This musical masterpiece was used prior to Game 1 of the 1992 NLCS between the Pirates and Braves, and also used during the narration of Pat Summerall during the 1993 NFC Divisional playoff game between the Giants and 49ers. Great stuff to get you excited for a big sports event for sure!
When John Williams leaves this world, he will be truly be missed, because he will be leaving us without one of the best musical composers past, present and even future. By hands down, he's one of the best movie music composers we have, there are a few there but he's number one to me and there will never be anyone who can replace him.
The guy who wrote this song also wrote the songs for Star Wars, Pirates of the Carraibean (URG DON'T KNOW HOW TOO SPELL THAT!), Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, and all the other really cool famous movies! P.S I get too play this in band and I play the clarinet so I get the really cool part! :D
@mrjimmyos Well I hate the childish gay themes that has no badass factor, it's just kiddie you know. I hate that about John Williams. Ever heard the E.T. soundtrack? Music like that makes me cringe.
@mrjimmyos Hmm, I always hated the Bourne movies. They didn't work on a single level with me, so I didn't really take notice of the score either at the time. John Powell is one of my favourite composers of all time though and there are so many of his scores that I love!
@mrjimmyos Taxi Ride on the bourne soundtrack? I just listened to it, doesn't seem to me as anything especially good, at least not if you compare it to other John Powell soundtracks.
@mrjimmyos When I listen to movie music I often jump to the parts I want to hear the most. There's often just so much ambience and noise in soundtrack sounds until you get to the orgasmic melodies. Ofcourse there are plenty exceptions that are full perfect songs, but there are also great songs, some by John Williams especially, who just sounds like a car crash until it finally finds a melody.
@mrjimmyos Only in success and popularity. He is a rather soulless composer. He rips off classical themes with more blatancy than I have seen from any other movie composer. John Williams is the most overrated movie composer of all time. I usually refer to him as "Spielberg's little whore". I don't deny that he has composed a few fine melodies that I enjoy listening to but these are few and far in between. Most of the stuff he composes I find embarassing to listen to.
@mrjimmyos I just don't have any respect for him. He gets waaaay too much credit. Spielberg and George Lucas also gets way too much credit. Although Lucas is a lot more terrible than Spielberg, even when Spielberg puked out failures like Indiana Jones 4.
@mrjimmyos I've played the beginning. Up until you see a cool guy get shot in the head in a basement, and then there's an asshole friend of an old guy with glasses, and then you kill the old guy...
@WolfySnackrib666 so just because Spielberg and Williams are friend its bad? Spielberg likes Zimmer also, Alfred Hitchcock used Bernard Herrman for the most of his films (except for family plot which John Williams did), Irwin Allen used John Williams twice, the list goes on, just because a director likes a certain composer, does not necessarily mean its a bad thing
@OSTMixingAlliance Not an excuse, John Williams is a poor composer because he doesn't manage to make most of his music something that you can enjoy listening to on its own, which separates him from other great composers like Jerry Goldsmith, John Powell, Ennio Morricone.
@WolfySnackrib666 I enjoy his music on its own from the film, I admit there are scores of his I do not enjoy ( ET, CEOT3K, IJ4 and a few others) but others I do, like Superman: The Movie for example, almost every note is memorable in someway plus you have to listen to the complete scores to fully receive the full effect, much like Howard Shores LOTR scores, the OST's sound hacked up, compared to the CR's.
@OSTMixingAlliance Hmm, sort of a slow and boring song. Would work as background music for studying, but nothing I'd want to concentrate on and listen closely to.
Would you listen all day to all the noisy annoying action scenes that Williams sometimes composes? I mean the ones that have no melody, it's just a bunch of annoying noise really.
@WolfySnackrib666 its not a song, its a track or a cue, and yes I could listen to his action music all day, Desert Chase, The Jungle Chase (the FULL 9 minute version, not the cutdown version on album), Parade of The Slave Children, The Big Rescue/Helicopter Sequence, Into The Kitchen (Raptor Attack), March Past The Kitchen Utensils ( T-Rex Rescue part 1), Chasing Rockets, and Sonic Greeting/To The Lair
@OSTMixingAlliance Hey that's not fair. I said the songs that just sound like noise. A lot of the ones that you just mentioned happen to have really pretty melodies. Have you heard Rescuing Sarah from Jurassic Park 2? The ending of that track is so fucking beautiful. So I admit, he is capable of great melodies when he gives it a go, but he doesn't seem to always give 100 %. The worst part is when he makes childish music that is embarassing to hear, like E.T.
@WolfySnackrib666 I thought ET was good, not his best by any means, it fit the film better then what Zimmer could have done (IMO) thought it may not have been a good listening experience away from it, but the opening track (the suspense cue) is pretty creepy with that rubbed gong effect, my least favorite score, is Black Sunday, all the samples I heard turned me away from it in 16 seconds in.
BTW have you heard his score for Images? its very atonal (meaning dissonant) but its pretty creepy (atleast the sample I heard) not something for listening to at night.
@OSTMixingAlliance Well I'm not afraid of the dark or ghosts and I haven't had nightmares for many years so I think I can handle it. It's my eardrums I'm worried about.
@StarWarsFan786 After having studied movie music at the university, having a personal collection of 400 movie soundtracks as well as a lifetime since childhood of listening intently to the music in movies I don't think you're in any position of making the statement that I'm just an idiot who knows nothing about film music. John Williams is highly overrated. Fact.
@WolfySnackrib666 If you have studied movie music, then why do you still use stupid therms like 'song'? I think JW is someone who can make listenable music. I like music from Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard etc but only while i watch the film. You can listen to scores that JW composes anytime.
