Jesus IS Jehovah. upper case LORD in the OT means Jehovah .Jehovah is the ONLY Saviour. Isa 43:11 JESUS is the Saviour Titus 2:13. Acts 2:21. Rom 10:13. with Joe 2:32. Speaking of Jesus fulfilling this prophecy. Mat 3:3. from Isa 40:3, Mal 3:1. Jehovah is the creator. Isa 44:24. Jesus is the Creator. John 1:3. Col 1:16. it is said of Jesus in John 12:36-41 that Isaiah the prophet saw his glory. see Isa 6:1-5.
it makes sence do deffend your beliefs, but the Jw beliefs are not right dude. filled with lies. JWs protect pedaphiles. That says alot about how much BS is in the religion. and christ did not write the bible, people did. so when you read your bible, your reading Man's word, not gods.
@Bloodygothicfreak so men wrote the bible, the first to the last written book was 1600 years how come it doesnt contradict itself, or why are the prophecies it speaks of so accurate?
The Jehovahs witness (allies Russelites) are a deceiving cult inspired by Satan, who change the truth of Jehovahs word for a lie and ignorantly condemn mankinds souls to an eternally conscious lake of fire. When they make one convert they make them twice the sons of hell they were before. The only thing the Russelites put first is their Watchtower Organization then Satan the god of this world
True, there have been those in times past who Predicted an "End" to the world, even announcing a Specific Date. Yet Nothing happened. The 'End' did Not come. They were Guilty of False Prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were GOD's Truths and the evidence that HE was using and guiding them.'' (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968)
That you regard Jesus, not the WT, as the foundation of your faith, is why you are now a Christian and not a JW.
Even if Russell did not CLAIM he was a prophet, that is IRRELEVANT. The test of a false prophet in Dt 18 is not CLAIMING to be a prophet but MAKING a false prediction in God's name.
And Russell made MANY false predictions, including:
"By 1914 the Lord will have FULL CONTROL .. and God's kingdom will TAKE THE PLACE of man's governments." ("Studies in the Scriptures," 1889, p.2:76).
When you got baptized, was it in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit or spirit directed organization? Doesn't it strike you a little strange that God suddenly doesn't need the Holy Spirit during baptism anymore? Or was that the governing body's call? Read Matthew 28:19,20 again, and see what you come up with.
The reason you said the faithful slave is because the society put more emphasis on them and the governing body than they do Christ. Your answer was truthful, but it's not what they want you to say to rest of the world when you're out in service.
common sense dismisses the story of noahs ark as a primitive myth and the idea of sacifical offerings and atonement are unworthy of a good god. some human beings need a saviour in their lives to feel worthy.
humankind has developed over millions of years and not the 6000 years as stated in the bible.death could not have come through the fall of adam and eve,asorganisms have been dying for millionsof years as show by the deposits of oil and coal.
The Watch Tower (9/15/1910, p. 298): Furthermore, not only do we find that people cannot see the divine plan in studying the Bible by itself, but we see, also, that if anyone lays the Scripture Studies aside and goes to the Bible alone, though he has understood his Bible for ten years, our experience shows that within two years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had merely read the Scripture Studies with their references, and had not read a page of the Bible, as such, he would be
look under your feet and you will see the blood of millions flowing as the foundation of all Christendom's religions, with a few exceptions. The blood guilt the religions of this world have incured have risen to the heavens according to Revelation. It can't be talking about Jehovah's Witness in this account, we do not war for men or governments. Isaiah 2:4 means something to us. It means he will judge the religions that back the wars of this world. Put on your boots my friend.
A Bible-thumping Bronx man gunned down his estranged wife and then killed himself after accusing her of straying from their faith and sleeping with another man, police and neighbors said yesterday.
The victim's 21-year-old daughter found the bloodbath at 10:30 a.m. yesterday in her mother's Soundview apartment after the woman failed to show up to work as an Avon sales representative, neighbors said.
Hi m8. Charles taze Russell founded the international Bible student from which the jehovah's witnesses came. He was in to pyramidolgy etc. Rutherford in the Watchotwer Magazine claimed after his death, Russell was the faithful and descrte slate, and a critism of him was equiviloent to a criticism of God, since he was God's messanger. Yet the WTBTS have repudiated most of his teachings. If the watchotwer magazine is true, then the current watchotwer is committing herasy, and repudiating God !
And about ( I foerget the name of it) this one bible you publish its easier to understand for people, but is there not a scripture that states (to the effect of) no one shall take away a word from this or not add any to it... is that not true?
When i was in the "truth" a friend of mine was disfellowshiped for listening to bands like Korn and The Tea Party... And you like Linkin Park? hmmm.And about the founder, do you think he really had all this in mind when he tried to get to the bottom of the bible "true bible followers" as you cal yourselves, why do you a have suppliment publications?
