Good shit, a bit unfair though because the flex is a 212 and it's under a computer desk, which looks to be like the perfect size for it, so its getting "boxy" and the Mesa is played through a 412 with the dude right next to it. Obviously if you have a 2000 dollar amp with another amp that costs as much as your cab...I think the Mesa will win. Not knockin the flextone though, with some equing and studio work it could sound just like the Mesa
Mesa Boogie is metal, clean, and everything in between go to Mesaboogie go to the artist section see kirk Hammett from Metallica, John Petrucci, Andy Timmons,and others Kirk loves Mesa! He said,only Mesa can he the tones .See for yourself what the Masters have to say
sound is diff cuz camera mic is closer to Mesa than the Line 6, you can hear it, of co8urse a cheap vid cam speaker will sound better right in front of a 4x12 where the 2x12 is way over under a table...duh
I think this is an exelent video to compair sounds, and I see all this guys bitching about the line 6 tubes or digital. DUDES for 2,500 - 3,000 bucks more of course the MESA it's got to sound better lol.
All I can say is, talking shit about a Flextone iii XL READ THE MANUAL play with it I've owned mine for 7 months and every day I learn something new with this amp, we do covers from Tool, Alice in chains, RHCP, STP etc and I have all these different tones in a click of a button
@mikebike74 I really dont think even expert audiophiles would be able to tell the difference in a double blind study.
The tones in this vid do vary slightly through my pro studio headphones but than can be adjusted. The line 6 has more bass in this vid and the mesa has more top end presence. Easy fixed.
I've used the Flex for about 3 years myself, gigging regularly and even used it for recording. It constantly sounded thin and compressed (boxy, if you will) when I would go back and listen to live shows and such. After shutting off the Cabinet Modeling and not using the compressor all while pulling up the volume a bit, this thing now rivals my Fender Twin! The Hiwatt model is amazing on this..as for distorted tones, I use good pedals ;-) TS9->Fulltone OCD-> Keeley BD2!
i own a flextone 3, and i was just wondering, which amp you find to be more versatile, and which one has better clean tones in your oppinion? thank you, great vid
I've used the Flextone for about 3 years now in my funk band. Clean tone is pretty essential to me, and I've used the Hiwatt Model exclusively (its the 'red' channel on Jazz/Clean spot). You could really push the drive a bit before it breaks up..very very crispy and full. I'd take off the speaker cab simulator though, the Celestions are good as is. (to get it off, hold down the amp model button and turn to Line6 Clean)..kill the compressor & add the noise gate as well!
IS there anyway I can conveince u to post your settings for the mesa? Sounds clean. Just got me a 3 channel duel recto and still trying to find my sound
One's processed with a little reverb delay and one isn't. It's all preference. All the "dry heads" and "lead singers" will want the Mesa the rest with ear and taste will want the Line 6.
hey bro. after watching your vid i got convinced, but i realize theres a XL and Plus, whats the difference? is it size? and whats your opinion on the fact that they stop making this ampm, i need this amp for the dual and triple rectifier, sounds pretty close
wait...was the flextone also going through the 4x12? even though the flextone was farther away from the camera (volume seems much lower) i think it sounded pretty good compared to the mesa.
If this is only using the mic in the camera than it is not a fair comparison. the position of the camera relative to the speaker was completely different for the two amps. Try doing this again with the amps miced.
Thanks for the post....proves what i've been saying all along...that u can tell the difference (even on utubes compressed transmission) between the quality of an amplifier.
The floorboard controller is great. The amp is very average without it. There is no delay in switching from clean to overdrive channels its instantaneous
Line 6 should pay you for this, guys ;) Their own demos just suck. I'm sure that lots of people will seriously consider buying flextone after watchin your vid, I'm thinking about it too
Huge range of amps on the market, but advice would be dependant on what your planning on doing with the amp. i.e. music style, live use or studio/home use, number of required channels etc
Spider valve is decent. I really like the flextone , its been great I won a flextone II which I bought about 8 years ago, its been gigged used for recording, rehearsals and home practice for years and has been very reliable. My bandmates both own flextone iii's which have a better interface and floorboard controller and sounds great aswell
i totally agree with that. was at the store today and tested some spiders and the flextone III. I personally find the spider valve pretty ugly. The flextone was nice. i'd prefer the flex. the gate sucks a bit when you get into highgain sounds and staccato playing. Think thats why you cannot boogie for that money.
LOL. LIVE road king would be more 3d sounding, flextone would sound very plain,one dimensional. Flextone is muddy on this video, it would be muddier live.
I've had mark IV and Rectifier, Mark IV was warm,fluid but not so thick, and it was much more generic sounding than my current amp - marshall. It wasn't responsive to guitar change as much as marshall.
It just depends on taste, I don't like mesa sound, especially buzzy-edgy-recto-modern sound(imo vintage was quite good but too loose sounding)
The thing with Mesa's(I own a mark IV) is that the single note lines are soooo thick and full sounding, they fill up rooms. where as most amps are generic sounding and thin.
