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  • @Thunderf00t I'm a little lost, why would a creationist use the orbit of the moon to prove evolution wrong? That would be like trying to proof gravity wrong by observing goldfish eat food--then again, these ARE creationists we're talking about.

  • by creationist math....my penis is about...HOLY SHIT 4 inches!! :O

  • I love these videos

  • So... much... win.

  • My my my .... I learned something about the moon from this while laughing at creationists. Win.

  • i used to be a christian (OEC, now im an atheist) and some of the NEC members of my church told me about the moon getting further away, proving them right... this video has such great info, i wish i knew about it back then, thanks thunderfoot. Ps: they also have said something about some layer of gas (its not the ozone) that is decreasing in mass each year by a large amount, they use this to argue that the earth is young, anybody got any info about this?

  • 5:15 r.i.p. headphone users, including me

  • Can anyone link that horribly stupid video that multiplied 3 x 4 into 1200

  • 4:03 was a serious facepalm moment.

  • Haha I remember the days when I used to be a creationist. Defending the Bible and whatnot. Thank Sagan I opened my eyes to the truth.

    Knowing that we are here only because stars fused lighter elements into heavier elements, which for a short time come together in the form of a biological machine that is able to contemplate it's own existence, in the form of you, is truly amazing. As much as life can suck, we should count ourselves lucky to be part of the human species.

  • @aPpLeJuIcE37RainLucy I love you.

  • When I first started watching atheist videos on Youtube, I would sometimes think "picking on one obviously idiotic creationist isn't really fair.".

    Now, seeing that all of them seem to be equally idiotic, it does seem to apply fairly.

  • @TheSmackerlacker That's the major problem. It seems none of them are capable of demonstrating any ability in what ever the hell subject they care to debate on. In a hundred years, if someone dug up these old videos, they'd likely think the creationists actual opinions and 'proof' were some kind of satire by a witty comedian, not what people actually believe constitutes evidence.

  • LOL, creationists... they are fucking stupid.

  • @saguhh00 and if dhay can yump that hy why others need them

  • I really feel like studying some creationist maths right now, I really could learn a thing or 400

  • @Darconda90 I gotta say I laughed when I saw your comment :D

  • How do you know so much about all this? Do you have a career in science, or just do a lot of research?

  • The "creationist math" made me laugh quite a lot during this video. Creationist math proves that all of the wars and many of the murders and other random violence (gang wars, etc.) that have gone on for the past few hundred years don't actually exist, since people say they're using guns to kill people, yet we all know that guns are an ineffective way of killing people.

  • ...Integrating this differential equation gives the time to move from Ri to Rf as t = 1/7k(Rf7 — Ri7). For Rf = the present distance and Ri = the Roche Limit, t = 1.37 x 109 years. There is no significant difference if Ri = 0, i.e. the earth and moon touching, because of the high recession rate (caused by enormous tides) if the moon is close.

  • At the start he says that he came across the video at metacafé and later he proceeds saying: "creationist maths" can one become more strawman?

    REAL MONE MATHS: since tidal forces are inversely proportional to the cube of the distance, the recession rate (dR/dt) is inversely proportional to the sixth power of the distance. So dR/dt = k/R6, where k is a constant = (present speed: 0.04 m/year) x (present distance: 384,400,000 m)6 = 1.29x1050 m7/year. CONT

  • I think Thunderf00t was channeling Carl Sagan for a moment there. ;)

    BTW, I love your graphics. Thank you for making these videos.

  • @fowlfables your actually thanking his strawman arguments moving people away from our creator? how can you actually do that, I mean: is it even possible?

  • @xXsakkelaoXx I don't expect you to understand, and I will respect you the best I can here, but after 28 years of a christian faith household filled with hypocrisy, and a deep studying of biblical text, history, and philosophy, I cannot accept a creator in the form of Jesus, Yahweh, or the God described within the collected texts of man reffered to as "the Holy Bible".

    I wish you the best in your personal struggles with faith, and ask that you open your mind to reason as you watch these videos.

  • @fowlfables WHATCH THESE VIDOES?! sir you are deluded, this is as STRAWMAN as it gets, this guy making the videos, is probably as ignorant about reality as the guys wathcing, however your personal relationships with christianity, it is in NO way what this guy is trying to imply it teaches, check out some REAL science and creation evidence at : creation(dot)com trueorigin(dot)com and answersingenesis(dot)com

  • @xXsakkelaoXx The "laugh at creationist" series by Thunderf00t are merely mocking flawed arguments made by creationists. Your reference to "our creator" is somewhat pointless in a comment on this video, unfortunately, as those who watch this have made up their minds. Neither of us in innocent in that.