@StarWarsFan786 You wanna know why I call them song? Because that's the only way 'normal' people will agree to listen to tracks off of original scores. In my experience, if you call it a song, then they will have more open minded ears. So, fuck me but I am way too used to calling it songs these days. Like I've said, JW has occassional decent melodies here and there, far and few inbetween. There's often a lot of ruckus going on in action scenes. His score for Minority Report was mostly a mess...
@FishfilmInc Melody, chords, instruments, harmony, creativity, originality, those tend to be important to me. But since you are of a different opinion I bet you just fucking loooove hip hop and rap huh? If those can be considered musical genres...
@WolfySnackrib666 Well I DO listen to hip-hopish stuff when I have to, I prefer to listen to film scores (Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, Silvestri etc.) and I tend to prefer textures, colors and tangibility.
@FishfilmInc Remember that Nicholas Hooper faggot who took over for John Williams as Harry Potter composer? He is one of the worst composers I've ever heard. He totally failed at everything.
At least he kept Headwig's Theme clearly audible in every opening scene. Not like that other guy. What's his name the guy from Twilight. Oh, that's right, Alexandre Desplat! Talk about fail. HP is not HP with out Headwig's Theme. It's only at part 2 of The Deathly Hallows, did Desplat actually learn his lesson ad bring the theme back where it belongs... After the opening credits and throughout and finally at the last 15min. did they bring back 2 tracks from the first HP movie.
@FTS57 Nicholas Hooper is possibly the worst movie composer I know of though. I mean look at how he fucked up the fifth harry potter movie. Like Sirius death, that music was fucking bland. It had no emotion. You know once I hooked some strings up to my synth and pressed random keys, it sounded EXACTLY like Sirius death scene. Was that fag even trying?! Also, his gayness factor of happy music is worse than John Williams.
@WolfySnackrib666 "Like I've said, JW has occassional decent melodies here and there, far and few inbetween."
Having a good tune isn't always that important, it's how you implement it into the score, and develop it. Otherwise, Bernard Herrmann would be a deemed lousy film composer.
What about Close Encounters, Jurassic Park, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, ET, Schindler's List? All chock full of instantly recognisable melodies, plus terrific non-thematic underscore .
@RogueRotting360 You can say that about anything. Inception? The green mile? Forrest Gump? A great movie? You gotta be kidding.
I bet you don't think much of Hans Zimmer either. Sure he doesn't outdo himself on every score but his greatest masterpieces squish John Williams like a bug in terms of melodic, harmonious + raw brutality. Even Hans Zimmer has admitted though that John Powell is more talented than he is and I thought so myself even before reading he said that. How to train your dragon.
@WolfySnackrib666 "Inception? The green mile? Forrest Gump? A great movie? You gotta be kidding."
Yep. Crap films. Hilariously overrated on the Internets.
"His greatest masterpieces squish John Williams like a bug in terms of melodic, harmonious + raw brutality."
Er, it it's the same banal power anthem chord progressions, 18th century harmony language, and And yeah, Zimmer's right, Powell is more talented than hell, but barely.
RCP is the worst thing that's ever happened to film scoring.
@WolfySnackrib666 By "raw brutality", you just mean cliched overdubbed hits on taiko drums, toms and bass drum, plus digitally amping up the orchestra? Any hack do that shit. Case in point with RCP, and what it's done to the industry. Just produce a bunch of clones with no little to no musical expertise, all sounding the same.
Williams is a master of dozens of idioms (to jazz, pop, avant garde, neo-romantic, minimalist, impressionist, Asian etc...), and understands something called subtlety.
@RogueRotting360 It's not like John Williams is original. You're a hypocrite for attacking modern composers and protecting the world's most overrated old fart. And there seriously isn't any subtlety in John Williams scores for the more well known movies. Ever seen Indiana Jones 2? Yeah, keep talking about subtlety on that one...
If we're gonna be objective here, you know who would destroy Hans Zimmer and annihilate Williams? Jerry Goldsmith, Ennio Morricone, Basil Poledouris.
@WolfySnackrib666 Nah, Basil Poledouris ain't got shit on Williams. Decent scores for Robocop, Hunt For Red October, Conan, Starship Troopers, but compared to Williams, he's a lightweight - just like Zimmer.
Bernard Herrmann stands above all of them, followed by Goldsmith, North, Williams, Barry, Morricone, Steiner, Rozsa etc...
"Ever seen Indiana Jones 2?"
You want subtle, brilliant orchestrated underscore? "Check out Indy Negotiates," "Indy and the Villagers" and "The Secret Passage."
@RogueRotting360 Bernard Herrmann rules, great composer, no question, even if he did make an ass of himself once when he defied Hitchcock and composed music for a scene meant to have no music, when they were killing a guy slowly.
Name a single soundtrack by Williams that compares with how much of a pleasure to the ears it is to listen through Basil Poledouris soundtrack for Conan.
@WolfySnackrib666 "Name a single soundtrack by Williams that compares with how much of a pleasure to the ears it is to listen through Basil Poledouris soundtrack for Conan."
Raiders of the Lost Ark in first place. I could also throw in Jurassic Park, E.T., Close Encounters, and Superman.
@RogueRotting360 E.T.? Are you fucking kidding me? What kind of faggot thinks it's more of a pleasure to listen to it than Conan? Jurassic Park has about three melodies in it that are good. Some ambience is fun for setting tension but it's not at all pure enjoyment to listen to when you just want to focus on the beauty of music. Raiders has a number of moments but Conan is still better to listen to for the sake of the music itself. Superman is totally gay. Close encounters had just a little.
