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  • Islam is the perfect and wonderfull religion

  • Allah is not just in ka'bah

  • true God is everywhere not in ka'bah

  • @ignatei. Jerusalem is a holy city to Muslims also but the stupid Jews took over now we can't see one of the famous mosques. :(

  • yeah... yeah... my neighbor (islam) tell me about inside of kaabah.. and on the celling, a cross stick with celling... anyone who went to arab and visit the kaabah, you should not look up, because in the kaabah precisely in the celling, there is a large cross hanging... :D

  • @TheAdythm ur such an idiot haha....i pray that u find the truth one day =)

  • Allahu Akbar!!!

  • I think the Kaaba is the black box of the plane of Allah or a Borg Cube that fell from space a few centuries ago......

  • @LordElfarium it was made by abraham and his sons :) i wonder what other @#%@ ur brain is filled with lol

  • praying to shivlinga ..... !

    blasphemous muslims ....... bootparast :P

  • you walk in to any church and you ll see statues of saints everywhere.. u ll even see naked statues..... Christians are arrogant to the fact, they like to criticize other faith but they don't realize idiolisim is embedded in their faith ie. cross, saints, saints and the list goes on and on.

  • @ibph2000 you're attacking the perversion, not the real deal. from you're perspective has islam been perverted? or is it true to it's original form? thanks.

  • Ah the lemming building exposed! Go lemmings GO!

  • allah vur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Terrorists training indoctrination centre - i.e. Ka'bah!

  • i LOVE ALLAH

    ALLAHU AKBAR!!\

    MASHALLAH

    SUBHANNALAH

    JAZAKALAH

    ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!

    ;) :) :P :D

    MAY ALLAH MAKE US EHLU JANNAH

    ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

    MAY ALLAH GUIDE US THE RIGHT WAY

  • @fallen4rmgrace20

    But you don't love super chunky chocolate ice cream? BLASPHEMER! YOU WILL PAY!

  • Failed propaganda I ve seen the inside of the Kabah, there s a sun symbol on a wall remiscent of the pre islamic sun worship or Mystery Babylon

  • Wow so by reading everyones comments I noticed no one is on the same page about any religion. Makes me wonder even more about religion and how accurate they are and any religious book can be concieved differently depending on who reads it. But I did notice everyoe agrees in some shape or form that religons have been changed alot over time, and by going by what u guys say its because of satan and stuff.

  • @Krinityx So if everyone agrees its satan how can one be mad at the other person for being decieved by "satan" People need to be a peace with each other and stop arguing cuz it doesnt get anyone anywhere. One day everyone will kno the truth when the world ends (as most religions say).

  • @Krinityx Its not killing and beating a child who was maybe raised by the wrong parents or something. We are suppose to be a smart species on this earth yet we act so childish and dumb. Come on peoples just love and use ur brain sometimes.

  • Does anybody get to see a glimpse of the meteorite that's inside nowadays anyway?

  • Hey... take it easy people... this is what we believe as moslem... If you don't believe it then it's up to you. Allah give the freedom for humans to believe what they want to believe. But of course, we have to realize that the one who know everything is Allah, not us. Thanks for the post LaMasjid

  • I have read your Quran. It is a violent and hateful piece of trash book. Muhammed raped children and Allah behaves like Stalin.

  • @Ramshobraja shut da fuk up u prick.

  • @Ramshobraja REPENT! REPENT NOW!

  • Kabah was built by Jewish emigrants, and later it was turned into a pagan temple with 360 idols and they circled around it like Muslims do today. There is no reason to believe Abraham left his family in Mesopotamia and traveled so far to build something in Mecca, a city which didn't exist at that time in 1750 BC.

  • That is a classic !! so tell us .. why they build it !! .... As you know they still excavating below dome of the rock in Palestine searching for their lost temple ... So you might just advise about your finding !! ... LOL what an idiot

  • The region Abraham traveled was the Fertile Crescent; it encompasses modern Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel and the Nile delta. It was the cradle of Western civilization.

    However, there were no civilizations in Arabia at that time. They lived just as the modern Bedouin tribes of Arabia carry on the traditions of nomadic living. They were practicing a mobile way of life set by the cycle of the seasons.

