@trailkeeper In todays market it is hard to say what priciing is on new construction nowadays. Building a concrete shell in a week or less should give you some idea has to how less expensive a stucture is to build though. Additionally a monolithic concrete structure has no air leaks making these structures indestructible and super energy efficient
My only problem with this is that it looks like a Tornado etc. could lift the thing right off the ground the way it's small and stuck up out of the ground. In my view, you should build the thing half in the ground, and more angled.
@leeuniverse If you think a tornado will lift this structure you need to read up on monolithic concrete construction. This dome along with the concrete foundation would have to lifted in one piece!
@buck3647 Well, I know Tornado's can take out concrete buildings, and yes I do know that this particular design can't compare to the other stuff, that it will be much stronger, it's just it seems like there is still a risk. Anyway, no biggy. Just providing a possible even better suggestion. :)
I would suggest some kind of ceramic-based material for the coating. Ceramic thermal spray coatings are resistant to erosion and high temperatures (they don't burn). As for cost... I haven't a clue.
@Bobbylongmusic Ceramic based coating require very high temp for the cure process? Where do you get your info? Maybe a direct hit on your house from a tactical nuke will complete the bonding process!!!! Almost all ceramic coatings that I know of are applied using a flame spray process using a hydrogen/oxygen flame at approx 3000F. Did I miss something in the industry? Probably kinda like the enviro wacko's cold fusion they taunt every now and again.
@sakoshooter48 The cermic coating I think he's talking about isn't really ceramic. It does not require painting though. Someone tried to scam my mother out of $15k to spary her 2300 sqft house....they used the term ceramic too????
I would much prefer to put an earth cover on it. Even making adobe would be better for covering concrete. Why? Because that foam that's being sprayed on is 1. toxic
2. will catch fire
3. create a totally 'black' toxic smoke.
I don't like any urethane products. Sorry...but the structure is primo, in and of itself. Sooooooo, are you gonna put adobe over it now? :)
You think because you typed 6 lines of words your going to make somebody cover their structure with material that is completely unnecessary? It's already finished. Why the hell do you think he's going to put adobe over it NOW??
Martians advise you to use natural insulators and finishing. There are plenty of alternatives to the toxic foan that is carried away by the wind and left in the surrounding woods to kill off the flora and fauna.
Reason for imperfect foam is that the concrete base was not smooth Error on my part thinking that the 3 inches of foam would cover any uneven concrete now I know.
If I had spent the extra money to have the concrete smooth the foam would have gone on like glass and the need for extra step of lathe and stucco would not have been required. See other videos with the final finish
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interesting how many people come into an intellectual battle unarmed. Air formed is inflated, rebar put in place, foam is sprayed..some say poison..hmm must live in conventional houses with fiberglass insulation..fiberglass. interesting. Their R value at best in the walls is maybe r15? The monolithic type..say r 50. Ceilings in a conventional house..best, r30? Monolithic is r 50.
Indestructible? Umm. maybe not. But has survived many tornadoes. the neighbor's didn't fare as well. Do research.
@buck3647 Urethane Foam is a very safe material that when applied properly is very good insulation material, perhaps the best. In our lives we are surrounded with the product from car bumpers to mattresses. A wonderful use of Chemistry. I will say however, I have seen better looking foam applications.
Perhaps some believe that this dome is all foam? NO this is a concrete building with the foam on the exterior, do people believe that concrete is toxic??
Where is all of this talk about toxic materials coming from? What exactly do you folks consider toxic? The microsecond it takes to mix 2 products at the nozzle does not affect the environment and if so very minimal compared to the environmental savings for the end goal of saving energy and reducing the need for fossil fuel. If you make a statement if would be nice to have some docs to back that statement. We could all live much better lives if we were not so resistant to change
@buck3647 There is also foam based on green technology using water as the blowing agent. Don't want foam to stick to your car? Spray it with the same stuff that the autobody shops use or liquid dish soap.
Nothing toxic here being used. The foam was water based foam. Ugly hmmm guess that is what the 2 pigs said the the third pig when he built his brick home. This dome was eventually going to be the garage
I can see a bird landing on the roof while it is still wet. hehehe. Kinda like a weather vane heheh. Poor bird that lands on the urethane when wet hahah.
Getting an Xray 4 broken bones can be toxic, geez it blows my mind how some of u have toxic issues on every substance known 2 man. It makes more sense 2 build a dome hm that can w/stand hurricaines, tornados, & fires, as well as most earthquakes than it does 4 u traditional people 2 keep rebuilding reg hms that will just cave in during the next disaster. U use toxic insulation in your hms too so stop being such hypocrites.
R values are somewhat misleading. Even though fiberglass batt has an R value it does not eliminate air leaks FOAM does, The combination of Foam with R of 7 per inch and no air leaks bumps the value up to around 15 per inch. This 30 ft dome has 3 inches of closed cell foam over 1,500 sq ft it took 1.5 sets costing $3,500 for material. Now for the cost of foam not only do I have a sealer but also insulation, heat never gets to the concrete
What is the R value of the urethane foam spray? Also, where do you buy the foam and how much is it? Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am going to be building an earth bag home in the very near future and am trying to get my budget figured out. Thank you.
I cant believe all the negative comments from treehuggers. I guess only a home built of tofu is acceptable. That is why most of the world ignores them.
