I went to Wales once. It rained non-stop and was very windy. No-one spoke English and everyone cursed the English. There are more sheep than humans. The only food is seaweed and cheese on toast. Everyone is small, dark-eyed & dark-haired. They play a strange game called rugby and they think they are special. They claim that St Patrick and guinness are Welsh and they hate the English. They are obsessed with England and talk of nothing but the English. I am never going back.
@dewiowen1 pa dinc Seisnigaidd*? Mae'n amlwg mae rhywun sydd wedi dysgu'r Gymraeg a Chymraeg y gogledd yw hwn nid Cymraeg y de, am sylw di-sail a gwahaniaethu, angen i ni uno fel Cymry yn hytrach na chreu rhaniadau o hyd, does rhyfedd bod ein gwlad llawn problemau, ein hiaith yn cilio a'n rhyddid wedi cymryd, gan nad ydym yn gallu uno dan un Cenedl ac un achos. A wi'n Hwntw o Shir Gar, licen i se chi'n dod fan hyn i glywed y 'tinc Seisnigaidd'
@adamjones416 Well, dyna ni Cymraeg graenus. Mae o felly yn fwy o biti fod ydach wedi un ai heb ddarllen fy negas yn gywir, neu wedi ei camddeallt.
'Ofnadwy 'di'r dinc Saesnegaidd yn de.'
Mae 'yn de' yn meddwl 'isn't it' yn Saesneg. Ddim rhedeg ar y Cymry yn y De ydw i. Os fyswn wedi sgwennu 'Ofnadwy 'di'r dinc Saesnegaidd YN Y DE' wedyn fyswn yn cytuno efo pob dim rydach wedi sgwennu. Talwch dipyn mwy o sylw tro nesaf rydach yn teimlo fel pregethu i rhywun os gwelwch yn dda.
The Welsh language is used as a political football in Wales. The fact is that there is no real organic growth of the Welsh language. The people learning it today are usually upper middle class English that have moved to Wales for one reason or another and think it's quaint or cool or more 'earthy'. It has actually become elitist. These people would not have been seen dead speaking Welsh 30/40 years ago as it was deemed a language of the working class.
Why should we use French? Why should we use Japanese? Welsh language is just as important as all the other languages, just because its smaller doesnt mean anything. Mae'r dweud "bethau da yn dod i mewn pecynnau bach"
@welshperson123 It sounds like you have never been out of Wales mate. ARROGANT! Try being a non Welsh speaker visiting North Wales. Then you will see how arrogant and bigoted a human being can be.
Welsh language? Welsh has never been widely spoken in Wales it's just a fad that hasn't caught on.
What is the point? It's nice and quaint, a bit of a novelty but after that ????
Any language that translates microwave to poppety ping has to be a bit daft.
@TPLR2 "Try being a non Welsh speaker visiting North Wales. Then you will see how arrogant and bigoted a human being can be." You're in Wales. Maybe you should speak the language of the fucking land.
"Welsh has never been widely spoken in Wales it's just a fad that hasn't caught on." Are you retarded? Did you really just say that? Welsh was never widely spoken in Wales, eh? What did they speak before the Saxons? Japanese, perhaps? Esperanto? Sure it's changed, but so has english!
Wow! Your debating skills are top notch. The language of the land? (Or f***ing land as you call Wales)
I presume that would be English, because everyone can speak it!
Unlike your sacred Welsh off-shoot of British. Maybe we should all go back to ridiculous local languages that only a hand full of people speak such as Breton, Cornish and Cumbric? Let's have kids in Cornwall being "FORCED" to learn a language that is also redundant! God Bless. popty ping
@TPLR2 Microwave does not translate into "poppety ping". How old are you, 11? 12? Either that or you're just the stereotypical saes cunt who thinks his german-gypsy heritage makes him more important than everyone else. It's sad that some people see it as being "forced" unto others; and it's even more sad that some people don't want to learn it. I understand English is the dominant language in the world, but doing away with other languages is just fucking stupid. Even YOU have to see that.
@TPLR2 Oh give me a fucking break. Yes it's compulsory; just as it's compulsory in any country to take a class in speaking it's mother tongue correctly.
@TPLR2 it's not popti ping pal, it's micro don. If you just want to use you tube to piss people off by claiming their language, and therefore heritage is obsolete because you deem it to be, fine. Just do it some where else, I didn't click on this video to read comments from some elite-ist prick such as yourself.
@TPLR2 you're really going to reply to my comment? why bother? you don't speak the language, why does it bother you that other people can? I really can't see why people like you bother to go trolling around youtube like you do. I don't want it to die as it's my first language, as it is my parents', my grandparents', and my ancesters' before them. My entire comunity speakes it. There are 5 ALL welsh high schools in my small area alone, all with exellent education. It will not die until we let it.
@rhidiandavies1991 Hello. 1 I don't trawl the net looking for this YouTube recommends....2 It doesn't bother that other people can speak Welsh. 3 The first post I made was for a laugh the postee, (If that's a real word) bit. To wind some people up is easy. I'm sure you must have a bit of fun doing it yourself. This last reply of yours is the best reply yet. The rest just name call to illustrate there points. Well done to you. (apart from the "Elitist Prick" bit.) Be Good and Nos Star!
I've met many Americans (and all non Welsh-American in ancestry) in many states who would like to learn Welsh because the Celtic languages should not die, and it's a beautiful language. Yeah, it has guttural sounds like German and Arabic and Russian, but it's still a nice sounding tongue. Hell, Old English used to be guttural. Anybody watching this vid who speaks some Welsh should be proud. I think everybody with Welsh blood in Wales should be able to speak some, and more than just greetings.
@MegaLolburger you will pick up words in your future life.....buy some books and audio tapes and take it at your own pace...humans have incredible potential to learn anything
Dw i'n dod o Loegr ond dw i'n siarad Cymraeg. I'm at Bangor U at the mo and my aim is to become fluent and to teach French and German through Welsh. You know, I think the Welsh and the English only keep up this pretence because they've been told to. We should all <3 one another. Cymraeg and English.
I wish I could understand what he's saying. To have another language is a great thing. I wish I could speak every language in the world! However, I think English is a good language, it can be beautiful and expressive.
Wyf yn wir yn credu y dylid cael mwy o ysgolion ar ei gyfer. Mae fy ffrind yn mynd i'r ysgol addysgu Tseiniaidd ar ddydd Sadwrn i ddysgu ddiwylliant ac iaith; Mae yr un peth! Mae iaith hyfryd. Pob sy'n cytuno dylai wylio fideo hwn.
I have a Welsh heritage but sadly I know nothing of Wales. I was born and raised in Canada and I would like to learn more about Wales, its language, and customs. I am not able to simply move to Wales so what are my options?
Why should you use Welsh? Because it's your history and it's part of your culture and your identity. Lose it and you lose a part of yourselves. And I'm English BTW.