@WolfySnackrib666 ET ain't all mushy sentiment. There's lots of great action, suspense and horror cues throughout. "Jurassic Park has about 3 melodies that are good" More than three. You got the island fanfare, the slow hymn, Denis Steals the Embryos, the carnivore motif etc.
I got no problem with Close Encounters. I dig atonal music, so I don't skip any of those tracks.
What the fuck is gay about the Superman score? It's got some of the most fuck yeah, anthemic shit ever written.
@RogueRotting360 I saw the movie Close Encounters for the first time a few days ago and I admit that John Williams wasn't what was wrong with that movie. It was all Spielbergs pederastic mess of alien fetishes. God damn I haven't seen such a lame movie in years! It actually beat Narnia. Fuck what a terrible and unbearable movie to watch...
The Superman fanfare is "fuck yeah"? It's gay. Part of it is kind of embarassing to listen to, and it seems way too cliché, too similar to other Williams's.
@WolfySnackrib666 Couldn't disagree agree with you re: Close Encounters. It's in my top three Spielbergs, along with A.I. and either E.T. or Munich. The film really isn't about aliens, even though it's sci-fiction. I won't into now, but let's just agree to disagree, alright?
About Superman. It's only cliched in hindsight, 33 years later. And not because of other Williams scores, but that fact that dozens of lesser composers have ripped it off. Silvestri, Arnold, Powell, Horner etc.
@WolfySnackrib666 Uh, no. They're all forgettable. Pretty? Who wants a "pretty" Superhero theme? That's the problem with modern film scores, they lack grit. Sound too damn processed and pussified.
@RogueRotting360 The superman fanfare is very forgettable to me. It's bland and tasteless, plus Superman is the most boring super hero of all time. Modern movies are pussified? Well what the fuck do you call music by John Williams?! He is incapable of composing something that sounds dirty and badass. If you think that John Williams is badass, then you have a serious lack of standards when it comes to badassery. Have you got a hard on for that jew or what?
@WolfySnackrib666 Williams is incapable of badassery? Listen to any of a number of the tracks from The Lost World; The Commandos Arrive, second half of the Commando Raid; and Building The Bomb from Black Sunday; the Jaws theme in all its variations; The 1960's: The Turbulent Years from Nixon; Anakin's Dark Deeds from ROTS; Martin Vs Tavington from The Patriot; Denis Steals the Embryos from JP; Main Title from Earthquake and Friends And Enemies from the Eiger Sanction etc...
@RogueRotting360 And what about the soundtracks of Hans Zimmer and John Powell? You were quick enough to bash them. What about the Gladiator battle themes? What about How to train your dragon? What about Pirates of the caribbean?
@WolfySnackrib666 The Gladiator battle themes? Just ripped off Holst's Mars and did his did gay power anthem shit. Pirates of the Caribbean? Doesn't even deserve to be played by an orchestra. How to Train Your Dragon? It's epic, but lacks heart and soul. E.T. did it better nearly 3 decades ago.
@RogueRotting360 You're digging yourself deeper into a hole. There's a fucklot of classical rip offs among John Williams scores too. You're just fanatically John Williams religious. I don't think I'm interested in discussing this any further with you because I may be immature, but you're infantile.
@WolfySnackrib666 At least when Williams plagiarises Holst, Prokofiev or Hanson, he makes some effort to mould the material into his own idiom. They're not plain fucking obvious rips as with James Horner.
Even then I'm not a Williams fanboy, believe me. I take Hermann, Goldsmith, Barry over him any day. I just don't think he's the piss poor composer you're making him out to be..
@RogueRotting360 Who the hell are you trying to convince? You got some blind faith in John Williams. It is exceptionally obvious when he rips off the nutcracker in one of the tracks for Home Alone, and that is just one example out of many. Star Wars contains even more obvious rip offs. You're giving him far too much credit, give it up. You're exclusively defending John Williams while you go on bashing composers who plagiarise no more than he does.
@WolfySnackrib666 Could you point which pieces he has ripped off (which is not the same as being influenced by or giving a nod to) from the Nutcracker? If your point is that Williams has been influenced by other composers---Holst, Wagner, Messiaen, Debussy, Korngold, Stravinsky---my answer would be "so what?" Many composers have been directly influenced by their predecesors or contemporaries. Sounding similar or being inspired by is not the same as plagiarism. Music is full of imitation.
@darkprose watch?v=Pf0C5tzcQlg#t=3m25s - you call that influence? I call it stealing.
Oh and here's how he ripped off King's Row when he made the Star Wars main theme watch?v=V47enEvsafQ
Could you just stop defending this prick and admit that he's a slimey plagiarising douchebag no better than James Horner?
Pity I can't find the video I saw once that was like 10 minutes, showing countless of John Williams rip off examples. His rip offs tend to be even more obvious than James Horner's.
I never understood why movie directors get showered with praise and cheers when they lift a shot, sequence, line, scene for any movie ever made but composers get called plagiarists, hacks, whatever when they lift stuff from classical music and other fellow composers.
@WolfySnackrib666 Of course their are dead spots, its because its written for film, so it has to fit what is on screen, this not classical music we are talking about here
@OSTMixingAlliance I also managed to downloaded the extended soundtrack, but there wasn't a lot of interesting soundtrack songs that wasn't already on the original incomplete one. So they really tastefully chose most of the best stuff.