  • Muslims say Mecca and the Kaaba are the centers of worship for the entire world. Christians and Jews know that it is Jerusalem. The City of David is mentioned nearly 50 times in the Bible as the home of God's people whereas Mecca is not mentioned even once. Are you honestly suggesting that these references are corruptions in the texts and that Mecca was the intended city the whole time? lol

  • Kabah was not built by Abraham. He never visited the barren wasteland of the Hijaz or any other place in the Arabian Peninsula. From Babylon, trusted Judaeans were settled in a string of captured Arabian oases, where 1000 years later the faith of their descendants profoundly influenced the founder prophet of Islam, the trader Mohammed.

  • Capture from brutal Arabs? They did not need to capture anything because we are talking about the uninhabited region of Arabia.

    Evidence suggests the Jews built it as their house of worship. It was meant to be like the temple of Solomon, which most likely was a box with a ground plan of 120 by 40ft. It's funny that Muslims sometimes claim Kaaba was first built by Adam! Implying that Eden was in Arabia! Eden was eastward, the Bible says, at the source of great rivers.

  • It's an idol that Muslims worship

  • Apparently. Jesus was a man of War and prone to condone killing too. Ecclesiaste :3 verses 3 and 8. 3:a time to kill and a time to heal,

    8:a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.

    I said it before I will say it again. the same God that sent the Quran is the Same God that sent Jesus with the Gospel. Do the Scriptures. The connection doesnt lie.

  • allah is great!!!!!!!!! i love allah soooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • zit? if u luv so much..keep it in ur heart....no need to burst it out....so lame...

  • its a meteorite, and the Saudi pagans worshipped the moon god there and walked round it 7 times and the muslims are still moon God worshipers today, its on top of their mosques.

  • first of all you don't know how the inside of the ka'bah looks like!!! you will be the last one on earth to know how it would look like if they opened the inside which no one would ever do. And to all the confused retards out their who posted comments about this video, muslim is a religion of peace so get it straight and prophet mohammed never teaches to kill he mainly teaches respect wat most of ya don't have, HaTEr!!

  • very interesting, shame about all the religious nut cases leaving insane comments......

  • Thank you for providing evidence that the Kabah is as empty as Jizzlam.

  • Yeshua of Nazareth is Lord!

  • PATHETItC!

  • KING OF KINGS!!! PRINCE OF PEACE!!!

  • oo ok maybe i got that wrong maybe ur not a kid. did yeshua claim to be a king?

  • Revelation 19:16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

    Revelation 17:14 "These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful."

  • Luke 19:38 shouting: "BLESSED IS THE KING WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD; Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!"

  • Matthew 25:34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

  • then the king will say? confusing i will stick with islam for now i belive monthesim is better then worshiping 3 gods.

  • the king referring to Jesus.....

    it's one God you must learn to understand the trinity GOD the Father God the SON GOD the HOLY SPIRIT youre three dimensional human its hard to understand a God as three but if you were before him in spirit in the dimension he exist you would understand also you are three in soul, body, spirit, similar to God

    water liquid,water ice solid, and water vapor....

  • boring all the monthesitic faiths belive christianry is a idol service jews muslims and bahoa faith. brother u cant even find the word trintiy in the bible your just not sure who the bible was authored from hmmm let me guess PAUL!

  • the word bible isnt in the bible...the author is the Holy Spirit which inspired the writers also there were originally over 600 books in the bible but ofcourse satan had to cut that number down and change or alter many of the scripture which we have available to us when he infiltrated the church (roman Catholicism)  and Many forms of christianity like roman catholocism or mormonism jehovas witnesses are antichrist but the true Christians see the pagan idolatry in those religions ...

  • there are many false christs and new gospel and different christs but you cant let that discredit the real Christ thats satans goal to discredit the power of knowing the true messiah and knowing the true gospel...

  • i think you should respect the islamic reliogn because they love jesus and they belive he is the messiah

  • why should i respect some superstitious religion which was created by Satan you are very wrong they don't believe he was a messiah or even the son of God they only believe he was a prophet sorry but you have much to learn about both Islam and Jesus i am against all forms of Religion i rely on the Holy Spirit to lead me and counsel me and not to be mean or disrespectful to you but do some research any Muslim could see by your comments you lack basic knowledge of Islamic beliefs

  • hmmm it seems like your retarded no offensive. 171. O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allâh aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allâh and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam......