@Valvallaria Well that's an appalling attitude to have. But to be honest, it doesn't really matter since the Welsh language has already gone to the dogs. Ancient fusional inflections have been dropping like flies over the past century. Thumbs me down everyone, I'm sure it'll make you all very happy.
@DativeCase And? Languages change anbd every language is contaminated with words from other languages, yaddda, yadda. If you want to do something against it - and you are a welsh speaker... well, that is your chance. The language belongs to everyone who speaks it, just like any other language - and those people have the baility to change it.
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The sad reality is some REALLY THICK welsh people get well paid important jobs because they can speak welsh. Whereas an English person who may be fluent in five globally popular languages couldn't even apply.Backward thinking leads to backward lifestyle.
@davidziedoo, well that's because there is a demand for Welsh speakers. There are plenty of people who speak English, but when it comes to small languages which require speakers than people who can speak it are going to be paid pretty well. It's not backward thinking, it's supply and demand, the foundation of economy. Same here in Ireland, the EU needs Irish speakers, lots of places need em, and thankfully the langauge is growing. Tá an Ghaeilge agam =]
@AnOicheGhealai You just refuted your own position! If the welsh language is a minority language then how great can the demand be? As james corden said "I have heard of a frenchman who could not speak french". Yet many welsh people do not speak it. It would be a greater occupation of time to learn a language like french or spanish or german.
@JonnyLightning Hmmm Ironic. Dont you come from the US? The french have only ever given us great things... food, existentialism, great authors, etc etc.
They've also destroyed quite a few dialects and languages within the borders of France, including: Dutch (Zeelandic), German (Alsatian, Lotharingian, Luxemburgish), Italian (Corsican and Provenzale), Occitan (dialect of French), Basque, and Breton.
The United States' reason for hating France is childish and stupid, and means nothing considering they don't do anything to make France own up for the shit it has done in the past.
@JonnyLightning Hmm. Well, english is a language that is mainly french. We have borrowed many words from french. Old english is very similar. The language of shakespeare. Our language is all the better for it. Language evolves and to say that one language destroys another is silly. One replaces the other because it has more use.
What the fuck are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the assimilation and evolution of language, that's all fine and dandy. What the French have done is deliberately attempted (and essentially suceeded) to destroy these languages and cultures in their own lands of origin simply because they aren't French. They aren't being replaced because French has more use, but because the French government forbids the use of these languages.
@ThePsydome Old english was not the language of shakespeare you retard. And english replaced the celtic languages of britain because of assimilation and linguicide not for any fucking practical reason.
@Pawnbroker00 Early modern english, same thing. My point was it was english... If it was welsh they would be handing out tissues to wipe the spit not for crying ladies.
so, what is the problem man? learn some Welsh and u will be well paid... God give full revival for the Celtic languages and to every other endangered languages of the world!
God loves us so much He sent His only Son to die to take the punishment we desearve for our sins. Jesus was sinless, but He came to Earth as a man and died for us. that's how much He loves us.
if u repent of ur sin (turn from sin to God) and accept Jesus Christ the Son of God as the Lord of ur life He will save u from the Hell we desearve, and God will forgive us and grant us a place in Heaven.
What about for the Black Man? Can the Black Man learn Welsh to improve his standing in the minds of the white folks of American and Europe? Or would that be the biggest lost cause of all time?
whaT? what about the black man? why do you want to make him so different? why do you think a black or yellow or blue or purple man cant learn welsh or any other language? its not an issue what colour or size or creed you are....why would you think that????
"Am I a bore obsessed with colur and victimhood?" Well now, how warm and thoughtful of you to ask .
Now let me ask you this chrisjoneschrisjones, do ducks wear rubber boots whenever they go about their business in all kinds of water 'cause they're obsessed with stying dry and hate getting their feet wet? Feel at liberty to take as much time as you need to proffer an answer. (Hopefully the correct one).
Look pal, all you had to say was, "ok guy, point taken" after realizing my answer to your question. I thought asking a certain kind of rhetorical counter-question was a more effective way to satisfy your quiry - for saying "no". However, it seemed to me that your superflous response proved me dead wrong - and most disconcertingly so. I suppose for now on I'll have to work much more harder to brush up on my ingenuity & finesse and avoid being misleadingly obscure and puzzling.
well i know the feeling-i expect people on youtube to totally get my sarcasm,wit and post modern comments but they usually,like,totally dont!
so forgive me for not getting your point ,seriously ,would you mind explaining what you meant ? because i just didnt get it.maybe im just too clever and post modern!!!
Some other time, Mr. Bertrand Russell. Maybe one day over cocktails at "Jackie's Hotspot". I heard they serve great rusty nails and sidecars without trying to clip ya. Oh, and tell your ace dear companions - Virgina Woolf, Ayn Rand, William F. Buckley - I said hello and for them to stay off those damn pogo sticks when trying to out leap that crazy 6'5" kangaroo that frolics around on the magic trampoline in it's search for the unifying principle underliying the wild variety of nature.
ah i see,thats how you want to play it,im slightly diasapointed -i was looking forward for things to make more sense rather than less.but i understand-who said life had to make sense.allthough making some sense is equally obscure and random as not and everything in between
Yes nowadays, it's all about passionately sympathetic concern for the puzzled, indignant, deeply conflicted everyman-on-the-street trying to make sense of this 21st century and you as the leading exponent of latter day elucidating enlightenment trying to save their necks from the bitter life draining bite from the vicious voracious vampire of cantakerous crippling cynicism born of vulgar vapid values by a decadent debilitating demacracy.
yes i would agree with that-there is a definate gap in the market for saving the common man on the street from the nonsensical horror maize of it all.just yesterday i saw a bit of myself in a bin collecters face and held his hand gently while i explained to him in a soothing voice how there was no need to worry and be so confused-it would all make sense in the end.he cried and i used my tie to wipe away his common man tears and pat his sweaty workman's face
Cymraeg ol ddy we de boi! :D Dw i am orfodi fy mhlant i siarad yr iaith fel iaith gyntaf - i know someone who didn't learn English until their were eight! cwl de! :D
I totally agree with you. I'm not welsh (sadly :P) but i'm learning wel at the moment and it's a load of fun. In addition: I just love the welsh culture. Do whatever you can to preserve that language. Speak it every day, whenever you can and animate others to do so too and it will survive!!
Well, that depends really. I think it isn't too hard, although it can be difficult at times, if your native language isn't english (I have an english audiocourse and my native alngauge is german).
However, if you wnat to learn it, I can give you a SUPERB link to an audio course. it's free and the community also is very nice!
Sut mae, sut ydych chi! Im from Australia originally but im from Welsh descent and carry a welsh enw, iestyn and i am learning the language although i do find it difficult on time, im fasinated with Wales and the culture and have bin back may times, would you be able to send me a link or some good learning websites to learn off? Diolch yn fawr i ti.
I sure can send you the link - or better, I can write it here. Sadly I can't write complete urls in here, but just type 'saysomethinginwelsh' into google and you'll find the site directly on teh first entry.