@jedirifleman Hey you ignorant moron! This stuff is toxic crap and you can call us treehuggers if it gets you laid but you sound like a retard. I work with building natural buildings and we don't make them out of tofu. Strawbales, clay, sand, earth, cow-manure, clay-wattle, wattle and daub etc. there are a lot of techniques that have been working for thousands of years so why buy toxic crap from dirty capitalists??? Give me one good reason before defending poison!
@ASonOfMan The design itself is worth investigating. I'm no pro at this sort of building, but I would be interested to see how this design would work using a hemp-lime based product instead of concrete for the form. That should make it stronger than concrete, increase the R-value, greatly reduce the environmental impact and eliminate the off-gasing. The sprayed styrofoam could be skipped altogether and just be finished with the standard stucco finish or experiment with other finishes like sod.
@jedirifleman way to discriminate, really proves you are better than those you look down upon. Also if you listen to someone who says something does that mean you will hear it again from another person you just believe will have the same thoughts?
We got ired trying to contact the Japanese company building the eco foam and they never replied back. I guess with the earthquake now, their business is over.
We tired trying to contact the Japanese company building the eco foam and they never replied back. I guess with the earthquake now, their business is over.
I will sell you this house at 30% bigger and 20% discount. They are called Martian Tight Turtle Shells Contact me before 7-11-11 boogergerue52@lighthouse period com
As long as the foam is protected from the UV rays foam will last forever but the normal lifespan is from 15 to 30 years. Foam blocks that houseboats sit on in Seattle have been in water for over 30 years in some cases, its all in the coating.
This is called icf construction and is excellent though not as strong as a dome shape but still better than most construction Unfortunately many icf structures still use wood truss roofs NOT Acceptable for an indestructible home. Remember if a home is not tornado proof it is not hurricane proof.
Currently in the process of designing an icf structure using vaulted concrete roof creating a monolithic concrete structure.
@buck3647 Yeah, but there's a lot of different ways of saving energy. I'm talking about the foam itself. How is it manufactured? Where is it manufactured? Is it safe to breathe in if it is fragmented into small particles? Can it be recycled and if, how much energy does that process use? Waterproof and heat saving is not the only aspects of a material. There are other materials such as foamglas that is extremely good insulation and is completely waterproof and made from recycled glas.
@buck3647 You also have the ceramic paint ThermoShield that reflects heat, insulates, has a very high capillary effect and keeps away fungus and is made in a very energy effective process. Together with foamglas this could easily meet the efectiveness of Styrofoam. Also, Styrofoam is a petroleum-based product wich doesn't biodegrade and fills our landfills. If these problems are solved and these questions about it is adressed, I would love to use. But to say it's the future.... I just don't know
@buck3647 saving energy has almost nothing to do with health! Foam insulation like polyurethane or insulation materials such as polystyrene (EPS & DOW insulations) are ultra toxic materials causing health problems. They hurt the lungs and cause allergic reactions...at least!
I would never live in such a house!
It may me earthquake or tornado resistant, but it is absolutely toxic!
@buck3647 saving energy has almost nothing to do with health! Foam insulation like polyurethane or insulation materials such as polystyrene (EPS & DOW insulations) are ultra toxic materials causing health problems. They hurt the lungs and cause allergic reactions...at least!
I would never live in such a house!
It may me earthquake or tornado resistant, but it is absolutely toxic!
Not sure where you are getting your facts? Perhaps you need to view SprayFoam,com and educate yourself on the numerous foam insulation products out there some use a water base some use soy. In my use the foam in on the exterior of 4 to 6 inches of concrete and several layers of sealer and stucco protection over the exterior foam. If this material was as you say it is I doubt it would be the most growing industry in the country?
@buck3647 Yeah, soy is not environmentally friendly either. So perhaps YOU need to read up on the facts. The fact that this CRAP is the most growing industry in the country doesn't mean anything. And concrete stands for 9% of the total CO2-emmissions in the world so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
I like the idea and I believe you can have some success with it but please please please make sure anyone spraying the foam coating is wearing proper respiratory equipment!!!
I like the idea and I believe you can have some success with it but please please please make sure anyone spraying the foam coating is wearing proper respiratory equipment!!!
Still have not foamed a mobile home as of yet had to complete the finish on the Inverness Dome first Will begin to foam a mobile home sometime in 2011 Stay Tuned
Thanks to all for your input good and bad I can take it
D Pressler
For Sale by Owner $100,000 waterfront half acre Inverness, Florida with room to grow
The final finish has been applied to the dome and can be viewed at a video uploaded please browse and see the finished dome with deck.
Will sell this half acre waterfront property in Inverness, Florida possible owner financing asking $100,000. Feedback from Haiti has been that the people do not want to live in a concrete home, I understand but somehow they need to be shown how strong a concrete home can be made to withstand not only hurricanes but also earthquakes.
wow, what an ugly dome & a terrible ccf application job. Was this the first time that guy ever sprayed foam?! Hopefully, your Stucco guy is a miracle worker & can smooth out the exterior for you. :(
You are absolutely correct but the new approach I plan requires an innovative technique to not only cover foam but make it look cosmetically good at the same time. In the future I plan to spary foam on exteriors of existing homes and mobile homes using cosmetic the techniques learned from this Exterior foam project.
Please check in on the tube periodically to see how the next step in this learning curve project has turned out.