If Charles Taze Russel wasn't the founder of Jehovah's witnesses then who was? God? Did he create the First Zion's Watchtower Pamphlets did he rewrite your New World Bible and substituted the word LORD with JEHOVAH? No he didn't. Who was it that started your organization?
oh my bad its newagegamer, close enuff hehe, but yh pagan trinity's n deites were there before jesus's time which like the acardians, summerians are such people, carried on to the egyptians n influence to greeks. These Interpretations were questioned at that time, but under the influence of the serpent was added as the official account thus the people added their own words to the bible, which is disobeying gods word as it says anyone who adds things to the bible is defying god revelation 22:18
Newgamer I respect you my dude, do your thing 'Jehovah' must be proud to see you defend gods word, Jesus never claimed he was god, only that he was close to him, and thus would speak his fathers words with such scriptures when he speaks as 'i am the alpha and omega' which he would clearly state remnance of gods words and not of his own, yet the greek on these accounts would 'think more otherwise, thinking like their pagan ancestors, thus changing the interpretation of jesus's accounts
Newage, If JWinCt were really a Witness, why would someone who made a video, and who posted anti-Witness comment say this about him: "I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to youtuber 'JWinCT' for his help in making this video compilation."
"But I fear that somehow you will be led away from your pure and simple devotion to CHRIST, just as Eve was deceived by the serpent. You seem to believe whatever anyone tells you, even if they preach about a different JESUS than the one we preach, or a different Spirit than the one you received, or a different kind of gospel than the one you believed."
Compare Watchtower teachings to the BIBLE. U will see, most of it does not line up with scripture.
luv4u351 - i see that U get it...we are made righteous by the blood of Jesus alone..not by our works..
EPEHESIANS 2:8-9 "God SAVED YOU by his special favor when you BELIEVED. And you can't take credit for this; it is a GIFT from GOD. SALVATION is not a reward for the good things we have done, so NONE OF US can BOAST about it. For we are GOD'S masterpiece. He created us ANEW in CHRIST JESUS, so that we can do the good things he planned for us long ago." NLT
If you knew anything about Jw baptism doctrine you would know that we do baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy spirit. Check any of our publications that speak of baptism.
y is it that u guys believe alot of wot the pharacies believe? eg Jesus was not God,He did'nt rise bodily etc.
and russell did claim he was inspired and so did rutherford.russell aslo openly admitted 2 b a free mason. i think it would b best 4 u 2 do some REAL research 2 find the truth about ur org.
If Jehovah had faithful men down through history by his power, why did he need to "re-institute" 1st century Christianity? That statement demonstrates the contradictory teachings of the WT better than I ever could have.
Because the apostasy over shadowed the light of True Christianity. At Jehovahs apointed time pure and True worship was to be restored and exalted amoung the nations. This is taking place right now during the end times and the gathering of the last saints and of the great crowd. What a wonderful time we live in!
Why Jehovahs Witnesses? Well its really in the name itself, we are the only ones bearing witness to the greatist name in the universe and we have the important work bestowed by Christ Jesus to preach the Kingdom of God. What other religion is under taking this important work?
u must ask urself, r u really doing wot JC told u 2 or r u doing wot JC warned christians about, and that is decieving ppl.
did u know Jesus being a jew never pronounced Gods name and niether did his deciples.now i ask myself wot make jw so special that they can do wot not even Jesus did.
ask urself y free masons, occultest and kabbalists r so excitted about jehovah's name and y they reject the name of JESUS.
if the tetragram is unpronounceable y try?i know occultists use it 4 magic
newagegamer: re: jws r "the only ones bearing witness to the greatist name in the universe"
1) actually there is much preaching work going on in the world today by christians. we have taken the "good news" 2 the far ends of the earth as JESUS commanded in Acts 1:8. we r JESUS' witnesses (Acts 1:8)we witness 2 others daily about Christ via missions trips (special trips to other towns, countries), witnessing 2 friends/fam., conventions, evangelistic crusades,building hospitals, schools. cont'd
newagegamer-cont'd re: jws "are the only ones bearing witness to the greatest name"
2) Consider Philippians 2:9-10 "Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and GAVE HIM THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
This verse clearly states that JESUS name is the GREATEST name & even YOU will bow to HIM. See 2 Cor. 4:5
Oh I do and will bow down to the Lord Jesus. But notice what that same verse you read says, that "GOD(Jehovah)exalted him and GAVE him the name". 1 Cor 15:27,28 makes it clear that God put everything under his feet except himself. So therefore Jehovahs name is still the greatest name, but besides him the Lord Jesus has the most powerful name in history.
2 Cor 4:5 "We don't go around preaching about ourselves; we preach Christ Jesus, the Lord. All we say about ourselves is that we are your servants because of what Jesus has done for us."
The gospel/Good News about JESUS CHRIST is that he died for U & me. He's already paid the price. There is nothing else U can do 2 save yourself..believe in his name as it says in:
ACTS 4:12 "there is salvation in no one else..no other name"
This is the same gospel 7 million True followers of Christ Jesus preach! That the Kingdom of God is established in the hands of the Messiah Jesus Christ, and that we must believe in his glorious name to have any type of salvation!
newagegamer~ So r u saying the same thing that I said about the Good News of Jesus Christ? I think not. JWs believe in a different Jesus (Michael-Archangel), a different gospel, a different Bible. Ur Kingdom Hall will not allow you 2 bring any other version of a Bible into the Hall. The WT has told U that JW's R the only true followers of Christ -the Bible DOES NOT say that. The BIBLE SAYS ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIS NAME WILL BE SAVED & 'TRULY' FOLLOW HIM..NOT JUST GIVE LIP SERVICE 2 HIS NAME.