If I was in the audience I would not hear a difference. . but as a guitar player the Mesa has more fullness. But wonder what the diff would be if both were EQ'd the same? The Flextone is impressive and can be found used for 300 bucks or less. . and not as much weight to mess with for gigging.
the mesa of course sounds louder cause it is and you can't beat a tube amps tone but the line 6 does an amazing job of replicating boutique quality tones and it REALLY does justify it's pricetag unlike the mesa i would only pay that kind of money for bogner suhrs soldanos and other high end GOOD quality amps mesas and marshalls are just what everyone THINKS are the best cause they're the most popular names. not to say mesas are bad cause they aren't but they're not worth $1800 for a HEAD
Robin check out musicians friend, this Line 6 flextone sells for $699 the boogies are way overpriced. Boogies are over a $1400.00. You can Buy a Engl Screamer for around $1200. Hardly 3 times as much $ but they are 3 times more amp.Yes its more than the line 6 but the line 6 isnt a true amp. Do some research my friend.
the screamer is hardly an average of all ENGL's. in fact it's one of the most affordable. most of them are a lot more expensive than it. anyways, my point is that, though ENGL's would blow this amp away, it's an unfair comparison to make and the Flextone is a great modelling amp for the price.
amps are really all about what tone you want. avenge sevenfold uses line 6. Of course john petrucci uses mesa, Micheal angelo batio uses marshall, rusty cooley uses diamond, jeff loomis and chris broderick use ENGL, joe satriani uses peavey, steve vai uses carvin, but they all use some effect pedals too. its all abou what you play
Secondly I didn't say that Marshall amps sucks... Marshall Amps are awesome, I love them and I almosr choose the MG Series... BUT for metal, I'd go for a Mesa. I know that some metal guitarist use Marshall but they often modify them to be as they want...
I'm not there to say that Mesa are better than this one... Both are great, they are the best amps ever, but you have your opinion, I have mine, you got to respect that too!
PS You also forgot to mention Paul Gilbert and Doug Aldrich
well mesa by themselves arent very good for metal also. they are very reliant on pedals such as compressors,reverb, NS, etc. I own a triple rect and i was not satisfied with the dry tone when i first bought it so i bought a BOSS ME-50 but even with everything on the me-50 im still not completely satisfied
Bullshit- I can name 10 (or more) guitarists that use stock Marshalls that have killer tone. You might not prefer the Marshall sound,but that is a different issue.
Marshall amps are fuckin shit guys. They are nowhere near the quality of mesa, framus, or peavey. They dont capture any of the nuances that make rock/metal guitar great. That XGODFATHAX dude is a fucking dumbass haha. Get some taste for tone asshole
i have a taste for tone, and tone is personal preference, you cant tell me what amps are better cus different amps sounds better to anyones ears, some people like mesa, and some like marshall, but marshall is THE rock sound, its personal preference ass wipe, and for your info, i happen to sell mesas aswell as marshall and i always say, i reccomened the mesa and the randalls for metal, and the marshalls and the voxs for a good old rock tone, its preference, you troll.
Well, For A Budget For Under £200, Then An Orange Crush 30R Might Be The Best, Has A Good Crunch For Pop Punk, Or The Line 6 Spider (My Practice Amp For When I Want To Keep Things Quiet) Is Good For Modelling Sounds. The Vox DA20 Is Also Another Good Modelling Amp And has Good Crunch For Pop Punk, Or A Marshall MG (Be Careful, Marshall Budgets Are Not That Good) But The Very Best Amp I Would Say Is The Hughes And Kettner Edition Blue 30 DFX, Try Some Amps At Your Local Music Shop.
Pm me for some suggestions as the comment wall isnt the best place, ill send you some links if you tell me exactly what you want tone wise. So tube and stack, for cheap and not expensive, look at the bugeras, nice amps, pm me for some suggestions.
why do people still play poppunk lol, I hope your like 15, anyway i think the only thing that matters is that you buy tube so you get the right response for palm muted parts. Tom wasnt too concerned about tone considering his guitar offers no tone control or pickup selection
It´s all a question of taste. Many prefer Marshall while others prefer Mesa. In my opinion nothing beats the Mark Series from Mesa/Boogie the new mark V is a tone monster i think Mesa are nº1 and Engl follows.
stop sounding like n00b guitar players. marshall can do metal and so can mesa along with many other brands. obvioulsy it ultimately depends on the actual amp.
you must be the most retared person in the world do you realize that marshall is is one of the most used amps for metal and my marshall JVM and way more gain than any crappy mesa.
and it doesnt sounds emo at all it sounds like Progressive metal noob...
and wtf to call me emo? u think tht hurts kid? COme on grow up, ure just so pathetic being a douche here... the only comment tht people wanted to know is which amp u think sound better thts all...
hey kevinharbour, name ten artists playing Mesa, i can name loads of marshall players, John 5, Slash, Zakk Wylde, David Gilmour, Jim Root, Kerry King, Mick Thomson, Billy Squier, Sergio Pizzorno, John Petrucci, Eric Clapton....do you really want me to embaress you by naming more cus i will, the only artists i have seen playin mesa is Tom Delonge and he is shite, only pop punk, now your stuff noob.
Tom Delonge, James Hetfield, Dave Grohl, Kurt cobain(played mesa boogie), Avril Lavinge, buckethead, bruce springsteen, Carlos santana, Joe trohman, Matt Tuck, patrick stump, and many many more play mesa boogie
Yeah But They Also Play...DUM DUM DUM Marshall, Santana, Mesa IS Way To Modern, And Its Not On His Gear List. Way more people play marshall and fender than mesa i will say that.
James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett from Metallica ( I know that Kirk has his Signature model but he used a lot of Mesa like the Mark IV and IIC+)
There's also John Petrucci, the guys from Killswitch Engage, Blasko of Ozzy Osbourne, Carlos Santana of course, and to respond you, Jim Root of Slipknot use Mesa, Dave Kushner from Velvet Revolver, Shaun Morgan from Seether and much more... and Petrucci don't play with Marshall WTF...
