S67 BlackHawk Wings Gunship Recon Team Insertion dynmicpara

[rossmum]

I'd actually never even heard about this thing until today. The fact that the US DID actually have a counterpart to the Hind, then abandoned it, is a real shame.

It even looks pretty awesome.

[HPAVELOW53]

someone should start an angry mob that will stop at nothing until all the cool helicopters are back

[strandednseattle]

Eat your hearts out Apache pilots!

[dynmicpara]

@hckyplyr90 Don't you hate relying on others to keep information posted? I'll go find the document and post it to our web site and offer it as a link here. The USAF is to blame for obstructing the Army having some measley wings on some attack helos. Life is complex; sometimes the Army is competent on things, others it's FUBAR. Each case has to be examined on it's own merits.

[hckyplyr90]

Your link is dead to 'Airpower and Interservice Rivalry' document. From an Army perspective.....I wonder why USAF is so to blame when you make plain that the ground services are incompetent at specifying and obtaining quality airframes for their respective services?

[hillberg100]

Apache has nothing on a Locheed 51-or 56 or bell 533 for speed

[hillberg100]

Apache has nothing on a Locheed 51-or 56 for speed

[chrisnorris1x]

You can definitely see how much the Soviets copied from this thing. The S-67 came a full two years before the Mi-24, just enough time for them to reverse engineer it.

[kitchenwarehelmet]

@chrisnorris1x You should check your dates again. The Mi24 first flew in '69 - it entered service in '72. The S67 had a first flight in '70 and never entered service. I have read elsewhere that the troop capability was lifted from the Mil design, NOT the reverse.

[jccourtney317]

Ever since playing the Half-life 2 series, those gunships always remind me of wasp-like bugs. :D

[triathlete77]

good looking ship

[mathionthemage]

What song is that?

[Skwerrlly]

Combining transport and attack capabilities is a mistake,in my view;making the aircraft too large.A single purpose attack helicopter is smaller,and preferable,as it leaves a much smaller target to hit.

[captainTubes]

Slack jawed! They don't make these? What is so much better than this that they don't make these???

[morten325]

Looks like a european gunship :P

[beepandbop]

Alot of these concepts were marred by interservice rivalry, and pentagon bureaucratic bull shit.

Plus, infrastructure for maintenance is critical.

[JDEUXF]

The S-67 blackhawk was ahead of its time and I think that even today it could be a good proposal with its good manoeuvrability, the possibility of troop transportation and of course an upgrading of the electronic for the navigation, communication and weapon systems. But it is not even possible as the american miltary-industrial complex has killed its own creativity.

[williamLongino]

From head on and a slight profile view it looks like a Tiger Barb!

[ironfalcon100]

Cool!

The U.S. Army should have adopted this attack helicopter, and it should have been offered for export.

[adrastea99]

And this is why the Apache is slower than the Hind.... and the Chinook....

[H4Z4RDUS]

@adrastea99 You might want to look that up again, because the Apache is one of the fastest helicopters ever made. And that's fully loaded to boot.

[Aliasify]

@H4Z4RDUS Are you actually retarded? An Apache is slower then a fucking chinook for fucks sake!! have you learnt nothing from this video? Maximum speed: 158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h) Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h) compared to the chinooks top speed of 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)

[sakoshooter48]

Uh Guys! I personally know several of the mechanics who worked on the Cheyenne program. Although if looks could kill, this would be the machine to beat, it was a maintenance nightmare. As I stated in one of my earlier posts, transmissions were the main detractor to the Cheyenne program. On average, one transmission was blown for every 3.5 hours of flight time, and that is being generous!!! There were also flight control and stability problems at higher speeds, resulting in the fatal crash.

[Scheltokeeper]

0:38 LOL. it's a fart !!! :D

[HATUEYSYBONEY]

Black H Door Gunner  .. PFC Chase 1991..

for General Jerry E White.

[prawncrackers]

Unfortunately at the end of the day the SR71 Blackbird boke the Atlantiic crossing record to Farnborough (1 Sept 1974) I saw this Blackhawk helicopter crash there. It had zoomed low down the length of the runway at low level and completed a roll and then went straight into a second roll and fell out of the sky. it seemed to land upright, but a split second later it exploded.

[prawncrackers]

Unfortunately at the end of the day the SR71 Blackbird boke the Atlantiic crossing record to Farnborough (1 Sept 1974) I saw this Blackhawk helicopter crash. It had zoomed down the runway at low level and completed a roll and then went straight into a second roll and fell out of the sky. it seemed to land upright, but a split second later it exploded.