Okay, here's a common misconseption. Many think that all you have to do is believe in God and you're going to heaven, LOL, if it were that easy. Many think getting baptised (even as a baby) will get you saved; which is wrong. Faith without action is not enough. Some sciptures in the bible tell us to spread the good news of gods kingdom, and we seem to be the only religion doing so. BILLIONS of hours a month worldwide in field service! Molesters,drug abusers,all believe in god, are they saved?
jjj2aaa3 -re:"Many think that all you have to do is believe in God and you're going to heaven"
True, many who don't really know God might believe that. BUT TRUE CHRISTIANS DON'T BELIEVE THAT. JWs R not the only ones preaching. JWs don't seem 2 b aware of the preaching work that TRUE Christians do around the world. We witness to friends, family, share literature, go into local communities & other countries, door 2 door, street witnessing,build hospitals, schools, etc. preaching the TRUE Gospel.
jjj2aaa3-re: "Molesters,drug abusers,all believe in god, are they saved?"
Not everyone who SAYS they believe in God is saved. The BIBLE tells us that & it is NOT 4 u 2 decide who is saved or not, that's GOD's JOB! If someone is a drug abuser, molester, etc. they can B saved if they repent & truly believe! (King David murdered & committed adultery, yet GOD loved him bcuz he repented).
THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS' NAME WILL B SAVED. ROMANS 10:9, JOHN 3:16. JESUS KNOWS HIS DISCIPLES.
jjj2aaa3- re: "we seem to be the only religion doing so. BILLIONS of hours a month worldwide in field service!"
"SEEM" is the key word here. u r so busy trying 2 fill out those time sheets at ur kingdom hall, that u fail 2 pay attention 2 the world around u. as i mentioned b4, much preaching work continues by true christians...bcuz we WANT to, not bcuz we're forced to fill out a time sheet. it's out of LOVE for our neighbor & 2 save souls. preaching should come from the heart.
jjj2aaa-recall the account of the criminals next 2 JESUS at his crucifixion? ONE BELIEVED, the other didn't. JESUS promised the one that BELIEVED, that he would be with JESUS in paradise. the criminal didn't HAVE 2 DO ANYTHING! no preaching, no works,he just believed!
Rom 9:15 God said to Moses, "I will show mercy to anyone I CHOOSE, and I will show compassion to anyone I CHOOSE"
Gal 1:15 it pleased God in his kindness to CHOOSE me and call me, even before I was born! What undeserved mercy!
Oh yes there will actually be plenty of worldly people in the new paradise earth that Jesus has forgiven and will give a second chance to. But those who have known the truth and rejected it will most likely perish.
jjj2aaa3 - i don't get ur point? there will not be any "worldly" people in paradise...only Christians, those who trust in Christ..we have our second chance right now..as the Bible says "Today is the day of salvation".
Yes, those that Jesus chooses to show mercy to, like the guy on the torture stake by him. People that may have been wordly in this world, and may not have gotten a good chance to see god's word, might be ressurected. When their eyes are opened, then god will see if they will reject the truth. And of course those exercising faith in Christ will be there.
jjj2aaa3~ READ Luke 16:19-31 or 2 Cor 5:7-8 or phil 1:23. believers go w/Jesus when they die. do u think Jesus died so that everyone who decides that they want 2 get 2 paradise can just say in the end "sorry, Jesus, i was wrong, i want IN now."? do u think anyone, after seeing jesus will reject him? of course not. we make that choice NOW, in this lifetime, & once we leave this world, we know exactly where we R going...either 2 B w/Christ or eternally separated from Christ. cont'd
Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil.
jjj2aaa3 - read the book of Romans & Phillipians..you will learn about those who have faith in Christ (not those that have faith in an organization)..give ur heart to Christ..he's waiting.
In the 80"s the Watch Tower said that they didn't know until the 80"s about J Grewber being in the acult. but in the 1956 they made a statement about them knowing and they did then and still now continue to use that tainted version of the bible
You just kinda floated by the whole part of Charles Russel being a Mason. If he was, and he did found the Watch Tower soc. Than it would be true that it was founded by the acolt! And What about Johanas Grewber? He was married to a "medium" in contact with spirits and spiritualists. And he made a translation of the bible. Who then the JW's took his translation and incorperated it into their translation the NWT. Look deeply into what you believe dont just let man tell you how to think!
Jw, the Wt goes door to door with magazines that ridicle and attempt to tear down thw faiths of others on a constant basis. People disagree and feel strongly, and thats a good thing. You should love your faith and want to defend it.
All people have asked of you is that you be respectful and not personally attack others.
It is a sin against the God you represent to associate yourself with him and then act the way you do. I am sure any elder would tell you the same.
Witnesses determinedly carry out their door-to-door preaching work, infinitely exposing themselves to threats to their weak doctrines. Through programming and training, they master a potent compilation of verbal and psychological devices to protect what they believe, which is regurgitated frequently to sustain a level of indoctrination within the cult.