  • Jesus said if you love me you'll keep my commandments Muslims don't keep Christ commandments they follow Muhammad the pedophiles commandments who was possessed by the devil

  • devil is against god and satan tells prophet muhammed to obey god and and love him? no sense failure! damn lol the jews have more morals and better attitudes and heart then most of you foul christians i mean like at least most of them dont go protesting like a bunch of stupid idiots and then have no progress like the jummah on captiol hill chrisitians were tight as red hell lol i was there i was laughing to death because they failed most of them ignored and the christians went to jail.

  • surely God is with the muslims because they chrsitians come and protest a heavenly religon and God punsihed them to let the cops take them to jail and it was a miracle becaause if the cops didnt take them to jail the idiotic chrisians woulve went to go hit muslims while there praying peacefully. you chrisitians will never win and besides we muslims are seeing a rapid growth of islam in america.

  • what gain is it for a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul... it was finished at the cross we are victorious in Christ Jesus more than conquerors and nothing can seperate us from the Love of God through his Son Jesus Christ

  • love of God which is in christ Jesus our Lord*

  • muslims know your reliogn is false so they dont come out and get crazy and preach their religons like a couple of dumbasses lol cause muslims know there right. muslims have a education higher then the american averge i mean Allah has never let me down he saved me from a terrible life i had. i thought islam was false and i was about to be a christian or an athesist until i kept saying no islam is going to be my religon and i found out i was tesred by God and i passed the test of faith.

  • well life is meaningless without Love it doesnt matter how much education and knowledge you possess its all meaningless without Love and Jesus showed God the fathers Love for Us by willingly laying down his life for us and Christians dont follow Christ for miracles but we follow because we Love him and we deny ourselves and the pleasure we may want to do his will even if that brings persecution and death we bless those that curse us we pray for our enemies

  • now i have a peaceful brotherhood life with muslims and myself. the more i belive in God and follow islam the more miracles happen.

  • we don't cut their heads off like the Muslims Muhammad teaches you to kill the infidels Islam is not a religion of peace it is a death cult plain and simple

  • MUSLIMJOURNEYTOHOPE . COM

    there are many testimonies of Muslims who came to Christ on this site watch number 47 testimony to start...

  • i just checked out the site and it is nice but islam is the fastest growing religon it keeps tripling. i am not sad when muslims become chrisitian because i see more christiians coming to islam. dude i dont need chrisitian hope i already have my life and i love it God guided me to islam. even if anything happens to me thats bad i know God is testing my faith.

  • Sorry brother i mistakly click negative mark u r correct islam is great

  • wow its ok brother

  • TO BE CONTINUED FROM SURA 4:171.......(Mary) and a spirit (Rûh) created by Him; so believe in Allâh and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allâh is (the only) One Ilâh (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allâh is All­Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs

  • Allahu ekber

  • I feel sorry for you asifmasih1 but people like you shouldnt be on computer at all writing something like this and I wish you died in one of those buildings that Osama destroyed so you can go to hell.Allahu ekber

  • asifmasih1

    one word 4 u:

    IGNORANT!

  • does ur mommy know ur playing on the computer

  • Fuuuuuck you man...You don't now nothing about islam

  • ***** BOOM SHANTI *****

  • It's Dr Who's tardis!

  • we dont worship the black stone....masjid ul haram was the first masjid and face towards that way to pray.....we dont prostate to the stone we only prostate to allah....may allah guide you

  • @TShaikh05 YOU ARE FACING THE BLACK BOX AND THE STONE SO THEREFORE YOU ARE BOWING AND PRAYING TO IT....BY THE WAY THE WAY YOU CIRCLE THE BOX IS DIZZYING....IS THAT LIKE PRAYING TO IT/

  • Dude we dont worship the black stone.. its just a beacon we are all directed to pray.. All muslims pray in that Direction cus its a beacon and it shows universal brotherhood aswell.. we dont kiss the black stone.. people who do, do so for respect.. others may just do it cus of their fathers.. but Learned Muslims know that There is One God.. Who's description is in Surah Ikhlas.. we do tawaf to depict the angels who do tawaf around the arsh.. There are various kinds of tawaf aswell.. look em up..

