Amanda Knox said she was drugged when she killed Meredith Kercher

[travellingboy1]

Amanda Knox said she returned to the cottage, found the front door wide open, no one home, blood in the bathroom, shit in the toilet.Did she call her boyfriend or flatmates or the police, or run to the neighbours for help.NO she said she undressed and showered, put on clean clothes, dried her hair, went to her boyfriends, mopped his floor, made some breakfast and while they were eating told him what she had found. Does anyone really believe her story?

[nancylp400]

@000YouTunes000 What a silly post. Amanda never asked for this "fame" and has no need to be looking over her shoulder, she is living her life in Seattle as she should be.It was announced this morning that the charges were dropped because everything was wrong even the time of Merediths death which they changed to implicate Amanda and BF. They have both hired lawyers to shop for book deals & good for them, I hope theymake a fortune to pay off the expenses caused by crooked IT court system.

[bluewren2]

@000YouTunes000 you sy it well and I do agree with you .

[lotorobly]

cocaine

[Pinkforestt]

Good sense has prevailed in the release of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito. May the Kercher family have the courage to continue the case to ensure Rudy Guede gets a heftier sentencing...Only then will mez get justice.

[Pinkforestt]

@000YouTunes000 I highly doubt the Italian would want to make themselves a fool again. Most people view her as a travesty of justice victim and wish her well. She will have to look out for the few nut jobs around like you but other than she is happy and moving on with her life. The world is sorry that Mez had to go down that way but no need for 2 innocent people to be punished for something they didn't do.

[bluewren2]

@Pinkforestt No most people do not.

[Pinkforestt]

@000YouTunes000 Raff was an Italian guy dating an American girl. This in itself says why Mignini set up Raff. Believe what you may. At the end of it all the TRUTH has set Amanda and Raff free. Giuliano Mignini really outdid himself with concocting weird scenarios of satanic rituals. He may have the Italians and a minor part of Europe fooled but the rest of the world knew this case was a joke from the start.

[bluewren2]

@Pinkforestt no the rest of the world do not .

[Pinkforestt]

@bluewren2 Well in my part of the world we rejoiced because justice was finally served and a young innocent woman was finally able to go home. The worst part of the whole Amanda/Raffaele trial is the loss of Meredith's life. Amanda and Raffaele should never have been charged and I am happy those two are now free. I hope that the prosecution come clean on all the facts, accept that they were wrong, and help everyone understand that the evidence points to only one murderer Rudy Guede.

[queenbeenightly]

Oh how I'm at least happy that AManda got convicted on the slander charge. Not even Hellman's pathetic court could let that one slide. Lumumba is right, she is an actress, and so many of you have fallen for it.

[hunchbacked]

@FetalPigJuice

The appeal focused on everything, including the so called staged break in.

[64thommy]

And again: Weed makes you friendly and relaxed, not agressive against other people.

This trial was a farce.

[Pinkforestt]

@64thommy So true!

[bluewren2]

@64thommy It also induces reduced mental responsability and emotional capacity.

[Pinkforestt]

@FetalPigJuice NO ONE commits a murder like that without leaving a TON of DNA behind. Guede's DNA was all over Meredith and her room. That's a LONG way from beyond a reasonable doubt that he is the murderer. knife that is too big to make the wounds and does not match the bloody imprint on the sheet, the DNA that was identified as Meredith's but was actually from bread. LMAO! And a bra clasp that was planted by the Italian police to frame Raffaele. 

[64thommy]

Amanda will be have nightmares, about be four years innocent in a Italian prison.

About this horrible judiciary. People like Mignini, Comodi, Matteini, Massei and this horrible Squad.

And the real killer will be free in some years or is still free.

[64thommy]

@bluewren2 As I understand it she was not then number one suspect but just held for questioning.

Held for questioning in the middle of the night?

The police leader Gobbi said: As she swiveled with her hips, she became suspect for me.

This swiveling was on the following afternoon as Gobbi and Amanda went into the house.

Gobbi said also: We need no investigations, we detected her by her behavior. (You remember: cartwheels, yoga)

She was suspect start from the beginning.

