What would you say to a couple who feel differently?

[twobmad]

He got God given wisdom. Thank you so much for the counsel Dr. John. 

[anthonythirteen]

The assumption is that the one 'on fire' is genuinely so - this is why it is important to pray about it & also wait for the less commited party.

[sirmoosa]

Wow! What an amazing response! God is awesome! Good stuff

[lucasdasilvamaria]

"He wont drag us to heaven if we dont want it. If we want out, we get out."

That twisted my mind a little bit. You have always said He's sovereign in saving us, and that we cannot escape from his hand and..... argh, i got lost in this one.

ANd i can see in your face [when you said that] that someone would think thats contradictory.

[HisFatherlyHand]

Yeah. God is sovereign in such a way that, when he keeps you, he keeps you in such a way that you don't want out. No one goes to heaven against his will. Take note of Piper's side comment "and then prove that we were never in."

[theearstohear]

@lucasdasilvamaria - Good catch. That was a little bit of Lordship Salvation double-speak coming out there. In their theology you cannot lose your salvation, but you can find out that you were a false believer, which proves that you were never saved to begin with. This is sort of the Calminian take on falling from grace; it's falling from your delusion of grace. I think we'll be astonished in glory at the number that had faith, though they didn't much look like it here.