    I have studied creation mythology at a christian college, and was even baptised in a christian church. I am aware of the arguments, but for my intellectual growth, I will look at those sites.

  • @fowlfables " made by creationists"

    a strawman is a person who misinterprets the view of the other side or uses arguments that by most people of the other side disagrees with

    I gave some REAL creationist maths further down (you may not have seen it?)

    Again I repeat: REAL creationists don't make these kinds of arguments, they are strawman and they are misleading millions

  • @xXsakkelaoXx Yes, I saw your "maths". I believe much is missing, and out of context, making the exact wording you posted somewhat illegible. I would proceed to refute your claim, but as I assume neither of us is an astrophysicist, I will end the conversation here with this:

    We will each research to find the answer we want to see. We will not agree. Thank you for your time, and I hope we can remain civil and peaceful.

  • @fowlfables you choose to believe that? it isn't my maths, although I lay it forth, it is real creationist maths, with it's ground in reality. This guy is taking so many people away from christ and I feel sorry for him when he meets our creator. His strawman arguments are from ignorance and not from the creationists I know about.

  • @xXsakkelaoXx a lot of them are directly from creationists. and by the way, you don't "know" that you're right. for all you know islam could be the truth.

  • @robokill387 Not by looking at evidence no, evidence can leed people to the truth and I KNOW what is around me and what is observed, but yes, there might be some undiscovered religion that fits reality better than the bible, but it's ofcourse "undiscovered"

  • @xXsakkelaoXx Having fun with your invisible buddies? Do they tell you that your the one who is right, be damned the facts?

  • @xXsakkelaoXx wrong. a strawman is a misrepresented version of a person's beliefs, not an argument that "real" creationists don't use, and it also doesn't refer to an actual person, it refers to a type of logical fallacy. so, not only don't you understand what a strawman is, you've actually commited it yourself by misrepresenting the strawman argument fallacy. and on top of that, you've commited the "no true scotsman" fallacy too!

  • @robokill387 You might be right, I don't know, I havn't googled the definition, but from previous arguments "strawman" has been misinterpreting or saying that your counterpart is using an argument he hasn't used and then proceed to discuss why he is wrong.

  • This vid had me laughing 14 seconds in with the moon going around backwards. I can't remember laughing that hard in recent history.

  • I suck at math, but even I know 4 x 3 is 12. That's right--just 12.

    Just did the work on my calculator. Even my trusty calculator says 4 x 3 is 12.

  • @Sapphira79 Can your results be duplicated?

  • @SpookyJohnathan

    Use any calculator near you to multiply 4 X 3 and see what the answer is.  ;)

  • the comment below me is talking abot consuela (the spanish maid from family guy) prety clever joke, i will give him a chuckle for it :D

  • the moon IS the death star... it only got a bit of dust on it after they fired Consuela.

  • @DSkaz89 Haha xD Wish it was true

  • I believe that the death star SUPREME is pulling it with it's tractor beams.

  • This made me laugh soo much!! WARNING CREATIONIST MATH!!!! XD

    <3

  • I loved the to-scale earth+moon visualization, i think i never seen one that would truly be in scale regarding all the sizes and distances, thank you for that :)

  • this was hilarious! thank you so much :D you made by day thunderf00t :)

  • Rather cloudless earth XD

  • I sure wish I could walk/run at 600 MPH and leap over skyscrapers with a single bound, though. :(

  • @MarkDavis94 You didn't really take my previous post serious, did you?

  • @DonMezzo Poe's Law :D

  • Man, that creationist maths bit was fucking hilarious.

  • @EclecticSceptic WARNING!!!! CREATIONIST MATH!!!

  • 0*0=1

    1*1=2

    1*2=34

    2*2=35

    2*3=42

    3*3=9001

    >prove me wrong

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  • @MarkDavis94 Jesus christ, have you never heard of sarcasm?

  • @DonMezzo

    Haha I read this at first and thought "what funky base system is he using to get this", then I realized that you just made up numbers.

  • The Pale Blue Dot - A Tribute to Carl Sagan ( watch?v=KMjEVG2rrFQ ) I think this video really complements the point ThunderF00t is trying to make in this video at 1:45.

  • creationist maths make me lolz.

    i mean, if you accept that the earth is only 6-10 thousand years old, its not a big leap to assume 3X4=1230 .