It's a free audiocourse, which focusses mainly on the spoken welsh.
It's a lot more effective than the traditional ways to learn the language. Just register in teh forums and look into the 'getting started' section. There you'll find all you need :)
Thank you so much for that link, thats a big big help. i didnt think listeing to audio could help you so much and it is so different to reading on paper and trying to remember structured sentences from books! I'll be sure to learn more and more before my next visit to Wales. Diolch, Hwyl am Nawr.
Well - I think the creator of that udio course is right there: if you try to learn a language by reading it from books, it is far more likely that you'll get a worse acent than people who focus on what they hear.
Learning to read the language isn't that hard after you know how to speak it, since the welsh pronounciation is pretty regular, so you'll at leats get an idea how the words should look like if you see them.
Adult education in Welsh provided by schools' Welsh alngugue departments as an evening class would go a long way in this..... helping non welsh speaking parents gain vocab and help their children learn the langugue earlier and allow them to practice at home.
(and if you're wondering why I'm replying in English medium, it's because the people who need to read this can't read cymraeg.)
@DanWelshy86 I am English (so hate my guts like the Irish do and burn my house down) but I agree what you are saying. It's clear this is the case already. A young lady in a Llandudno café spoke English in a way I perceived to be her second language. it was not totally fluent, and she had a Celtic appearance and deep Welsh accent. I speak Portuguese as my second language after English so I hope I know what I am saying.
@Isochest I'm Irish and I don't hate you or most English for that matter as I've many English friends. We also have out own language in Ireland Gaelic which is in a similar situation to Welsh. Falo em português, estudio em universidade! :)
@DanWelshy86 Oh ok, thanks :) My parents are going to Wales this year, and i asked them to bring back a book with them. A book where i can study the Welsh language a bit, just to see how it works :)
check out my 'keltic kool' playlist and see if the language has no place, they are all young & cool, all the celtic languages are sronger today than 20 years ago even cornish has re appeared and its the young ones that are taking it forward, history is fact but we can put english rule behind us. forgive and forget. its now a cultural melting pot so every language has a place.
time to admire each others rich and wonderful ancestory :)
I live in Wales and as well as getting the correct words, it helps to get the correct 'tune' too. I think this man is speaking Welsh with an 'English' tune. Perhaps that is what some of the previous comments were eluding to. But I dont criticize him for that because if he has learnt Welsh as a second language then he is still helping to sustain the language in a way that others who dont speak it at all are not. And I know myself how difficult it is to learn it.
True Welsh? What is that? That's like saying that English has no place now because it has taken so many words from other languages, leaving it unrecognisable to its original speakers.
I know nothing of the Welsh language, but why does he sound like he is speaking English? It's like I am hearing English without knowing how to speak it. Is this what English sounds like to someone who doesn't understand it?
He speaks it with a very strong English accent. He either grew up or spent a lot of time in England or in the towns near the south and in the valleys, or, more likely, he learned Welsh and is an English first-language speaker.
Adishatz deu Bearn: Pau (France) is twinned with Swansea(Wales)and Pau(Bearn) is twinned with Abertawe(Cymru, indeed, they are the same, in /Béarn/Bearn we speak French, and Bearnese(Occitan-Gascon) too and in Wales/Cymru, you speak English and Cymraeg too.
But you've got tv and medias , and us nothing, bearnese will dye and welsh will survive(I hope so).What a pity.
I am so proud to be welsh. The joke about us being sheep shaggers...its like me calling you a fucking farm boy because your from yorkshire...just get over it mate. fuck sake...
Why cant WELSH speek WELSH you idiot since there from wales and in wales they should be able to speek welsh 'Yorkshireloyal' Im talkin to you not about this video
Yorkshireloyal ydy a dick a a retard dont slag gwrymiau i lawr theres ddim c chanddi
Why are you even looking at this you twat? Don't be concerned with other countries that have nothing to do with you. We're the indigenous inhabitants of this whole island - your lot came over from Germany. It would be a good idea if you all fucked off back there.
the celts were defined from artifacts in northern italy and southern germany and the welsh are descendants of european aboriginal inhabitants and are related to the basques in northern spain,not the celts.
the welsh were forced out and into wales by the celts.the welsh lost their basque language and picked up a celtic language.
It's true that DNA evidence relates the Welsh and Irish to the pre-Indo European inhabitants of Europe and that our Celtic identity is cultural rather than strictly ethnic. But this is the cultural and language that existed in the British Isles for an awful long time before the arrival of the Germanic proto-English. People like the Lebanese are Arabs by culture and language rather than ethnicity but this hardly takes away from their 'Arabness' as it's something they have held for 1500 years.
Your comments seem to suggest that the European aboriginals (related to the Basques) present in the Iron Age British Isles where pushed into Wales by 'ethnic Celts', who presumably then colonised 'England' and the Iron Age Welsh inhibants were slowly Celticised? No. The theory is that a small Celtic warrior aristocrasy spread its culture into the British Isles, much as Norman French influenced mediaeval England without being a mass population movement.
This Celticised aboriginal population was dislodged from its lands by a genuine mass Germanic population movement. Population replacement rather than cultural assimilation can be shown by DNA and lack of borrowings from Welsh to English, which one would expect if the native Welsh were simply linguistically assimilated. According to glotteral chronology, the 'Basque-like' language loss may have happened as long ago as 4000BC, given how far Insular Celtic strays from Proto-Indo-European.
you have a serious attitude problem if you cant bother your fucking arse to have any respect for a culture that lives next to your own, and has done throughout history.
fuck you, you should be forced to speak a poor mans welsh, you ignorant fuck.
I find these ancient Celtic languages very interesting. I remember in HS during St.Patrick's day my mass choir director would make us sing a bunch of Celtic songs. I didn't realize Welsh was so similar.
I don't understand a word but is a interesting language, not just is a different option to the comunitation but I had read (somewhere, I don't remember)the celtic languages are the most anciente languages (besides basque) in Europe, that means that welsh, irish and scottish gaelic are cultural treasures.
This is very interesting. I am Assyrian and we speak Aramaic it along with our Christian language has glued our culture together even in the midst of tremendous hardship and marginalization. Good for you guys for maintaining your mother tongue. Something to very proud of.
As an Englishman, it is my view that you should use the Welsh language wherever you can. It is your language. The language of your people. It is such a beautiful sounding language, and in danger of dying out. Do not let the language of your country die. Peace, love and respect to the people of Wales.
I thought English was the language of the English people. Is modern English a result of the Norman invasion? or where did it change? Is Welsh and Gaelic the same? Very neat history here.
Hi. I'm NO expert on this at all, however, my recollection is that the Gaelic, or Galic languages are the closest thing that exists to the language that would have been used throughout theBritish Isles. English, as spoken originally (known in England as Old English) actually derived from Dutch. If you speak Old English in some remote parts of the Netherlands, they will understand you! (Old English is almost un-recognisable when compared to English that we speak today)...