@OSTMixingAlliance I noticed similarities as well with HTTYD in Rango. Listen to The track "Bats", at 4:08. Then compare to HTTYD, the track "Counter attack" at 2:21. Obvious rip there. Which part of what track from Rango did you find similar to HTTYD?
Personally I don't mind the rips and homages though, I love the Rango soundtrack.
@WolfySnackrib666 yeah, see thats the thing, the themes have to fit the FILM!! thats why its called a FILM SCORE!!, Listen to the soundtrack to The Towering Inferno for the hardcore factor
1:20 is so John Williams - you could stick the end of superman, star wars, indiana jones themes onto the end of this piece and it would more or less sound the same. He has such a great defined style.
I saw this soundtrack in a store once for 6 bucks...I should have bought it then, lol. I think I just might snag it for myself soon, I always liked the movie, and Williams is awsome! :)
This always reminds me of the music at the beginning of The Nightmare Before Christmas trailer. 3
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Missingatoxley 1 month ago
Really reminds me of Donkey Kong Country 2.. but that's awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if David Wise was inspired by this. Cool soundtrack~
Vianerd1 1 month ago
@Vianerd1 yeah mee too especially the part 0:21 to 0:26
Mennyparma 2 weeks ago
epic
paperman990 2 months ago
y su sentimiento es inmortal
GrayVevo 4 months ago
no ha habido mas grande que john williams ni lo va a ver en la música, sencillamente porque su magia es inalcanzable
GrayVevo 4 months ago
This musical masterpiece was used prior to Game 1 of the 1992 NLCS between the Pirates and Braves, and also used during the narration of Pat Summerall during the 1993 NFC Divisional playoff game between the Giants and 49ers. Great stuff to get you excited for a big sports event for sure!
gh990513 4 months ago
I guess we should stop listening to improv jazz cuz they "plagiarise" music all the time
mitchelllahm 5 months ago
this song makes me happy :)
ServantOfAllah0264 5 months ago
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4 people who disliked this were captain hook and his crew.
EternalDarkness316 5 months ago
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EternalDarkness316 5 months ago
People...please just shut up and listen to this amazing piece..it's disrespectful if all you do is argue...
blazer640036 6 months ago 2
When John Williams leaves this world, he will be truly be missed, because he will be leaving us without one of the best musical composers past, present and even future. By hands down, he's one of the best movie music composers we have, there are a few there but he's number one to me and there will never be anyone who can replace him.
EternalDarkness316 6 months ago
best part from 0:00 to 1:31
dommm56 6 months ago
@Zoetrope41 the movie was FANTASTIC!! big part of my childhood!!!
JTOKIPPER2008 7 months ago
Sounds very similar to Donkey Kong Country 2 title music
therelia 7 months ago
@therelia
This was first. 1991
SquareheadX 7 months ago
@therelia I think it's the other way around... :)
hcybtiw 7 months ago
john williams. just.. ah.
amethystXatmosphere 8 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Just Shut Up....Really, Just Shut Up
HandsSolo 8 months ago
Remids me of Star Wars soundtracks, is it the same orchestra?
BrandNewSongz 9 months ago
@BrandNewSongz same composer :) John Williams
usernameismyrealname 9 months ago
it sounda a bit like alice's theme
QueenBonesofdarkness 10 months ago
only downside: too short... need more!
Ulmaramlu 10 months ago
If there was a legal expanded version of this score, I would gladly buy ten copies.
JoelandtheBots 10 months ago
the opening to this song has been my ring tone for text messages for the past year, and i still love it!
aerosnowu2 11 months ago
Steven Spielberg with John Williams = Epic combination.
MajinVegeto89 1 year ago 5
@MajinVegeto89 Epic jew you mean?
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
4 people haven't been to Neverland ...
John Williams is Epic.
The13Films 1 year ago 32
@The13Films
or 4got about it
acts238111 7 months ago
4 people suck ass for not loving Peter Pan!
noobje91 1 year ago 2
bangerang banorang bangarang!!!???
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bangorang91 1 year ago
WILLIAMS FTW !!!!!!!!!!
silenscream2 1 year ago
thumbs up if you beat Hook on SNES or genesis
tjrookie11 1 year ago 2
PAN PAN PAN PAN XD
DeadlyNightShade60 1 year ago
HOOK FTW
silenscream2 1 year ago
"Tis true petah, time does fly....and so do you I see!" Hook FTW!!
poopsicle65 1 year ago
@Ilovetheoutsiders1 Pirates of the Caribbean is by Klaus Badelt and Hans Zimmer, not John Williams. Otherwise you are correct =)
Hisharu 1 year ago
The guy who wrote this song also wrote the songs for Star Wars, Pirates of the Carraibean (URG DON'T KNOW HOW TOO SPELL THAT!), Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, and all the other really cool famous movies! P.S I get too play this in band and I play the clarinet so I get the really cool part! :D
Ilovetheoutsiders1 1 year ago
@Ilovetheoutsiders1
Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt wrote Pirates of Carribeans no John Williams!! John Williams has a very different style from Hans Zimmer!
lunealy 1 year ago
its sooo "PIRATY" !
cutiecookie23 1 year ago
Gives me shivers every time.
Kalliedes 1 year ago 10
@Kalliedes Same, but I think its because I'm watching something I saw when i was a baby O_o
rbdzntsfrlk 7 months ago
Has it really been 3 days?
