As it approaches: Frequency observed = Frequency of Siren (velocity of air / velocity of air - velocity of truck)
As it leaves: Frequency observed = Frequency of Siren (velocity of air / velocity of air + velocity of truck)
So long as the truck wasn't accelerating in it's motion (velocity was constant), the frequency shift was constant (neither increasing nor decreasing). You can observe this in the video between frequency as it approaches and leaves. The switch is instantaneous. Neat
This also demonstrates the theory of relativity between the truck and the observer. To the driver, a certain amount of time passes in a single cycle of the siren (high followed by low). But because of time dilation, the observer holding the camera first hears a higher frequency followed by a lower one, making it appear that the siren is operating faster when approaching, and slower when evading. Bam, relativity at work in an instant.
Here you go. Watch the video, "Command and Support." This video shows a Q will work, with proper modifications, to a car or a light-duty truck. You need two batteries, a 275-300 amp alternator, and heavy-duty cables to take the Q. But beleive me it's worth the investment once you see passersby covering their ears!!!
Also watch "Federal Q-1b." The guy is operating the Q from a small car. Although it's weak for a Q due to the limited power supply it's still plenty loud.
I have wired three Q's up to trucks in the UK in the past, but never had one myself, look at my video titled "Mersey Fire + Rescue service on a blue light run C Two Tones" of course my recorder dosen't pick the sound up at all, so you can imagine people covering their ears with them. Which video is the one you mention?
You HAVE to get video of the Q's being used on those rigs!!! And to make sure the video gets a ton of hits, put the make of the truck, fire engine, Federal Q siren, and Great Britian into the tags. But that's something I GOT to see!!!
Yes, long time, thats the only time I've everr heard a real one, a beautiful roar and growl. Nothing beats them for a firetruck sound except two tones in Britain
Pitch changes when the waves hit your ear drum at a different rate. If you are in the ocean or a wave pool, and you run towards the ocean lets say you get hit by a wave 10 times per minute. If your already in the ocean running out. You may only get hit 3 times a minute. When the engine in the clip is moving away, you get a lower frequency for the same reason. I hope that helped.
The doppler can also be used to calculate the speed of the sound sorce if you measure the pitch change.
The accurancy is depending of how accurate the speed of sound is known - wich is mostly affected by the air temperature (at normal altitudes). The accurancy in speed measurements is affected by about 1% per (6°C, 11°F) change in temperature.
This truck passed by at 68 km/h (42 mph) (calculated with 10°C, 50°F air temperature)
The Dopplar effect is how PIR detectors work and how bats navigate, they send out a high frequency sound wave and by measuring how long it takes to return from the object it has hit it knows how far that object is away.
To be very accurate bats clich thousands of times a second as they get very close to be even more accurate!
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that the explanation isn't quite spot on. It has nothing to do with how long something takes to return from an object it has hit - that's a transit time measurement. The doppler effect is actually the change in frequency caused by either a moving source or receiver. The fire truck is moving towards you so it sounds at a higher pitch than what happens when it is moving away from you. This is easy to detect because our ears are sensitive to pitch.
@chrisgoding that's not an accurate explanation either. This happens because sounds waves appear longer when our distance to the source of the sound increases. As the fire truck passes by sound waves are compressed thus giving the illusion of a higher pitch, and as it moves away the pitch decreases.
Screams in cartoons are only half-Doppler effects and they go "AAAAAAaaaaaa". "aaaaaAAAAAAaaaaaa" would be more suited to Tarzan passing by swinging on a vine.
i like the sound of these sirens better than any other, it works! its what i remember. i could not find any other videos on utube with the traditional British siren!
Just watched this video in my GeoPhysics class today.
Everybody went "WOAH!"
We watched it again.
YuTe3712 2 months ago
republic poly gt no other videos to show ,so dumb
melikecookie 3 months ago
Very good example!