This trial was a farce.

[nancylp400]

@64thommy It was a farce & a rush to justice. Even if she was only being interviewed the entire questioning/interrogation should have been recorded. These police/investigators screwed up from day 1. There was never any evidence that A & R were there. They charged and then convicted them on behavior they didn't like and that was it. Magnini manufactured his story to fit the crime, there was NO truth to it, that's why he's fighting for his career now.

[64thommy]

By the way: In the following morning she wrote voluntary a letter with a revoke. Why did the police and judiciary ignored this second statement?

Why the police and judiciary didn't made a further interrogation together with a lawyer?

Did you know, Amanda was one week without lawyer?

This police and judiciary is horrible and a shame for the EU.

[64thommy]

Intelligent people know .....

And also,if you are tired, a stranger in a strange country, set under pressure, accused with false proves, in the middle of the night, then it is also possible that the honest and most innocent person tell bullshit. Therefore is the law, that in interrogations a lawyer must be present. This law was in this case clear violated. But two Italian courts say it is OK.

I can only say: If you love your freedom, make a big bend around Italy.

[bluewren2]

Well whatever you think that's ok with me.I just do not agree with you and whatever planet you come from it isn't fallible prone to error earth.The latter being something however that those two can be very gratedul for.Eventually the truth will out.In the meantime I am bored with the subject.lets drop it shall we.

[Pinkforestt]

Thank God Amanda is finally free. Justice has been served!

[1dantom]

Poxy Knox wrongly enjoying freedom. Bring on the appeal

[1974Coconut]

If Guede had acted alone, he wouldn't had to stage any brake-in, because he KNEW who lived there, his friends,he would have knocked on the door and asked to let him in. And he wouldn't have ever broken in to poor girls home.If he had broken in, he would have been afraid they are inside the house, or coming home soon. Therefore: he didn't act alone, NOR this was a robbery or rape. This was a revenge/hate crime on Mer by Am.Besides, downstare would have been easier target to rob.SOLVED!!

[MrPig58]

@1974Coconut yeh. I think Guede was Knox's supplier. After all, her and Sollecito both were toking that night and Guede was known as the local dealer- I'm sure they let him in.

[hunchbacked]

@1974Coconut

But what are you talking about?

The break-in was not staged at all, it was proven in the appeal.

The stone was thrown from the outside, Guede made a normal break-in.

The theory of the staged break-in of Mignini has been smashed in the appeal trial by an expert of the police!

Amanda has been framed, period!

[bluewren2]

Oh well whatever she has gotten away with it.Time will tell if it has done her anygood to get a second chance.It show's how difficult it is for the prosecutor to get a conviction,even when the persons involved are guilty.My theory is they thought they had their man in Guedre,and were a bit careless with the evidence for that reason.After he talked they went after Ak & RS.They reduced his sentence then.They believed him. The job of the police is tough What would we do without them though?

[MrPig58]

knox slandered Mr. Lumumba and was found GUILTY of this, let's not make piddly ass excuses about this truth.

Patrick Lumumba said recently that Ms. Knox is a Fantastic ACTRESS.

[tampicokeed]

This excuse of police coercion is getting tiresome. Everyone in that house would have naturally been questioned - and try to be helpful in the investigation. One persons story became inconsistant. Intelligent people know that if a person gets tired. a false story becomes hard to maintain, harder yet if 2 have to agree on the story. Sounds like sound police work to me, An innocents story is plain boring and easy. The truth will set u free. MK learned that early, poor AK never did.

[mrmadmanmastermatt]

I think Knox led the pack

[anastasia2657]

I have never seen such confidence in such a young girl. Very confident!

[WaCCo80]

she smoked a joint so now shes guilty WTF? This is as dumb as that old anti-maryuana propraganda video"Reefer Madness"

[64thommy]

In 2010 the EU Commission, such as the government of the EU, set new rules for interrogation of suspects. So there MUST BE a lawyer, the suspects must know his rights, he must get this written, in his language, and there must be an independent translater. Otherwise the statements are not valid.