Stupid question/idea: How well would it work if after you put the foam on the outside of the concrete, you let it cure, and then you put another thin set of concrete on top of that? This way your polyurethane foam was in the middle of the sandwich so to speak...Would that even work?
Because of the flexibility of foam the top layer of concrete would begin to crack and possibly pieces would actually fall off similiar to stucco getting moisture behind it.
Or consider foam an artistic design and live with the fact that it is not a perfect flat manicured surface.
With the closed cell foam on the exterior the interior now becomes a closed environment so to speak meaning the temperature inside will remain at a basic level and easier to regulate. This is accomplished by not only the exterior foam but also removing air leaks. Now that the interior does not fluctuate dramtically as with conventional construction the energy drain to regulate the interior temp is greatly reduced. This structure will utilize ductless AC by Mitsibushi
what a bunch of whiners. Don't mind them buck. This is great. Other than pigs who wants to live in dirt? You people breathe poison just inhaling. Hmm, maybe you should stop doing that.
I think you should've just built the thing how Monolithic prescribes instead of poisoning the environment with the urethane foam. I think it was wasteful and not well thought out!
Not sure what your point is? I let Gravity work for me and in Florida foam does not need to be sprayed indoors. Only difference I do not leave a rubber finish over my foam.
Built my first 2 story arcn vaulted monolithic concrete structure in 1985
and shortly completing this 30 foot dome with 30 2 bedroom addition
How many monolithic structures have you built?
What is it with this notion that foam is toxic?
Water is used as the catalyst then it immediately stops off gasing once mixed
@SherrieLeaLaird although I see the dude probably meant well if he's into dome homes of dirt too. But yeah normally I get nothing but haters. STockholm syndrome patients hound my page.
@buck3647 My point is that toxic material off gas toxins for decades and are expensive and environmentally devastating to produce & use. Plus, it means more money in the pocket of the oil cartels who are ruining our world. Why support that cycle of ecological destruction & economic disparity & ruin your health to boot? It's a Lose-Lose proposition.
What's the point of using TOXIC, Petroleum Intensive materials to build your house in the age of Peak Oil? Search Cal-Earth and check out their all natural domes made with mainly DIRT and simpler tools. If you can't breathe it, do you really wanna LIVE in it?
@kingofthebrittains who wants to hear all the mumbo jumbo bullshit that the "guru" of cal-earth has to shit from his mouth? half of his vids are wasted on preaching. NO THX !!! PASS ~!!!
@jedirifleman I'm sorry you feel so "damaged" by someone else's opinions. I'd rather listen to logic & ignore the guys' religious views than live in a house made of toxic goop that puts more money in exxon's pocket. Stryo is made of petroleum which is not only toxic, but going the way of the dodo. Oil prices are going nowhere but up, so this kind of s house will become more & more expensive. Dirt is still free, until the banksters and plutocrats find a way to charge for it.
@kingofthebrittains it isn't toxic to breathe after it cures hippie. Secondly, we need to be exploring alternatives to petroleum based plastics such as those derived from soybean, and hemp seed oil. Dirt? Are you serious? Now thats the future. "Hey guys, come check out my dirt house." It's called a berm home. Why would you go to the trouble of constructing a dome home, if you're going to make it out of dirt. That totally defeats the purpose.
@stehenallein Can you Prove that is true? No. Why? B/C it's not been tested long term. Like Asbestos, lead, Melamine, and a million other "Safe" products. Dirt is the reason you're here. Dirt is LIFE. The oldest, most time tested structures on Earth are made form earth. There are sod & strawbale houses in the Midwest (Tornado Alley) & cob houses in England that have survived Hundreds of years. Fact check before you spout off &Google "Net Energy" b4 you tout alternative plastics as panaceas.
@kingofthebrittains Dome homes built from "toxic" materials can withstand exterem weather conditions. I don't believe that a dirt dome is going to withstand an f5 tornado.
What do you think cement is made of? When the finished product is dry it has no ill effects. The earthbag is a very good way to use lots of labor and low cost but still has a long way to go.
@elvieken Cement is made of heated, powdered rock & i know it takes a lot of energy to make, but consider that an earthbag home only uses 5% cement in the earth mix and can be made without cement at all. The reason Cal-Earth uses it is to meet Cali's stringent seismic codes. People have been making adobe w/out cement for millenia, in ancient Egypt for example. Plus, do you KNOW that this stuff is non toxic, or did some industry shill pass that info along? Worse yet, it supports Big Oil.
A monolithic concrete structure has no bearing walls. The steel cage that the concrete covers will flex and perhaps concrete will break and crack but the steel cage will remain NOT Collapse,
envision an upside down swimming pool .
These structures can be designed in a variety of shapes the dome being the strongest. Germany used reinforced concrete for bunkers at Normandy, they are still there after many attempts to bomb them.
Great! All we need now is a Hurricane to test this shit!
RagingBubuli 2 days ago
i dont think itll last or be durable enough for the weather
jeryl1968 1 week ago
I love this idea. I'm just wondering about off gassing? Polyurethane is pretty toxic. Has the air inside been tested after its cured up?
sabramarie101 1 week ago
NO mask NO googles ?????