...English (which comes from Norwegian "Language of the Angles") was 'mordernised' over time, with the influence of Latin after the Roman invasion, and of course. Like I said, I am NO expert on this and am therefore happy to be corrected by others more knowledgeable than I. It's a fascinating subject.
The Latin imported into English has nothing to do with the Roman invasion. The English weren't even in England when the Romans were in Britannia. The Britons are the Welsh/Cornish/Scots. The English are a mix of Britons and the germanic tribes the Angles, Saxons & Jutes from W. Fresia. The Latinate words which make up the majority of English words are from Norman French (a Romance language derived from Latin) and Renaissance Latin taken from ecclesiastic & academic contact with the language.
It IS the language of the english. We were just force to learn it because some stupid english MP's and the minority of the country decided to force children in welsh schools to speak it by beating them if they spoke welsh. It was the 'not'.
Welsh and Gaelic are both from two different branches on indo-european celtic languages. Gaelic is the Scottish, Irish and Manx, While Welsh is the Breton (corner of france) and Cornish branch.
At first only Celtic languages were spoken on the British isles. Then low-germanic tribes settled there. Therefore it is true that English is closer related to Dutch than to German, because modern German is based on high-germanic dialects. Nevertheless today modern German looks much more like Old English than Dutch, since German preserved most of the ancient Germanic inflection whereas the grammars of Dutch and English became much easier during the centuries.
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I went to Wales once. It rained non-stop and was very windy. No-one spoke English and everyone cursed the English. There are more sheep than humans. The only food is seaweed and cheese on toast. Everyone is small, dark-eyed & dark-haired. They play a strange game called rugby and they think they are special. They claim that St Patrick and guinness are Welsh and they hate the English. They are obsessed with England and talk of nothing but the English. I am never going back.
karezza6 1 month ago
what an awesome language!!!!!!!!!!
thrainful 6 months ago 3
he was born from the factory, far from the milk and tea. modified, it works. haha.
m0ssyr0cks 7 months ago
@spellcraft0204 That's all you need to know. You can speak like a native now. Cead míle fáilte póg mo thóin na héireann dearg
jdbrown371 7 months ago
@jdbrown371 thanks a million, kiss my arse and...i didn't get the last one, cheers from northern italy;-)
scetdellak 6 months ago
everyone just STFU unless you is speakin in ingerlish!!!!
monosodiumphosphate 8 months ago
Sais is a Welsh word for the English(Sais-Saxon) the Scots use Sassanach! same difference.
alanvt1 8 months ago
@alanvt1 and we use sasana in ireland! :)
EoR610 7 months ago
For anyone looking for the reason there was such a dip in Welsh speakers look up the treachery of the blue books and it al becomes abundantly clear
lickstickly 10 months ago
Ofnadwy 'di'r dinc Saesnegaidd yn de.
dewiowen1 11 months ago
@dewiowen1 pa dinc Seisnigaidd*? Mae'n amlwg mae rhywun sydd wedi dysgu'r Gymraeg a Chymraeg y gogledd yw hwn nid Cymraeg y de, am sylw di-sail a gwahaniaethu, angen i ni uno fel Cymry yn hytrach na chreu rhaniadau o hyd, does rhyfedd bod ein gwlad llawn problemau, ein hiaith yn cilio a'n rhyddid wedi cymryd, gan nad ydym yn gallu uno dan un Cenedl ac un achos. A wi'n Hwntw o Shir Gar, licen i se chi'n dod fan hyn i glywed y 'tinc Seisnigaidd'
adamjones416 7 months ago
@adamjones416 Well, dyna ni Cymraeg graenus. Mae o felly yn fwy o biti fod ydach wedi un ai heb ddarllen fy negas yn gywir, neu wedi ei camddeallt.
'Ofnadwy 'di'r dinc Saesnegaidd yn de.'
Mae 'yn de' yn meddwl 'isn't it' yn Saesneg. Ddim rhedeg ar y Cymry yn y De ydw i. Os fyswn wedi sgwennu 'Ofnadwy 'di'r dinc Saesnegaidd YN Y DE' wedyn fyswn yn cytuno efo pob dim rydach wedi sgwennu. Talwch dipyn mwy o sylw tro nesaf rydach yn teimlo fel pregethu i rhywun os gwelwch yn dda.
dewiowen1 6 months ago
The Welsh language is used as a political football in Wales. The fact is that there is no real organic growth of the Welsh language. The people learning it today are usually upper middle class English that have moved to Wales for one reason or another and think it's quaint or cool or more 'earthy'. It has actually become elitist. These people would not have been seen dead speaking Welsh 30/40 years ago as it was deemed a language of the working class.
Easyandy100 1 year ago
Why should we use French? Why should we use Japanese? Welsh language is just as important as all the other languages, just because its smaller doesnt mean anything. Mae'r dweud "bethau da yn dod i mewn pecynnau bach"
LectricZap242 1 year ago
Hwna ywr lleodriaeth lli ond yn fy marn i mae rhaid i pawb sharad cymraeg
RDRfreak98 1 year ago
the english are arrogant people, dont get me wrong i've met some lovley english people! everyone in wales should speak welsh as a first language!
welshperson123 1 year ago
@welshperson123 It sounds like you have never been out of Wales mate. ARROGANT! Try being a non Welsh speaker visiting North Wales. Then you will see how arrogant and bigoted a human being can be.
Welsh language? Welsh has never been widely spoken in Wales it's just a fad that hasn't caught on.
What is the point? It's nice and quaint, a bit of a novelty but after that ????
Any language that translates microwave to poppety ping has to be a bit daft.
TPLR2 1 year ago
@TPLR2 i have been out of wales MATE. and i can speak welsh, opinions opinions i have mine you have yours end of.
welshperson123 1 year ago
@TPLR2 "Try being a non Welsh speaker visiting North Wales. Then you will see how arrogant and bigoted a human being can be." You're in Wales. Maybe you should speak the language of the fucking land.
"Welsh has never been widely spoken in Wales it's just a fad that hasn't caught on." Are you retarded? Did you really just say that? Welsh was never widely spoken in Wales, eh? What did they speak before the Saxons? Japanese, perhaps? Esperanto? Sure it's changed, but so has english!
ProphetWolf 1 year ago
Wow! Your debating skills are top notch. The language of the land? (Or f***ing land as you call Wales)
I presume that would be English, because everyone can speak it!
Unlike your sacred Welsh off-shoot of British. Maybe we should all go back to ridiculous local languages that only a hand full of people speak such as Breton, Cornish and Cumbric? Let's have kids in Cornwall being "FORCED" to learn a language that is also redundant! God Bless. popty ping
TPLR2 1 year ago
@TPLR2 Microwave does not translate into "poppety ping". How old are you, 11? 12? Either that or you're just the stereotypical saes cunt who thinks his german-gypsy heritage makes him more important than everyone else. It's sad that some people see it as being "forced" unto others; and it's even more sad that some people don't want to learn it. I understand English is the dominant language in the world, but doing away with other languages is just fucking stupid. Even YOU have to see that.