Spudst3r 5 months ago
As it approaches: Frequency observed = Frequency of Siren (velocity of air / velocity of air - velocity of truck)
As it leaves: Frequency observed = Frequency of Siren (velocity of air / velocity of air + velocity of truck)
So long as the truck wasn't accelerating in it's motion (velocity was constant), the frequency shift was constant (neither increasing nor decreasing). You can observe this in the video between frequency as it approaches and leaves. The switch is instantaneous. Neat
htden 6 months ago
nice example
PumpManufacturers 6 months ago
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TC53227 7 months ago
Aaaahh......don't we all love science?
Lammedreng 8 months ago
Republic poly lead me here
cowcowpingpong 1 year ago 13
@cowcowpingpong typing in 'The Doppler Effect' lead me here
saljooghi1 2 months ago
lol, my prof showed this in physics.
best example ive seen
MistryWho 1 year ago
This also demonstrates the theory of relativity between the truck and the observer. To the driver, a certain amount of time passes in a single cycle of the siren (high followed by low). But because of time dilation, the observer holding the camera first hears a higher frequency followed by a lower one, making it appear that the siren is operating faster when approaching, and slower when evading. Bam, relativity at work in an instant.
Crashdance22 1 year ago
this is cool, never herd about doppler effect before (im not a science kid), and i like it a lot,very interesting :)
psylover1991 1 year ago
Excellent, thanks for posting!!
voicetube 1 year ago
Niii Nooo Niii NOooo Niii NOOO niii NoooOo Niii Nioouuu Nooo Nooou Noooo Noooou....
desmodronic916 1 year ago 4
why doesnt anyone else use those sirens anymore
16goarmy 1 year ago
@16goarmy Cornwall FRS still do, same truck too!
ImRatherTall 1 year ago
that's so cool!
cedarpaw23 1 year ago
Nice DopplerEffect.We can enjoy DopplerEffect everywhere on this planet.It's wonderful,isn't it
alexanderbrowning 1 year ago
this most be the funniest sound in the world
fjanton83 1 year ago
@fjanton83 lmfaooooo
ladiestreat27 1 year ago
Nice. Pretty old firetruck you got there :p
KooKas2oo8 1 year ago
Very nice example, it really highlights the change in frequency. :)
sool32 1 year ago
nice example
fcofelixx 2 years ago
the
seeebitaaaxproo 2 years ago
does anyone no the name of this siren the london fire brigade uses?
scorpia12345 2 years ago
"Fiamm"?
hz6761 2 years ago
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hz6761 2 years ago
klaxons?
Asphalion80 2 years ago
just a bog standard two tone aire horn
phenomanam 2 years ago
Check The Colour Of 'Grampian Fire & Rescue' vehices based in Aberdeen City!
PULSE88 2 years ago
norfolk fire engines only have this style of siren thease days
wiskenc 3 years ago 3
Actually Oxfordshire Fire & Rescue use them to!
KieranClarke999 3 years ago
Hong Kong have this siren, too
(But only used in late 70's to 2001)
hz6761 3 years ago
And Devon and Cornwall FB do to, theres one in falmouth, on an old merc!
jamiehn123 2 years ago
@wiskenc And North wales
traintimmy 1 year ago
@wiskenc and cornwall with thier old merc!
ImRatherTall 1 year ago
This vehicle must be really old. I hope all emergency vehicles in Britain use this siren again. They shouldn't use the American wail, yelp and pier.
CDPDPatrolUnit 3 years ago 2
What's your opinion of the Federal Q mechanical siren as far as using it on British fire apparatus? I'm curious.
fanoseagrave 3 years ago
I won't mind having a Q on my response car, although I'd stick with Two Tones on fire engines.
55cifi 3 years ago
Here you go. Watch the video, "Command and Support." This video shows a Q will work, with proper modifications, to a car or a light-duty truck. You need two batteries, a 275-300 amp alternator, and heavy-duty cables to take the Q. But beleive me it's worth the investment once you see passersby covering their ears!!!
fanoseagrave 3 years ago
Also watch "Federal Q-1b." The guy is operating the Q from a small car. Although it's weak for a Q due to the limited power supply it's still plenty loud.
fanoseagrave 3 years ago
I have wired three Q's up to trucks in the UK in the past, but never had one myself, look at my video titled "Mersey Fire + Rescue service on a blue light run C Two Tones" of course my recorder dosen't pick the sound up at all, so you can imagine people covering their ears with them. Which video is the one you mention?