That there are so strictly rules, there are good reasons. The officers from the police are professionals for interrogations, people like a 20 years old girl not.

Everyone would break in such situation!

[bluewren2]

@64thommy As I understand it she was not then number one suspect but just held for questioning.

[64thommy]

For all Amanda Hater, I have found an interesting citation:

All that is merely probable, is probably wrong.

René Descartes (1596-1650), philosopher, scientist

Because there is no real evidence and the haters can only say it is probable that they are involved in this case, so is this probable wrong.

But the prosecution will again start a further trial. It is unbelievable.

I can only say again: If you love your freedom, make a big bend around Italy.

[64thommy]

1st: I'm German. 2nd: Nobody here hate Africans.

Her statement: If she wrote it herself or not does not matter. Fakt is, she made it as a 20 years old girl, interrogated by 12 special officers, over hours, without food, not alowed to go to the toilet, without lawyer. That is by Italian law a crime. Without if or but.

If someone tells he would not break in in such situation he is lieing.

In the morning she wrote voluntary a revoke. But the press conference was on the way, the line was set ...

[bluewren2]

@64thommy Nonesense!

[bluewren2]

@bluewren2

And complete nonsense from you!

[bluewren2]

@64thommy You are quite wrong she voluntarily wrote that statement alone in her cell after asking for pen and paper.She knew exactly what she was doing. Unfortunately for her the man she accused was squeeky clean was liked and respected by those who knew him and by his staff.He sacked her and gave Kercher her job.He could also prove where he was at the timeof the murder and had witnesses a plenty.Bet you wouldn't feel so much sympathy if you had been he.

[tampicokeed]

@bluewren2 Of course, but it even goes beyond that. She then lets him sit in jail (and be interrogated) for 14 days , and did not attempt to retract the accusations. All this even further removed from supposed police coercion. She had all the time in the world to deny these accusations regardless of whether they were first generated by the police or her. Very strange and puzzling behaviour an educated, intelligent, liberated,self assured, INNOCENT, young lady.

[bluewren2]

@tampicokeed true,I hadn't realized it had gone that far,poor man I hope he is reinstated now surely no one would continue to hold that against him.

[64thommy]

@tampicokeed Of course, but it even goes beyond that. She then lets him sit in jail (and be interrogated) for 14 days , and did not attempt to retract the accusations.

THAT IS A CLEAR LIE! She wrote voluntary a revokation on the morning. Thats enough. But, as I wrote, the press conference was already running. So Mignini couldn't back. And please tell me, how more should she do. As a stranger in a strange country without lawyer. Without knowing the language.

She was one week without lawyer!!!!

[64thommy]

@bluewren2 Fact is she was the whole night interrogated by twelve special detectives, without lawyer, translater, food, permission to go to toilett and recording. That is by Italian law a criminal offense from the police. That she nevertheless , still exhausted after this torture voluntary wrote a revocation show us, this statement was made under pressure and she is a good girl. If I would be Patric, I would sue those responsible for this desaster, the police and Mignini.

[bluewren2]

@64thommy Well if this is the truth it would be a really nasty scenario for anyone.However she is not a dull girl and the truth should have been paramount in her mind if she were innocent. Blaming an innocent man whom she said she saw and heard there when she must have known she did not see him there as he was certainly not there ..is a bit moronic isn't it?Unless she wanted to take attention off herself.Doesn't make sense to me.

[64thommy]

@bluewren2 The whole trial doesn't make sense in any kind for everyone.

As I said before, that there are laws, wich in civilized countries are regulate the treatment of suspects, have reasons. That the Italian judiciary ignored these laws show me, the inquisition is still present in Italy. So I can only say again:

This trial is a farce.

If you love your freedom, make a very big bend around Italy.

I can only advise to you, read perugiashock(dot)com



[64thommy]

@bluewren2 That Amanda accused Patric makes no sense, because she did know that Patric sent his employed home, like her, and Patric so had to be in the bar. A further prove that her statement based only on a suggestion from the police due the SMS "See you later." Unfortunately for the police and Mignini, because the press conference was already running as she wrote her revocation.