ProphetWolf 1 year ago 3
@ProphetWolf Forced! Is it not compulsory in schools?
Who said anything about "doing away" with it? Where do you gypsy from?
I am not from the Saxon stock either.
Going from your language I have to ask how old are you? 27?
You will have more credibility with your points and arguments if you don't insult or use foul language.
God bless Ya.
TPLR2 1 year ago
@TPLR2 Oh give me a fucking break. Yes it's compulsory; just as it's compulsory in any country to take a class in speaking it's mother tongue correctly.
ProphetWolf 1 year ago
@TPLR2 it's not popti ping pal, it's micro don. If you just want to use you tube to piss people off by claiming their language, and therefore heritage is obsolete because you deem it to be, fine. Just do it some where else, I didn't click on this video to read comments from some elite-ist prick such as yourself.
rhidiandavies1991 1 year ago
@rhidiandavies1991 Nice language rid. It is obsolete. Just like a Sinclair Spectrum or a cat's whisker radio.
TPLR2 11 months ago
@TPLR2 you're really going to reply to my comment? why bother? you don't speak the language, why does it bother you that other people can? I really can't see why people like you bother to go trolling around youtube like you do. I don't want it to die as it's my first language, as it is my parents', my grandparents', and my ancesters' before them. My entire comunity speakes it. There are 5 ALL welsh high schools in my small area alone, all with exellent education. It will not die until we let it.
rhidiandavies1991 11 months ago
@rhidiandavies1991 Hello. 1 I don't trawl the net looking for this YouTube recommends....2 It doesn't bother that other people can speak Welsh. 3 The first post I made was for a laugh the postee, (If that's a real word) bit. To wind some people up is easy. I'm sure you must have a bit of fun doing it yourself. This last reply of yours is the best reply yet. The rest just name call to illustrate there points. Well done to you. (apart from the "Elitist Prick" bit.) Be Good and Nos Star!
TPLR2 11 months ago
I've met many Americans (and all non Welsh-American in ancestry) in many states who would like to learn Welsh because the Celtic languages should not die, and it's a beautiful language. Yeah, it has guttural sounds like German and Arabic and Russian, but it's still a nice sounding tongue. Hell, Old English used to be guttural. Anybody watching this vid who speaks some Welsh should be proud. I think everybody with Welsh blood in Wales should be able to speak some, and more than just greetings.
moleculesnmorphemes 1 year ago
Im Welsh and I didn't understand a word of that. I feel ashamed :'(
xD
MegaLolburger 1 year ago
@MegaLolburger you will pick up words in your future life.....buy some books and audio tapes and take it at your own pace...humans have incredible potential to learn anything
3tangle3 1 year ago
Dw i'n dod o Loegr ond dw i'n siarad Cymraeg. I'm at Bangor U at the mo and my aim is to become fluent and to teach French and German through Welsh. You know, I think the Welsh and the English only keep up this pretence because they've been told to. We should all <3 one another. Cymraeg and English.
thefartydoctor 1 year ago
d'win dysgu cymraeg.
albanypjm 1 year ago
welsh is the language of the devil.
albanypjm 1 year ago
I wish I could understand what he's saying. To have another language is a great thing. I wish I could speak every language in the world! However, I think English is a good language, it can be beautiful and expressive.
Feisty1967 1 year ago
I must say that of all european languages, welsh is the most beautiful one.
hxasmirl 1 year ago
Wyf yn wir yn credu y dylid cael mwy o ysgolion ar ei gyfer. Mae fy ffrind yn mynd i'r ysgol addysgu Tseiniaidd ar ddydd Sadwrn i ddysgu ddiwylliant ac iaith; Mae yr un peth! Mae iaith hyfryd. Pob sy'n cytuno dylai wylio fideo hwn.
WulverWolf 1 year ago
mea fuckin cumreag un shit lol its a piss take im english and i lernt it in like a day
gwyd619 1 year ago
when you go to lithuania u hear lithuanian so when you go to wales you should hear welsh
SuperAbraham1234 1 year ago
@SuperAbraham1234 Easy and clear. Nothing more to say.
Skaxarrat 1 year ago
I have a Welsh heritage but sadly I know nothing of Wales. I was born and raised in Canada and I would like to learn more about Wales, its language, and customs. I am not able to simply move to Wales so what are my options?
HrafnNordhri 1 year ago
Why should you use Welsh? Because it's your history and it's part of your culture and your identity. Lose it and you lose a part of yourselves. And I'm English BTW.
KateFan 1 year ago 10
By the way everyone - the man in this video isn't a native speaker so it isn't a very good example of how Welsh acutally sounds.
DativeCase 2 years ago
Who cares? We need more people liek him who learn the language to such an extend.
my aunt would say "just communicate".
Valvallaria 2 years ago
@Valvallaria Well that's an appalling attitude to have. But to be honest, it doesn't really matter since the Welsh language has already gone to the dogs. Ancient fusional inflections have been dropping like flies over the past century. Thumbs me down everyone, I'm sure it'll make you all very happy.
DativeCase 1 year ago
@DativeCase And? Languages change anbd every language is contaminated with words from other languages, yaddda, yadda. If you want to do something against it - and you are a welsh speaker... well, that is your chance. The language belongs to everyone who speaks it, just like any other language - and those people have the baility to change it.
Valvallaria 1 year ago
Dw i'n caru'r iaith Gymraeg a dw i'n dysgu'r iaith ar-lein.
Dw i eisiau siarad yr iaith gyda popbloedd gymraeg, os dw i'n ymweld Cymru.
Mae'r iaith yn fendigedig iawn!!!
Cymru a Chymraeg am byth o'r Almaen!
Valvallaria 2 years ago
@Valvallaria
correction:
"Dwi eisiau siarad yr iaith gyda Chymry os ymwela i â Chymru"
"ymwela i" is future tense.
DativeCase 1 year ago
Diolch yn fawr!
Wel, dw i angen mwy o ymarfer iawn :P ^^
Valvallaria 1 year ago
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The sad reality is some REALLY THICK welsh people get well paid important jobs because they can speak welsh. Whereas an English person who may be fluent in five globally popular languages couldn't even apply.Backward thinking leads to backward lifestyle.
davidziedoo 2 years ago
@davidziedoo, well that's because there is a demand for Welsh speakers. There are plenty of people who speak English, but when it comes to small languages which require speakers than people who can speak it are going to be paid pretty well. It's not backward thinking, it's supply and demand, the foundation of economy. Same here in Ireland, the EU needs Irish speakers, lots of places need em, and thankfully the langauge is growing. Tá an Ghaeilge agam =]
AnOicheGhealai 2 years ago 16
@AnOicheGhealai You just refuted your own position! If the welsh language is a minority language then how great can the demand be? As james corden said "I have heard of a frenchman who could not speak french". Yet many welsh people do not speak it. It would be a greater occupation of time to learn a language like french or spanish or german.