TiMeindert 1 year ago
Rufio: "You can fight, you can fly, and you can--"
Peter: *peter crows as all of the lost boys join in*
:D
blackbear1297 1 year ago 3
Bangarang!!!!!! xD
blackbear1297 1 year ago 2
sounds just like the title theme to Donkey Kong Country 2!
curtithird 1 year ago
....And you can CUCK- A-CUCK!!
kismet254 1 year ago
Rufio! Rufio! Ru-Fi-OOOOOOOOOOOOOh!
PredArtagnan 1 year ago 3
The first 15 seconds of this song kicks ass.
WolfySnackrib666 1 year ago 4
@WolfySnackrib666 As do the ensuing 76 seconds ;)
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos Well I hate the childish gay themes that has no badass factor, it's just kiddie you know. I hate that about John Williams. Ever heard the E.T. soundtrack? Music like that makes me cringe.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 If only you heard it like I do, oh well
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos Dude, you need to listen to How to train your Dragon soundtrack.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 On it now!
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos Wonderfull soundtrack, isn't it? John Powell who composed it is a genious.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 He did a damn good job on the Bourne Films
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos Hmm, I always hated the Bourne movies. They didn't work on a single level with me, so I didn't really take notice of the score either at the time. John Powell is one of my favourite composers of all time though and there are so many of his scores that I love!
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Checkout 'Taxi Ride' ;)
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos Taxi Ride on the bourne soundtrack? I just listened to it, doesn't seem to me as anything especially good, at least not if you compare it to other John Powell soundtracks.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Ah, I liked that suspense myself
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos watch?v=-roNWVvNUwY#t=2m39s
Now this is true John Powell music, especially 3:06 - 3:24
If that doesn't get your panties wet, I don't know what will.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 That is good :D
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos I have hundreds of sweet spots ilke that throughout my accumelation of over 300 soundtracks, so imagine how much in musical heaven I am.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Awesome :D I have a playlist for it on itunes, my biggest one too
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos When I listen to movie music I often jump to the parts I want to hear the most. There's often just so much ambience and noise in soundtrack sounds until you get to the orgasmic melodies. Ofcourse there are plenty exceptions that are full perfect songs, but there are also great songs, some by John Williams especially, who just sounds like a car crash until it finally finds a melody.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Nahhh, he's one of the all time greatest
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos Only in success and popularity. He is a rather soulless composer. He rips off classical themes with more blatancy than I have seen from any other movie composer. John Williams is the most overrated movie composer of all time. I usually refer to him as "Spielberg's little whore". I don't deny that he has composed a few fine melodies that I enjoy listening to but these are few and far in between. Most of the stuff he composes I find embarassing to listen to.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 :/
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos I just don't have any respect for him. He gets waaaay too much credit. Spielberg and George Lucas also gets way too much credit. Although Lucas is a lot more terrible than Spielberg, even when Spielberg puked out failures like Indiana Jones 4.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Happens all the time
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos They fall out of the skies like flies. Government knows all about them, right Mac?
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Reptilian death ray, it's gotta be!
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos Oooh what's that?
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Somebody hasn't played GTA4 heheh
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos I've played the beginning. Up until you see a cool guy get shot in the head in a basement, and then there's an asshole friend of an old guy with glasses, and then you kill the old guy...
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Err, ah, I don't remember it like that :/
mrjimmyos 10 months ago
@mrjimmyos oh.
WolfySnackrib666 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 most composers rip off themes
FishfilmInc 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 so just because Spielberg and Williams are friend its bad? Spielberg likes Zimmer also, Alfred Hitchcock used Bernard Herrman for the most of his films (except for family plot which John Williams did), Irwin Allen used John Williams twice, the list goes on, just because a director likes a certain composer, does not necessarily mean its a bad thing
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
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OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance Not an excuse, John Williams is a poor composer because he doesn't manage to make most of his music something that you can enjoy listening to on its own, which separates him from other great composers like Jerry Goldsmith, John Powell, Ennio Morricone.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 I enjoy his music on its own from the film, I admit there are scores of his I do not enjoy ( ET, CEOT3K, IJ4 and a few others) but others I do, like Superman: The Movie for example, almost every note is memorable in someway plus you have to listen to the complete scores to fully receive the full effect, much like Howard Shores LOTR scores, the OST's sound hacked up, compared to the CR's.
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Listen to anything too much and it bores you, I could listen to this all day: watch?v=9INHPNnEEWo
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance Hmm, sort of a slow and boring song. Would work as background music for studying, but nothing I'd want to concentrate on and listen closely to.
Would you listen all day to all the noisy annoying action scenes that Williams sometimes composes? I mean the ones that have no melody, it's just a bunch of annoying noise really.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 its not a song, its a track or a cue, and yes I could listen to his action music all day, Desert Chase, The Jungle Chase (the FULL 9 minute version, not the cutdown version on album), Parade of The Slave Children, The Big Rescue/Helicopter Sequence, Into The Kitchen (Raptor Attack), March Past The Kitchen Utensils ( T-Rex Rescue part 1), Chasing Rockets, and Sonic Greeting/To The Lair
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance Hey that's not fair. I said the songs that just sound like noise. A lot of the ones that you just mentioned happen to have really pretty melodies. Have you heard Rescuing Sarah from Jurassic Park 2? The ending of that track is so fucking beautiful. So I admit, he is capable of great melodies when he gives it a go, but he doesn't seem to always give 100 %. The worst part is when he makes childish music that is embarassing to hear, like E.T.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 I thought ET was good, not his best by any means, it fit the film better then what Zimmer could have done (IMO) thought it may not have been a good listening experience away from it, but the opening track (the suspense cue) is pretty creepy with that rubbed gong effect, my least favorite score, is Black Sunday, all the samples I heard turned me away from it in 16 seconds in.