And be sure, the ECHR will change this verdict.

[bluewren2]

@64thommy sorry you are confusing the issue and there was no such thing as twelve interrorgators. IT may make no sense except that shewas desperate to shift blame and didn't care who she blamed BUT she definitely had the mindset that people would suspect a blackman before a white college girl.

[64thommy]

@bluewren2 There were twelve interogaters. Ask Mignini. He will agree this.

She blamed Patric because the police found the SMS with "see you later".

So the police suggested to her, she had a date with Patric

[hunchbacked]

@64thommy

I agree with you, but the haters don't care about facts.

If she had named Guede instead of Lumumba, they it would have made sense and given credit to the prosecutor's theory.

Mignini is an ignominious freak.

[bluewren2]

@hunchbacked This is my last post the subject is intriguing but a waste of time now.Why do you think she didn't point the finger at Guedre? Think about it. Because the three of them were in it together and she had some idea that if she kept her part of the bargain he would too..but he didn't and she had no way of knowing that at the time.Better a red herring than the real thing that could point straight back at her and Rafaele.

[hunchbacked]

@bluewren2

What imagination!

Guede had flown away.

If she was guilty and was keeping quiet about him, then she would pay alone, for the police had told her she was guilty; by giving Lumumba, if she was guilty, she knew that sooner or later he would be innocented, leaving her alone to pay for the crime.

By giving Guede, she could put the whole responsibility on him.

[bluewren2]

@hunchbacked Oh I have to reply to this .First she had no way of knowing that Lumumba could prove his innocence Anyway.what makes you sure she was so well informed as to where and what Guerde was doing when she accused Lumumba. Again I say by giving Guedre up he could turn the tables and put her and Rafaele into the picture ..... which is what he did.anyway.The police knew a lot more than they were able to prove unfortunately.

[hunchbacked]

@bluewren2

I didn't say that she was sure he could prove his innocence, but she wasn't sure either that he could not prove his innocence.

They were already in the picture; and if the police was so well informed, why didn't they arrest Guede right away and question him?

What did she have to gain by accusing Lumumba?

If it was Lumumba who had stabbed Meredith instead of Guede, was that making her innocent?

If she knew it was Lumumba who stabbed Meredith, that was making her guilty as well.

[nancylp400]

@bluewren2 If the police knew anything, including how to conduct a proper murder investiagion (where they don't contaminate everything) the conviction would have stuck. There is no evidence that A & R knew Guido. It was to Guidos advantage to implicate A/R because as a reward for doing so they cut his 30 yr sentence almost in half.

[bluewren2]

@nancylp400 If police knew everything they would not have to work so hard to prove guilty people guilty the law is not perfect , police can and do miss evidence and are harrassed by clever lawyers(on the make) as well as journalists the public and family ..A K and RS were involved.Guede did tell his story early on was only believed later.I do not think the Italian police would go after two innocent well off white students without evidence court proof or not,which they believed to be true.

[nancylp400]

@bluewren2 This was a horrible murder, it was the job of the police/investigators to make an iron clad case that the defense couldnt penetrate & they didn't. There are procedures they are obligated to follow in collecting evidence & they didn't. There was no harrassment by clever lawyers. Every accused person is entitled to a defense, had the investigators done their jobs and the evidence they had was correct they would be in jail/but they arent' because they are innocent.

[bluewren2]

@nancylp400 He was a small time drug supplier they took drugs.He lived just a few doors up the road and sometimes slept downstairs on a couch in the other two girls apartment.They knew him alright.It was proven the break in did come form the inside it was staged and if you have alook at outside where that window is there is no way he would have chosen to get in by that window the access was too difficult.

.

[hunchbacked]

@bluewren2

I stand by my point:

- Nobody is able to give me a valid reason why she would have given Lumumba

- On the other side, it is very reasonable to think that they had found hints of Guede (hair) that could make think that a black man had been in the room of the murder.