ThePsydome 1 year ago
@ThePsydome "I have NOT heard aof a frenchman who could not speak french" I mean
ThePsydome 1 year ago
@ThePsydome
That's because France is a bastard country that enjoys killing other languages and dialects with their shit policies.
JonnyLightning 1 year ago
@JonnyLightning Hmmm Ironic. Dont you come from the US? The french have only ever given us great things... food, existentialism, great authors, etc etc.
ThePsydome 1 year ago
@ThePsydome
They've also destroyed quite a few dialects and languages within the borders of France, including: Dutch (Zeelandic), German (Alsatian, Lotharingian, Luxemburgish), Italian (Corsican and Provenzale), Occitan (dialect of French), Basque, and Breton.
The United States' reason for hating France is childish and stupid, and means nothing considering they don't do anything to make France own up for the shit it has done in the past.
JonnyLightning 1 year ago
@JonnyLightning Hmm. Well, english is a language that is mainly french. We have borrowed many words from french. Old english is very similar. The language of shakespeare. Our language is all the better for it. Language evolves and to say that one language destroys another is silly. One replaces the other because it has more use.
ThePsydome 1 year ago
@ThePsydome
What the fuck are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the assimilation and evolution of language, that's all fine and dandy. What the French have done is deliberately attempted (and essentially suceeded) to destroy these languages and cultures in their own lands of origin simply because they aren't French. They aren't being replaced because French has more use, but because the French government forbids the use of these languages.
JonnyLightning 1 year ago 3
@ThePsydome Old english was not the language of shakespeare you retard. And english replaced the celtic languages of britain because of assimilation and linguicide not for any fucking practical reason.
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
@Pawnbroker00 Early modern english, same thing. My point was it was english... If it was welsh they would be handing out tissues to wipe the spit not for crying ladies.
ThePsydome 1 year ago
so, what is the problem man? learn some Welsh and u will be well paid... God give full revival for the Celtic languages and to every other endangered languages of the world!
szalard 2 years ago 4
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ha he has an english surname and thinks hes welsh
madeinwestbrom88 2 years ago
God loves us so much He sent His only Son to die to take the punishment we desearve for our sins. Jesus was sinless, but He came to Earth as a man and died for us. that's how much He loves us.
if u repent of ur sin (turn from sin to God) and accept Jesus Christ the Son of God as the Lord of ur life He will save u from the Hell we desearve, and God will forgive us and grant us a place in Heaven.
wales needs to hear this.
Duw bydd gyda chi gyd.
God bless you all
daranac2 2 years ago
What about for the Black Man? Can the Black Man learn Welsh to improve his standing in the minds of the white folks of American and Europe? Or would that be the biggest lost cause of all time?
CSD7038 2 years ago
whaT? what about the black man? why do you want to make him so different? why do you think a black or yellow or blue or purple man cant learn welsh or any other language? its not an issue what colour or size or creed you are....why would you think that????
chrisjoneschrisjones 2 years ago 2
Hmmm. I don't know, you got me. Why would I? The forum is now yours.
CSD7038 2 years ago
your not one of those bores obsessed with colur and victimhood are you??
chrisjoneschrisjones 2 years ago
"Am I a bore obsessed with colur and victimhood?" Well now, how warm and thoughtful of you to ask .
Now let me ask you this chrisjoneschrisjones, do ducks wear rubber boots whenever they go about their business in all kinds of water 'cause they're obsessed with stying dry and hate getting their feet wet? Feel at liberty to take as much time as you need to proffer an answer. (Hopefully the correct one).
CSD7038 2 years ago
no ducks dont wear rubber boots as far as i know-unless humans make them wear them
are you black?? whats your problem? what are we discussing?
chrisjoneschrisjones 2 years ago
Look pal, all you had to say was, "ok guy, point taken" after realizing my answer to your question. I thought asking a certain kind of rhetorical counter-question was a more effective way to satisfy your quiry - for saying "no". However, it seemed to me that your superflous response proved me dead wrong - and most disconcertingly so. I suppose for now on I'll have to work much more harder to brush up on my ingenuity & finesse and avoid being misleadingly obscure and puzzling.
CSD7038 2 years ago
well i know the feeling-i expect people on youtube to totally get my sarcasm,wit and post modern comments but they usually,like,totally dont!
so forgive me for not getting your point ,seriously ,would you mind explaining what you meant ? because i just didnt get it.maybe im just too clever and post modern!!!
chrisjoneschrisjones 2 years ago
Some other time, Mr. Bertrand Russell. Maybe one day over cocktails at "Jackie's Hotspot". I heard they serve great rusty nails and sidecars without trying to clip ya. Oh, and tell your ace dear companions - Virgina Woolf, Ayn Rand, William F. Buckley - I said hello and for them to stay off those damn pogo sticks when trying to out leap that crazy 6'5" kangaroo that frolics around on the magic trampoline in it's search for the unifying principle underliying the wild variety of nature.
CSD7038 2 years ago
ah i see,thats how you want to play it,im slightly diasapointed -i was looking forward for things to make more sense rather than less.but i understand-who said life had to make sense.allthough making some sense is equally obscure and random as not and everything in between
chrisjoneschrisjones 2 years ago
Yes nowadays, it's all about passionately sympathetic concern for the puzzled, indignant, deeply conflicted everyman-on-the-street trying to make sense of this 21st century and you as the leading exponent of latter day elucidating enlightenment trying to save their necks from the bitter life draining bite from the vicious voracious vampire of cantakerous crippling cynicism born of vulgar vapid values by a decadent debilitating demacracy.
CSD7038 2 years ago
yes i would agree with that-there is a definate gap in the market for saving the common man on the street from the nonsensical horror maize of it all.just yesterday i saw a bit of myself in a bin collecters face and held his hand gently while i explained to him in a soothing voice how there was no need to worry and be so confused-it would all make sense in the end.he cried and i used my tie to wipe away his common man tears and pat his sweaty workman's face
chrisjoneschrisjones 2 years ago
Try saying that with a mouthful of mashed potatoes... What was your point btw?
p0lym0rph3 2 years ago
Humph!!! Well now is not the time to request I do something with a mouth full of what evidently you only got for brains....lousy wiseguy.
CSD7038 2 years ago
Get a grip boyos! You gotta be from goggland
bouncefatwa 2 years ago
Cymraeg ol ddy we de boi! :D Dw i am orfodi fy mhlant i siarad yr iaith fel iaith gyntaf - i know someone who didn't learn English until their were eight! cwl de! :D
blaaaank11 2 years ago 3
we're not independant, but thats waht some of us, like me, want
gwionems 2 years ago
I totally agree with you. I'm not welsh (sadly :P) but i'm learning wel at the moment and it's a load of fun. In addition: I just love the welsh culture. Do whatever you can to preserve that language. Speak it every day, whenever you can and animate others to do so too and it will survive!!
