jbisti Tim Allen said " Real men don't read manuals" I take advantage of these people's laziness, illiteracy, and A.D.D. all the time, and score great deals on cool stuff like old Silvertone and Airline guitars, oddball off-brand tube amps "obsolete" studio rack gear; and nice old test equipment. I have one of these pedals and it works just fine for Hammond if you use a good tube amp like a Marshall or a Twin.
@jpalberthoward9 Yup, exactly. People often don't take the time to learn about what they want or have, and they let stupid outside factors influence their opinions. I devour manuals, and as a result, really love these Boss pedals with lots of "hidden" features. Too many people expect these high-level tools to work like Playskool toys.
@Bertokia Everyone has to justify whatever it is they wasted their money on. I've been doing a side-by-side comparison for months, on about a dozen Leslie emulators. Haven't purchased any yet. The Neo vent. probably does sound a little better in some ways - but it's also twice the money - and to be honest I think the Boss 's spin-up and braking sounds are the best I've heard. Calling it a "joke" -especially an all-caps JOKE is way out of line - and not true at all.
@moucon I have played guitar & Hammond thru a real Leslie since the early 70's Live & in the Studio, & the Vent is by far the best simulation yet. That is the truth.
Having played through both a real Leslie and one of these, I would call this a godsend and a great value. I think a number of people are trying to justify the money they spent on more expensive, less convenient items. This was a great demo, too.
@WSchaferJR There's definitely a skewed perception of quality when it comes to pedals. I bought this years ago because we were doing a song that needed the effect and was able to get it for pretty cheap because the owner never bothered to read the manual, spent 3 minutes twisting knobs randomly, and assumed it sucked. I still bust it out every once in a while just to give extra legs to a solo, or just to have something to stare at once the beer kicks in.
@Dethbrin Nope, the effect is mostly intensity-based with just a little bit of pitch fluctuation. It won't do flanging. For a really good flexible flanger that'll do the airplane take-off sound, definitely check out the MXR flangers.
Never mind, man. Peolpe got used to having so much information ready easily accessable that they even forget that you're doing them a favour. As to me, I found your video informative and by no means "verbose", your explanations and demo were very precise, really. The best ones I've seen on youtube.
@yearofrolling Yeah yeah, I know... I've worked on skipping right to the playing in my newer videos. Hard to make everybody happy, so I also put a "skip to the playing" button in my old vids.
@jbisti cool. yeah, i was feeling the same way but it really depends on the viewer's mood, time and needs. and obviously you took the most time in creating this video so we yield to your creative uploading style. hehehe. thanks for the effective walk-through of all the key features. things like this really help me! :)
-Troy of Las Vegas!!!!
PS - LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE FEATURED ON MY MUSIC BLOG AS A MUSIC MENTOR! :)
Nice pedal and I like Boss stuff, but for this I prefer my Rotomachine. Doesn't do the separate treble/bass ramp up speed and has other quirks. But I love the cab EQ and it also does a killer vibratone emulation if you route the audio correctly. Still, the RT-20 is a nice unit and I may take another look at it. Great demo, and thanks for recording it in stereo!
@fivetrax No troubles, I tend to get verbose, so I'm trying to skip right to the playing, and either do a non-playing walkthrough in a separate video or at the end. I do, however, believe that a lot of people buy these twin pedals not knowing what all of the controls do, and write them off as inferior without understanding how to get the sounds they want. I'm working to strike a happy balance.
exactly what i've been looking for. was gonna settle on a roger mayer voodoo vibe til i stumbled on this vid. thanks for putting this up, been really useful to people like me who've just been starting to get into leslie/rotary type effects. forget about people who complain about talking - if they don't wanna listen to the explanations, then skip those parts, no need to get all pantsy about it.
that said, don't stop uploading vids like these with less-than-straightforward effects pedals.
Some people would rather watch a youtube video showing some of the nicer features than read through the manual for a pedal that they're not sure they want to buy.
I'm so sorry for forcing you watch all 8 minutes. Oh wait... I didn't.