[hunchbacked]

@bluewren2

And since they knew that Amanda was frequenting Lumumba's bar, they naturally thought about Lumumba; they were not knowing about Guede they didn't suspect at that time. So they imagined to force Amanda to say that Lumumba was in it, and Mignini imagined some weird satanic scanario in which Amanda would have "piloted" Lumumba and convinced him to murder Meredith.

[bluewren2]

@hunchbacked Unless the girl was totally insane she had to know she did not see Lumumba anywhere near Meridith or the apartment that night. Amanda did not frequent Lumumba's bar persay he employed her for part time work for students .He had recently given her job to Meridith Kercher. A.K was too interested in talking and flirting. A.K. did not like M.K. being preferred over her.

[hunchbacked]

@bluewren2

It's the police who made her say she had seen Lumumba, they forced her to sign prepared confessions.

The two confessions were not bearing the same time for the meeting with Lumumba, one has 8:30 for the meeting and the other one 9:00; between the two Solecito told the police Amanda had left him by 9:00; so the police changed the time on the second confession to match with Solecito's statement.

It does not look like a free confession.

[hunchbacked]

@bluewren2

Precisely, why would she have accused a man that she could suspect that he would be innocented?

Why not accuse the man that it could be proven he was on the crime's scene.

[CptUSAmerica]

MEDIA BULLSHIT WILL FUCK YOU EVERY TIME>> FACTS ASSHOLES FACTS!!

WELCOME HOME AMANDA...BELLA PRINCIPESSA!!!

FINALLY FREE!! FORZA AZZURRI!! TI AMO!!!

[Jackie1957able]

@CptUSAmerica Bella Principessa. MA VA. UNA STRONZA. Piu tosto !!

[OrangeFuzz123]

Well done Amanda on being rightly freed, have a good life.

[elena8080]

Ora la faranno santa....ma fanculo giudici, avvocati, ecc!! Vince solo chi ha denaro! Evvai! I colpevoli sono fuori!

[pinkroseteddy]

so scary to come in thiskind of country!! wont go there...

[SanDiegoStudent]

The Italian court failed Meredith & her family.

[8scatterbrain8]

@SanDiegoStudent yeah it sucks. USA = boss, Italy = slave

[mb4308]

what people are missing is how clever this girl is , shes foing all the right things in jail and making powerful friends , 2 books and a movie , has she shown any sympathy for mererideth NO , when there was a service she went to a undewear shop , how cold blooded is that , after all she was her house mate

[Nagual0033166]

@mb4308 So you are just going to go commando with your period after the police cordon off your house? How many days will you go in your stinky clothes while your house is off limits before you buy some new ones? I wonder if mb4308s house was cordoned off for two months, would he/she have changed their undies by now? How long must you be in mourning over someone you just met and kind of get on with and kind of dont before you are allowed to change your underpants?

[Alliooopa]

wow, i didnt realize how much people hate "white" people. too closed minded. The race of a person is besides the point, why can't you all get that?!? The color of our skin does not dictate our intentions...absolutely rediculous...so much hate :(

[Alliooopa]

wow, i didnt realize how much people hate "white" people. too closed minded. The race of a person is besides the point, why can't you all get that?!? The color of our skin does not dictate our intentions...absolutely rediculous...so much hate :(

[Alliooopa]

haha...with WEED! that is NOT drugged!

[Francesko263]

I think she's a liar. And a murder. She does not feel no pity for the death of poor innocent Meredith. She's such a psycho and a cold blooded bitch. I think she must rot in jail for the rest of her life.

[thermaldog]

@Francesko263 yes i agree...nationality has nothing to do with this, only justice. but i think in this corrupt world she will get away with murder on this appeal and then become rich as a celebrity in america...crime pays in ameica.

[Francesko263]

@thermaldog Yes, I do think the same. She will be released. And she'll become a media star. America will not go too far.

[samfitzy8]

@Francesko263 She is not guilty the only reason she said she did kill her was because the police was intergating her from 10 at night till 5.30 in the morning. There was no evidence to say she was even there. The only DNA at the rime seen was that black chaps and he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

[Francesko263]

@samfitzy8 The crime scene was manipulated under pressure of american state depertement. That's why she was found not guilty. The knife who killed Meredith was spotted of Amanda and Raffaele DNA. Amanda lied several times and shifted her version of the story about 5 times. Her only luck is to be an american citizen.

