because they are simply too poor to afford it.

They get sick, recieve care at hospitals, and not only does it financially break them (Which causes them to require government aid, like welfare), it costs US more money.

Insurance for all will save this country untold billions.

[hardy82]

Idiot! Such a load of bullshit. Doesn't he realize that this is exactly how the current system works? Only, that the insurance is not only trying to be cost effective, but to maximize profits on top of that... pure ignorance.

[klingoncelt]

He knows. The right wing thinks they're fooling everyone with their lies.