[ARCEYE78]

shame about the pic quality that heli is a real beauty im thinking rc scale heli

[saiberunato]

A work of art - ahead of its time.

[mhspv06]

Man I would have loved to fly that baby, it  puts my OH-58D to shame

- US Army

[alton150495]

Why so many US attack helicopters are not active using ? They design the choppers and cancel the projects is wasting money .

[catsfrommars]

This was actually funded right out of Sikorsky's pocket

[catsfrommars]

This was actually funded right out of Sikorsky's pocket

[TogieTung]

From a "Hind"sight, the S-67 looks years ahead of its time its a shame Sikorsky didn't continue with the design it would have been an awesome multirole attack helicopter.

[TogieTung]

From the "Hind"sight the S 67 looks decades ahead of its time, if it did entered service & with upgrades every few years it could've been use in todays theatres of war.

[saiberunato]

First the BlackHawk, now the Comanche. Gone before being given a chance.

[longbowgold67]

Don't quite make that comparison. The Comanche was canceled because the threat it was initially supposed to go up against (the Soviet Union) was gone and UAVs were doing the jobs it was supposed to do at a much cheaper cost (in terms of both money and human lives). Blackhawk was a privately funded venture by Sikorsky, and they stopped developing it when the prototype you see in this video crashed, killing two Sikorsky test pilots.

[Canashea]

In that case, the US and Russian forces may as well meet up in a field and crash RC Planes together innit?.

[ww2footage]

Comanche is technological backup

[Teltic]

i'm feeling naughty at the moment f

[bigasian19]

tell you what tho.. they sure dont make movies like this showcasing military tech anymore.

nice helo

[jjs4you2]

One of the best looking Helicopters ever. It has that early MI-24 Hind look at certain angles.

[Skidracer21]

yeah. it looks like an Anorexic Hind A

[Canashea]

The real NATO Mil-24 Hind!.

[bakathirteen]

@Skidracer21 When getting shot at anorexia is kind of nice.

[ThemostRegectedName]

the thing could theoreticaly dive bomb as it could sustain a high angle of attack with out going into an unrecoverable stall. it would have been interesting to see it with bombs

[ThemostRegectedName]

imagine what the AH-56 combined with the A-10 could do to enemy tank colombs XD unfortunatly the USAF was scared the AH-56 would steal some of the fame for tank killing they were jelous.

[alton150495]

It looks like China's WZ-10 attack helicopter .

[lst1195]

I wonder how much of a influence this & the Chyenne had on the KA-50 design? they do look simular.

[ThemostRegectedName]

the KA-50 has contra rotating uper blades.

[lst1195]

Awesome Vid. I have always wanted to know more about the AH-56 program. YOu say the USAF killed it? what happened?

[msdnvp]

lst1195, russians didnt like usa copying its designs !

[Canashea]

Its becouse the AH-56 Cheyenne had similar capabilities to a WW2 Bomber plane and the USAF had it cancelled becouse the US Army would have took over thier role.

[dynmicpara]

The USAF shouldn't have the only CAS aircraft or be the only ones doing the mission. One bureaucracy trying to do all air missions results in less glamorous missions being ignored; both the too-fast, fighter-bomber USAF and USMC botch CAS for example. To spite the Army's AH-56 the AF got A-10s and this sub-set of the USAF does CAS well.

[DobermansRock]

I have worked on the current Blackhawk for 12 years now. And not for a day understand why this platform was rejected. Its is really a great acft. All I can guess at is cost.

[d4yogurt]

sikorsky ceased production when one s67 crashed at farnborough air show UK in 1974 killing test pilots Kurt Cannon and Stu Craig. it is a shame that they dropped the airframe though

[dynmicpara]

The pilots were doing a roll and didn't give selves enough altitude; but in typical corporate greed, they gave up the effort after the prototype was lost---Lockheed wimped out when the advanced STOL C-130 crashed. Lesson: don't crash your prototype by being non-cautious

[BlacktailFA]

The US used to have THIS?! And we SHELVED IT?!

This was a Hind before there was even a Hind!

Somewhere out there, there are some 1960's decision-makers that need to have some boot leather swiftly inserted into their "rear echelon"!

[grimreaper1011]

This was Sikorsky entry in the Advanced Attack Helicopter (AAH) project. The S-67 was knocked out early leaving the Hughes 77 and the Bell 409, The Hughes 77 won. Had the S-67 won, there would be no AH-64 (Hughes 77) today.

[dynmicpara]

And what was the Army mentality to reject SPEED? Cowardice to not confront the USAF having lost to them over the Cheyenne and BS fantasies that slow armored-up helicopters with high-g landing gear and crash-resistant features could make up for a lack of speed when we need BOTH