[64thommy]

@Francesko263 The Italian law say, if a suspect say something that makes him more suspect, then is the interogation to interrupt and a lawyer is to get. Nothing of them is happend. Amanda was interrogated the whole night and as she was weak she said nonsense. About these nonsence she wrote on the morning a letter that she is doubtful about this statement. In every civilized country it would mean: this statement is not valid. But the Italians ignored this. So, she didn't lie.

[Francesko263]

@64thommy She shifted her story many times. It lasted weeks, not hours or days.

[64thommy]

@Francesko263 It lasted one week that she got a lawyer. Unbelievable!

If she had not such a good mother, she had till the trial not a lawyer.

Unbelievable!

I can only say again: If you love your freedom, make a big bend around Italy.

[Francesko263]

@64thommy During the trial Amanda changed her story many times. First she said she didn't remember nothing at all, then she accused Patrick Lumumba (who was imprisoned for that but then released) and then she accused Rudy Guede. She was very tricky and fake during the whole trial.

[64thommy]

She didn't changed her story many times. That is only a lie of the Amanda haters. And the accusation of Patrick: She did in after hours of interrogation deep in the night, interrogated by twelve (12) interrogators, in a strange language, without lawyer and translater (clear crime of police) without food and drinking, was not allowed go to toilet. In this situation she said what the police want to hear. But on the morning she wrote voluntary (as a honest girl she is) a letter with a revocation.

[64thommy]

She didn't changed her story many times. That is only a lie of the Amanda haters. And the accusation of Patrick: She did in after hours of interrogation deep in the night, interrogated by twelve (12) interrogators, in a strange language, without lawyer and translater (clear crime of police) without food and drinking, was not allowed go to toilet. In this situation she said what the police want to hear. But on the morning she wrote voluntary (as a honest girl she is) a letter with a revocation.

[1974Coconut]

@64thommy no,she wrote that statement herself on a paper. She allowed police have innocent person for 2 weeks in prison facing possible life in prison for murder. He lost his bar, incomes, and almost family. Amanda loved that, because she wanted to get back at his boss. A never took back her accusation BEFORE police prooved it as lie.Why you americans hate africans so much?I don't need lawyer to tell the truth, or water or sleep. If you need a lawyer...well, it tells all I need to know about you

[8scatterbrain8]

@samfitzy8 the rest of his life?! LOL he will only stay in prison for SIXTEEN YEARS!! that's the italian justice for murders!!

[joanito26]

i wonder... if amanda was drugged on that day... she can remember where she was... she can remember she was wrongly translated...she remember many things drugged... but her ex-boyfriend is not that innocent too...yep shes a liar

[pjsr1967]

@Francesko263 IM WITH YOU, SHE IS AN ICE WOMAN

[Francesko263]

@pjsr1967 I wish her every night a dreadful nightmare about the death of meredith

[Pinkforestt]

@Francesko263 Amanda won't be having any nightmares because she didn't kill mez. Plain and simple :)

[64thommy]

@Francesko263 she has every night a dreadful nightmare about the death of Meredith, because her girlfriend was killed and the killer can be in six years a free man.

What a horrible judiciary.

[hunchbacked]

@Francesko263

You only say stupidities, you know nothing about this case.

The prosecutor lied all along.

[hunchbacked]

@Francesko263

And you really think that Mignini cares about the death of poor Meredith.

If that was the case, he would not have reduced the sentence of the killer Guede.

He cares much more about his career.

[KENA429]

Of course its the black guy. His name is Rudy Guede. They are a savage animal race. What a surprise! A black committing murder of a white? When are you politically correct morons going to wake up to reality. Its the black guy. DUH?! Of course if Meridith willingly slept with this Black animal than good riddance. She got what she deserved for sleeping with an animal.