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
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BTW have you heard his score for Images? its very atonal (meaning dissonant) but its pretty creepy (atleast the sample I heard) not something for listening to at night.
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance Well I'm not afraid of the dark or ghosts and I haven't had nightmares for many years so I think I can handle it. It's my eardrums I'm worried about.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance Well hey, the images intro theme ain't bad.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 THE MOVIE IS MADE FOR KIDS! Nothing JW composes sounds like just noise! You're just an idiot who knows nothing about film music.
StarWarsFan786 7 months ago
@StarWarsFan786 After having studied movie music at the university, having a personal collection of 400 movie soundtracks as well as a lifetime since childhood of listening intently to the music in movies I don't think you're in any position of making the statement that I'm just an idiot who knows nothing about film music. John Williams is highly overrated. Fact.
WolfySnackrib666 7 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 You are a stupid idiot. Fact.
StarWarsFan786 7 months ago
@StarWarsFan786 Says the mentally handicapped child...
WolfySnackrib666 7 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 If you have studied movie music, then why do you still use stupid therms like 'song'? I think JW is someone who can make listenable music. I like music from Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard etc but only while i watch the film. You can listen to scores that JW composes anytime.
StarWarsFan786 7 months ago
@StarWarsFan786 You wanna know why I call them song? Because that's the only way 'normal' people will agree to listen to tracks off of original scores. In my experience, if you call it a song, then they will have more open minded ears. So, fuck me but I am way too used to calling it songs these days. Like I've said, JW has occassional decent melodies here and there, far and few inbetween. There's often a lot of ruckus going on in action scenes. His score for Minority Report was mostly a mess...
WolfySnackrib666 7 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 You do know that melody is not the only iimportant thing in music right?
FishfilmInc 6 months ago
@FishfilmInc Melody, chords, instruments, harmony, creativity, originality, those tend to be important to me. But since you are of a different opinion I bet you just fucking loooove hip hop and rap huh? If those can be considered musical genres...
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Well I DO listen to hip-hopish stuff when I have to, I prefer to listen to film scores (Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, Silvestri etc.) and I tend to prefer textures, colors and tangibility.
FishfilmInc 6 months ago
@FishfilmInc Remember that Nicholas Hooper faggot who took over for John Williams as Harry Potter composer? He is one of the worst composers I've ever heard. He totally failed at everything.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
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At least he kept Headwig's Theme clearly audible in every opening scene. Not like that other guy. What's his name the guy from Twilight. Oh, that's right, Alexandre Desplat! Talk about fail. HP is not HP with out Headwig's Theme. It's only at part 2 of The Deathly Hallows, did Desplat actually learn his lesson ad bring the theme back where it belongs... After the opening credits and throughout and finally at the last 15min. did they bring back 2 tracks from the first HP movie.
FTS57 4 months ago
@FTS57 Nicholas Hooper is possibly the worst movie composer I know of though. I mean look at how he fucked up the fifth harry potter movie. Like Sirius death, that music was fucking bland. It had no emotion. You know once I hooked some strings up to my synth and pressed random keys, it sounded EXACTLY like Sirius death scene. Was that fag even trying?! Also, his gayness factor of happy music is worse than John Williams.
WolfySnackrib666 4 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Melody's overrated. In nearly all tonal music, it's harmony that takes the driver's seat. The melody outlines it.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 "Like I've said, JW has occassional decent melodies here and there, far and few inbetween."
Having a good tune isn't always that important, it's how you implement it into the score, and develop it. Otherwise, Bernard Herrmann would be a deemed lousy film composer.
What about Close Encounters, Jurassic Park, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, ET, Schindler's List? All chock full of instantly recognisable melodies, plus terrific non-thematic underscore .
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
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@WolfySnackrib666 "The worst part is when he makes childish music that is embarassing to hear, like E.T."
Yeah, coz it ain't dark n gritty like da Dark Knight and iNcepcion.
Stop taking shit so seriously.
"Well hey, the images intro theme ain't bad."
The entire score's great. Fucking avant garde masterpiece .
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 John Powell - a great composer? You got to be kidding.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 You can say that about anything. Inception? The green mile? Forrest Gump? A great movie? You gotta be kidding.
I bet you don't think much of Hans Zimmer either. Sure he doesn't outdo himself on every score but his greatest masterpieces squish John Williams like a bug in terms of melodic, harmonious + raw brutality. Even Hans Zimmer has admitted though that John Powell is more talented than he is and I thought so myself even before reading he said that. How to train your dragon.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 "Inception? The green mile? Forrest Gump? A great movie? You gotta be kidding."
Yep. Crap films. Hilariously overrated on the Internets.
"His greatest masterpieces squish John Williams like a bug in terms of melodic, harmonious + raw brutality."
Er, it it's the same banal power anthem chord progressions, 18th century harmony language, and And yeah, Zimmer's right, Powell is more talented than hell, but barely.
RCP is the worst thing that's ever happened to film scoring.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 By "raw brutality", you just mean cliched overdubbed hits on taiko drums, toms and bass drum, plus digitally amping up the orchestra? Any hack do that shit. Case in point with RCP, and what it's done to the industry. Just produce a bunch of clones with no little to no musical expertise, all sounding the same.
Williams is a master of dozens of idioms (to jazz, pop, avant garde, neo-romantic, minimalist, impressionist, Asian etc...), and understands something called subtlety.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 It's not like John Williams is original. You're a hypocrite for attacking modern composers and protecting the world's most overrated old fart. And there seriously isn't any subtlety in John Williams scores for the more well known movies. Ever seen Indiana Jones 2? Yeah, keep talking about subtlety on that one...