  • Peace drerror,

    I have been to 'Umra' myself when I was ignorant. I touched and kissed the black stone idol thinking my sins would be wiped out. I have since asked God to forgive me for my transgressions and have undertaken this struggle against the idolatory that is rampant in Islam. The word 'qibla' in the context of the Quran means focus/direction. As in direction towards the Truth. Please look up the word 'solaa' in the Quran's context. May God guide us all.

    God Bless!!!

  • So what do you say?.. Stop prostrating "towards" the Ka'bah?

  • Kirat people in Nepal connection with Mongolia and Japan.

    check the video "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship"

    The relevant video of stone worshiping in Mongolia, existence of Sivaism in China and as far as Japan and comparing with that of stone worshiping by Kiratas in Nepal shows that the worshiping of stone originated from Mongol people and not Vedic Aryan.

  • salaam , it would be good of us all to get qur facts straight we dont worship the stone we worship Allah, we face towards the kahbah as a sighn of uniteyas all the muslims face the same way, and the black stone is not worshiped we kiss it as a mark of respect as it is a gift from Allah, i hope this is suficent enogh for you to get your facts straight.

  • Peace Zaheer,

    Since you seem to like to talk about facts: Let us look in the Quran and see what we find about prostrating in front of a black stone idol in Mecca. Absolutely nothing! The fact of the matter is that the words: sajdah(submit), rukoo(humble) and salaah(commit) have been perverted by your Imams to mean mechanical actions done to appease Allah. Here is a question: If prostrating in front of an idol brings unity then why do the Sunnis and Shiites kill each other? Hope you reflect

  • @Kitabmubeen Islam is one! and your explaining of submission is totally wrong!

    Shiites are not Muslims! They are a group of idiots who are getting paid by the Zionists of Israel to create a crack in Islam's line of oneness and unity!

    Shiites are a big part of there name! and they care about money only!

    all they want is this 1/5 they get paid by their followers!

  • The worship of stone phallus did not originated from Indo-Aryan. This culture was absorbed into the vedic religion(HINDUISM) to bring the indigenous Kiratas(Indo-Mongolod) into vedic society.

    Still today the form of Sivaism in a crude form exist in Mongolia and by Kirat people in Nepal.

    Here's the video:

    "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship"

  • Verily, the first House (of worship) appointed for mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah), full of blessing, and a guidance for Al-'Alamîn (the mankind and jinn).

  • حسدا من عند انفسهم من بعد ما تبين لهم الحق كل الردود تنبئ بحسد اصحابها على هذا الدين مساكين وضالين ومنحرفين

  • الأسلام  السعودي دين مزيف و محرف لتكريس حكم آل سعود وخدمهم الوهابيين حتى يستمروا فى سرقة البدو و تحريم كل شئ حتى التفكير البسيط.... دين بالقوة وبالسيف فى القرن الواحد و العشرين

  • 1mommas....its people like you who give good and God fearing Christians and non muslims a bad name..you can only use cuss words coz u have no other good comment to post..i can perceive from your english that your are illiterate coz your english is mumbled jumbled..fix your spelling..ur just good at hiding behind your computer and posting comments that will just do harm on the general non muslim community..

    i will not use cuss words for you coz i don't want to get down to your meager status....

  • the quran does say the bible the torah are revelations sent by god but does also say it was sent for certain time and people

  • In Hebrew we there is singular personal pronoun I as when God ordered Moses to say to the Hebrew children, My name is I AM. Tell them I AM sent you. The content I AM is cleared in this case. It indicates a non-partnership. There are other instances in the Hebrew when the plural personal pronoun we may indicate a singular form especially in terms of royalty. In such a case it is about the intent not the content.

  • Does not the singular personal pronoun I exist in the Arab language? Do Arabs, in respect for themselves, go around using the word WE as in We are coming when they really mean I am coming?