JwinCT, If you are really speaking the truth here, and if it is really your intention ti be mild, why don't you prove it by apologizing to those you have attacked personally in your post? Actions speak louder than words.
All I know is that Newgagegamer one of the kindness JW I know of just like any ppl there can be nice or bad as for JWinCT I have to see that for myself as I dont know him or have seen a lot of his post. I can say this I do like Newgagegamer vids. :) its helps to see where the JW are comeing from :) even if I am not a JW
Fine. We will quickly see who the liar is. Tell me, who published the Watchtower prior to 1879. Who was in charge of the Watchtower Society prior to 1979? Charles Taze Russell did it all the ground work, and invested every penny he had into the organization. To deny Russell is to deny your own history. That would be as comical as the Baptists claiming their founder was John the Baptist.
Can you name even 1 who believed the way thaT JWs currently do? It is one thing to say they always existed, I could say that for any movement, it is another thing to be able to prove it.
Charles Taze Russell was not only the founder of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, he was also the principal writer of every Watchtower between the first in 1879 and his death in 1916. Without Russell, the Jehovah's Witnesses simply would not exist.
Yes Charles Russel founded the Watchtower Society, but he is not the foundation of our faith. It is our deeply held belief that Christ Jesus is leading his Theocratic Organization and blessings us with the promised Holy Spirit, and it is evident in our preaching work, that the Lord himself commanded us to do.
We are grateful for what he did, he brought back many truths from the dark. We believe that Jehovah used him to get people to rexamine the scriptures. As Russel himself said, if he didnt bring back the truths in the scriptures and no one after him the rocks themselves would cry out with the message of the gospel.
Can you make a vid about showing how the great apostacy. I like to see how that happen. O and did the true christians make any books or any out skeeping about what happen to the chruch?? Thanks for the vids you make it help me see what JW are like for real and not just about about them. anyway have a great day :)
Name one any time from the fifth century until 1850. Come on, just pick one. Luther? Calvin? Augustine? Bunyun? John Edwards? Matthew Henry? Any of these guys or any others true Christians?
There have always been "True Christians" throughout the history of mankind, its just the true flame of Christianity was burning very low. The scriptures indicate a return to true worship at the harvest of the Lord Jesus. We are that harvest
why would you call 21crosscheck21 a 'good friend'
ThirdNUnion 11 months ago
If Jesus was not God, then why did He accept worship?
GreenSlugg 1 year ago
@GreenSlugg
in Daniel 7, John 20, Matthew 2, Luke 24, Hebrews 1:6
GreenSlugg 1 year ago
Jesus IS Jehovah. upper case LORD in the OT means Jehovah .Jehovah is the ONLY Saviour. Isa 43:11 JESUS is the Saviour Titus 2:13. Acts 2:21. Rom 10:13. with Joe 2:32. Speaking of Jesus fulfilling this prophecy. Mat 3:3. from Isa 40:3, Mal 3:1. Jehovah is the creator. Isa 44:24. Jesus is the Creator. John 1:3. Col 1:16. it is said of Jesus in John 12:36-41 that Isaiah the prophet saw his glory. see Isa 6:1-5.
rbmath 1 year ago
it makes sence do deffend your beliefs, but the Jw beliefs are not right dude. filled with lies. JWs protect pedaphiles. That says alot about how much BS is in the religion. and christ did not write the bible, people did. so when you read your bible, your reading Man's word, not gods.
Bloodygothicfreak 2 years ago
@Bloodygothicfreak so men wrote the bible, the first to the last written book was 1600 years how come it doesnt contradict itself, or why are the prophecies it speaks of so accurate?
ThirdNUnion 11 months ago
Ellen White did not claim to be prophet either and more of her writings come true then JW did so why not use E. White?
Jw people the call has been given," Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her SINS, and that ye receive not of her plagues"
tegf4 2 years ago
Keep diggin' my brother....
Cornerstone: a STONE in the exterior of a large and important building; usually carved with a date and laid with appropriate CEREmonies.
Brother: a male person who is a fellow member (of a fraternity or religion or other group)
Charles Taze along with Judge Rutherford (a lawyer under US UCC law) helped create JW re-legion through FREEMASONRY.
Almost everything that is taught and spoken in the JW re-legion has a dual meaning. Most SHEEP aren't aware. Sad.
phantomorpheus 2 years ago
you don't know what you're talking about....
Italiancurly33 3 years ago
The Jehovahs witness (allies Russelites) are a deceiving cult inspired by Satan, who change the truth of Jehovahs word for a lie and ignorantly condemn mankinds souls to an eternally conscious lake of fire. When they make one convert they make them twice the sons of hell they were before. The only thing the Russelites put first is their Watchtower Organization then Satan the god of this world
shoe6464 3 years ago
@shoe6464 so whats their motivation for deceiving you if thats what you think?
ThirdNUnion 11 months ago
True, there have been those in times past who Predicted an "End" to the world, even announcing a Specific Date. Yet Nothing happened. The 'End' did Not come. They were Guilty of False Prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were GOD's Truths and the evidence that HE was using and guiding them.'' (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968)
Superbad72 3 years ago
That you regard Jesus, not the WT, as the foundation of your faith, is why you are now a Christian and not a JW.