  • "yup, they multiplied 4 by 3 and got 1,200." Your delivery is brilliant! hahahahahaha! That is going to be my response for all fails.

  • 4.1Billion x 3 = 1.23Trillion or 1230 Billion

    That is the power of God people.

  • @Lashb1ade That made absolutely no sense.

  • @MrAnthonyfilms its humor, he's poking fun at the fact that god (if he does exist (which he doesn't (in my opinion))) can't do maths.

  • @TheAnimeXIII

    I wonder about that.

    What if God played Spore? (pirated, mind you) Obsessively? And he kept the shades closed playing in the dark? Maybe spending a few weeks indoors with pizza rolls and cream soda, creating all manner of works, not knowing how many days went by each time?

    Lack of sleep could explain his antisocial tendencies, like genocide and babykilling. :D

  • @Lashb1ade I don't get it... Explain!

  • @RazorsEdge9K i think hes emphasizing how poorly the creationists fucked up their maths

  • maybe the reflectors are just receding, thats what i thought

  • touch me.

  • hey listen i've so far seen 20 of your videos, most of them great, but on this one you don't make quite a case. you repeated 3 times that creationists can't multiply, but 4,1 billion times 3 is 1230 billions, not 120

  • @gonzaOu

    4.1 billion times 3 is 12.3 billion, dumbass. Whip out a calculator if you don't believe me.

  • @gonzaOu not sure if trolling............ or just stupid.

  • @gonzaOu Are you a retard? it's 4.(point)1 billion you idiot. 4.1x3 is 12.3 ffs

  • @gonzaOu I'm not going to jump on the wagon, I'm just hoping you're trolling...

  • @gonzaOu I'm not going to jump on the wagon, I'm just hoping you're trolling...

  • @gonzaOu No 4.1 billion x 3 is 12.3 billion.

  • If there is a god why is he always asking us for money? You would think a being such as this who created heaven and earth, not to mention the whole universe would have a better grip on his finances.

  • Maybe they are looking at the Earth from the south pole?

  • "The amazing ability of creationists to multiple 3 by 4 and get 1,200 does not constitute a compelling proof of why evolution is flawed." Extremely well put sir.

  • I don't get how the topic of the moon and its orbit relates to evolution... which is more of a biology subject...

  • @chrism4n14 It's an attempt to show that the Earth-moon system is younger than currently thought. If the moon were receding at 3" per year (it isn't) AND if that rate were constant since the beginning (certainly not) then the system is only a few hundreds of millions of years old, not billions.

    This is like saying if the Queen of Sheba had a beard, she'd be the King. And it is of course no help at all to the hapless morons who say the system is only 6 000 years old.

  • Don't forget ! NOT ONE Amputee has ever had a limb grow back!! Why does GOD HATE on the disabled?? We're supposed to be fighting for Christianity,but GOD gives no rewards to the religious that have died due to HOLY WARS.Their have been MILLIONS,upon MILLIONS die for GOD,and God does NOT acknowledge their sacrifice! The only Sacrifice that matters in GODS MIND is MONEY, and killing your child!!

  • @MrAmericanzombie Why does god only punish people with earthquakes if they live on fault lines? I want to see an earthquake :(

  • Why do we refuse to realize that this is a world of SCIENCE! It's been proven over,and over that SCIENCE has much more use here than a religion that's never done ONE thing for thousands of years!! Today we have the Catholic church saying they have 88 confirmed miraclesr(IN THEIR MIND ANYWAYS!! Ppl travel thousands of miles to drink the SUPPOSED HOLY WATER!Since the beginning of the 1900's they've had approx.,9 million people drink,and ONLY 88 MIRACLES?? That's power ball odds of being cured!

  • @MrAmericanzombie The miracles are true! I had Appendicitis, so I went there! It worked!

    Sorry, I forgot to mention that I went to the hospital and had my appendix removed with a machine being controlled by doctors. Also they put me to sleep so I wouldn't have endure the pain. Science.

  • im beginning to feel that religious people are just adults that act like children.

  • I love this :D

  • If only bibles taught math

  • thank you 4 this video :)

  • Of course the creationist would have Pearl Jam, I mean, Fuel, I mean, Daughtry, I mean, Nickelback, I mean, Creed, playing in their video.

  • "whoa, fatal creationist mistake, they have attempted to use numbers." ROFL XD

  • @sexyvalentines Agreed. Plus you mean ROFLWSST (role on floor laughing while somehow still typing) :)

  • being able to multiply 3x4 makes me a hotshot?