  • y there isnt any singular personal pronoun i exist in the english language?Queen of england uses we too to give herself respect.

  • 123dsj123,

    Yes, there is a singular first person personal pronoun in Arabic. "Ana" like the Hebrew "Ani" . . . and the plural form "Nahnu" like the Hebrew "Anahnu"

    Yes, the Koran is really fucked up when reading it in ARABIC where it is ALL using the plural first person personal pronoun "WE" "NOUS" "NOSOTROS" "WIJ" "WIR" "мы" etc . . .. . and yes, someone used a GREAT example as to how the queen of england, or royalty uses it, BUT apart from the Koran, Arabic does not use "WE" to mean "I"

  • I like you, brother TXHalabi, for the insightful information you sent me about all the usage of the plural pronouns (we, our, ours) in the Quran. It is a gem (jewel). May God continue to bless you.

  • My brother, TXHalabi, please let me bother you one more time. Will you please tell me what these words mean in English: NOUS NOSOTROS WIJ WIR MBI? Are they Arabic or Hebrew?

  • I apologize for that . . . I just gave the word "WE" in several languages ; in order (French, Spanish, Dutch, German, and Russian)

    Sorry,  I was getting carried away . . . but only because it's NATURAL for royalty to use the plural first person pronoun when refering to the singular, but NOT in arabic. It is REALLY never common.

    Are you aware of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat? Those were the three daughters of the god, Al-Lah, (a "pre-islamic" deity) all 4 are mentioned in the quran and I sometimes

  • [CONT....]

    and I sometimes wonder if the "WE" that we find in the Koran refers to all 4, the father, and his 3 godess daughters.

    Mohammad once actually bowed down to all of the three goddesses, however, that verse was abrogated when the "Angel Gabriel told him that it was Satan who told him to worship those additional deities"

    Islam stems out of Paganism, and my latest research is on proving its ever consistent pursuit of pagan ideologies and beliefs.

  • TXHalabi:

    .... BUT apart from the Koran, Arabic does not use "WE" to mean "I"

    Peace,

    This is from Wikipedia:

    Majestic plural:

    The tradition of the 'Royal We' may also be traced to the MUGHALS of India and Sultans of Banu ABBAS and Banu UMAYYAH.

    Da Umayyads, Abbasids & da Moghuls are Muslims. The former two were Arabic dynasties and used the "Majestic Plural".

  • This was NEVER used in arabic BEFORE the Qur'an, as in "3asr Al Jahileeya" The Age of Ignorance

    Also, dynasties were directly after Islam began.

    Modern day arabic royalty does NOT say WE to refer to oneself. The King of Jordan, Morocco, or Saudi, none of them say WE. if they do, they continue by saying "WE, the Jordanians . .. "

    نحن نريد أن نذهب إلى الجامع الأقصى

    Does that even sound right to you coming from 1 person and referring to himself only?

  • TXHalabi #1:

    .... BUT apart from the Koran, Arabic does not use "WE" to mean "I"

    TXHalabi #2:

    This was NEVER used in arabic BEFORE the Qur'an, as in "3asr Al Jahileeya" The Age of Ignorance

    Peace Mr. Halabi,

    Ur 2nd statement contradicts ur 1st. wherein U state EMPHATICALLY 'apart from the Koran, Arabic does not use "WE" to mean "I" '

    Arabs DO use da Royal Plural in their edicts and correspondence & folks address them in da PLURAL.

  • TXHalabi #1:

    .... BUT apart from the Koran, Arabic does not use "WE" to mean "I"

    TXHalabi #2:

    This was NEVER used in arabic BEFORE the Qur'an, as in "3asr Al Jahileeya" The Age of Ignorance

    Peace Mr. Halabi,

    Ur 2nd statement seems 2 contradicts ur 1st. wherein U state EMPHATICALLY 'apart from the Koran, ARABIC does not use "WE" to mean "I" '

    Arabs DO use da Royal Plural in their edicts & correspondence & folks address them in da PLURAL.

    Yo, Halabi! What gives? U're silent.

  • That's very interesting, so is your point that Islam was somehow influenced by those Pakis - please excuse my French - I mean Arabic.