@jbisti Dude, your approach is perfect for the thinking player - don't change because of some H8R. I want the whole frontal lobe cerebral explanation thing. - and the sound.
dude, i thought your video was pretty good. but i do have a question......how do you feel this pedal sounds for mono applications with a guitar and amp?
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Less talking, more playing. That is the golden rule for gear demos. You don't need to tell us when you turn a knob. We can see you turn it. You also don't need to spend more than two seconds on the unaffected tone. We know what a guitar sounds like. I watched this vid but still don't have a good sense of this box can do. More knob twiddling and less talking would've helped flesh it out for us. That said, you did a better job than a lot of the gear reviewers.
@1Doz bullcrap -that's ONE opinion, yours. There is no "Golden Rule" dude except "treat others as you would like to be treated". So lose the "i'm the shit' attitude - this demo is exactly what I wanted to get out of this pedal.
I think you're a little too sensitive for YouTube. I gave my opinion. He's free to discard it if he chooses, and so are you. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
Or, go ahead and get them in a bunch. Who the hell cares.
But I stand by my opinion that less talking and more playing & knob twiddling gets more information across quicker. Most of us don't need the play by play.
In a room, yes. On tape? Maybe. A pedal like this will never pose a threat to a real Leslie, but it's a god send for guitarists and organists on the go. Engage the actual effect, ignore the on-board distortion, run it into a slightly overdriven tube amp and I'm sure it'd be hard to tell the difference..on tape. :)
I have the RT-20, and the Hughes and Kentner Rotoshpere... compared to the real thing, there is no substitute because with any pedal when you are listening to somthing that is a flat 2D imatation of somthing that is originaly 3 dimensional.
no matter how convincing the "stereo simulation" may be, it will never thow sound around the room in all directions, (as well as inside the cabinet itself!) like an actual Leslie does. people dont understand. thats why eveyone should experience a real Leslie
True, but when you record a Leslie it basically loses its 3D-ness. I'll bet you couldn't hear the difference on tape. In fact there's a Youtube vid where the guy A/B's a Leslie versus a Tokai leslie simulator, and they're really close. Granted if you were standing there you'd hear the difference, but in the 2D world of recorded music, the difference is much more subtle.
do you feel the RT-20 holds up pretty well to the H & K Rotoshpere? I'm hoping so with nearly $400 difference it would be pretty cool to be hapy with the Boss!!
@angie4josh True. There's a big difference between a point source like a real leslie cab throwing sound around a room and a pedal going mono or stereo- However... Most people just want to cop leslie sound they hear on recordings. These are stereo and many are mono. You don't get the "3D-ness" on a recording. If you've never heard a real leslie live and up close (I have), you're not missing anything by using an emulator like this to cop the tone of a recording as far as spatiality is concerned.
Still kinda think the dirt sounds like trash, but this is easily the best demo of this thing on the Youtubes, man. Excellent work with it, I've learned some stuff I didn't know before, and I really want one of these even more now.
You know what you should play? ..... Summertime loving, loving in the Summer (time)!
UpcomingJedi 3 weeks ago
Very good demo, thanks for sharing!
RamonZarete 1 month ago
jbisti Tim Allen said " Real men don't read manuals" I take advantage of these people's laziness, illiteracy, and A.D.D. all the time, and score great deals on cool stuff like old Silvertone and Airline guitars, oddball off-brand tube amps "obsolete" studio rack gear; and nice old test equipment. I have one of these pedals and it works just fine for Hammond if you use a good tube amp like a Marshall or a Twin.
jpalberthoward9 2 months ago
@jpalberthoward9 Yup, exactly. People often don't take the time to learn about what they want or have, and they let stupid outside factors influence their opinions. I devour manuals, and as a result, really love these Boss pedals with lots of "hidden" features. Too many people expect these high-level tools to work like Playskool toys.
jbisti 1 month ago
@jbisti If they did what you do then there would be many more satisfied players that would keep their thing rather than put it up on ebay for cheap.
UpcomingJedi 3 weeks ago
Joey Defransesco [Hammond organ master] used a Ventilator to replace his 122 Leslie while touring with David Sanborn recently....
Bertokia 4 months ago
Nice Playing,do you do porn music professionally or as a hobby?