I'm going to make another comment because it's too long!
david gilmour? (plays hiwatt amps and fender twins almost his entire career he even has a sig hiwatt amp), JOHN PETRUCCI?????????????? dude comeon its very common knowledge petrucci plays mesa he has since his first studio album in 92' ... jim root plays orange...mick thompson plays rivera (he also has a sig amp by rivera) dude how bout you get your facts straight before just bashing something it just makes you look stupid but w/e its youtube u wouldnt be the first one
yes the jvm has way more unusable gain, and a very unnatural compressed voicing when cranked the only usable tones i had with mine (had it for 4 months) was gain at around 11' oclcok when the master was pushed ... so yeah it has a ton of "gain" that makes it sounds like a thin transistor amp when pushed past 3' oclock good job marshall ! an overpriced 4 channel version of the jcm2000 !
its a matter of opinion, my marshall has had none of the stuff you just mentioned, i personally do not like mesa, too modern, i like the old british sound and the nice fender cleans. enjoy your mes though bud :)
Marshalls are amps, doesnt matter what they are for, Even Zakk Wylde himself said and i quote 'Metal, Blues, Rock Or Indie, Marshall does it all' Or maybe you wanna hear what Slash has to say? 'Marshall is fantastic for everything, wether it be rock, metal or for gettin pure tone, Nothing beats a Marshall'. Plus Kerry King Has A Signature Marshall Amp and he plays Metal, So think about what you say you unintelligant Cunt.
i didnt say that. i was arguin over the fact that someone on this video said marshalls arent for metal, and i was merely pointing out they are made for anything so i used two metal guitar players and a classic rock player who uses marshalls as an example, so actually know what im replaying about before flaming it cus what you sed was utter stupid, though i agree you dont have to buy marshall but you sayin a childish comment, 'oh i have to buy marshal cus he says so' wah wah. lol think about it
but that's what it sounded like to me. so stop crying. and still not everyone loves or likes marshall. I never said marshall sounds like shit. I only said that in MY opinion there are better amps and it's all a matter of personal taste.
so cope with it or lock yourself in a room with your marshall amp
and if you dont like marshall amps, something must be wrong with you they have the best sound, easily the best sound, your not a true guitar player and many people would agree marshalls are the best all round amps, they sound better than mesa and orange etc, fenders are good but made more for classic rock, your argument is shite my friend, i will say no more so dont bother replyin as i cant be arsed to debate over youtube, now if you all excuse im, gunna go play with my sexy marshall :P
as an owner of a mesa mark IV , dual rectifier and a marshall jcm 800 versatility goes hands down to mesa its not even a contest...the only advantage my marshall has over my mesas (this is the only reason i havnt sold it) is for that middy british rock flavor i get from it that i cant get from my mesa...and the marshall cleans ??? (atleast on the jcm800) are a joke sorry
the first marshall amp was made before the bassman came out, marshall just didnt releases there amps until after fender but marshall are now the biggest amp company in the world, i sell amplifiers and marshall, vox and orange are the biggest sellers, i reccomend the mesa for metal but not many people buy it surprisingly cus they say its only good for one thing.
the mesa has tubes and therefore must be ran louder to acheive decent to great tone. and because of the way it is mic'd/ the kind of mic used, it gives it a REALLY overly distorted sound which makes it sounds kind of bad. but the line6 lacks, punch, resonance, and presence and the overall "alive" feel of the mesa roadking IRL.
mesa's got more crunch and btw that's a video, so you wouldn't hear that amount of differences in the sound which you would heard if you listened to both amps in real life. and also the flextone sound very mild, when mesa's got a cutting tone. of course tubes are better that processors))
i think the mesa sounds like a fart. they are both great amps, but i think that i would have to go with the flextone. for one, you can buy 6 flextones or one mesa. but thats just based on price. i use an hd 147 head and i can pretty much squeeze any tone out of that and my ibanez guitars.
In my opinion I think the mesa is better. It just sounds cleaner. I dont know if it's the placement of the camera or something else but in this vid the mesa winz.
Ok...i can make this riff sound similar even with a 100$ amp if the mesa volume is under 1 or 2....put it over 4 and you will listen the power..monsters like this are not made for home...the flextone is a pretty good amp for homeuse..but its digital...it lacks dynamics,power,and many thing that the mesa gives you...
very similar, but in the end, I prefer a Mesa. The build quality is great and the tone is amazing. The Line 6 is also, but Line 6 is too digital based for me. It depends on amp modeling rather than holding it's own unique tone. Boh are great amps though.
given the price difference, the line 6 definitely performed well even for being a fraction of the cost. im sure that the build quality of the mesa is more reliable but for sound they are both great.
I dont think people are putting to mind THE PRICES. Mesa is obviously going to win this, But for the money I would go for flextone. and especially the flextone if your only looking for a practice amp or small gigging amp. I mean, Like krankank put "Lol, a 350 doller amp vs a 3500 doller amp."
Both were dry to make the video as comparable as possible. But its not the best comparison in the world, it was just a quick video as we happened to have the two amps sitting side by side.
Definitely. You've also got to keep in mind that the mesa was pointed at the camera, and the flextone away from the camera, since the camera mic is what we're hearing.
maybe im fucking crazy but the flextone sounds tits! its deeper than the mesa but then again it could be the settings,but from what i can tell, personally i prefer the line 6. nice upload bro
Good shit, a bit unfair though because the flex is a 212 and it's under a computer desk, which looks to be like the perfect size for it, so its getting "boxy" and the Mesa is played through a 412 with the dude right next to it. Obviously if you have a 2000 dollar amp with another amp that costs as much as your cab...I think the Mesa will win. Not knockin the flextone though, with some equing and studio work it could sound just like the Mesa
westdyolf 1 month ago
I actually prefer the Flextone here...
themodernguitarist 4 months ago 4
I have a several tube amps and love them all, but I am still impressed with my Flextone III as well. It sounds especially good with my Les Paul.
swisskeen 4 months ago
tubes = tone.
jw11432 8 months ago
Mesa Boogie is metal, clean, and everything in between go to Mesaboogie go to the artist section see kirk Hammett from Metallica, John Petrucci, Andy Timmons,and others Kirk loves Mesa! He said,only Mesa can he the tones .See for yourself what the Masters have to say
fddustin 9 months ago
@fddustin sorry man but kirk use's randall since 07 :P but he used mesa for about ten years and before that a jcm800 mod....