  • @dudethatsmyhat I guess so . Feels pretty good doesn't it !? lol

  • tide comes in, tide goes out... Thunderf00t can explain that!

  • Creationist math for the fail

  • no, in that video, the moon is passing over the poles, something it doesn't do. It is not a question of where you are sitting

  • I like your videos but "the moon is orbiting in the wrong direction" ?maybe that's dependent upon where you're sat?

  • The moon orbiting in the wrong direction??

  • @stvnblmr1

    You'll see the "planets spin the wrong direction" arguments grouped with this one. This is because creationists don't understand cosmology. They think the Big Bang was an explosion of rock and the planets and the moon are chunks of this explosion. It would be funny if it wasn't sad.

  • Astrophysics hurts behind my face... lol

  • THumbs up if you 302 view!

  • @AlexRaveloTV HAHAHAHA

  • the creationist math made me laugh so hard

  • lmao with the matrix insert, i love it. bravo. just as i thought, intelligent people are naturally good at comedy. keep making these videos.

  • ...I know I missed something, where did he get the creationist math at 5:17 and on?

  • @NachyoLulz5596

    Wait, nevermind, the 200 factor part, I get it.

  • 3x4=1,200! XD bahahaha

  • @J27Delight I'm quite sane and not a creationist, Just to play devils advocate for a moment, there can be confusion caused by the term Billion.

    Historically:

    10^3 = Thousand

    10^6= million

    10^9 = thousand million

    10^12= billion

    10^15= thousand billion

    10^18= million billion

    10^21= trillion

    In the us system (billion being used in place of thousand million, and trillion being used to replace billion) politicians like this as it sounds more sensational

  • @Therealmiracleworker

    That "historic" system is retarded and there's no excuse for "confusion" except for willful ignorance. Thunderfoot is British himself and doesn't make that mistake. In addition, this mistake isn't made if the makers of the rather childish "Proof Evolution is False" video remained consistent with themselves, so the labels are meaningless.

  • @TheZooCrew FWIW I agree with most of your argument, its a shame the first 5 words let you down so badly. Also for correctness the long hand system is not used so often in Britain any more, its more continental.

  • @Therealmiracleworker Well, wikipedia clears it up.

    en. wikipedia. org/ wiki/ Long_and_ short_scales

    All English countries now use the 10^9 as a billion. Ever since the 70s. America has always. Most of the rest of the anglophone countries followed. Unfortunately creationists have taken a vow to not read any literature published since the 1800s, so they're a bit behind the times. This is how they can likewise say there are no transitional fossils and genetics can't allow speciation.

  • The mind-numbing stupidity contained in this video actually caused some of my less secure brain cells to commit suicide. I'm worse off having watched it.

  • @KingOfWaffles Im sure you had lost all of your braincells, this video just brought few of them back.

  • even if they had perfect calculations it still won't prove crap

  • Question for the creationists. What the fuck does orbital mechanics have to do with evolution anyway!?

  • am i the only one who herd creed?

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  • so how then does 1 + 1 equal window??

  • yay! I learned something. has anyone done the math on the slowing of the earth's rotation to see if the acceleration of the moon matches it?

  • I guess somebody was listening to "One last breath".

  • You sound like Carl Sagan. Especially when you mentioned how far the image was from the earth and moon.

  • well the thing is they multiplied 3x4.1 not just 3x4. that's how they got that answer

  • @DarkLady1313 You are kidding right? 3x4 = 12.

    3x4.1=12.3 NOT 1200!!!!!!!! Please say you were trolling. Please....

  • @yoogeo1 half asleep lol sorry for my bad math

  • to anyone who is interested in the science stuff (like the tidal bit) watch 'sixtysymbols' videos and learn science, theyre not making shit up!

  • good vid thunderfoot. and by the way, those mirrors mentioned at 01:00 are the most definitive proof that we DID land on the moon. you can go at a facility tomorrow and bounce a laser off them. so up yours conspiracy theorists!

  • @whenthesumis41 no God put them there to prove that evolutionists are wrong because only God can go into space and place tiny mirrors on the moon. which he put there...obviously :P (I've been brainwashed)

  • I found an exceptional amount of lulz in this video. I am not wasting my afternoon by watching the first 20 parts of these, I have truly made something of it. Learning is fun. :D

  • whoaaa, pause, fatal creationist mistake, they have attempted to use NUMBERS :O

    lmao xD

  • @diabl2master nope, given the fact that they believe in something equivalent to believing that the distance from new york to san francisco is about 28 feet SHOULD tell you not to believe in ANY numbers they put up. lol

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  • @mxlexrd Heaven is hell. you've been deceived.