If we're gonna be objective here, you know who would destroy Hans Zimmer and annihilate Williams? Jerry Goldsmith, Ennio Morricone, Basil Poledouris.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Nah, Basil Poledouris ain't got shit on Williams. Decent scores for Robocop, Hunt For Red October, Conan, Starship Troopers, but compared to Williams, he's a lightweight - just like Zimmer.
Bernard Herrmann stands above all of them, followed by Goldsmith, North, Williams, Barry, Morricone, Steiner, Rozsa etc...
"Ever seen Indiana Jones 2?"
You want subtle, brilliant orchestrated underscore? "Check out Indy Negotiates," "Indy and the Villagers" and "The Secret Passage."
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 Bernard Herrmann rules, great composer, no question, even if he did make an ass of himself once when he defied Hitchcock and composed music for a scene meant to have no music, when they were killing a guy slowly.
Name a single soundtrack by Williams that compares with how much of a pleasure to the ears it is to listen through Basil Poledouris soundtrack for Conan.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 "Name a single soundtrack by Williams that compares with how much of a pleasure to the ears it is to listen through Basil Poledouris soundtrack for Conan."
Raiders of the Lost Ark in first place. I could also throw in Jurassic Park, E.T., Close Encounters, and Superman.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 E.T.? Are you fucking kidding me? What kind of faggot thinks it's more of a pleasure to listen to it than Conan? Jurassic Park has about three melodies in it that are good. Some ambience is fun for setting tension but it's not at all pure enjoyment to listen to when you just want to focus on the beauty of music. Raiders has a number of moments but Conan is still better to listen to for the sake of the music itself. Superman is totally gay. Close encounters had just a little.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 ET ain't all mushy sentiment. There's lots of great action, suspense and horror cues throughout. "Jurassic Park has about 3 melodies that are good" More than three. You got the island fanfare, the slow hymn, Denis Steals the Embryos, the carnivore motif etc.
I got no problem with Close Encounters. I dig atonal music, so I don't skip any of those tracks.
What the fuck is gay about the Superman score? It's got some of the most fuck yeah, anthemic shit ever written.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 I saw the movie Close Encounters for the first time a few days ago and I admit that John Williams wasn't what was wrong with that movie. It was all Spielbergs pederastic mess of alien fetishes. God damn I haven't seen such a lame movie in years! It actually beat Narnia. Fuck what a terrible and unbearable movie to watch...
The Superman fanfare is "fuck yeah"? It's gay. Part of it is kind of embarassing to listen to, and it seems way too cliché, too similar to other Williams's.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Couldn't disagree agree with you re: Close Encounters. It's in my top three Spielbergs, along with A.I. and either E.T. or Munich. The film really isn't about aliens, even though it's sci-fiction. I won't into now, but let's just agree to disagree, alright?
About Superman. It's only cliched in hindsight, 33 years later. And not because of other Williams scores, but that fact that dozens of lesser composers have ripped it off. Silvestri, Arnold, Powell, Horner etc.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 Well the funny thing is that their so called rip offs are way more enjoyable and pretty than Williams clunky fanfare.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Uh, no. They're all forgettable. Pretty? Who wants a "pretty" Superhero theme? That's the problem with modern film scores, they lack grit. Sound too damn processed and pussified.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 The superman fanfare is very forgettable to me. It's bland and tasteless, plus Superman is the most boring super hero of all time. Modern movies are pussified? Well what the fuck do you call music by John Williams?! He is incapable of composing something that sounds dirty and badass. If you think that John Williams is badass, then you have a serious lack of standards when it comes to badassery. Have you got a hard on for that jew or what?
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Williams ain't t Jewish. Goldsmith and Herrmann were, though I don't see how that matters.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Williams is incapable of badassery? Listen to any of a number of the tracks from The Lost World; The Commandos Arrive, second half of the Commando Raid; and Building The Bomb from Black Sunday; the Jaws theme in all its variations; The 1960's: The Turbulent Years from Nixon; Anakin's Dark Deeds from ROTS; Martin Vs Tavington from The Patriot; Denis Steals the Embryos from JP; Main Title from Earthquake and Friends And Enemies from the Eiger Sanction etc...
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 And what about the soundtracks of Hans Zimmer and John Powell? You were quick enough to bash them. What about the Gladiator battle themes? What about How to train your dragon? What about Pirates of the caribbean?
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 The Gladiator battle themes? Just ripped off Holst's Mars and did his did gay power anthem shit. Pirates of the Caribbean? Doesn't even deserve to be played by an orchestra. How to Train Your Dragon? It's epic, but lacks heart and soul. E.T. did it better nearly 3 decades ago.
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 You're digging yourself deeper into a hole. There's a fucklot of classical rip offs among John Williams scores too. You're just fanatically John Williams religious. I don't think I'm interested in discussing this any further with you because I may be immature, but you're infantile.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 At least when Williams plagiarises Holst, Prokofiev or Hanson, he makes some effort to mould the material into his own idiom. They're not plain fucking obvious rips as with James Horner.
Even then I'm not a Williams fanboy, believe me. I take Hermann, Goldsmith, Barry over him any day. I just don't think he's the piss poor composer you're making him out to be..