9057979 2 weeks ago
It's funny the guy has a protective suit on and no mask lol what a smart move
mamanestas 2 weeks ago
How much per square foot for a typical wooden or brick home, and how much for this?
trailkeeper 2 weeks ago
@trailkeeper In todays market it is hard to say what priciing is on new construction nowadays. Building a concrete shell in a week or less should give you some idea has to how less expensive a stucture is to build though. Additionally a monolithic concrete structure has no air leaks making these structures indestructible and super energy efficient
buck3647 2 weeks ago
The room climate is for sure great. Sealed to outside world, no air or water-wapor exchange. Great for using it as a coffin for a pharao.
AlMayer1100 1 month ago
My only problem with this is that it looks like a Tornado etc. could lift the thing right off the ground the way it's small and stuck up out of the ground. In my view, you should build the thing half in the ground, and more angled.
leeuniverse 1 month ago
@leeuniverse If you think a tornado will lift this structure you need to read up on monolithic concrete construction. This dome along with the concrete foundation would have to lifted in one piece!
buck3647 2 weeks ago
@buck3647 Well, I know Tornado's can take out concrete buildings, and yes I do know that this particular design can't compare to the other stuff, that it will be much stronger, it's just it seems like there is still a risk. Anyway, no biggy. Just providing a possible even better suggestion. :)
leeuniverse 2 weeks ago
A large vat of tar would of been smoother and easier to apply- also would last a lot longer- throw some pretty gravel on it and voila!
drumheadcircle 3 months ago
flinstones
89andyman 3 months ago
I would suggest some kind of ceramic-based material for the coating. Ceramic thermal spray coatings are resistant to erosion and high temperatures (they don't burn). As for cost... I haven't a clue.
Bobbylongmusic 3 months ago
@Bobbylongmusic Ceramic based coating require very high temp for the cure process? Where do you get your info? Maybe a direct hit on your house from a tactical nuke will complete the bonding process!!!! Almost all ceramic coatings that I know of are applied using a flame spray process using a hydrogen/oxygen flame at approx 3000F. Did I miss something in the industry? Probably kinda like the enviro wacko's cold fusion they taunt every now and again.
sakoshooter48 2 months ago
@sakoshooter48 The cermic coating I think he's talking about isn't really ceramic. It does not require painting though. Someone tried to scam my mother out of $15k to spary her 2300 sqft house....they used the term ceramic too????
beachnative420 1 month ago
@beachnative420 Coating is closed cell 3lb foam with a silicone sealer sprayed over a synthetic stucco
buck3647 2 weeks ago
@sakoshooter48 No ceramic coating used on this project only 3lb closed cell foam and synthetic stucco
buck3647 2 weeks ago
@buck3647 I am aware, I was questioning someone here who posted about ceramic coating.
sakoshooter48 2 weeks ago
I wonder if the old white wash lime product used 30+ years ago would have made a better coating! Thank you for sharing your video!
troybrownrigg 3 months ago
will it stick to those cars ....i think sooooo
89coolvideo 4 months ago
Love the shelter (and your responses to comments)!
Douglascs83 4 months ago
I would much prefer to put an earth cover on it. Even making adobe would be better for covering concrete. Why? Because that foam that's being sprayed on is 1. toxic
2. will catch fire
3. create a totally 'black' toxic smoke.
I don't like any urethane products. Sorry...but the structure is primo, in and of itself. Sooooooo, are you gonna put adobe over it now? :)
leahanna412003 5 months ago
@leahanna412003
You think because you typed 6 lines of words your going to make somebody cover their structure with material that is completely unnecessary? It's already finished. Why the hell do you think he's going to put adobe over it NOW??
undercop5567 1 month ago
IS THIS NUKE PROOF
PHONEYPOLITICS 5 months ago
Foam - - - WHY NOT USE EARTH AND GRASS, EVER SEEN THE TELETUBBIES FFS.
PHONEYPOLITICS 5 months ago
Martians advise you to use natural insulators and finishing. There are plenty of alternatives to the toxic foan that is carried away by the wind and left in the surrounding woods to kill off the flora and fauna.
MARSTVCHANNEL 6 months ago
So Cool I want one !!!
NONNIE357 6 months ago
Reason for imperfect foam is that the concrete base was not smooth Error on my part thinking that the 3 inches of foam would cover any uneven concrete now I know.
If I had spent the extra money to have the concrete smooth the foam would have gone on like glass and the need for extra step of lathe and stucco would not have been required. See other videos with the final finish
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goldenladyfun 6 months ago
interesting how many people come into an intellectual battle unarmed. Air formed is inflated, rebar put in place, foam is sprayed..some say poison..hmm must live in conventional houses with fiberglass insulation..fiberglass. interesting. Their R value at best in the walls is maybe r15? The monolithic type..say r 50. Ceilings in a conventional house..best, r30? Monolithic is r 50.
Indestructible? Umm. maybe not. But has survived many tornadoes. the neighbor's didn't fare as well. Do research.
GKAtascosa 7 months ago
Indestructible meaning it will last longer than 500 years
buck3647 7 months ago
@buck3647 Urethane Foam is a very safe material that when applied properly is very good insulation material, perhaps the best. In our lives we are surrounded with the product from car bumpers to mattresses. A wonderful use of Chemistry. I will say however, I have seen better looking foam applications.
bigadouch 6 months ago
i highly doubt this is indestructible
cefReconPaintBall 7 months ago
Perhaps some believe that this dome is all foam? NO this is a concrete building with the foam on the exterior, do people believe that concrete is toxic??
buck3647 7 months ago
Where is all of this talk about toxic materials coming from? What exactly do you folks consider toxic? The microsecond it takes to mix 2 products at the nozzle does not affect the environment and if so very minimal compared to the environmental savings for the end goal of saving energy and reducing the need for fossil fuel. If you make a statement if would be nice to have some docs to back that statement. We could all live much better lives if we were not so resistant to change
buck3647 7 months ago 9
@buck3647 But considering it only takes a molecule of most materials to change or distort human genes. They could use bio foam.