Even if Russell did not CLAIM he was a prophet, that is IRRELEVANT. The test of a false prophet in Dt 18 is not CLAIMING to be a prophet but MAKING a false prediction in God's name.
And Russell made MANY false predictions, including:
"By 1914 the Lord will have FULL CONTROL .. and God's kingdom will TAKE THE PLACE of man's governments." ("Studies in the Scriptures," 1889, p.2:76).
Senojes 3 years ago
When you got baptized, was it in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit or spirit directed organization? Doesn't it strike you a little strange that God suddenly doesn't need the Holy Spirit during baptism anymore? Or was that the governing body's call? Read Matthew 28:19,20 again, and see what you come up with.
Jewelsheam 3 years ago
The reason you said the faithful slave is because the society put more emphasis on them and the governing body than they do Christ. Your answer was truthful, but it's not what they want you to say to rest of the world when you're out in service.
Jewelsheam 3 years ago
common sense dismisses the story of noahs ark as a primitive myth and the idea of sacifical offerings and atonement are unworthy of a good god. some human beings need a saviour in their lives to feel worthy.
scatts38 3 years ago
humankind has developed over millions of years and not the 6000 years as stated in the bible.death could not have come through the fall of adam and eve,asorganisms have been dying for millionsof years as show by the deposits of oil and coal.
scatts38 3 years ago
The Watch Tower (9/15/1910, p. 298): Furthermore, not only do we find that people cannot see the divine plan in studying the Bible by itself, but we see, also, that if anyone lays the Scripture Studies aside and goes to the Bible alone, though he has understood his Bible for ten years, our experience shows that within two years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had merely read the Scripture Studies with their references, and had not read a page of the Bible, as such, he would be
epidome 3 years ago
in the light at the end of two years. The Watchtower (12/1/81,p.27)
epidome 3 years ago
21cc21,
look under your feet and you will see the blood of millions flowing as the foundation of all Christendom's religions, with a few exceptions. The blood guilt the religions of this world have incured have risen to the heavens according to Revelation. It can't be talking about Jehovah's Witness in this account, we do not war for men or governments. Isaiah 2:4 means something to us. It means he will judge the religions that back the wars of this world. Put on your boots my friend.
Robin
nibornagrom 3 years ago
you cannot possibly be christians if you do not believe in JESUS being GOD
turi73 3 years ago
New York Daily News
Jehovah's Witness shoots wife
Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005
A Bible-thumping Bronx man gunned down his estranged wife and then killed himself after accusing her of straying from their faith and sleeping with another man, police and neighbors said yesterday.
The victim's 21-year-old daughter found the bloodbath at 10:30 a.m. yesterday in her mother's Soundview apartment after the woman failed to show up to work as an Avon sales representative, neighbors said.
jerkovah 3 years ago
Hi m8. Charles taze Russell founded the international Bible student from which the jehovah's witnesses came. He was in to pyramidolgy etc. Rutherford in the Watchotwer Magazine claimed after his death, Russell was the faithful and descrte slate, and a critism of him was equiviloent to a criticism of God, since he was God's messanger. Yet the WTBTS have repudiated most of his teachings. If the watchotwer magazine is true, then the current watchotwer is committing herasy, and repudiating God !
ironjohnlad 3 years ago
And about ( I foerget the name of it) this one bible you publish its easier to understand for people, but is there not a scripture that states (to the effect of) no one shall take away a word from this or not add any to it... is that not true?
Im curious..
ohyrth 3 years ago
When i was in the "truth" a friend of mine was disfellowshiped for listening to bands like Korn and The Tea Party... And you like Linkin Park? hmmm.And about the founder, do you think he really had all this in mind when he tried to get to the bottom of the bible "true bible followers" as you cal yourselves, why do you a have suppliment publications?
ohyrth 3 years ago
If Charles Taze Russel wasn't the founder of Jehovah's witnesses then who was? God? Did he create the First Zion's Watchtower Pamphlets did he rewrite your New World Bible and substituted the word LORD with JEHOVAH? No he didn't. Who was it that started your organization?
roger767 3 years ago
oh my bad its newagegamer, close enuff hehe, but yh pagan trinity's n deites were there before jesus's time which like the acardians, summerians are such people, carried on to the egyptians n influence to greeks. These Interpretations were questioned at that time, but under the influence of the serpent was added as the official account thus the people added their own words to the bible, which is disobeying gods word as it says anyone who adds things to the bible is defying god revelation 22:18
luvdaguvner 3 years ago
Newgamer I respect you my dude, do your thing 'Jehovah' must be proud to see you defend gods word, Jesus never claimed he was god, only that he was close to him, and thus would speak his fathers words with such scriptures when he speaks as 'i am the alpha and omega' which he would clearly state remnance of gods words and not of his own, yet the greek on these accounts would 'think more otherwise, thinking like their pagan ancestors, thus changing the interpretation of jesus's accounts
luvdaguvner 3 years ago
Hi Luv, you said Jesus never claimed he was God... but his Father certainly did through his inspired word.