vampreen12356 8 months ago
Mesa wins
FATALITY
ShreddingDragon 1 year ago
sound is diff cuz camera mic is closer to Mesa than the Line 6, you can hear it, of co8urse a cheap vid cam speaker will sound better right in front of a 4x12 where the 2x12 is way over under a table...duh
Amotoman450 1 year ago
sound is diff cuz camera mic is closer to Mesa than the Line 6, you can hear it
Amotoman450 1 year ago
Haha, the Line 6 is like a scrawny punk acting tough. The Mesa is a really tough guy acting tough.
omgScrub 1 year ago
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Line 6 blows in comparison. No balls.
precaryus 1 year ago
Line 6 blows in comparison. No balls.
precaryus 1 year ago
I think this is an exelent video to compair sounds, and I see all this guys bitching about the line 6 tubes or digital. DUDES for 2,500 - 3,000 bucks more of course the MESA it's got to sound better lol.
All I can say is, talking shit about a Flextone iii XL READ THE MANUAL play with it I've owned mine for 7 months and every day I learn something new with this amp, we do covers from Tool, Alice in chains, RHCP, STP etc and I have all these different tones in a click of a button
mikebike74 1 year ago
@mikebike74 I really dont think even expert audiophiles would be able to tell the difference in a double blind study.
The tones in this vid do vary slightly through my pro studio headphones but than can be adjusted. The line 6 has more bass in this vid and the mesa has more top end presence. Easy fixed.
trulynot 1 year ago
@mikebike74
I've used the Flex for about 3 years myself, gigging regularly and even used it for recording. It constantly sounded thin and compressed (boxy, if you will) when I would go back and listen to live shows and such. After shutting off the Cabinet Modeling and not using the compressor all while pulling up the volume a bit, this thing now rivals my Fender Twin! The Hiwatt model is amazing on this..as for distorted tones, I use good pedals ;-) TS9->Fulltone OCD-> Keeley BD2!
disissanchy 11 months ago 2
like mesa more out of two
Strata6600 1 year ago
i own a flextone 3, and i was just wondering, which amp you find to be more versatile, and which one has better clean tones in your oppinion? thank you, great vid
bigtom737 1 year ago
@bigtom737
I've used the Flextone for about 3 years now in my funk band. Clean tone is pretty essential to me, and I've used the Hiwatt Model exclusively (its the 'red' channel on Jazz/Clean spot). You could really push the drive a bit before it breaks up..very very crispy and full. I'd take off the speaker cab simulator though, the Celestions are good as is. (to get it off, hold down the amp model button and turn to Line6 Clean)..kill the compressor & add the noise gate as well!
disissanchy 11 months ago
IS there anyway I can conveince u to post your settings for the mesa? Sounds clean. Just got me a 3 channel duel recto and still trying to find my sound
Dialemic 1 year ago
Mesa delivers a better tone overall. Line 6 is just a dressed up speaker.
BibleBlack42 1 year ago
ey man ... EQ that you used for the Flextone III Line ...?
JoshuaAVO 1 year ago
gotta go with the real thing... I bought Line 6 and sent back RIGHT AWAY... so cheap compared to the read deal Rectifier
Mark V sounds amazing also...
Save up and buy an amp that truly does something great instead of something that does a lot in an average way
squirttilithurts 1 year ago
i think you can´t compare the roadking and the flextone because the roadking costs much more and is actually worth the money
Feileiks 1 year ago
can you give me te settings of the flextone ?? PLEASE
Dzejk16 1 year ago
One's processed with a little reverb delay and one isn't. It's all preference. All the "dry heads" and "lead singers" will want the Mesa the rest with ear and taste will want the Line 6.
killyourtyrant 1 year ago
hey bro. after watching your vid i got convinced, but i realize theres a XL and Plus, whats the difference? is it size? and whats your opinion on the fact that they stop making this ampm, i need this amp for the dual and triple rectifier, sounds pretty close
mikyj139 1 year ago
wait...was the flextone also going through the 4x12? even though the flextone was farther away from the camera (volume seems much lower) i think it sounded pretty good compared to the mesa.
dubox37 1 year ago
whats yours settings on flextone?
DaveMustainefan666 1 year ago
If this is only using the mic in the camera than it is not a fair comparison. the position of the camera relative to the speaker was completely different for the two amps. Try doing this again with the amps miced.
toelessfoot 1 year ago
Thanks for the post....proves what i've been saying all along...that u can tell the difference (even on utubes compressed transmission) between the quality of an amplifier.
Guitarman55555 1 year ago
mesa blows that out of the water.
xMACx982 1 year ago
hey man, whats the footswitch like for the flextone? is there a noticable delay in going from say a clean patch to a dirty patch?
bau03187 1 year ago
The floorboard controller is great. The amp is very average without it. There is no delay in switching from clean to overdrive channels its instantaneous
craigmcarthur1 1 year ago
what flextone settings do you use here?
HenriGibson 1 year ago
can you send me this song's tab man?? Please !! :)
Amazing riff!
ForceDoG 1 year ago
Afraid I dont have any riffs dude, otherwise I would send them. We dont tend to tab stuff out, we just teach other the riffs at rehearsals
craigmcarthur1 1 year ago
ha! i see now, you've posted more vids! not just the metal!
sorry, i'm retarded
but i can play more than 3 chords. 4 is more than 3, isn't it?
katsadako 1 year ago
No worries man. I play a pile of different styles, hence the need for several amps and a ton of effetcs!
craigmcarthur1 1 year ago
This video made me buy my mesa boogie roadster! I realy like the more punchier tone that you get from a mesa!