RogueRotting360 6 months ago
@RogueRotting360 Who the hell are you trying to convince? You got some blind faith in John Williams. It is exceptionally obvious when he rips off the nutcracker in one of the tracks for Home Alone, and that is just one example out of many. Star Wars contains even more obvious rip offs. You're giving him far too much credit, give it up. You're exclusively defending John Williams while you go on bashing composers who plagiarise no more than he does.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 Could you point which pieces he has ripped off (which is not the same as being influenced by or giving a nod to) from the Nutcracker? If your point is that Williams has been influenced by other composers---Holst, Wagner, Messiaen, Debussy, Korngold, Stravinsky---my answer would be "so what?" Many composers have been directly influenced by their predecesors or contemporaries. Sounding similar or being inspired by is not the same as plagiarism. Music is full of imitation.
darkprose 6 months ago
@darkprose watch?v=Pf0C5tzcQlg#t=3m25s - you call that influence? I call it stealing.
Oh and here's how he ripped off King's Row when he made the Star Wars main theme watch?v=V47enEvsafQ
Could you just stop defending this prick and admit that he's a slimey plagiarising douchebag no better than James Horner?
Pity I can't find the video I saw once that was like 10 minutes, showing countless of John Williams rip off examples. His rip offs tend to be even more obvious than James Horner's.
WolfySnackrib666 6 months ago
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I never understood why movie directors get showered with praise and cheers when they lift a shot, sequence, line, scene for any movie ever made but composers get called plagiarists, hacks, whatever when they lift stuff from classical music and other fellow composers.
ShadowAlex 6 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 so how about making a video like this? alot of people find it for sure very helpful.
stamstuff 4 months ago
@stamstuff I told you, there was a video that I've been trying to find again but for the life of me, I can't find it. Where the hell did it go?
WolfySnackrib666 4 months ago
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@WolfySnackrib666 maybe this?
watch?v=b9IV5u9iwuQ
and if its not the one, lets make one.
stamstuff 4 months ago
@stamstuff maybe this?
watch?v=b9IV5u9iwuQ
and if its not the one, lets make one.
stamstuff 4 months ago
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@WolfySnackrib666 Of course their are dead spots, its because its written for film, so it has to fit what is on screen, this not classical music we are talking about here
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 the action cues are good, the ambience is a tad boring, unlike Chicken Run
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 I have the complete score for HTTYD, its got music thats not on the official album
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance I also managed to downloaded the extended soundtrack, but there wasn't a lot of interesting soundtrack songs that wasn't already on the original incomplete one. So they really tastefully chose most of the best stuff.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 yeah, Chicken Run is one of my Powell holy grails there are some good cues missing
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 The COMPLETE chicken run is one of my holy grails i should say
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance So is the Krull soundtrack.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 did you hear that Elliot Goldenthal's Batman Forever is getting a release?
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 I just listened to a bit of Hans Zimmer's rango...and he ripped off the Flying theme from HTTYD for it
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
@OSTMixingAlliance I noticed similarities as well with HTTYD in Rango. Listen to The track "Bats", at 4:08. Then compare to HTTYD, the track "Counter attack" at 2:21. Obvious rip there. Which part of what track from Rango did you find similar to HTTYD?
Personally I don't mind the rips and homages though, I love the Rango soundtrack.
WolfySnackrib666 9 months ago
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@WolfySnackrib666 wow... this music is awesome.. you need to stfu
zackademics 10 months ago
@WolfySnackrib666 yeah, see thats the thing, the themes have to fit the FILM!! thats why its called a FILM SCORE!!, Listen to the soundtrack to The Towering Inferno for the hardcore factor
OSTMixingAlliance 9 months ago
One of Robin Williams' best movies. Such a good sound track.
dynamicwolf 1 year ago
(Captain Hook analyses Peter Banning)
Hook: "Smee, who is this impostor?"
Smee: "Peter-flyin'-flockin'-Pan!"
I always thought Smee said "Peter-flyin'-fuckin'-Pan!"
s3ct4u 1 year ago
@s3ct4u rofl
blackbear1297 1 year ago
I can FLYYYYEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! (crash) ow...
jasonthemauler 1 year ago 4
1:20 is so John Williams - you could stick the end of superman, star wars, indiana jones themes onto the end of this piece and it would more or less sound the same. He has such a great defined style.
Moollii 1 year ago 2
Hook & David Jones vs
Sparrow & Pan!!!!!
Rise da Jolly Roger...the Pirates are on battle!
BlueAshes 1 year ago 2
@BlueAshes That would be the DEFENITION of epic.
bugsbunny7117 1 year ago
fuggin epik!
TheStealthX 1 year ago
la banda sonora de mi infancia ...
VK935 1 year ago
Williams's music is a hook i always bite happily :D
greendaysimpleplan18 1 year ago 2
PEEETEEERRRR
MURApk 2 years ago
I saw this soundtrack in a store once for 6 bucks...I should have bought it then, lol. I think I just might snag it for myself soon, I always liked the movie, and Williams is awsome! :)
LoyalPadme 2 years ago 2
im playing a song for band and its got this song, hedwigs theme, theme from et, and raiders march its so freaking awesome!!!
XxDASHREDDERxX 2 years ago 4
what is the song (Hook)?
aLexiia713 2 years ago
Classic!!!!! I find myself humming this all the time when I am just walking!! :)
PapagenoJuan 2 years ago
i love the brass in this song
SkyFoxCode 2 years ago 4
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This has Wagner written all over it.
CeruleanFilms 2 years ago
This has WILLIAMS written all over it!
Docwpd52 2 years ago 46
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I was just saying this sounds a LOT like an overture from a Wagner opera. I happen to know a thing or two about classical music.
CeruleanFilms 2 years ago