    Muhammed was a merchant and did travel all over, so it could be a possibility from my strictly athiest perspective, though for muslims it was only influenced by the devine.

    The Quran is also interesting as it contains words which have no meaning in Arabic, like "Alif laam meem". TC

  • You said, Allah uses the word We as a respect. My question is this: Allah uses the word WE as a respect to himself, or to which other gods?

  • No, as a respect to himself. & this question was answered & settled back in the 7th century. You may check out Tafsir ibn Kathir of the Koran, especially Surrah 3 verse 7, & the 112th surrah.

  • Sura 2:216 "War is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing (War) which is good for you and that ye love a thing (Disbelief) which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not.

    "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah." Qur'an:8:39

  • these verses are for the battle fields.

  • Fuck Muslims!

    America! Fuck yeah!

  • "And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, ....; for I will make him a great nation. A... And God was with the lad; and he grew, .... And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: .. NIV Bible, Genesis 21:17-21)"

  • the wilderness of Paran... search for that AloyBlue.

  • لعنكم الله جميعا ,, محمد اشرف الخلق اجمعين

    اللهم صلِ وسلم وبارك على سيدنا وحبيبنا وحبيبك محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم

    .

  • محمد أحب ممارسة الجنس مع الأطفال

  • Are you sure you are getting historical information that is based on facts, research, and objectivity or is all your information subjective, with no regard to genuine history?

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  • can't you think more than country matters.what u think,i don't know rules...brother pls forget this india,pakistan ,first of all be muslim.

    u r not my enemy...if you have not seen the pictures showing Inside Kaaba ,in only 2 pics we can see inside view....

    1)first is completely inside..

    2) in 2nd pic,with king . Mr.Musharraf coming out.

    as u asked me is it true video.then i sujested u to chk video using that picture...

  • salam bhai,

    pls accept my video response ,lets show everyone the real inside view of Kaaba !

    Allah Hafiz

    King

    slaveofAllah

  • is this true?

  • ofcource brother,you can see it clearly ....if any confusion then match the items in kaaba.with the pics showing inside kaaba.....

    in that pakistan gen musharaf was coming out .... chk in slow motion !

    u scareing me ! baap re baap!

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  • pakistani ,i'm making fun ...who paskitani... ? i'm not getting what u r saying ! pls explain !

  • Let's not forget that Christians were extremely violent individuals (the Crusades, the Reformation). Most of Europe and North Africa lived in relative peace during Islamic reign. Moreover, they were tolerant of Jewish and Christian faith until Christian rule.  (Btw, I am Christian.)

  • It is not imperialism, but rather an ability to see similarities among major monotheistic religions. The prophets all worship the same God. Although, only Christianity sees Jesus Christ as Lord, they all worship the same Father. It's against an individual's rights to want and make everyone submit and comply with one's beliefs. You must remember that none of it is based on genuine history, only sacred history. There is no difference between Jjihadism and the Crusades.

  • Wrong. The Crusaders were acting contrary to the New Testament; they could not point to that scripture and find justification or sanction for what they did. The doctrine of Jihad, on the other hand, is clearly divinely mandated by Allah, according the the "Prophet." Muhammad gave the jihadists their marching orders, valid for all time, to subjugate, convert or kill all those inhabitants of Dar al-Kufr. The God of the Bible did not call for forcible conversion, much less death. Allah did.

  • Wrong. Islam never forced anyone to convert-the Christians did that. "Muslim conquerers did not force conversion upon the conquered peoples; indeed they did not even encourage it" (Aslan, No god but God 80). Moreover, "The doctrine of jihad, like so many doctrines in Islam, was not fully developed as an ideological expression until long after Muhammad's death" (79). "There are a host of words in Arabic that can be definitively translated as 'war;' jihad is NOT one of them" (81).

  • You are a putting a false smiley face on Islam. What would have become of the innocent people subjugated by Muslim invaders had they refused to pay the extortionist and humiliating jizya? Read the Islamic commentators from Ibn Kathir, Ibn Qayyim, and al-Qayrawani to Mawdudi and Qutb;you can't deny that Jihad is indeed religious sanctioned holy war, or should I say, "unholy war." Are you sure you aren't getting your false info from apologists for Islam like Karen Armstrong and John Esposito?