CedWii360 7 months ago
@buck3647 There is also foam based on green technology using water as the blowing agent. Don't want foam to stick to your car? Spray it with the same stuff that the autobody shops use or liquid dish soap.
beachnative420 2 weeks ago
@buck3647 its not about the2min mix is about ppl living in it Concrete everywhere is your ideal for housing+cities?
delagrazia 1 day ago
dude i love it! i think it rocks!
HOLLYHOUSE11 7 months ago
I agree this thing looks toxic to live in.
paracordjunky 7 months ago
So as to seal waterproof and insulate FOAM is the way to go. This structure would not be the design for Haiti only the concept DUDE
By the way if your home is not tornado proof it is not Hurricane proof
Homes could be built in Haiti to house a family of 5 for as little as $3000.
Look for my web site
safedomes com
Where will you go when the wind blows?
buck3647 8 months ago 2
So as to seal waterproof and insulate FOAM is the way to go. This structure would not be the design for Haiti only the concept DUDE
By the way if your home is not tornado proof it is not Hurricane proof
Homes could be built in Haiti to house a family of 5 for as little as $3000.
Where will you go when the wind blows?
buck3647 8 months ago
@buck3647
The average family in Haiti could not afford a 3000$ house. Nor would there be spray equipment and trained operators readily available.
The buildings in Haiti were made of concrete, they failed. A more flexible material and a smarter design (like a dome) would have sufficed.
mopieo 7 months ago
seems overkill with the foam dude, and the problem with buildinf a 65k dome in haiti, is maybe 5 people coulkd buy one
Earthlessness 8 months ago
Nothing toxic here being used. The foam was water based foam. Ugly hmmm guess that is what the 2 pigs said the the third pig when he built his brick home. This dome was eventually going to be the garage
buck3647 8 months ago
not a good idea to be using TOXIC environmentally hazardous materials around trees and where you plan to live. Go back and rethink this,
asarapi 8 months ago
Why would you use PU foam? I can't think of any material which is less bio-friendly...
Soldier957 8 months ago
Does anyone care that it is FUGLY as haeck???!!! Who wants to live like a Hobbit?
BiffKansas 9 months ago
1:35, bless you.
xXBTWxLoverxX 9 months ago
You sound like an idiot. And why would anyone even want this? Its virtually pointless and takes 2 days to set up. Stupid americans...
MrZeroCide 9 months ago
@MrZeroCide how fast do they building houses in the uk? moron.
stehenallein 9 months ago
Within 10 seconds you can walk on this material it gets hard fast, not funny for the bird.
Now have a mobile home fully encapsulated with closed cell foam in Ocala it no longer needs a central AC it is COLD
buck3647 9 months ago
I can see a bird landing on the roof while it is still wet. hehehe. Kinda like a weather vane heheh. Poor bird that lands on the urethane when wet hahah.
lewandlo 9 months ago
Getting an Xray 4 broken bones can be toxic, geez it blows my mind how some of u have toxic issues on every substance known 2 man. It makes more sense 2 build a dome hm that can w/stand hurricaines, tornados, & fires, as well as most earthquakes than it does 4 u traditional people 2 keep rebuilding reg hms that will just cave in during the next disaster. U use toxic insulation in your hms too so stop being such hypocrites.
JmoRee7 9 months ago 2
R values are somewhat misleading. Even though fiberglass batt has an R value it does not eliminate air leaks FOAM does, The combination of Foam with R of 7 per inch and no air leaks bumps the value up to around 15 per inch. This 30 ft dome has 3 inches of closed cell foam over 1,500 sq ft it took 1.5 sets costing $3,500 for material. Now for the cost of foam not only do I have a sealer but also insulation, heat never gets to the concrete
Rent to Own this dome $65,000 half acre on water
buck3647 9 months ago
What is the R value of the urethane foam spray? Also, where do you buy the foam and how much is it? Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am going to be building an earth bag home in the very near future and am trying to get my budget figured out. Thank you.
taylordesignsllc 9 months ago
I cant believe all the negative comments from treehuggers. I guess only a home built of tofu is acceptable. That is why most of the world ignores them.
jedirifleman 10 months ago 16
@jedirifleman Hey you ignorant moron! This stuff is toxic crap and you can call us treehuggers if it gets you laid but you sound like a retard. I work with building natural buildings and we don't make them out of tofu. Strawbales, clay, sand, earth, cow-manure, clay-wattle, wattle and daub etc. there are a lot of techniques that have been working for thousands of years so why buy toxic crap from dirty capitalists??? Give me one good reason before defending poison!