21crosscheck21 3 years ago
Newage, If JWinCt were really a Witness, why would someone who made a video, and who posted anti-Witness comment say this about him: "I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to youtuber 'JWinCT' for his help in making this video compilation."
000266617 3 years ago
Newgamer - Read 2 Corinthians 11:3-4
"But I fear that somehow you will be led away from your pure and simple devotion to CHRIST, just as Eve was deceived by the serpent. You seem to believe whatever anyone tells you, even if they preach about a different JESUS than the one we preach, or a different Spirit than the one you received, or a different kind of gospel than the one you believed."
Compare Watchtower teachings to the BIBLE. U will see, most of it does not line up with scripture.
laffy4christ 3 years ago 2
laffy4christ Good TRUE CHRISTIAN U R. unlike jjjj2aaa3, he has the wrong idea of works: fill out a time sheet 4 men.
luv4u351 3 years ago
luv4u351 - i see that U get it...we are made righteous by the blood of Jesus alone..not by our works..
EPEHESIANS 2:8-9 "God SAVED YOU by his special favor when you BELIEVED. And you can't take credit for this; it is a GIFT from GOD. SALVATION is not a reward for the good things we have done, so NONE OF US can BOAST about it. For we are GOD'S masterpiece. He created us ANEW in CHRIST JESUS, so that we can do the good things he planned for us long ago." NLT
Blessings!!!
laffy4christ 3 years ago
I call upon the Lord Jesus everyday, I have Christ in my life thank you very much.
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
y is it that jw get baptised in the name of the SPIRIT LEAD ORGANIZATION??????????
Jesus told us 2 get baptized in the name of the FATHER,SON AND HOLY SPIRIT!!!
so u DON't really follow what the bible teaches do u.
arnie365 3 years ago
yes yes and yes
mj4lyfe101 3 years ago
If you knew anything about Jw baptism doctrine you would know that we do baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy spirit. Check any of our publications that speak of baptism.
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
y is it that u guys believe alot of wot the pharacies believe? eg Jesus was not God,He did'nt rise bodily etc.
and russell did claim he was inspired and so did rutherford.russell aslo openly admitted 2 b a free mason. i think it would b best 4 u 2 do some REAL research 2 find the truth about ur org.
arnie365 3 years ago
If Jehovah had faithful men down through history by his power, why did he need to "re-institute" 1st century Christianity? That statement demonstrates the contradictory teachings of the WT better than I ever could have.
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 2
Because the apostasy over shadowed the light of True Christianity. At Jehovahs apointed time pure and True worship was to be restored and exalted amoung the nations. This is taking place right now during the end times and the gathering of the last saints and of the great crowd. What a wonderful time we live in!
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
hi newagegamer...can you tell me why you think that jws is the only true religon?and why jehovah chose jws only ?
whitebread3211 3 years ago
Why Jehovahs Witnesses? Well its really in the name itself, we are the only ones bearing witness to the greatist name in the universe and we have the important work bestowed by Christ Jesus to preach the Kingdom of God. What other religion is under taking this important work?
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
u must ask urself, r u really doing wot JC told u 2 or r u doing wot JC warned christians about, and that is decieving ppl.
did u know Jesus being a jew never pronounced Gods name and niether did his deciples.now i ask myself wot make jw so special that they can do wot not even Jesus did.
ask urself y free masons, occultest and kabbalists r so excitted about jehovah's name and y they reject the name of JESUS.
if the tetragram is unpronounceable y try?i know occultists use it 4 magic
arnie365 3 years ago
newagegamer: re: jws r "the only ones bearing witness to the greatist name in the universe"
1) actually there is much preaching work going on in the world today by christians. we have taken the "good news" 2 the far ends of the earth as JESUS commanded in Acts 1:8. we r JESUS' witnesses (Acts 1:8)we witness 2 others daily about Christ via missions trips (special trips to other towns, countries), witnessing 2 friends/fam., conventions, evangelistic crusades,building hospitals, schools. cont'd
laffy4christ 3 years ago
newagegamer-cont'd re: jws "are the only ones bearing witness to the greatest name"
2) Consider Philippians 2:9-10 "Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and GAVE HIM THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
This verse clearly states that JESUS name is the GREATEST name & even YOU will bow to HIM. See 2 Cor. 4:5
laffy4christ 3 years ago 3
Oh I do and will bow down to the Lord Jesus. But notice what that same verse you read says, that "GOD(Jehovah)exalted him and GAVE him the name". 1 Cor 15:27,28 makes it clear that God put everything under his feet except himself. So therefore Jehovahs name is still the greatest name, but besides him the Lord Jesus has the most powerful name in history.
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
rd Isaiah 12 or 14 God does not give glory to others beside's him self
tm11111111 3 years ago
newagegamer-
2 Cor 4:5 "We don't go around preaching about ourselves; we preach Christ Jesus, the Lord. All we say about ourselves is that we are your servants because of what Jesus has done for us."
The gospel/Good News about JESUS CHRIST is that he died for U & me. He's already paid the price. There is nothing else U can do 2 save yourself..believe in his name as it says in:
ACTS 4:12 "there is salvation in no one else..no other name"
ROMANS 10:9 "confess..Jesus..you will be saved"
laffy4christ 3 years ago 3
This is the same gospel 7 million True followers of Christ Jesus preach! That the Kingdom of God is established in the hands of the Messiah Jesus Christ, and that we must believe in his glorious name to have any type of salvation!