  • @mattshark100 He's joking.

  • @remyrabbit Oh well my bad.

  • @mxlexrd You fail at life and thinking for ur self ^^ Your religion thinks for you so you can stay mindles

  • thegreatthunderf00t's response to creationism:

    "Stupidity is not a way of knowing things."

  • why does everything on the moon look like a toy model?

  • So is the moon accelerating in its orbit?

  • Actually, 3x the speed of sound is the speed of a rifle round. Your average Pistol bullet is only a little faster than the speed of sound - a human can easily out run it.

  • Holy crap, the sirens at 5:14 scared the shit out of me.

  • Great video.

    Keep up the good work, open some eyes.

    Too many people are living in a delusion.

    Teaching religious faith to children is a crime against humanity.

    The victims become the perpetrators; when they grow up.

    They really don't know any better, they think they are correct when they spread their ignorant delusions.

  • How does the moon prove anything to do with evolution?! -.-

  • How the hell do they figure that bullets are ineffective weapons? Let me take a gun, fire it, and watch you dodge it. No? I suppose creationists are sensible on the lowest possible level. by the way; even if this was correct, in what way is evolution disproved?

  • @trequor

    It isn't. The first and foremost fault of creationists is their inability to use proper definitions. To them, evolution = physics, cosmology, chemistry, atheism, and maybe a bit of biology.

  • Every human, every nation, every religion lived on that spinning little dot. ???????? Sounds a bit Carl Sagan to me. lol

  • RIP Carl Sagan

    1:50

  • Evolution is a scientific theory, so it is science. but don't be confused, science is not belief or speculation, its not a way of thinking.. it's simply a method. a way of doing things based on evidence,, something creationists know nothing about

  • Creationist don't believe in math, either. BTW, How the fuck is the moon suppose to disprove evolution in any way?

  • @Pagweb

    You're getting at yet another problem with creationists...they don't really understand anything about science. Most of them think evolution somehow involves the Big Bang, the age of Earth, abiogenesis, and heat death. This is dishonest, straw man-type behavior for some, unreal ignorance for others.

  • @TheZooCrew That's right, they think that evolution and "Darwinism" are synonyms for science. And if you try to explain to them that "evolution isn't science" they are going to mine quote the hell out of you.

  • @Pagweb

    Careful. Evolution is absolutely science. There's no such thing as "Darwinism." That word seeks to reduce evolution to a philosophy. It's an extremely robust scientific theory.

  • @TheZooCrew I understand, and I think is sad you fail to understand my point. Anyway, I completely agree with you.

  • @Pagweb

    I understand your point, but no sane person should ever say that evolution isn't science. It didn't seem like you were quoting a creationist when you said that.

  • @TheZooCrew What I try to say is that evolution is not physics, chemistry, or general science. Evolution only deals with diversity of species; but when you try to explain to creationist they misquote you. I know evolution is a scientific fact; but the word evolution doesn't mean science.

  • @Pagweb

    Okay, that clarification makes more sense. The #1 problem with creationists is that they don't understand what they're arguing against. So much for "know thine enemy."

  • @Pagweb so if evolution is not science, what is it ?

  • Being able to string words together into a coherent sentence makes you a "hot shot" by the standards of most creationists.

  • Am I missing something?

    4*3 =/= 1,200, for sure.

    However they multiplied 3*4.1 which is 12.3

    So, that multiplied by 1 billion is 1,230,000,000,000.

    I'm loving these videos, but this caught me a bit off. Don't let contempt and awareness of intellectual superiority get in the way, haha. Hey, if I am missing something, feel free to let me know. I'm only human, and we've all had brain fart moments.

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  • @Linkdouble0zero

    No matter how i count this i get 12.3 * 10^9 = 12,300,000,000 which is 10^2 times less than 1,230,000,000,000.

    And Earth is 4.5 * 10^9 years old.

  • @Linkdouble0zero

    Check your calculator for a Creationist trojan horse.

  • @Linkdouble0zero

    000 = thousand

    000,000 = million

    000,000,000 = billion 3 x 4.1billion = 12.3 billion = 12,300,000,000

    000,000,000,000 = trillion

    000,000,000,000,000 = quadrillion

    Etc

  • Thunderfoot also just owned people that think Man has never been to the moon.

  • vvvvv errr thats an easy one? your dad is wrong