  • Sincerely, putting a smiley face on Islam is not my intention, but what I would like to do is explain that religion - faith - is an interpretation. Those men that you mentioned all RADICALLY interpreted Islam because of already pre-existing biases, and none of their interpretations have any truth, nor do they have anything to do with Muhammad's Islam. They interpreted Islam, jihad, etc. in the same ways radical Christians interpreted Christianity. The Crusades were a "holy war," jihad is not.

  • Have any truth? What does that mean? These scholars are thoroughly mainstream. Find me one Muslim today who distances himself from them as "radicals." You are re-inventing Islam in accordance with your own "enlightened" beliefs. Muslims today suffer no guilt about the crusades that THEY waged to conquer Christian lands in the 7th century. The Christian crusades paled in conparison to the bloody Islamic wars of conquest. Which Muslims today consider jihad as contrary to Muhammad's teachings?

  • They were NOT "Christian lands." (This PROVES that you will NEVER possibly be objective about Islam and Muhammad because, just like the men you mentioned in an earlier post, your own biased beliefs are keeping you from the truth, which makes you just as guilty as the Muslim men you seem to despise. Christians were/are guilty of the same monstrosities in the way of acquiring land for the purpose of gaining POWER. History provides evidence in the form of written word, continue reading. God Bless.

  • "These scholars are thoroughly mainstream." I don't honestly see the point of this argument. The fact is you would prefer to dismiss their historical findings because they do not fit with what you WANT Islam to be. The only thing I would wish for you to gain is some semblance of tolerance.

  • Muhammad did not give the "jihadists" their marching orders. He and his Companions fought the Quraysh who perpetuated the beliefs of polytheism. "Jihad is best defined as a primitive "just war theory:" a theory born out of necessity and developed in the midst of a bloody and often chaotic war that erupted in 624 CE between Muhammad's community and the Quraysh" Aslan 81). Where do you get your information outtatown? Any historians concerned with genuine history has never wrote that...

  • Like I said, the Crusaders were extremely violent and evil as a matter of fact: they raped women, pillaged, violently murdered, defiled, etc. There are historic documents that describe the bloody scenes. Furthermore, many Arabic words and phrases can be interpreted in many ways. For example, the phrase, adribuhunna [with reference to women] can be interpreted as "beat them" and even "turn away from them, " go along with them," and, remarkably even, "have consensual intercourse with them."

  • Muslims claim to honor all the prophets. But what they know about the prophets is based on the incoherent and distorted gibberish of the Quran. Muslims reroactively call Abraham, Jesus, Moses, etc. "Muslims" but this is really an act of Islamic imperialism, an attempt to expunge Judaism and Christianity. Any of the true prophets would be ashamed to be called "muslims". It is an offense to God Almighty.

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  • Excellent point! It makes no sense to claim that you honour Jesus as a prophet, while maintaining that Christianity was a perversion of Jesus' message FROM THE WORD GO. That would make Jesus a COMPLETE FAILURE as a prophet. Of course in the O.T. there's not a hint of an Arabic prophet-to-come, even though Muhammadan commentators have been desperately forcing the interpretation of some passages to mean just that. They're not able to accept that Muhammad is on his own.

  • Soon the Muslims will be dancing around their precious kaaba in Mecca and praying that Allah sends them some balls. That little black rock won't help them. In fact, the Prophet PBUH will soon be crapping little black rocks when he sees the Israeli F-15s streaking towards Mecca.Don't worry; we'll give you the choice of conversion or death just as you gave the millions of innocent people you Muslims have subjugated throughout the world. If it's death, the virgins and little boys await.

  • Oh really, you mean the choice you israliattes ( the jews) give to Jesus?

  • السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاتة

  • wa-aleakum-ass-salam-wa-rahmat­-ull-ahi-wa-barakathu

  • Worshiping a meteor...how very profound! What a great gift to humanity is this Muhammadan cult!

  • Well , if you can pray to a GOD who died on the cross then What's wrong with the stone?