(sry for bad english)
LineAkarlsson 2 years ago
Line 6 should pay you for this, guys ;) Their own demos just suck. I'm sure that lots of people will seriously consider buying flextone after watchin your vid, I'm thinking about it too
qqryq90 2 years ago
me too. i'm looking at one, researching on net.
personally a little disappointed with all the metal heads cranking the distortion!
would like to here the cleaner jazz and country sounds, with effects on them. search continues!
but thanks for posting, still good!
katsadako 1 year ago
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ofHuman 2 years ago
hi guys i own a line6 spider 3 and a gibson tom delonge es-333 and i want a tube amp Xd some help ?
lastangelsofrock 2 years ago
Huge range of amps on the market, but advice would be dependant on what your planning on doing with the amp. i.e. music style, live use or studio/home use, number of required channels etc
craigmcarthur1 2 years ago
thanks, so the 75 watts is definetly plenty loud and clear? I was thinking of buying an external cabinet if I ever needed it
lhodgson999 2 years ago
Yeh i would say so. Should give u enough headroom for cleans and enough volume for lead work
craigmcarthur1 2 years ago
is the flextone iii 1x12 able to cut it for gigging? Nice Playing by the way
lhodgson999 2 years ago
Yup I would say its more than adequate for most gigs. Any ig where its not loud enough you would be miccing up your amp anyways
craigmcarthur1 2 years ago
what pickups are you using?
WhenTheMoonFalls 2 years ago
guys spider 4 or flextone??
metalheadds 2 years ago
Spider valve is decent. I really like the flextone , its been great I won a flextone II which I bought about 8 years ago, its been gigged used for recording, rehearsals and home practice for years and has been very reliable. My bandmates both own flextone iii's which have a better interface and floorboard controller and sounds great aswell
craigmcarthur1 2 years ago
i totally agree with that. was at the store today and tested some spiders and the flextone III. I personally find the spider valve pretty ugly. The flextone was nice. i'd prefer the flex. the gate sucks a bit when you get into highgain sounds and staccato playing. Think thats why you cannot boogie for that money.
mittellos 2 years ago
mesa all the way
the line 6 sounds good but it cant stand vs the mesa
dante316a 2 years ago 3
I agree with dante316a. The Flextone puts out a fantastic sound, especially for the price, but the Roadking has 10x more character.
SBguitar3592 2 years ago
LOL. LIVE road king would be more 3d sounding, flextone would sound very plain,one dimensional. Flextone is muddy on this video, it would be muddier live.
I've had mark IV and Rectifier, Mark IV was warm,fluid but not so thick, and it was much more generic sounding than my current amp - marshall. It wasn't responsive to guitar change as much as marshall.
It just depends on taste, I don't like mesa sound, especially buzzy-edgy-recto-modern sound(imo vintage was quite good but too loose sounding)
wiory 2 years ago
Man, close your mouth. Your bottom lip is so gross hanging out about a mile from your face.
steeldragonjovi 2 years ago 2
lmao
hirskdubbi 2 years ago
The thing with Mesa's(I own a mark IV) is that the single note lines are soooo thick and full sounding, they fill up rooms. where as most amps are generic sounding and thin.
tenaciousjp 2 years ago
Flextone III XL
craigmcarthur1 2 years ago
Road King > Line 6
squirttilithurts 2 years ago 22
Orange thunderverb 200< road king.
Morethanl1f3 2 years ago 3
If I was in the audience I would not hear a difference. . but as a guitar player the Mesa has more fullness. But wonder what the diff would be if both were EQ'd the same? The Flextone is impressive and can be found used for 300 bucks or less. . and not as much weight to mess with for gigging.
74LesPaul 2 years ago
the mesa of course sounds louder cause it is and you can't beat a tube amps tone but the line 6 does an amazing job of replicating boutique quality tones and it REALLY does justify it's pricetag unlike the mesa i would only pay that kind of money for bogner suhrs soldanos and other high end GOOD quality amps mesas and marshalls are just what everyone THINKS are the best cause they're the most popular names. not to say mesas are bad cause they aren't but they're not worth $1800 for a HEAD
brandon5pennies 2 years ago 4
in Russia new Mesa Triple Rectifier costs$3000, Roadking II - $5000
MetalGuitarOne 2 years ago 3
In Soviet Russia, Mesa Boogie buys you.
ketutscope 2 years ago 27
die
MetalGuitarOne 2 years ago
i lol'd great
Dougie666 2 years ago
@ketutscope Soviet Russia !?!?!? Are you fucking retarded?
KawamurAsun 9 months ago
Agreed. After owning a mesa I would say that is true. However two channel dual and triple rectifiers sound amazing!
dsjkak1 2 years ago 2
mesa sound better but mostly because you cut the mids tu much on the line 6 , get similar eq settings and both will sound great !
p3la0 2 years ago
mesa sounded a bit better but look at the price difference :p
Tretti12 2 years ago 3
sad to say.....
i liked the flextones sound better
i find that very odd
ic300x 2 years ago 4
Chck out Engl amps they blow these away!
divgtrslingr 2 years ago
yeh Engl are the best there is along with vox, vox and engl definitly blow these away
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
yeah, for like 3x the price you'd hope they would
RobinJones101 2 years ago
Robin check out musicians friend, this Line 6 flextone sells for $699 the boogies are way overpriced. Boogies are over a $1400.00. You can Buy a Engl Screamer for around $1200. Hardly 3 times as much $ but they are 3 times more amp.Yes its more than the line 6 but the line 6 isnt a true amp. Do some research my friend.
divgtrslingr 2 years ago 2
the screamer is hardly an average of all ENGL's. in fact it's one of the most affordable. most of them are a lot more expensive than it. anyways, my point is that, though ENGL's would blow this amp away, it's an unfair comparison to make and the Flextone is a great modelling amp for the price.
RobinJones101 2 years ago 2
amps are really all about what tone you want. avenge sevenfold uses line 6. Of course john petrucci uses mesa, Micheal angelo batio uses marshall, rusty cooley uses diamond, jeff loomis and chris broderick use ENGL, joe satriani uses peavey, steve vai uses carvin, but they all use some effect pedals too. its all abou what you play
beatch247 2 years ago
Avenged Sevenfold uses Marshall JCM800's, not Lune 6. They have never uses Line 6's. The amp they used previously were Bogners.
