Heating Water With HHO Hydroxy Hydrogen Part 1 of 2 from HHOG Labs

[phantomscolts1]

put that hho flame against a catalyst metal or ceramic and see if its true HHO can be produced with heat ... this is what I ve been wanting to do for some time ... they say hho will reach 10000 deg and the process only requires 2000 deg

[whydidigetdeleted]

Why call it hho? It is a mixture of H2 and O2 (or 2H2 + O2 to be pedantic). What is the point in wasting 20% of input energy through electrolysis to waste yet more recombining the ingredients through combustion?

[mbas0507]

friend very very nice job, ok lets put this to work, what about heating a swimming pool water with a chain of hho systems like this...if so , what kind of hho systems ( how may plates etc ) to do this, i am sure there is a way to do it with a swimming pool, the water go out and comeback with a good 75 78 temp , also we have a solar system installed , in order to help warming the water..my target is to stop using diesel heaters..any comments ?

[olsenonyourside]

it's like welding underwater..

[dominicboisvert]

can we convert a propane or a natural gas appliance to hho

[InstallGuys]

@dominicboisvert Yes, though you have to experiment with providing backpressure with compressed air, or a high velocity fan. Somewhere around 90 to 120 CFM. This method is problematic. OR, you could replace each orfice with a much smaller ofrice size. Natural gas and Propane use large orfices because the molecules are so large. HHO molecules are much smaller. I would start with 10 .017 orfices and 10 LPM if you don't want to use high velocity backpressure.

Steve

[raitsbebris]

Hi Steve,

I have tried to do the same, but temperature rising stop at +82C (179.6 ºF).

did you had the same? have you boiled water?

[InstallGuys]

@raitsbebris Yes, I have reached over 200 F, which reached a rolling, violent boil. Sorry to get back to you so late, your message was marked as spam for some reason, and I just got it.

You should use a .030 MIG torch tip and greater than 4LPM HHO.

Let me know how it goes.

Steve

[dominicboisvert]

we need to make this to heat houses with water heater Thanks!!

[Watchdog1010]

What are the bubbles coming from the flame area? I thought HHO burns completely and returns to H2O with no residual...

[InstallGuys]

I tested the gas, and it is inert. It is not excess HHO because it doesn't burn or react. The only think I can think of is that it is steam from the water boiling at the point of the flame.

[jmanszekely]

gay

[Robttm]

Well done Steve,, Just Awesome work love it,,, Keep up the great work,,

Cheers

Rob

[burnbabyburn692]

I dont really know what the point of this experiment was, I am confused. Although every material has a different specific heating value of course you can heat them up. In this case you would be better off using the electricity to directly heat the water though because of the loss in efficiency in the electrolysis unit. Resistive heating is 100% efficient so there is no gain at all creating the gases.

[InstallGuys]

Thanks for the comment, however I stated the purpose of this experiment at the very beginning...

Ask D3 for the efficiencies and data, he did the number crunching for me...

[InstallGuys]

Thanks for the comment!

HHO is a wonderful fuel that puts off no hydrocarbons, CO2 or CO, and leaves no sooty residue. It is great for exactly what you are talking about.

I enjoy hearing about all the real-world HHO applications people write to tell me about.

Thanks!

Steve

[numa28612]

Nice demonstration. Whomever said that water cannot be heated using a hydroxy flame probably did not take into account the high specific heat of water and the relatively low amounts of fuel generally provided by DIY "HHO" setups. I was an engineer at a facility that manufactured glass, and we used hydroxy torches to get silica quartz glass to white hot temperatures.

[Davehho1]

Cool Vid ! Does anyone have any links to to published research data that deals with the orthohydrogen and any "Bad" gas fumes or residue due to using KOH or NaOH as an electrolyte ?

Thanks in advance

Dave

[freeenergeeeee]

Water heating water. Water burning in water. Wow, what next ???

What no tea, coffee or soup ? If you do, then just be careful that there's no residual electrolyte getting into the water. Maybe its time to develop a stove top HHO gas burner instead ?

So the Space Shuttle lift off isn't real smoke. Its just a big vapor cloud. Wow, you just took all the fun out of watching it blast off. See if I watch your vids anymore. LOL

[freeenergeeeee]

Would a pH test tell you if there is any residual getting into the water ?

[InstallGuys]

Yes it would...if you are using distilled water, or do a pH test each time you "reset" the bubbler to provide a baseline pH reading. But keep in mind pH calculates the concentration of hydrogen ions...so HHO throws this off a little. The more hydrogen ions, the more acidic, the more hydroxide gets into the water the more alkaline(like NaOH and KOH) So if you see a more basic(alkaline) reading, then you have electrolyte leakage into the bubbler.

Good question.

Steve

[InstallGuys]

I will see what I can do to get the water to boiling. I have had the water temp up to 165 degrees F, but stopped the test to preserve the container(it is just an ordinary glass jug, not heat resistant).

I am testing further, so I will see what I can round up to take the temp higher.

Thanks for clearing up the source of the comment...I remembered part of it, but not all....thanks!

Steve

[d3adp001]

this is where the "telephone" game comes into play. The refered comment was you can not boil water with a open hho flame. There is an easy explaination of why, but it is an interesting fact of hho. What you have here is a sealed hho flame, that is different. the heat energy of the torch is contained. But I would still like to see it boil.

[tjgame2]

Just blow your hho flame on a tube full of water, I did it with a copper tube and the water boils almost instantly. Or a spoon full of water.

[InventorGadget]

eh.. obviously because u heat the METAL first, and the metal heat's the water.. So try to heat a glass of water by blowing the HHO flame directly on the surface and see what happens!

[tjgame2]

Try it with any flame, I just did it with a propane torch. Blowing a flame down on the surface of water is not realy a good test to see if it will boil water.

[tjgame2]

WOW!!!!!!

Dont forget about using your heat from the cell as a preheater.

[InstallGuys]

Great idea!

Steve

[m3sca1]

i remember seeing Mr Brown himself (aka Browns gas)in a video trying to burn himself with his fingers under water with a large flame.

maybe thats where the fallacy came from.

great job with the shield over the flame.

so simple,and effective.