ASonOfMan 7 months ago
@ASonOfMan The design itself is worth investigating. I'm no pro at this sort of building, but I would be interested to see how this design would work using a hemp-lime based product instead of concrete for the form. That should make it stronger than concrete, increase the R-value, greatly reduce the environmental impact and eliminate the off-gasing. The sprayed styrofoam could be skipped altogether and just be finished with the standard stucco finish or experiment with other finishes like sod.
snazzy14u 1 week ago
@jedirifleman way to discriminate, really proves you are better than those you look down upon. Also if you listen to someone who says something does that mean you will hear it again from another person you just believe will have the same thoughts?
TrollTheGinger 4 months ago
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We got ired trying to contact the Japanese company building the eco foam and they never replied back. I guess with the earthquake now, their business is over.
randasites 10 months ago
We tired trying to contact the Japanese company building the eco foam and they never replied back. I guess with the earthquake now, their business is over.
randasites 10 months ago
@randasites one would think their business would be booming! All those houses to replace.
astrialkil 7 months ago
I will sell you this house at 30% bigger and 20% discount. They are called Martian Tight Turtle Shells Contact me before 7-11-11 boogergerue52@lighthouse period com
Comes with a 360 deg turret top. Don't wait.
IronHorsez88 1 year ago
Dome Rent to Own this half acre waterfront Dome is For Sale Rent to Own Inverness, Florida 34453
Asking $65,000
buck3647 1 year ago
As long as the foam is protected from the UV rays foam will last forever but the normal lifespan is from 15 to 30 years. Foam blocks that houseboats sit on in Seattle have been in water for over 30 years in some cases, its all in the coating.
buck3647 1 year ago
how long does that foam last?
gizliliman1 1 year ago
This is called icf construction and is excellent though not as strong as a dome shape but still better than most construction Unfortunately many icf structures still use wood truss roofs NOT Acceptable for an indestructible home. Remember if a home is not tornado proof it is not hurricane proof.
Currently in the process of designing an icf structure using vaulted concrete roof creating a monolithic concrete structure.
buck3647 1 year ago
Look for the post of the final completed dome with exterior finish Rent to Own
Link to the final cosmetic finish
Interior loft has been built over the kitchen able to sleep at least 2
This dome is for sale Rent to Own
buck3647 1 year ago
This crap can't be healthy, can it? Feels extremely unnatural.
ASonOfMan 1 year ago
@ASonOfMan
Not sure what you mean about being healthy? Foam is the future of insulation and waterproofing! Unnatural?
Once foam is applied to a conventional home the home will save 30% on energy the next day I say that is healthy for all of us on this planet.
buck3647 1 year ago
@buck3647 Yeah, but there's a lot of different ways of saving energy. I'm talking about the foam itself. How is it manufactured? Where is it manufactured? Is it safe to breathe in if it is fragmented into small particles? Can it be recycled and if, how much energy does that process use? Waterproof and heat saving is not the only aspects of a material. There are other materials such as foamglas that is extremely good insulation and is completely waterproof and made from recycled glas.
ASonOfMan 1 year ago
@buck3647 You also have the ceramic paint ThermoShield that reflects heat, insulates, has a very high capillary effect and keeps away fungus and is made in a very energy effective process. Together with foamglas this could easily meet the efectiveness of Styrofoam. Also, Styrofoam is a petroleum-based product wich doesn't biodegrade and fills our landfills. If these problems are solved and these questions about it is adressed, I would love to use. But to say it's the future.... I just don't know
ASonOfMan 1 year ago
@buck3647
Hemp is the future
CheckinGagaiNagain 11 months ago 4
@buck3647 saving energy has almost nothing to do with health! Foam insulation like polyurethane or insulation materials such as polystyrene (EPS & DOW insulations) are ultra toxic materials causing health problems. They hurt the lungs and cause allergic reactions...at least!
I would never live in such a house!
It may me earthquake or tornado resistant, but it is absolutely toxic!
Certainly not the best choice..
AgnessBass 10 months ago
@AgnessBass I agree, I rather build Earthships, cob-houses or use straw bales. This IS crap.
ASonOfMan 7 months ago
@buck3647 saving energy has almost nothing to do with health! Foam insulation like polyurethane or insulation materials such as polystyrene (EPS & DOW insulations) are ultra toxic materials causing health problems. They hurt the lungs and cause allergic reactions...at least!
I would never live in such a house!
It may me earthquake or tornado resistant, but it is absolutely toxic!
Certainly not the best choice..
AgnessBass 10 months ago
@AgnessBass
Not sure where you are getting your facts? Perhaps you need to view SprayFoam,com and educate yourself on the numerous foam insulation products out there some use a water base some use soy. In my use the foam in on the exterior of 4 to 6 inches of concrete and several layers of sealer and stucco protection over the exterior foam. If this material was as you say it is I doubt it would be the most growing industry in the country?
buck3647 10 months ago
@buck3647 Yeah, soy is not environmentally friendly either. So perhaps YOU need to read up on the facts. The fact that this CRAP is the most growing industry in the country doesn't mean anything. And concrete stands for 9% of the total CO2-emmissions in the world so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
ASonOfMan 7 months ago
@ASonOfMan
lol too much sun will kill you, apparently.
TheRecyclandChannel 1 year ago
@TheRecyclandChannel I don't get it???
ASonOfMan 7 months ago
@ASonOfMan
Hemp is the future
CheckinGagaiNagain 11 months ago
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ThinkPureTruth 11 months ago
@ThinkPureTruth ok hobbes lol.