GAMENDINGS4U 2 years ago
Secondly I didn't say that Marshall amps sucks... Marshall Amps are awesome, I love them and I almosr choose the MG Series... BUT for metal, I'd go for a Mesa. I know that some metal guitarist use Marshall but they often modify them to be as they want...
I'm not there to say that Mesa are better than this one... Both are great, they are the best amps ever, but you have your opinion, I have mine, you got to respect that too!
PS You also forgot to mention Paul Gilbert and Doug Aldrich
kevenharbour 2 years ago
well mesa by themselves arent very good for metal also. they are very reliant on pedals such as compressors,reverb, NS, etc. I own a triple rect and i was not satisfied with the dry tone when i first bought it so i bought a BOSS ME-50 but even with everything on the me-50 im still not completely satisfied
Tb0neZ5 2 years ago
No surprise , Flextone lose.
Daclaem 2 years ago
The tube amp sounds better
lizardneck 2 years ago
Bullshit- I can name 10 (or more) guitarists that use stock Marshalls that have killer tone. You might not prefer the Marshall sound,but that is a different issue.
TimeLordGuitar 2 years ago
Marshall amps are fuckin shit guys. They are nowhere near the quality of mesa, framus, or peavey. They dont capture any of the nuances that make rock/metal guitar great. That XGODFATHAX dude is a fucking dumbass haha. Get some taste for tone asshole
Killswitch190 2 years ago
Ur just a plain idiot Marshall made the rock sound.
Daclaem 2 years ago
i have a taste for tone, and tone is personal preference, you cant tell me what amps are better cus different amps sounds better to anyones ears, some people like mesa, and some like marshall, but marshall is THE rock sound, its personal preference ass wipe, and for your info, i happen to sell mesas aswell as marshall and i always say, i reccomened the mesa and the randalls for metal, and the marshalls and the voxs for a good old rock tone, its preference, you troll.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
i play punkrock/poppunk like Tom Delonge what would you recemand me for an amp
lastangelsofrock 2 years ago
Well, For A Budget For Under £200, Then An Orange Crush 30R Might Be The Best, Has A Good Crunch For Pop Punk, Or The Line 6 Spider (My Practice Amp For When I Want To Keep Things Quiet) Is Good For Modelling Sounds. The Vox DA20 Is Also Another Good Modelling Amp And has Good Crunch For Pop Punk, Or A Marshall MG (Be Careful, Marshall Budgets Are Not That Good) But The Very Best Amp I Would Say Is The Hughes And Kettner Edition Blue 30 DFX, Try Some Amps At Your Local Music Shop.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
i have a LINE 6 spider 75 watt i'm looking for a tube amp (head and cabinet
lastangelsofrock 2 years ago
Pm me for some suggestions as the comment wall isnt the best place, ill send you some links if you tell me exactly what you want tone wise. So tube and stack, for cheap and not expensive, look at the bugeras, nice amps, pm me for some suggestions.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
You should be slapped for saying john petrucci plays marshall. I challenge you to name one marshal player that is better than jp! LOL good luck
steamysheets 2 years ago
Okay then, John 5.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
Micheal angelo batio uses marshall .
beatch247 2 years ago
why do people still play poppunk lol, I hope your like 15, anyway i think the only thing that matters is that you buy tube so you get the right response for palm muted parts. Tom wasnt too concerned about tone considering his guitar offers no tone control or pickup selection
moneyonthegrill 2 years ago
It´s all a question of taste. Many prefer Marshall while others prefer Mesa. In my opinion nothing beats the Mark Series from Mesa/Boogie the new mark V is a tone monster i think Mesa are nº1 and Engl follows.
Toyotex 2 years ago
yep, in my opinion too
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mesaesptruck 2 years ago
If it were me i would go with a Raven, good for metal, good for all the heavy stuff. That Mesa's a good one tho.
canyoureadthis123 2 years ago
YOU FUCKIN SUCK!!!!
rama6maiden 2 years ago
stop sounding like n00b guitar players. marshall can do metal and so can mesa along with many other brands. obvioulsy it ultimately depends on the actual amp.
Diisafatslag 2 years ago
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get a marshall kills both of these
hiddenplan1 2 years ago
lol marshal is not ment for metal go away marshal boy
ThisRandomBoy 2 years ago
you must be the most retared person in the world do you realize that marshall is is one of the most used amps for metal and my marshall JVM and way more gain than any crappy mesa.
hiddenplan1 2 years ago
more gain doesn't matter..
ketutscope 2 years ago
fucking hell u dont need to cry about it u fucking baby getting all defensive, fucking internet warrior
ThisRandomBoy 2 years ago
i know more artist playing metal with mesa boogie than marshall... mesa is also one of the most used amp so stfu....
the most used amps are (not in order) mesa, marshall, peavey and fender
kevenharbour 2 years ago
no you stfu what are you classifying as metal. emo dosent count you dumb cunt.
hiddenplan1 2 years ago
stfu im no emo at all...
im listening t Metallica, MEgadeth, All that remains, disturbed, killswitch engage, bulllet for my valentine, death and much more...
im classifing all these band in metal and if u dont ure just a noob who doenst know musical styles
ps all these bands are in different types of metal as: Trash Metal, Metal COre, Progressive MEtal, etc... i didnt wanted to classify them even more
kevenharbour 2 years ago
THrash metalll!!!!
Trash is Rap!!
