Leader Hoyer on the Hate Crimes Prevention Act

[glenns45]

Obidience to tyrannts is disobidience to God. Quote from Thomas Jefferson. Fuck the socialist Bastards!

[achilies45]

HATE CRIMES ARE THE MOST RETARDED THING ANYONE HAS COME UP WITH. as an American i have the right to say or think anything i want to. yes of course its wrong to act on it by threatning or harming. I am a christian though. I wouldnt say things that are dirty to say but i do have the right to say anything i want to. These idiots are trying to take that away

[BrandonRichardNY]

crime is crime is crime. you cannot be convicted of a hate crime unless a violent act has taken place. free speech is not being violated but you cannot assault or threaten to assault someone just because you don't like who they are.

[luco1488]

Well thats not what these politicians seem to be implying. They seem to be saying that if say you had bad thoughts about someone when you commit a crime then you will be charged more heavily.

[luco1488]

This law sounds like something coming out of the Soviet Union. Prosecuting people for what they think...

[SIUltimate]

they arnt prosecuting people for what they think. This is the US, you can hate who you want. you cant beat and kill who you want tho.

[jsxdude]

Thank god for veto power,time to veto bush.The dems are so stupid, they want to raise a white flag and run from terrorism but take care of their fags,which is their base. how did these worthless fuckups get elected

[MjoEm32]

Probably by appealing to people rather more intelligent than you...

[admiron1]

This kind of Hate Crime Legislation doesn't really spell out what would be considered a hate crime and that is dangerous. I do hope that Bush vetoes it cuz if it passes and, again, doesn't give specifics regarding a hate crime, anything can be considered a hate crime. A minister preaching on sexual immorality and speaks of homosexuality as being sexually immoral could be brought up on hate crime charges. So, I hope that Bush kills it.

[Goadhatesmyspace]

Actually when this happens it is up to the executive branch to clearify. Plus look up Executive orders and article two of the constition. Bush can do more than veto.

[dsc999]

That is a lie. The bill specificly states, in clear unambiguous words, that nothing in that law applies to speech. Look it up.

[Lance734]

Admiron1, please make sure U R educated about the bill b4 U condemn it. The bill says that a hate crime is a violent act committed against some1 b/c of the victim's identity (i.e. race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc.). In your scenario the minister CANNOT be charged with a hate crime b/c there has been no violent action on his part. Thoughts & speech are NOT hate crimes.

[darcytirsia]

1) The hatred is towards anyone who doesn't endorse and accept the homosexual lifestyle.

2) If you go to the website "Gay facts" you will see that the average life span of a male homosexual is 35.7 years with AIDS and 45 years old without AIDS.

3) We are banning smoking and transfats because it is a danger to our health, yet Liberals endorse a lifestyle that kills.

4) This bill sounds so good, and is nothing but a lie.

[Goadhatesmyspace]

1) Hate Crimes go both ways, if someone attack you because you are stright will be charged

2) That website and stat is a load of crap

3) Being Gay doesn't kill you or spread AIDS anymore than being a herteosexual

4) You are a bigot who needs to spread hate against a group differnet from you

[MjoEm32]

Right on every point - insofar as they were really "points" in the first place.

[dsc999]

Oh Please. I am only going to address point two. First, some backround. I majored in math and currently teach statistics. Second, the statistic cited by that website is totally bogus. It comes from a 'study' of obituaries of openly gay people back in the mid 1980's. Since being openly gay wasn't all that common back in the 1940's and 1950's the people listed in those obits were largely young.

[KujoAAR]

"(Lynching... Segregation... Slavery...) rationalized for 'faith' based reasons."

(D) Rep. Hoyer

Excellent point!

[mbbeasle]

hats off to majority leader hoyer!

[MRFBluth]

Are all his speaches like this? If so, he's a bad speaker.