The only offensive shit going on is your intolerance to other peoples opinions. stfu.
samljer 10 months ago
Perhaps this is why the company that sprayed is no longer in business.
Still setting up my foam trailer and will certainly be more pro active when it comes to safety
buck3647 1 year ago
I like the idea and I believe you can have some success with it but please please please make sure anyone spraying the foam coating is wearing proper respiratory equipment!!!
ienkling 1 year ago
I like the idea and I believe you can have some success with it but please please please make sure anyone spraying the foam coating is wearing proper respiratory equipment!!!
ienkling 1 year ago
Still have not foamed a mobile home as of yet had to complete the finish on the Inverness Dome first Will begin to foam a mobile home sometime in 2011 Stay Tuned
Thanks to all for your input good and bad I can take it
D Pressler
For Sale by Owner $100,000 waterfront half acre Inverness, Florida with room to grow
buck3647 1 year ago
The final finish has been applied to the dome and can be viewed at a video uploaded please browse and see the finished dome with deck.
Will sell this half acre waterfront property in Inverness, Florida possible owner financing asking $100,000. Feedback from Haiti has been that the people do not want to live in a concrete home, I understand but somehow they need to be shown how strong a concrete home can be made to withstand not only hurricanes but also earthquakes.
buck3647 1 year ago
What is the total price for one in NM???
percykirby2 1 year ago
Who are these guys doing the spraying? Are they insane or just want to die of cancer?
dirkstorm 1 year ago
wow, what an ugly dome & a terrible ccf application job. Was this the first time that guy ever sprayed foam?! Hopefully, your Stucco guy is a miracle worker & can smooth out the exterior for you. :(
cresidue 1 year ago
@cresidue
You are absolutely correct but the new approach I plan requires an innovative technique to not only cover foam but make it look cosmetically good at the same time. In the future I plan to spary foam on exteriors of existing homes and mobile homes using cosmetic the techniques learned from this Exterior foam project.
Please check in on the tube periodically to see how the next step in this learning curve project has turned out.
Stone Veneer might be the next application
buck3647 1 year ago
@buck3647 Cool, I will thanks :)
cresidue 1 year ago
@cresidue .....i have to agree
SPmQQse 1 year ago
@cresidue
Take a look at the finish currently applied currenlty on my updated youtube Florida Dome video
buck3647 1 year ago
@buck3647
What does something like t his cost, for say....about a 1500 square foot house?
MrPatrickHenry 1 year ago
@MrPatrickHenry Cost for a 1,500 sq ft would be around $75,000 using two 30ft domes
buck3647 1 year ago
Stupid question/idea: How well would it work if after you put the foam on the outside of the concrete, you let it cure, and then you put another thin set of concrete on top of that? This way your polyurethane foam was in the middle of the sandwich so to speak...Would that even work?
EverythingsRuined09 1 year ago
Because of the flexibility of foam the top layer of concrete would begin to crack and possibly pieces would actually fall off similiar to stucco getting moisture behind it.
Or consider foam an artistic design and live with the fact that it is not a perfect flat manicured surface.
buck3647 1 year ago
With the closed cell foam on the exterior the interior now becomes a closed environment so to speak meaning the temperature inside will remain at a basic level and easier to regulate. This is accomplished by not only the exterior foam but also removing air leaks. Now that the interior does not fluctuate dramtically as with conventional construction the energy drain to regulate the interior temp is greatly reduced. This structure will utilize ductless AC by Mitsibushi
buck3647 1 year ago
@buck3647 you should indicate to your spray mechanic that a respirator should be worn at all times using this product
bigadouch 1 year ago
@bigadouch
This specific application used water based foam
buck3647 1 year ago
@buck3647 I am Haitian and I say "No Thank you for your suggestions for obvious reasons."
levyvlad2 1 year ago
compared to a normal house ... would you say it feel warmer living inside? how is air circulation working in those ?
Ebrech 1 year ago
One of the things that makes these domes special is that all of the thermal mass is inside the insulating layer.
tmgibs34 1 year ago
what a bunch of whiners. Don't mind them buck. This is great. Other than pigs who wants to live in dirt? You people breathe poison just inhaling. Hmm, maybe you should stop doing that.
jokersexclusive0 1 year ago
I like the concept ! Great Stuff.
3shacks1house 2 years ago
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mojokiss 2 years ago
I think you should've just built the thing how Monolithic prescribes instead of poisoning the environment with the urethane foam. I think it was wasteful and not well thought out!
kieranpearson 2 years ago
Not sure what your point is? I let Gravity work for me and in Florida foam does not need to be sprayed indoors. Only difference I do not leave a rubber finish over my foam.
Built my first 2 story arcn vaulted monolithic concrete structure in 1985
and shortly completing this 30 foot dome with 30 2 bedroom addition
How many monolithic structures have you built?
What is it with this notion that foam is toxic?
Water is used as the catalyst then it immediately stops off gasing once mixed
buck3647 2 years ago 5
@buck3647 It's amazing how many freaks on youtube KNOW it all!!! Amazing WOrk!!! The steam car of houses! Fuck the government!
SherrieLeaLaird 1 year ago
@SherrieLeaLaird although I see the dude probably meant well if he's into dome homes of dirt too. But yeah normally I get nothing but haters. STockholm syndrome patients hound my page.