Bandana112 2 years ago
and it doesnt sounds emo at all it sounds like Progressive metal noob...
and wtf to call me emo? u think tht hurts kid? COme on grow up, ure just so pathetic being a douche here... the only comment tht people wanted to know is which amp u think sound better thts all...
kevenharbour 2 years ago
hey kevinharbour, name ten artists playing Mesa, i can name loads of marshall players, John 5, Slash, Zakk Wylde, David Gilmour, Jim Root, Kerry King, Mick Thomson, Billy Squier, Sergio Pizzorno, John Petrucci, Eric Clapton....do you really want me to embaress you by naming more cus i will, the only artists i have seen playin mesa is Tom Delonge and he is shite, only pop punk, now your stuff noob.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
Tom Delonge, James Hetfield, Dave Grohl, Kurt cobain(played mesa boogie), Avril Lavinge, buckethead, bruce springsteen, Carlos santana, Joe trohman, Matt Tuck, patrick stump, and many many more play mesa boogie
lastangelsofrock 2 years ago
Yeah But They Also Play...DUM DUM DUM Marshall, Santana, Mesa IS Way To Modern, And Its Not On His Gear List. Way more people play marshall and fender than mesa i will say that.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett from Metallica ( I know that Kirk has his Signature model but he used a lot of Mesa like the Mark IV and IIC+)
There's also John Petrucci, the guys from Killswitch Engage, Blasko of Ozzy Osbourne, Carlos Santana of course, and to respond you, Jim Root of Slipknot use Mesa, Dave Kushner from Velvet Revolver, Shaun Morgan from Seether and much more... and Petrucci don't play with Marshall WTF...
I'm going to make another comment because it's too long!
kevenharbour 2 years ago
david gilmour? (plays hiwatt amps and fender twins almost his entire career he even has a sig hiwatt amp), JOHN PETRUCCI?????????????? dude comeon its very common knowledge petrucci plays mesa he has since his first studio album in 92' ... jim root plays orange...mick thompson plays rivera (he also has a sig amp by rivera) dude how bout you get your facts straight before just bashing something it just makes you look stupid but w/e its youtube u wouldnt be the first one
Dreamscapevirus 2 years ago
yes the jvm has way more unusable gain, and a very unnatural compressed voicing when cranked the only usable tones i had with mine (had it for 4 months) was gain at around 11' oclcok when the master was pushed ... so yeah it has a ton of "gain" that makes it sounds like a thin transistor amp when pushed past 3' oclock good job marshall ! an overpriced 4 channel version of the jcm2000 !
Dreamscapevirus 2 years ago
its a matter of opinion, my marshall has had none of the stuff you just mentioned, i personally do not like mesa, too modern, i like the old british sound and the nice fender cleans. enjoy your mes though bud :)
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
same to you man hope you have better luck with the jvm than i did greetings from New York!
Dreamscapevirus 2 years ago
cheers bud, greetings from swindon, Uk
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
Mesa are too modern???? Boogies are famous for a Fender clean but with more balls, 1970's isn't modern.
StefanPriceUK 2 years ago
so now mesa steals tones, lol yeh mesa are unique xD
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
yeah because "slayer isnt metal" (sarcasm)
warmachine762 2 years ago
yeah children of bodom isnt either (more sarcasm)
jakeGE 2 years ago
niether is metallica (not sarcastic.....)
ctjoao 2 years ago
uhh yeah they are
jakeGE 2 years ago
Marshalls are amps, doesnt matter what they are for, Even Zakk Wylde himself said and i quote 'Metal, Blues, Rock Or Indie, Marshall does it all' Or maybe you wanna hear what Slash has to say? 'Marshall is fantastic for everything, wether it be rock, metal or for gettin pure tone, Nothing beats a Marshall'. Plus Kerry King Has A Signature Marshall Amp and he plays Metal, So think about what you say you unintelligant Cunt.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
so now I have to buy marshall amps, because zakk wylde and slash say, that they like marshall?
great argument...
i don't like marshall amps, that's my opinion. no matte what slash or zakk wylde or any other guitarist tells me.
mrgibson 2 years ago
i didnt say that. i was arguin over the fact that someone on this video said marshalls arent for metal, and i was merely pointing out they are made for anything so i used two metal guitar players and a classic rock player who uses marshalls as an example, so actually know what im replaying about before flaming it cus what you sed was utter stupid, though i agree you dont have to buy marshall but you sayin a childish comment, 'oh i have to buy marshal cus he says so' wah wah. lol think about it
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
but that's what it sounded like to me. so stop crying. and still not everyone loves or likes marshall. I never said marshall sounds like shit. I only said that in MY opinion there are better amps and it's all a matter of personal taste.
so cope with it or lock yourself in a room with your marshall amp
mrgibson 2 years ago
and if you dont like marshall amps, something must be wrong with you they have the best sound, easily the best sound, your not a true guitar player and many people would agree marshalls are the best all round amps, they sound better than mesa and orange etc, fenders are good but made more for classic rock, your argument is shite my friend, i will say no more so dont bother replyin as i cant be arsed to debate over youtube, now if you all excuse im, gunna go play with my sexy marshall :P
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
marshall is shit compared to mesa
kisscorona 2 years ago
marshall are a lot better than mesa IMO, and to my ears marshall has more pure tone, mesas good for more metal stuff.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
as an owner of a mesa mark IV , dual rectifier and a marshall jcm 800 versatility goes hands down to mesa its not even a contest...the only advantage my marshall has over my mesas (this is the only reason i havnt sold it) is for that middy british rock flavor i get from it that i cant get from my mesa...and the marshall cleans ??? (atleast on the jcm800) are a joke sorry
Dreamscapevirus 2 years ago
dude xd the first marshall is made out of a fender bassman and there are fender amps who have a great highgain sound
lastangelsofrock 2 years ago
the first marshall amp was made before the bassman came out, marshall just didnt releases there amps until after fender but marshall are now the biggest amp company in the world, i sell amplifiers and marshall, vox and orange are the biggest sellers, i reccomend the mesa for metal but not many people buy it surprisingly cus they say its only good for one thing.