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
newagegamer~ So r u saying the same thing that I said about the Good News of Jesus Christ? I think not. JWs believe in a different Jesus (Michael-Archangel), a different gospel, a different Bible. Ur Kingdom Hall will not allow you 2 bring any other version of a Bible into the Hall. The WT has told U that JW's R the only true followers of Christ -the Bible DOES NOT say that. The BIBLE SAYS ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIS NAME WILL BE SAVED & 'TRULY' FOLLOW HIM..NOT JUST GIVE LIP SERVICE 2 HIS NAME.
laffy4christ 3 years ago
Okay, here's a common misconseption. Many think that all you have to do is believe in God and you're going to heaven, LOL, if it were that easy. Many think getting baptised (even as a baby) will get you saved; which is wrong. Faith without action is not enough. Some sciptures in the bible tell us to spread the good news of gods kingdom, and we seem to be the only religion doing so. BILLIONS of hours a month worldwide in field service! Molesters,drug abusers,all believe in god, are they saved?
jjjj2aaa3 3 years ago
jjj2aaa3 -re:"Many think that all you have to do is believe in God and you're going to heaven"
True, many who don't really know God might believe that. BUT TRUE CHRISTIANS DON'T BELIEVE THAT. JWs R not the only ones preaching. JWs don't seem 2 b aware of the preaching work that TRUE Christians do around the world. We witness to friends, family, share literature, go into local communities & other countries, door 2 door, street witnessing,build hospitals, schools, etc. preaching the TRUE Gospel.
laffy4christ 3 years ago 3
jjj2aaa3-re: "Molesters,drug abusers,all believe in god, are they saved?"
Not everyone who SAYS they believe in God is saved. The BIBLE tells us that & it is NOT 4 u 2 decide who is saved or not, that's GOD's JOB! If someone is a drug abuser, molester, etc. they can B saved if they repent & truly believe! (King David murdered & committed adultery, yet GOD loved him bcuz he repented).
THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS' NAME WILL B SAVED. ROMANS 10:9, JOHN 3:16. JESUS KNOWS HIS DISCIPLES.
laffy4christ 3 years ago 3
jjj2aaa3- re: "we seem to be the only religion doing so. BILLIONS of hours a month worldwide in field service!"
"SEEM" is the key word here. u r so busy trying 2 fill out those time sheets at ur kingdom hall, that u fail 2 pay attention 2 the world around u. as i mentioned b4, much preaching work continues by true christians...bcuz we WANT to, not bcuz we're forced to fill out a time sheet. it's out of LOVE for our neighbor & 2 save souls. preaching should come from the heart.
laffy4christ 3 years ago 3
jjj2aaa-recall the account of the criminals next 2 JESUS at his crucifixion? ONE BELIEVED, the other didn't. JESUS promised the one that BELIEVED, that he would be with JESUS in paradise. the criminal didn't HAVE 2 DO ANYTHING! no preaching, no works,he just believed!
Rom 9:15 God said to Moses, "I will show mercy to anyone I CHOOSE, and I will show compassion to anyone I CHOOSE"
Gal 1:15 it pleased God in his kindness to CHOOSE me and call me, even before I was born! What undeserved mercy!
laffy4christ 3 years ago 3
Oh yes there will actually be plenty of worldly people in the new paradise earth that Jesus has forgiven and will give a second chance to. But those who have known the truth and rejected it will most likely perish.
jjjj2aaa3 3 years ago
jjj2aaa3 - i don't get ur point? there will not be any "worldly" people in paradise...only Christians, those who trust in Christ..we have our second chance right now..as the Bible says "Today is the day of salvation".
laffy4christ 3 years ago
Yes, those that Jesus chooses to show mercy to, like the guy on the torture stake by him. People that may have been wordly in this world, and may not have gotten a good chance to see god's word, might be ressurected. When their eyes are opened, then god will see if they will reject the truth. And of course those exercising faith in Christ will be there.
jjjj2aaa3 3 years ago
jjj2aaa3~ READ Luke 16:19-31 or 2 Cor 5:7-8 or phil 1:23. believers go w/Jesus when they die. do u think Jesus died so that everyone who decides that they want 2 get 2 paradise can just say in the end "sorry, Jesus, i was wrong, i want IN now."? do u think anyone, after seeing jesus will reject him? of course not. we make that choice NOW, in this lifetime, & once we leave this world, we know exactly where we R going...either 2 B w/Christ or eternally separated from Christ. cont'd
laffy4christ 3 years ago
jjjj~
2Cor 6:2 "Today is the day of salvation"
laffy4christ 3 years ago
Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil.
PhilipBrumley 3 years ago
the Bible says only those who believe in Christ will inherit the kindgdom..
the Bible says nothing about Jehovah's Witnesses "the united organization" those are Watchtower's words.
laffy4christ 3 years ago
jjj2aaa3 - read the book of Romans & Phillipians..you will learn about those who have faith in Christ (not those that have faith in an organization)..give ur heart to Christ..he's waiting.
laffy4christ 3 years ago
thanks for the reply.so it is the preaching work that makes it ? what about mormons ? i think they are a bit strange,but they go preaching also ?
whitebread3211 3 years ago
Newage, can you provide scriptures that say that the truth would be lost and then restored?