Valvallaria 2 years ago
Is Welsh a hard language to learn?
arnoldlwlee 2 years ago
Well, that depends really. I think it isn't too hard, although it can be difficult at times, if your native language isn't english (I have an english audiocourse and my native alngauge is german).
However, if you wnat to learn it, I can give you a SUPERB link to an audio course. it's free and the community also is very nice!
Valvallaria 2 years ago
Yes English is my first language but i would love the link thanks!
arnoldlwlee 2 years ago
I have sent the link to you :)
Valvallaria 2 years ago
Sut mae, sut ydych chi! Im from Australia originally but im from Welsh descent and carry a welsh enw, iestyn and i am learning the language although i do find it difficult on time, im fasinated with Wales and the culture and have bin back may times, would you be able to send me a link or some good learning websites to learn off? Diolch yn fawr i ti.
ValleysBoxer 2 years ago
Da iawn diolch :)
I sure can send you the link - or better, I can write it here. Sadly I can't write complete urls in here, but just type 'saysomethinginwelsh' into google and you'll find the site directly on teh first entry.
It's a free audiocourse, which focusses mainly on the spoken welsh.
It's a lot more effective than the traditional ways to learn the language. Just register in teh forums and look into the 'getting started' section. There you'll find all you need :)
Pob hwyl!
Valvallaria 2 years ago
Thank you so much for that link, thats a big big help. i didnt think listeing to audio could help you so much and it is so different to reading on paper and trying to remember structured sentences from books! I'll be sure to learn more and more before my next visit to Wales. Diolch, Hwyl am Nawr.
ValleysBoxer 2 years ago
Well - I think the creator of that udio course is right there: if you try to learn a language by reading it from books, it is far more likely that you'll get a worse acent than people who focus on what they hear.
Learning to read the language isn't that hard after you know how to speak it, since the welsh pronounciation is pretty regular, so you'll at leats get an idea how the words should look like if you see them.
Good luck and fun learning welsh, my friend!
Valvallaria 2 years ago
Yes, very!
welshgazza1992 2 years ago
we should keep it because its our language, da iawn os ydachi yn dysgu a ewch i ffwcio os dachi yn wrthgymreig y basdads saeson,
gwionems 2 years ago
mor wancus ar wenci:P Quite random but it's still cool
LoopyMoscardini 2 years ago
Dwi'n garu siarad Gymraeg achos IT'S OUR FUCKING LANUAGUAGE, we should all speak it as a first and Saes second.
DanWelshy86 2 years ago 27
@DanWelshy86 ,
Adult education in Welsh provided by schools' Welsh alngugue departments as an evening class would go a long way in this..... helping non welsh speaking parents gain vocab and help their children learn the langugue earlier and allow them to practice at home.
(and if you're wondering why I'm replying in English medium, it's because the people who need to read this can't read cymraeg.)
Xray00001 1 year ago
@DanWelshy86 I am English (so hate my guts like the Irish do and burn my house down) but I agree what you are saying. It's clear this is the case already. A young lady in a Llandudno café spoke English in a way I perceived to be her second language. it was not totally fluent, and she had a Celtic appearance and deep Welsh accent. I speak Portuguese as my second language after English so I hope I know what I am saying.
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest I'm Irish and I don't hate you or most English for that matter as I've many English friends. We also have out own language in Ireland Gaelic which is in a similar situation to Welsh. Falo em português, estudio em universidade! :)
GaeilgeSpraoi 1 year ago
@DanWelshy86 What is Saes? Sorry, i'm Belgian, i don't know anything about the Welsh languages and cultures.
Metaldude1945 8 months ago
@Metaldude1945 It means English
DanWelshy86 8 months ago
@DanWelshy86 Oh ok, thanks :) My parents are going to Wales this year, and i asked them to bring back a book with them. A book where i can study the Welsh language a bit, just to see how it works :)
Metaldude1945 7 months ago
Dw i'n dysgu cymraeg.
Bear with me if it isn't correct :) I just started learning.
Valvallaria 3 years ago
It was correct and good luck with learning! It's certainly worth it.
paulmerton4pope 2 years ago
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the best time to learn to speak welsh is when one is on the toilet constipated !!agh-agh-aga
22mail22 3 years ago
im from wales and i can speak welsh to.
totallyseren 3 years ago
welsh needs to be kept going.
It keeps wales being wales, otherwise wales may aswell just become england.
It keeps it independent, and its just tradition really. I swear hardly any welsh people speak it anymore, except for a few remote places in the north.
chwerthinllyd!
awaywiththefairies16 3 years ago 4
Well, more people still speak it that the irish language. in wales about 750.000 people speak it.
Irish is only used by about 70.000 every day.
but i totally agree that it need to be kept alive! I really want to learn it...
I just hope they also manage to keep irish alive...
Valvallaria 3 years ago
check out my 'keltic kool' playlist and see if the language has no place, they are all young & cool, all the celtic languages are sronger today than 20 years ago even cornish has re appeared and its the young ones that are taking it forward, history is fact but we can put english rule behind us. forgive and forget. its now a cultural melting pot so every language has a place.
time to admire each others rich and wonderful ancestory :)
cosinbrother 3 years ago
I live in Wales and as well as getting the correct words, it helps to get the correct 'tune' too. I think this man is speaking Welsh with an 'English' tune. Perhaps that is what some of the previous comments were eluding to. But I dont criticize him for that because if he has learnt Welsh as a second language then he is still helping to sustain the language in a way that others who dont speak it at all are not. And I know myself how difficult it is to learn it.
manwithafunnyname 3 years ago
True Welsh? What is that? That's like saying that English has no place now because it has taken so many words from other languages, leaving it unrecognisable to its original speakers.
Comedian80 3 years ago 2
And Small Pekingese.
TheDarkPan 3 years ago
I wonder...perhaps this is how English sounds to foreigners? Such an interesting thought. In a way it almost sounds like sim-ish, only prettier. :)
maddcat0 3 years ago
Doubt it. English doesn't have ll or ch or rh
Kahukura 3 years ago
he cant pronounce the doubleletters , loolz cymru am byth!
cazthegamer 3 years ago
I know nothing of the Welsh language, but why does he sound like he is speaking English? It's like I am hearing English without knowing how to speak it. Is this what English sounds like to someone who doesn't understand it?
redSG 3 years ago
I think it sounds that way because of the similar pronunciation. But i agree, i got that feeling too.
Piercedpixie56 3 years ago
He speaks it with a very strong English accent. He either grew up or spent a lot of time in England or in the towns near the south and in the valleys, or, more likely, he learned Welsh and is an English first-language speaker.
Kaos77Kisame 3 years ago
I reckon english people should learn either, whatever the scottish speak, welsh or irish rather than french
Innsomnni 3 years ago
Some Scottish and Irish speak Gaelic, but that is a dying language :]
Piercedpixie56 3 years ago
I wish I could speak Welsh
CanadianWarMachine 3 years ago 2
Cleaver boy use Welsh and NO ONE except a small minority can understand you!!
bardi7 3 years ago
Ti'n siarad Cymreag?