[prettylou80]

@KENA429 u poor thing again,,,,i feel sorry for such white folks

[CremoY]

@KENA429 complimenti per l'ignoranza...FAI PENA!!!

[jamesdaubek]

Marijuana kills.

[LightLeo111]

she smoked a joint that night? Case closed.. NO ONE is killing anyone high...

[rumbleofdrums]

@HmongLauj92

Are all murderers stupid? Don't you think some of them watch television? What if the murderer saw an item of clothing and thought - aha, before i leave, I'll wipe the handle on that to contaminate it with someone elses DNA. Jesus-this used to be run of the mill police thinking. The world is definitley dumbing down. She/they would never have been convicted in the UK.

[rumbleofdrums]

@HmongLauj92

Do you know what residual DNA is?It's all over your house mate, on your knives, on your floors, on your taps, in your sinks, on your underpants, in the dusty corners.If you touch a knife you're likely to leave DNA on it.

[mjn76]

While Knox attempted to frame her innocent boss, the collection of evidence was faulty and weeks late.

[rumbleofdrums]

Knives are used for cooking, people hold knives by the handle. Did the people sharing this apartment never eat?

Bras fall on the floor of hallways and bathrooms and kitchens and bras get sorted in the washing room.

DNA is everywhere, DNA in this case means nothin

[andy7666]

Smoking a joint and murdering somebody are two seperate things, the trial is now in doubt as the evidence was utterly messed up.. Who HONESTLY gets the urge to murder somebody when they smoked a *joint*? And in fact TWO people at the same time become murderous? This idea is like something off "Reefer Madness", only drug-naieve people could concieve such a silly notion. The African guy who fled the country ADMITTED his friend killed the girl to another inmate..

[rumbleofdrums]

@andy7666

If these misguided fools with their illogical reasoning lived in my town they'd never leave the bloody house. According to their logic, forty percent of people in every shop and pub are murderers. I wonder where all the bodies are from this weed killing fantasy are? You make a very good point by the way.

[64thommy]

This point can be debated and you have no proof.

I don't know where you live. But I live in a state based on law. In such country must the prosecution proove the guilt. Not the suspects must proove her innocence.

Ever heard: In dubio pro reo?

All what the prosecution can present is very doubtful, lies and fairy tales.

Take a objective closer look the the presented evidence and you will see.

And the jury believe the prosecution.

I can only say: make a big bend around Italy.

[HoosierMF]

@64thommy Good. I'm sure the Italian people will be glad that an idiot like you isn't coming to their country.

[MillyVanillification]

@64thommy You are absolutely right. In dubio pro reo isn't just a fancy saying. In principals its impossible to proove a negative. So the only way is providing doubtless evidence of guilt. This hasn't happen and btw the police didn't do their job properly. The italin jurisdiction is poor. All good judges and prosecutors has been killed by the mafia and the new ones have been installed by Berlusconi. It's a media case. Nothing else.

[8scatterbrain8]

@64thommy I think the suspects must proove their innocence: if the suspects are free they will surely escape and thats exactly what is going to happen now with this case. I mean, if you're a SUSPECT there must be a reason, so you have to prove that reason wrong in order to be considered innocent. rudy geude said he murdered with other people..amanda and raffaele were the only people around that night, they both have no alibi, guede said he spent the night with them. that night. sollecito..

[64thommy]

@8scatterbrain8 In a tapped phone call during his fled to Germany he said Amanda and Raffaele weren't there. He changed his story as it was claer that the prosecution prefered Amanda and Raffaele as the main killer. With this strategy he got only 16 years and can so be in 8 years a free man. That is the reason for his lies.

The prosecution say it is not possible that only one made so many wounds to Meredith. Why not? I have my doubts.

[64thommy]

@8scatterbrain8 The suspects must prove their innocence?

When I look at all this "overwhelming" evidence, then I must say, this evidence is not even doubtful, these evidence is only ridiculous.

The modern DNA test maschines are so sensitiv, that tiny traces can detected. But that means not inevitable these traces have anything to do with this case. That means only that a person was nearby. And Raffaele touched the door on the morning. Tried to open the door with power. Enought to leave a trace.