SherrieLeaLaird 1 year ago
@buck3647 My point is that toxic material off gas toxins for decades and are expensive and environmentally devastating to produce & use. Plus, it means more money in the pocket of the oil cartels who are ruining our world. Why support that cycle of ecological destruction & economic disparity & ruin your health to boot? It's a Lose-Lose proposition.
kingofthebrittains 7 months ago
why not use papercrete, instead of urathane?
less toxic, and cheaper, w/all the strength and insulation.
fatpius 2 years ago
@fatpius
Actually the foam is water based I should have made note of that.
Nothing is imperable like foam even water based
buck3647 2 years ago
What's the point of using TOXIC, Petroleum Intensive materials to build your house in the age of Peak Oil? Search Cal-Earth and check out their all natural domes made with mainly DIRT and simpler tools. If you can't breathe it, do you really wanna LIVE in it?
Dirt don't Hurt!
kingofthebrittains 2 years ago 36
i totally agree with you
tomrimxx 2 years ago
I second this notion
Amerimokkka 2 years ago
@kingofthebrittains yay for cal-earth, truly environmentally safe and healthy living, cheaper, too ;)
TheOneAndOnlyMichel 1 year ago
@kingofthebrittains who wants to hear all the mumbo jumbo bullshit that the "guru" of cal-earth has to shit from his mouth? half of his vids are wasted on preaching. NO THX !!! PASS ~!!!
jedirifleman 10 months ago
@jedirifleman I'm sorry you feel so "damaged" by someone else's opinions. I'd rather listen to logic & ignore the guys' religious views than live in a house made of toxic goop that puts more money in exxon's pocket. Stryo is made of petroleum which is not only toxic, but going the way of the dodo. Oil prices are going nowhere but up, so this kind of s house will become more & more expensive. Dirt is still free, until the banksters and plutocrats find a way to charge for it.
kingofthebrittains 10 months ago
@kingofthebrittains they already charge for it, its called a mortgage !
astrialkil 7 months ago
@kingofthebrittains it isn't toxic to breathe after it cures hippie. Secondly, we need to be exploring alternatives to petroleum based plastics such as those derived from soybean, and hemp seed oil. Dirt? Are you serious? Now thats the future. "Hey guys, come check out my dirt house." It's called a berm home. Why would you go to the trouble of constructing a dome home, if you're going to make it out of dirt. That totally defeats the purpose.
stehenallein 9 months ago
@stehenallein Can you Prove that is true? No. Why? B/C it's not been tested long term. Like Asbestos, lead, Melamine, and a million other "Safe" products. Dirt is the reason you're here. Dirt is LIFE. The oldest, most time tested structures on Earth are made form earth. There are sod & strawbale houses in the Midwest (Tornado Alley) & cob houses in England that have survived Hundreds of years. Fact check before you spout off &Google "Net Energy" b4 you tout alternative plastics as panaceas.
kingofthebrittains 9 months ago 2
@kingofthebrittains Dome homes built from "toxic" materials can withstand exterem weather conditions. I don't believe that a dirt dome is going to withstand an f5 tornado.
stehenallein 9 months ago
@kingofthebrittains
What do you think cement is made of? When the finished product is dry it has no ill effects. The earthbag is a very good way to use lots of labor and low cost but still has a long way to go.
elvieken 6 months ago
@elvieken Cement is made of heated, powdered rock & i know it takes a lot of energy to make, but consider that an earthbag home only uses 5% cement in the earth mix and can be made without cement at all. The reason Cal-Earth uses it is to meet Cali's stringent seismic codes. People have been making adobe w/out cement for millenia, in ancient Egypt for example. Plus, do you KNOW that this stuff is non toxic, or did some industry shill pass that info along? Worse yet, it supports Big Oil.
kingofthebrittains 6 months ago
Looks like a great abode! do you have to wear breathing aps to enter it after its built?
MrFreedomrequired 2 years ago
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phialen 2 years ago
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phialen 2 years ago
Jan. 23, 2010
There is a process (see YouTube) encorporating foam into concrete which creates comparatively lightweight molded blocks, slabs etc.
The associated machinery is portable.
Could such foamed concrete be created
from pulverizing the rubble? If so slabs
could be pored and used first as tent and
shelter floors then as building components.
infoshare2010 2 years ago
My belief is that using the rubble as a mold place rebar and cover pile run steel start mixing mud and covering the grid of steel.
Now once the created vaulted arch has cured the rubble base can be hauled or rubble down to road base
Once the debris has been remove a empty monolithic concrete shell remains that partitions and such are in installed.
This process would cut in half the timeof rebuilding
My 2 cents
buck3647 2 years ago
A monolithic concrete structure has no bearing walls. The steel cage that the concrete covers will flex and perhaps concrete will break and crack but the steel cage will remain NOT Collapse,
envision an upside down swimming pool .
These structures can be designed in a variety of shapes the dome being the strongest. Germany used reinforced concrete for bunkers at Normandy, they are still there after many attempts to bomb them.
buck3647 2 years ago
Do you think the relief efforts in Haiti will consider monolithic concrete domes or aluminium mobile homes?
buck3647 2 years ago
DOME PIECE FOR HOME PEACE!!WORD!!!
moshhon 2 years ago
i will have my own someday soon! cheers : ]
722erodz 2 years ago
It's kind of like an earth ship. Just cheaper
Limeisback2012 2 years ago
Bless you..... lol
mrfoltz 2 years ago