Columbo794 3 years ago
Adishatz deu Bearn: Pau (France) is twinned with Swansea(Wales)and Pau(Bearn) is twinned with Abertawe(Cymru, indeed, they are the same, in /Béarn/Bearn we speak French, and Bearnese(Occitan-Gascon) too and in Wales/Cymru, you speak English and Cymraeg too.
But you've got tv and medias , and us nothing, bearnese will dye and welsh will survive(I hope so).What a pity.
teddythefrency 3 years ago
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You should be forced to speak the Queens English, you sheep shaggers.
Yorkshireloyal 3 years ago
fuck you, you intolerant snob-nosed bastard.
I am so proud to be welsh. The joke about us being sheep shaggers...its like me calling you a fucking farm boy because your from yorkshire...just get over it mate. fuck sake...
poisonheartthrob 3 years ago 3
Why cant WELSH speek WELSH you idiot since there from wales and in wales they should be able to speek welsh 'Yorkshireloyal' Im talkin to you not about this video
Yorkshireloyal ydy a dick a a retard dont slag gwrymiau i lawr theres ddim c chanddi
xxkatyluvsjakexx 3 years ago
im welsh and i speak welsh fluently, along with the rest of my family, friends and everybody i know who lives nearby >.>
point taken?
i fuckin hate ignorance.
rhiixx29 3 years ago
Why are you even looking at this you twat? Don't be concerned with other countries that have nothing to do with you. We're the indigenous inhabitants of this whole island - your lot came over from Germany. It would be a good idea if you all fucked off back there.
shibec69 3 years ago
first i am welsh.
according to national geographic mag(june 2001)
the celts were defined from artifacts in northern italy and southern germany and the welsh are descendants of european aboriginal inhabitants and are related to the basques in northern spain,not the celts.
the welsh were forced out and into wales by the celts.the welsh lost their basque language and picked up a celtic language.
youracuntfuckingtwat 3 years ago
It's true that DNA evidence relates the Welsh and Irish to the pre-Indo European inhabitants of Europe and that our Celtic identity is cultural rather than strictly ethnic. But this is the cultural and language that existed in the British Isles for an awful long time before the arrival of the Germanic proto-English. People like the Lebanese are Arabs by culture and language rather than ethnicity but this hardly takes away from their 'Arabness' as it's something they have held for 1500 years.
shibec69 3 years ago
Your comments seem to suggest that the European aboriginals (related to the Basques) present in the Iron Age British Isles where pushed into Wales by 'ethnic Celts', who presumably then colonised 'England' and the Iron Age Welsh inhibants were slowly Celticised? No. The theory is that a small Celtic warrior aristocrasy spread its culture into the British Isles, much as Norman French influenced mediaeval England without being a mass population movement.
shibec69 3 years ago
This Celticised aboriginal population was dislodged from its lands by a genuine mass Germanic population movement. Population replacement rather than cultural assimilation can be shown by DNA and lack of borrowings from Welsh to English, which one would expect if the native Welsh were simply linguistically assimilated. According to glotteral chronology, the 'Basque-like' language loss may have happened as long ago as 4000BC, given how far Insular Celtic strays from Proto-Indo-European.
shibec69 3 years ago
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coming from a country which don't ev sing their own national anthem they have to use the British anthem instead! hypocrit!
Ulbers08 3 years ago
you're a fucking rascist.
you have a serious attitude problem if you cant bother your fucking arse to have any respect for a culture that lives next to your own, and has done throughout history.
fuck you, you should be forced to speak a poor mans welsh, you ignorant fuck.
rhiixx29 3 years ago
I find these ancient Celtic languages very interesting. I remember in HS during St.Patrick's day my mass choir director would make us sing a bunch of Celtic songs. I didn't realize Welsh was so similar.
Morgy09 3 years ago
Is there any chance of a translation from someone?
I wish I could speak Welsh, I'm a bit over half Welsh and proud of it :-)
neuraljam 3 years ago
I don't understand a word but is a interesting language, not just is a different option to the comunitation but I had read (somewhere, I don't remember)the celtic languages are the most anciente languages (besides basque) in Europe, that means that welsh, irish and scottish gaelic are cultural treasures.
Greetings to everybody.
By the way I am spanish-speaking person.
JRDL1981 3 years ago 2
This is very interesting. I am Assyrian and we speak Aramaic it along with our Christian language has glued our culture together even in the midst of tremendous hardship and marginalization. Good for you guys for maintaining your mother tongue. Something to very proud of.
BigMcLargeHuuge 3 years ago
As an Englishman, it is my view that you should use the Welsh language wherever you can. It is your language. The language of your people. It is such a beautiful sounding language, and in danger of dying out. Do not let the language of your country die. Peace, love and respect to the people of Wales.
NotMarkKnopfler 3 years ago 8
I thought English was the language of the English people. Is modern English a result of the Norman invasion? or where did it change? Is Welsh and Gaelic the same? Very neat history here.
BigMcLargeHuuge 3 years ago
Hi. I'm NO expert on this at all, however, my recollection is that the Gaelic, or Galic languages are the closest thing that exists to the language that would have been used throughout theBritish Isles. English, as spoken originally (known in England as Old English) actually derived from Dutch. If you speak Old English in some remote parts of the Netherlands, they will understand you! (Old English is almost un-recognisable when compared to English that we speak today)...
NotMarkKnopfler 3 years ago
...English (which comes from Norwegian "Language of the Angles") was 'mordernised' over time, with the influence of Latin after the Roman invasion, and of course. Like I said, I am NO expert on this and am therefore happy to be corrected by others more knowledgeable than I. It's a fascinating subject.
Regards
Mark.
NotMarkKnopfler 3 years ago
Great stuff
BigMcLargeHuuge 3 years ago
The Latin imported into English has nothing to do with the Roman invasion. The English weren't even in England when the Romans were in Britannia. The Britons are the Welsh/Cornish/Scots. The English are a mix of Britons and the germanic tribes the Angles, Saxons & Jutes from W. Fresia. The Latinate words which make up the majority of English words are from Norman French (a Romance language derived from Latin) and Renaissance Latin taken from ecclesiastic & academic contact with the language.
homoproteus 3 years ago 2
It IS the language of the english. We were just force to learn it because some stupid english MP's and the minority of the country decided to force children in welsh schools to speak it by beating them if they spoke welsh. It was the 'not'.
Welsh and Gaelic are both from two different branches on indo-european celtic languages. Gaelic is the Scottish, Irish and Manx, While Welsh is the Breton (corner of france) and Cornish branch.
oOCaillechOo 3 years ago
At first only Celtic languages were spoken on the British isles. Then low-germanic tribes settled there. Therefore it is true that English is closer related to Dutch than to German, because modern German is based on high-germanic dialects. Nevertheless today modern German looks much more like Old English than Dutch, since German preserved most of the ancient Germanic inflection whereas the grammars of Dutch and English became much easier during the centuries.
WeirdBird 3 years ago