XGODFATHAX 2 years ago
I think the line 6 sounds a bit more transparent. You hear more of the strings through it and its also a bit tighter IMO.
The Boogie sounds huge, but it is a 4x12 and the camera man is standing right in front of it. Definitely a bit looser than the line 6.
Honestly, I'm very surprised at how close they are, and even moreso by how good the Flextone sounds.
jm71681 2 years ago
great tone for both but i got to say line6 wins this battle
pdpbydw 2 years ago
newbie....
the mesa has tubes and therefore must be ran louder to acheive decent to great tone. and because of the way it is mic'd/ the kind of mic used, it gives it a REALLY overly distorted sound which makes it sounds kind of bad. but the line6 lacks, punch, resonance, and presence and the overall "alive" feel of the mesa roadking IRL.
hearshotkid91 2 years ago
the mesa sounds much !! better the flextone has no balls
christopherzberlin 2 years ago
the mesa is more clearly.. thats what im think about
domolto 2 years ago
Mesa is definitely better
nrodri10 2 years ago
how to get that tone man,i really need the same one,if you dont have a problem,thanks great work,greatings from corfu greece
molingastudio 2 years ago
mesa just more trebly but fer the price of the each 2 fuck it
FingerLickinGravy67 2 years ago
Flextone wins for me.
Diisafatslag 2 years ago 2
Mesa! Mesa...mesa que mas aplauda le mando le mando le mando la niña! za za za!!!!
GreatApocalipse 2 years ago
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malmsteen1984 2 years ago
sounds like so much in flames..good tone..
baranismen 2 years ago
mesa's got more crunch and btw that's a video, so you wouldn't hear that amount of differences in the sound which you would heard if you listened to both amps in real life. and also the flextone sound very mild, when mesa's got a cutting tone. of course tubes are better that processors))
GregoryDolgov 2 years ago
Of course mesa sounds better...
laitela01 2 years ago
mesa...
evhfan1994 2 years ago
Mesa sounds better
pimpsam9 2 years ago
i think the mesa sounds like a fart. they are both great amps, but i think that i would have to go with the flextone. for one, you can buy 6 flextones or one mesa. but thats just based on price. i use an hd 147 head and i can pretty much squeeze any tone out of that and my ibanez guitars.
spidanez 2 years ago
In my opinion I think the mesa is better. It just sounds cleaner. I dont know if it's the placement of the camera or something else but in this vid the mesa winz.
learner10 2 years ago
The mesa has that nice crunch ive been looking for. I just wish i had $1800
coolman4393 2 years ago
Ok...i can make this riff sound similar even with a 100$ amp if the mesa volume is under 1 or 2....put it over 4 and you will listen the power..monsters like this are not made for home...the flextone is a pretty good amp for homeuse..but its digital...it lacks dynamics,power,and many thing that the mesa gives you...
gu1tarN0oB 2 years ago 5
Precisely
psychostew911 2 years ago
how setup flextone like this sound?
Hawok86 2 years ago
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How Would You Connect The Flextone to a 4x12 cab ??
Hydroclear 2 years ago
wow, the difference in sound isn't so big as the difference in price, nice comparison.
Gerg22 2 years ago 2
very similar, but in the end, I prefer a Mesa. The build quality is great and the tone is amazing. The Line 6 is also, but Line 6 is too digital based for me. It depends on amp modeling rather than holding it's own unique tone. Boh are great amps though.
DrummerDude2134 2 years ago
what pedalboard are you using?
chumps613 2 years ago
Errmm, in this video?
There is the King Controller for the Mesa Boogie Roadking, and the shortboard controller for the Line 6 Flextone III
craigmcarthur1 2 years ago
ahah that is why that Mesa Boogie is awesome for gigs
sounds sexy :]
the Flextone matches up though
chumps613 2 years ago
given the price difference, the line 6 definitely performed well even for being a fraction of the cost. im sure that the build quality of the mesa is more reliable but for sound they are both great.
SexualThunder5150 2 years ago
I prefer Marshalls
Nice vid!
OZZYTS808 2 years ago
lol cool vs. i like how the flextone can mimic the tone of popular "super" amps like MESA BOOGIE or MARSHALL amps
garofalo92 2 years ago
wathn a fxx do you have 2 road kings?
i wish i had one XD good playing
rockmetalmachine 2 years ago
One is a Roadking one is a Tremoverb
meemawuk 2 years ago
You get what you pay for when it comes to guitar equipment.
guitaristguy20 2 years ago
I dont think people are putting to mind THE PRICES. Mesa is obviously going to win this, But for the money I would go for flextone. and especially the flextone if your only looking for a practice amp or small gigging amp. I mean, Like krankank put "Lol, a 350 doller amp vs a 3500 doller amp."
BlackPheonix81 2 years ago
Roadking easy.. Line 6 sounds to compressed. Besides your playing the mesa dry, add some reverb or delay and will sound more lush
Gyro911 2 years ago
Both were dry to make the video as comparable as possible. But its not the best comparison in the world, it was just a quick video as we happened to have the two amps sitting side by side.
craigmcarthur1 2 years ago
Definitely. You've also got to keep in mind that the mesa was pointed at the camera, and the flextone away from the camera, since the camera mic is what we're hearing.
I'd say they're pretty similar.
byrnnryb 2 years ago
mesa ftw
fht987 2 years ago
maybe im fucking crazy but the flextone sounds tits! its deeper than the mesa but then again it could be the settings,but from what i can tell, personally i prefer the line 6. nice upload bro
figgynuton1994 2 years ago
can you send me your patches so I can plug it into line 6 edit
fixxxer602 2 years ago
Lol, a 350 doller amp vs a 3500 doller amp.
krankank 2 years ago 3
That mesa will be amazing at a gig volume
SexualThunder5150 3 years ago 3