    Anyway, correct your facts , muslim does not pray to any stone but Allah. Umar , the companion of Prophet Muhammad ,once said and I qoute " I kiss this stone (the meteor you are talking about) because I saw prophet doing it. Otherwise , neither this stone can harm any one nor benefit"

    Last but not least , if you don't have knowledge then better keep quiet or acquire it.

  • That's good advice, Wajih. I've read the Qur'an in several translations. I have an (abridged) edition of Ibn Ishag and I've read other books from the Islamic world, among them Rumi's Mathnawi. So without being an expert or Islamic scholar, my opinion of this creed is not simply based on media stories and Western myths. As to the God-stone comparison, I'd say that the story of Jesus dying on the Cross is just a tad more INTERESTING than the Kaaba stone.

  • Read Quran in several translation and many other books from the Islamic world and still could not figure out that Muslims dont pray or worship a Meteor? I am surprised!!!

    Go and Check Quran again where it is written several times "There is no GOD except ALLAH"

  • I know very will that Muhammadans don't actually CALL it worshiping, but it IS worshiping. (Catholics always say, when they're challenged by Protestants about their attitude towards the Virgin Mary "No, we don't adore Mary, we adore only God we just 'revere' Mary). Look at them ritually circling around the Kaaba (M kissed this stone --oooh, that makes it soooo very special). It's an empty ritual. Oh, btw, you don't WORSHIP M either, but you DO think it's BLASPHEMY to mock this would-be prophet!

  • Just because "You" declare it worship does not make it worship . You have answered yourself , How one can be Muslim , if he is not following the teaching of Prophet Mohammad? It is not worship because Prophet Mohammad has said so , Got it?

    As for the BLASPHEMY, we (muslims) consider Mocking any prophet as BLASPHEMY and that include Christ as well. Not Only Prophet Mohammad.

    It is unfortunate , that people react strangely and in wrong ways only when someone disrespect Prophet Mohammad.

  • It's not an empty ritual, it's just faith, an interpretation - spirituality.

  • i thought this kaaba was a stone, not a building =/

  • Q: Now that I have converted, is it ok to acquire all islamic knowledge from books?

    A: Islam is a not a religion of self-interpretation. It is a straight path based on knowledge that must be acquired. It is a lifestyle that has to be adhered to, and is unfortunately being influenced by many negative elements, both within and outside Islam.

  • Without a guide, it is difficult to differentiate the truth of Islam from the created falsehoods that are being propogated as Islamic teachings.

  • Q: Is it all right for him to say his prayers in English?

    A: The Salat should be done in the same way as the Prophet -peace be upon him- did it. The Prophet said, Pray as you have seen me praying. (al-Bukhari 595 and many other Ahadith). This means that the timings, the rakahs, the positions, the language, the readings, the special adhkar etc. all of them must be according to the way of the Prophet.

  • A new Muslim can begin with few words and should learn the whole prayer in Arabic as soon as possible. It is not very difficult.

  • Q: How will I acquire knowledge on Islam? There is alot of information on islam online, is that enough?

    A: Through books, magazines, internet, and most importantly, through contact with scholars.

    Islam on line can be a good thing, but be careful.

  • "The Internet can be a wonderful place for learning about Islam. In fact, since my conversion, the Internet has been my primary source of materials with which to educate myself further about Islam. There are many excellent sites, but I would caution the new Muslim not to accept the information on all sites blindly, particularly if they have an arrogant, strident or unpleasant tone or stray from plain facts and concentrate on controversial opinion or on an overtly political agenda

  • In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

    [1] Alif Lam Mim.

    [2] These are Verses of the Wise Book,

    [3] A Guide and a Mercy to the Doers of Good,

    [4] Those who establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity, and have (in their hearts) the assurance of the Hereafter.

  • [5] These are on (true) guidance from their Lord; and these are the ones who will prosper.

    [6] But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a humiliating Penalty.

  • alllman2000, the Koran like the original Torah & Bible are the words of God. It is therefore not surprising that they contain similiarities. As Muslims we are taught to respect & accept the original Torah & Bible as we do the Koran. You note that the Koran is "mish mash". Nice way to describe a book that is studied by many non Muslims around the world. As for history, well all races have played their part. As for eating pork, well you continue to eat the meat of an animal that eats its own crap.