JJF10101957 6 months ago 10
@JJF10101957 Hahahahahaha... why can't it be both?
jbisti 6 months ago 6
I own a Neo Ventilator, & the RT20 is a JOKE in comparison...
Bertokia 7 months ago
@Bertokia Everyone has to justify whatever it is they wasted their money on. I've been doing a side-by-side comparison for months, on about a dozen Leslie emulators. Haven't purchased any yet. The Neo vent. probably does sound a little better in some ways - but it's also twice the money - and to be honest I think the Boss 's spin-up and braking sounds are the best I've heard. Calling it a "joke" -especially an all-caps JOKE is way out of line - and not true at all.
moucon 4 months ago
@moucon I have played guitar & Hammond thru a real Leslie since the early 70's Live & in the Studio, & the Vent is by far the best simulation yet. That is the truth.
Bertokia 4 months ago
This just made me want to go play it at guitar center. Much better then Boss' demo, they didn't even demo the univibe efect
joewalshman96 8 months ago
@joewalshman96 It's definitely a great pedal to space out with, especially if you can do a stereo setup. I'm always finding reasons to use it.
jbisti 8 months ago
Far better than the demo from Boss. Thanks for explaining everything, I found it concise and informative. I gotta have one...
kbstudedriver680 8 months ago
Having played through both a real Leslie and one of these, I would call this a godsend and a great value. I think a number of people are trying to justify the money they spent on more expensive, less convenient items. This was a great demo, too.
WSchaferJR 9 months ago
@WSchaferJR There's definitely a skewed perception of quality when it comes to pedals. I bought this years ago because we were doing a song that needed the effect and was able to get it for pretty cheap because the owner never bothered to read the manual, spent 3 minutes twisting knobs randomly, and assumed it sucked. I still bust it out every once in a while just to give extra legs to a solo, or just to have something to stare at once the beer kicks in.
jbisti 9 months ago 5
i really wanna like this pedal...
slamdunktyping 9 months ago
Borring waffle
mewsic156 11 months ago
dont be turned off from this pedal for guitar.it sounds much better when notes are picked from a chord structure and not strummed in a fast fashion
bobby6631 11 months ago
can you get a flange or "airplane" effect from this?
Dethbrin 1 year ago
@Dethbrin Nope, the effect is mostly intensity-based with just a little bit of pitch fluctuation. It won't do flanging. For a really good flexible flanger that'll do the airplane take-off sound, definitely check out the MXR flangers.
jbisti 1 year ago
Never mind, man. Peolpe got used to having so much information ready easily accessable that they even forget that you're doing them a favour. As to me, I found your video informative and by no means "verbose", your explanations and demo were very precise, really. The best ones I've seen on youtube.
Cheers from Brazil!
brunoliamat 1 year ago
First: Rockin'
Then talkin'
yearofrolling 1 year ago 3
@yearofrolling Yeah yeah, I know... I've worked on skipping right to the playing in my newer videos. Hard to make everybody happy, so I also put a "skip to the playing" button in my old vids.
jbisti 1 year ago
@jbisti cool. yeah, i was feeling the same way but it really depends on the viewer's mood, time and needs. and obviously you took the most time in creating this video so we yield to your creative uploading style. hehehe. thanks for the effective walk-through of all the key features. things like this really help me! :)
-Troy of Las Vegas!!!!
PS - LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE FEATURED ON MY MUSIC BLOG AS A MUSIC MENTOR! :)
ITS COMMITTED MUSIC AT BLOGSPOT COM
CommittedMusic 1 year ago
Nice pedal and I like Boss stuff, but for this I prefer my Rotomachine. Doesn't do the separate treble/bass ramp up speed and has other quirks. But I love the cab EQ and it also does a killer vibratone emulation if you route the audio correctly. Still, the RT-20 is a nice unit and I may take another look at it. Great demo, and thanks for recording it in stereo!
dbhammond 1 year ago
awesome review. I'm thinking about getting one.
psychocreep73 1 year ago
great review!
weenerdoggs 1 year ago
I thought it was a very very good walk-through.
Yes, there are manuals (not that Boss/Roland writes stellar ones), but the video shows the functions IN CONTEXT.