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 2
If everything is grounded in scripture why have you not answered the question posted below by shalomjoshua?
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 2
If Jesus Christ is your foundation then you should obey him.
You are not obeying him.
Worse than that you are undermining him!
You are being restrained from seeing this exactly as the bible prophecied.
Do misled people know they have been misled?
See this video: v=uhXmNM7wb4c
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Oh but I do follow Christ Jesus. If I was not then I would not preach the good news of his Kingdom.
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
In the 80"s the Watch Tower said that they didn't know until the 80"s about J Grewber being in the acult. but in the 1956 they made a statement about them knowing and they did then and still now continue to use that tainted version of the bible
nthnwebb28 3 years ago 3
You just kinda floated by the whole part of Charles Russel being a Mason. If he was, and he did found the Watch Tower soc. Than it would be true that it was founded by the acolt! And What about Johanas Grewber? He was married to a "medium" in contact with spirits and spiritualists. And he made a translation of the bible. Who then the JW's took his translation and incorperated it into their translation the NWT. Look deeply into what you believe dont just let man tell you how to think!
nthnwebb28 3 years ago 2
Jw, the Wt goes door to door with magazines that ridicle and attempt to tear down thw faiths of others on a constant basis. People disagree and feel strongly, and thats a good thing. You should love your faith and want to defend it.
All people have asked of you is that you be respectful and not personally attack others.
It is a sin against the God you represent to associate yourself with him and then act the way you do. I am sure any elder would tell you the same.
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 3
Witnesses determinedly carry out their door-to-door preaching work, infinitely exposing themselves to threats to their weak doctrines. Through programming and training, they master a potent compilation of verbal and psychological devices to protect what they believe, which is regurgitated frequently to sustain a level of indoctrination within the cult.
csh01150 3 years ago 4
JwinCT, If you are really speaking the truth here, and if it is really your intention ti be mild, why don't you prove it by apologizing to those you have attacked personally in your post? Actions speak louder than words.
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 3
OK, so you can guess at some. Who would you guess was a true Christian?
By the way... its nice to see you posting comments without the personal attacks.
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 3
So you all admit that you cannot name a single one?
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 2
All I know is that Newgagegamer one of the kindness JW I know of just like any ppl there can be nice or bad as for JWinCT I have to see that for myself as I dont know him or have seen a lot of his post. I can say this I do like Newgagegamer vids. :) its helps to see where the JW are comeing from :) even if I am not a JW
CIRELUX 3 years ago
Fine. We will quickly see who the liar is. Tell me, who published the Watchtower prior to 1879. Who was in charge of the Watchtower Society prior to 1979? Charles Taze Russell did it all the ground work, and invested every penny he had into the organization. To deny Russell is to deny your own history. That would be as comical as the Baptists claiming their founder was John the Baptist.
davidbpearson2 3 years ago 3
Can you name even 1 who believed the way thaT JWs currently do? It is one thing to say they always existed, I could say that for any movement, it is another thing to be able to prove it.
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 2
Charles Taze Russell was not only the founder of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, he was also the principal writer of every Watchtower between the first in 1879 and his death in 1916. Without Russell, the Jehovah's Witnesses simply would not exist.
davidbpearson2 3 years ago
Yes Charles Russel founded the Watchtower Society, but he is not the foundation of our faith. It is our deeply held belief that Christ Jesus is leading his Theocratic Organization and blessings us with the promised Holy Spirit, and it is evident in our preaching work, that the Lord himself commanded us to do.
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
Finally.
Founding was the issue, not foundation.
Thank you!
BTW, the JWs should be more grateful to Russell, as he did pretty much carry the organization on his back for over a generation. He did an awful lot.
davidbpearson2 3 years ago
We are grateful for what he did, he brought back many truths from the dark. We believe that Jehovah used him to get people to rexamine the scriptures. As Russel himself said, if he didnt bring back the truths in the scriptures and no one after him the rocks themselves would cry out with the message of the gospel.
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago
Can you make a vid about showing how the great apostacy. I like to see how that happen. O and did the true christians make any books or any out skeeping about what happen to the chruch?? Thanks for the vids you make it help me see what JW are like for real and not just about about them. anyway have a great day :)
CIRELUX 3 years ago
Name one any time from the fifth century until 1850. Come on, just pick one. Luther? Calvin? Augustine? Bunyun? John Edwards? Matthew Henry? Any of these guys or any others true Christians?
4Given2Serve1God 3 years ago
In the video newage said that there was a great apostacy and that the Jehovahs witnesses are a "restored" Christianity.
If you believe there is a continued line from Abel to now can you name any true Christians in the 5th century?
21crosscheck21 3 years ago 3
There have always been "True Christians" throughout the history of mankind, its just the true flame of Christianity was burning very low. The scriptures indicate a return to true worship at the harvest of the Lord Jesus. We are that harvest
Newagegamer3018 3 years ago