[64thommy]

@8scatterbrain8 I think the suspects must proove their innocence

That is behavior from middle ages. In the EU human rights charta is unambiguous written, that the prosecution must prove the guilt. DOUBTLESS.

We in Germany doesn't have jury trials. Here decide only one judge. On doubtless facts. Because Jury trials are always subjective influenced. Like here. They say Amanda have nothing to do with the murder, but they increase her penalty, for something she was not accountable. Typical for jury

[nancylp400]

@8scatterbrain8 Another silly post.Where do you live that the accused have to prove their innocence instead of the accusers proving guilt? Guede said he spent the night with them to reduce his sentence and it worked...duh...He would have said anything to have that sentence reduced.

[8scatterbrain8]

@nancylp400 italy

[8scatterbrain8]

@64thommy ...Sollecito lied to the police (called by a neighboor) that found him and amanda in the yard as they arrived..he lied because he said he had called the police and was waiting for cops to arrive..he said so at about 12:30 pm but the phone calls were done at 12:55 pm..so he lied. they even broke a window to make it look like a thief had entered the house (stealing nothing ?) and the police found meredith's body inside a room that was locked........

[64thommy]

@8scatterbrain8 Sollecito lied to the police (called by a neighboor) that found him and amanda in the yard as they arrived..he lied because he said he had called the police and was waiting for cops to arrive..he said so at about 12:30 pm but the phone calls were done at 12:55 pm..so he lied.

-> He called the police before they arrived. That is proved during this trial and accepted by the jury. So it is truth.

read perugiashock(dot)com. There you find the explanation.

[64thommy]

A joint make you friendly and relaxed and not a killer.

Looking to the statistic how many people are smoking joints. Are these all killers?

She is/ they are innocent.

[bobokk]

@64thommy Joints also don't make you so confused that you see visions of your boss killing your flatmate and hearing her screams.

She is guilty.

[64thommy]

@bobokk

Joints also don't make you so confused that you see visions of your boss killing your flatmate and hearing her screams.

Joints certainly not. But when you are interrogated by twelve detectives in the midle of the night and has no lawyer then tells everyone bullshit.

In July the EU Commission presents a new recommendation on the rights of suspects. It show clear you have the right to legal representation, you have the right to an independent interpreter. All this did not happen.

[64thommy]

@64thommy

I think it is not a random that the EU Commision presented this new recommendation after this trial.

[bobokk]

@64thommy This point can be debated and you have no proof. But even without the marijuana story, her story is still false. She has no alibi. Before she even talked to police she lied to Filomena. Why?

[iQuaereVerum]

Amanda Knox is a soulless creature that gropes in darkness with no comprehension of the world around her. Murdering Meredith was an act of sadistic violent psychopath that she is, on heavy drugs. The appeal hopefully will bring a life sentence so no other human being will have to suffer death from her hands.

[JHJennings]

@iQuaereVerum Ha-Ha! You've been reading too many mystery novels.

[iQuaereVerum]

@JHJennings if Judge Massei Report equals mystery novel to you then yes - I have been reading lots lately...

[JHJennings]

@iQuaereVerum Maybe it's Massei who has been fantasizing but there is no hard evidence to convict either Knox or Sollecito of anything more than irresponsible college kid behavior. It's easy to make adolescent angst look like evil itself but this is the real world. Massei is more of a politician than a judge.

[iQuaereVerum]

@JHJennings another mindless peddler of FOA DUI leader ideology conceived after one of those drinking alone evenings, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.........

[JHJennings]

@iQuaereVerum FOADUI: is that Chinese? Farci? Are you a terrorist?

[iQuaereVerum]

@JHJennings are you on coke like Amanda Knox?

[JHJennings]

Smoking one joint is hardly worth considering regarding the murder. One joint would not be enough to obscure one's values to the extent that murder would be possible. This video proves nothing.

[iQuaereVerum]

@JHJennings - a FOA troll in action.

[iQuaereVerum]

@JHJennings but taking coke isn't