Observations like where the overdrive works best and demonstrations of that really add value to the demo
(FWIW - On the heavier overdrive settings, I did go..."eww" - then you addressed that impression)
love or hate for the pedal notwithstanding, the quality of the vid and the narration was excellent
wombatbowling 1 year ago
I thought it was a very very good walk-through.
Yes, there are manuals (not that Boss/Roland writes stellar ones), but the video shows the functions IN CONTEXT.
Observations like where the overdrive works best and demonstrations of that really add value to the demo
(FWIW - On the heavier overdrive settings, I did go..."eww" - then you addressed that impression)
love or hate for the pedal ntwithstanding, the quality of the vid and the narration was excellent
wombatbowling 1 year ago
Nice review. Thanks.
Keepsu 1 year ago
mode 4... wait a second they made a fake rotary to emulate a fake rotary hm... interesting
TheSkyLineBand1 1 year ago
Thanks for the demo!! It's probably the best one of the Rt-20 on all of Youtube, including the one posted by Roland.
zuider77 1 year ago
Great demo!!! I want this pedal now...
csharp57 1 year ago
Very good demo and explaination. Little too much for some of the children with ADD I guess. :)
tommc49 1 year ago
Great video and awesome explanation! Thanks for taking the time to dive into this pedal.
ed4564 1 year ago
They should have put the Model 16 on it too,which is used in Cream - Badge & Jimi Hendrix - Little WIng
ureadmymind 1 year ago
Just demo the damn pedal please man, instead of all the waffle! This would put me off buying rather than rushing out to the music store - sorry!
fivetrax 1 year ago
@fivetrax & these cheezy stevie ray vaughn riffs,almost every reviewer plays them.
ureadmymind 1 year ago
@fivetrax No troubles, I tend to get verbose, so I'm trying to skip right to the playing, and either do a non-playing walkthrough in a separate video or at the end. I do, however, believe that a lot of people buy these twin pedals not knowing what all of the controls do, and write them off as inferior without understanding how to get the sounds they want. I'm working to strike a happy balance.
jbisti 1 year ago
@jbisti I appreciate all the explanation:)
HappyOrangeTheBand 1 year ago 2
@fivetrax I think he did just that. I found the video as a whole to be a better demo than I would typically get at a brick and mortar music store.
Mick175d 1 year ago
exactly what i've been looking for. was gonna settle on a roger mayer voodoo vibe til i stumbled on this vid. thanks for putting this up, been really useful to people like me who've just been starting to get into leslie/rotary type effects. forget about people who complain about talking - if they don't wanna listen to the explanations, then skip those parts, no need to get all pantsy about it.
that said, don't stop uploading vids like these with less-than-straightforward effects pedals.
sususegar 1 year ago
i didn't watch it all, i skipped through it.... did you forget we can do that? it's still annoying though.
truffleshuffle777 1 year ago
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i love it when people explain all the features of these pedals, these companies never write any manuals for us.... oh wait.... they do
truffleshuffle777 1 year ago
Some people would rather watch a youtube video showing some of the nicer features than read through the manual for a pedal that they're not sure they want to buy.
I'm so sorry for forcing you watch all 8 minutes. Oh wait... I didn't.
jbisti 1 year ago 56
@jbisti Dude, your approach is perfect for the thinking player - don't change because of some H8R. I want the whole frontal lobe cerebral explanation thing. - and the sound.
moucon 1 year ago
@jbisti word up!
mercy91 1 year ago
@jbisti dude that was funny nice comeback love the video
posiedonpowertrio 1 year ago
@jbisti ignore that fool, its a great video you have posted mate, informative and useful :)
unriselyrical 1 year ago
great demo!! loved it, i really want one of these
Euphoriaman 1 year ago
Good vibe man, will buy one of these. Thanks for your vid.
Medic397 1 year ago 3
You're gonna dig it. The whole dual-rotor and dual-speed acceleration/deceleration thing makes it very hypnotic.