55cifi 3 years ago
Got it, thats a pretty good sound, dosen't suit the SUV, but sounds sweet
55cifi 3 years ago
You HAVE to get video of the Q's being used on those rigs!!! And to make sure the video gets a ton of hits, put the make of the truck, fire engine, Federal Q siren, and Great Britian into the tags. But that's something I GOT to see!!!
fanoseagrave 3 years ago
I would do, but this was over 30 years ago ! ! !
55cifi 3 years ago
WOW!! THAT long ago??
fanoseagrave 3 years ago
Yes, long time, thats the only time I've everr heard a real one, a beautiful roar and growl. Nothing beats them for a firetruck sound except two tones in Britain
55cifi 3 years ago 2
haha now that is soooo coool
fikle 4 years ago
cool....i dont understand the explanations but i think i got it from this video
bruno666666 4 years ago
Pitch changes when the waves hit your ear drum at a different rate. If you are in the ocean or a wave pool, and you run towards the ocean lets say you get hit by a wave 10 times per minute. If your already in the ocean running out. You may only get hit 3 times a minute. When the engine in the clip is moving away, you get a lower frequency for the same reason. I hope that helped.
mattmgmhs 4 years ago
The doppler can also be used to calculate the speed of the sound sorce if you measure the pitch change.
The accurancy is depending of how accurate the speed of sound is known - wich is mostly affected by the air temperature (at normal altitudes). The accurancy in speed measurements is affected by about 1% per (6°C, 11°F) change in temperature.
This truck passed by at 68 km/h (42 mph) (calculated with 10°C, 50°F air temperature)
C20rules 4 years ago
The Dopplar effect is how PIR detectors work and how bats navigate, they send out a high frequency sound wave and by measuring how long it takes to return from the object it has hit it knows how far that object is away.
To be very accurate bats clich thousands of times a second as they get very close to be even more accurate!
billybingo2006 4 years ago
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that the explanation isn't quite spot on. It has nothing to do with how long something takes to return from an object it has hit - that's a transit time measurement. The doppler effect is actually the change in frequency caused by either a moving source or receiver. The fire truck is moving towards you so it sounds at a higher pitch than what happens when it is moving away from you. This is easy to detect because our ears are sensitive to pitch.
chrisgoding 3 years ago 17
@chrisgoding that's not an accurate explanation either. This happens because sounds waves appear longer when our distance to the source of the sound increases. As the fire truck passes by sound waves are compressed thus giving the illusion of a higher pitch, and as it moves away the pitch decreases.
it's all relativity baby
4dndf91 9 months ago
Thanks for the explanation emopope
nmfd72 4 years ago
What in GOD's name is the doppler effect??
nmfd72 4 years ago
Its just how sound waves work, when something comes up on you then leaves you.
emopope 4 years ago
Kinda like in cartoons when you see the guy falling he goes "aaaaaAAAAAAaaaaaa"
Surtur 4 years ago
Screams in cartoons are only half-Doppler effects and they go "AAAAAAaaaaaa". "aaaaaAAAAAAaaaaaa" would be more suited to Tarzan passing by swinging on a vine.
kirkorka 4 years ago
Before anyone jumps: there is no such thing as "half-Doppler".
kirkorka 4 years ago
I'm talkin' when you hear the guy falling and look up and he goes falling past you yelling ;)
Surtur 4 years ago
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it's nerd math. Don't bother you communist.
FreddoX1 4 years ago
its non-american brain reality
NIGHTMAREuki 4 years ago
i like the sound of these sirens better than any other, it works! its what i remember. i could not find any other videos on utube with the traditional British siren!
67genxer 4 years ago
This was very helpful is explaining the Doppler Effect to my 5 year old. Thank you.
dmcbride601 4 years ago