Even moreso if you run it in stereo and throw some other sort of effect on one side but not the other.
jbisti 1 year ago
awesome vid i like your explaining better than people who just play! very psychedelic
TheSweeterKill 2 years ago
dude, i thought your video was pretty good. but i do have a question......how do you feel this pedal sounds for mono applications with a guitar and amp?
masque1313 2 years ago
man, shut up and play! please )))
smerch83 2 years ago
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smerch83 2 years ago
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Less talking, more playing. That is the golden rule for gear demos. You don't need to tell us when you turn a knob. We can see you turn it. You also don't need to spend more than two seconds on the unaffected tone. We know what a guitar sounds like. I watched this vid but still don't have a good sense of this box can do. More knob twiddling and less talking would've helped flesh it out for us. That said, you did a better job than a lot of the gear reviewers.
1Doz 2 years ago
Umm... thanks?
jbisti 2 years ago 5
@1Doz bullcrap -that's ONE opinion, yours. There is no "Golden Rule" dude except "treat others as you would like to be treated". So lose the "i'm the shit' attitude - this demo is exactly what I wanted to get out of this pedal.
moucon 1 year ago
@moucon
I think you're a little too sensitive for YouTube. I gave my opinion. He's free to discard it if he chooses, and so are you. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
Or, go ahead and get them in a bunch. Who the hell cares.
But I stand by my opinion that less talking and more playing & knob twiddling gets more information across quicker. Most of us don't need the play by play.
1Doz 1 year ago
I would challenge anyone who is going to buy this pedal to go and listen to a REAL
Leslie and compare it to this.
you will find there is no comparison.
angie4josh 2 years ago
In a room, yes. On tape? Maybe. A pedal like this will never pose a threat to a real Leslie, but it's a god send for guitarists and organists on the go. Engage the actual effect, ignore the on-board distortion, run it into a slightly overdriven tube amp and I'm sure it'd be hard to tell the difference..on tape. :)
Baijidoom 2 years ago
From just listening to this demo I can tell the difference blindfolded.
angie4josh 2 years ago
do you have the RT-20?
chrismarshall1950 2 years ago
I have the RT-20, and the Hughes and Kentner Rotoshpere... compared to the real thing, there is no substitute because with any pedal when you are listening to somthing that is a flat 2D imatation of somthing that is originaly 3 dimensional.
no matter how convincing the "stereo simulation" may be, it will never thow sound around the room in all directions, (as well as inside the cabinet itself!) like an actual Leslie does. people dont understand. thats why eveyone should experience a real Leslie
angie4josh 2 years ago
True, but when you record a Leslie it basically loses its 3D-ness. I'll bet you couldn't hear the difference on tape. In fact there's a Youtube vid where the guy A/B's a Leslie versus a Tokai leslie simulator, and they're really close. Granted if you were standing there you'd hear the difference, but in the 2D world of recorded music, the difference is much more subtle.
1Doz 2 years ago
do you feel the RT-20 holds up pretty well to the H & K Rotoshpere? I'm hoping so with nearly $400 difference it would be pretty cool to be hapy with the Boss!!
masque1313 2 years ago
@masque1313 you will be much happier with the Rotosphere man, for what you pay for the RT-20 it is a waste of money.
angie4josh 2 years ago
@angie4josh True. There's a big difference between a point source like a real leslie cab throwing sound around a room and a pedal going mono or stereo- However... Most people just want to cop leslie sound they hear on recordings. These are stereo and many are mono. You don't get the "3D-ness" on a recording. If you've never heard a real leslie live and up close (I have), you're not missing anything by using an emulator like this to cop the tone of a recording as far as spatiality is concerned.
dbhammond 1 year ago
The problem with a leslie is they cost like TWO GRAND! This costs 200 dollars!
ibanezman007 2 years ago 2
Still kinda think the dirt sounds like trash, but this is easily the best demo of this thing on the Youtubes, man. Excellent work with it, I've learned some stuff I didn't know before, and I really want one of these even more now.
notaphaser 2 years ago
great review ,thanks for posting it
stymye 2 years ago 2
Ive watched several demos of this pedal and you are the first to even mention the ability to control rise time. Nice demo.
FloydsterUtube 2 years ago
Thanks for a great review. I looking into these kinds of pedals a the moment. Have yet to make my mind up, but this seems to do alot for the money.
Cheers
Pete
peterg8681 2 years ago