To call Iran, Iraq and North Korea an, "Axis of Evil", is incorrect because they are not by definition an axis. An axis is a group of countries that have willingly formed an alliance with each other, and will eventually come together to form a larger nation, like the Axis of Germany, Italy and Japan in WWII. But if I am not mistaken, Iran and Iraq fought a war with each other. And neither nation had any explicit alliance with North Korea. These politicians get it all wrong.
The only problem is that you can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.
america did not win the ww2. russians where kicking german ass. i know this bechose russians where our enemies. UK was still an empire, shadow of its former self, yes. but still and empire. Americans helped a lot, but even if americans had joined for the very start of the war it whuld have had very little difrence in the fall of france. german army was very good. when americans and germans first met at kassarine pass. germans inflicted one of the worst routs of the war on americans.
america needs to stop being the global policeman. when a problem starts in a country, america needs to just leave it alone. just stop and think maybe it will be ok. just for once don't go to a war. the rest of the world dislikes you because if something happens america could be in as a problemsolver
Gingrich is right. Kim Jong Il is the most brutal dictator in the modern world, even worse than Sadaam Hussein was. America's inaction is shameful. the US has the military and technical capability to topple the dictatorship, bring Kim Jong Il to the ICC where he belongs and liberate north Korea from communism. and what are we doing? nothing. why? because we're billions of $ in debt to NK's strongest ally- Hu Jintao's communist regime in China.
Eisenhower's Farewell Speech warned of the undue influence of the growing Military-Industrial Complex. You guys are just now complaining about the fulfillment of this fifty year old prophecy.
The job of most Republican/Conservative politicians and commentators is to legitimize the outrageous expenditures wasted on bloated military, law enforcement and prison spending. One characteristic they all have in common is FEAR - the objective of true TERRORISTS!
Gingrich and his cronies made it clear, no war is too big for the West if it means domination over the Arab world. He argues that all that stands between the West and the Arab world is Iran, and the US is ready to exercise military muscle. Several Arab countries have already joined the Western/Israeli takeover, the que...stion is, which countries will stay loyal to their people?
I´m from Germany. I think the USA is a modern-nazi-country. You know if some priests beginn to burn korans in public, then somethin is wrong there. I wish ur country a destroying desaster that u gonna beg for some food at the muslims.
More media bullshit, we all know the media is influenced by governments, dumb fucks, we figured it out, we proved it, fuk the media, respect to this guy. ISLAM MUST BE DESTOYED!
This Turk guy has brains for shit. This motherfucker probably got his ass kicked many times back in school. This cocksucker is the typical liberal. Stupid brainless cocksucker.
If you want to reduce defense spending and stop endless wars for the military industrial complex so that no more people get killed....................you hate the troops
If you are against unconstitutional warrantless wiretaps and torture................You hate freedom
If you question/criticize the (republican) president......................You hate America
I'm sorry but who is the expert here on foreign affairs, Gingrich or this amateur news guy? I think I tend to take Gingrich a wee bit more seriously lol! What a joke!
@mythicalhell Thats because you can't even see though the fog of bullshit. This guy is a fucking radical whacko, Iran is not evil.... if you listen to Cenk's points, he dominates Gingrich. Iran, Iraq, and North Korea are not allies, they never have been, and if we keep attacking people, they will. And your argument is like saying "George Bush can't be wrong because of his experience, if the person arguing with him is inexperienced". The neocons fight agaisnt American values, and you eat it up.
@mythicalhell Hey, they were gonna build the new Tim Horton's next to my condo, but then some goober from the town council decided that it was going to be a hot dog garden, so I named it Grundle, after my goldfish.
@mythicalhell So you would rather have an 'expert' tell you lies and propaganda then a non expert tell you facts and evidence? What makes you think Cenk isn't qualified to speak on the subject?
Hopefully just a theory, but any1 else think at 0:34, he purposely "subliminally" seig heil'd. Sorta think Palin has done it when she said Isreal. Also McCain did, he noticed himself, and closed his hand, and fist bumptd the air. Check out either Subliminal or subtle hand jestures for Palin..It's one of the 2 words. Can't remember for McCain, but he was on a stage, looking old, and speaking. That should narrow it down. Hopefully just a theory, but Republican-Conservative-wanting white votes?
HAHA bush had a well thought out plan for Iraq. Those ideas most be like them wmd that were there but disappeared when they where suppose to be found.
Yeah there was no real violence or real tension at all, just over look the Korean war ,the chinese civil war,Hungarian Revolution, Cuban Missile Crisis, Afghanistan war, Berlin Blockade, Berlin Crisis of 1961, Vietnam War,the Able Archer 83 NATO exercises in November 1983, the nuclear arms race(they almost pushed the button several times on both sides.) ,and the Czechoslovak coup d'état(we already about broke with 8 years i don't think we can last another 36 years worth of wars)
If N. Korea threw every nuke it has at us, Every state would still be there, and we would be able to retaliate with more than enough force to destroy the entire planet
They spend billions in war, and THE money they could spend rather on other things...
But it's that anti-communism, capitalistic view that continues from 1900 till now, hate grew and grew, and now they have wars... Stupid capitalists...
Please be realistic, communism isnt even that bad if you think so.
The communism that the Russian made was a bad way, but it can be better, like marx' theory about socialism. That would be the best thing. But this is human! If you give someone power, that person will use that power for his own needs and his own likes. And the communistic system failed because of capitalism! I dont say thats a bad thing, but they just are busy in a too economic way! look at BP, Shell and so on!
REALISTICALLY, the just show me a awesome Soviet auto, motorcycle, Fashion, watch, anything you take for granted was impossible because of what? Capitalism? Ok...
yeah I know that their stuff is not modern and really nice. And of course capitalism is not the only reason. Russia just failed with the economical plans that the plan office made. It became too complex! But the capitalism made that their development seemed underdeveloped. If there wouldnt be that awesome stuff now, communistic stuff would be great right now! Ok, development would go much slower, but is that worse? See the impact now of the fast growing world. Happy? No.
I am so mortified to speak to people like you, I believe you to be a danger to me and my family.
I'm not just talking about "stuff" that's cool, I'm talking about innovation in sciences, medicine, agriculture, communications. All things that have made the world greater place for much more people than could ever have been possible under Communism.
Each sovereign nation state must find a solution for today's problems, not the soviet.
oh yeah, who is the danger here? Sorry but please stay polite ok:)
but ok. You don't want to, I will stay correct;)
I agree with the situation now, and I don't want communism back, really not! Now it would not work anymore, or it would take a super long time... But that is wasted time. And I have to agree with you, the sovereign states should find solutions. But I just state my opinion about where the problem comes from... understand?:)
It sounds like Gingrich thinks that Truman made the correct choice for dropping the A-bomb. According to history, Truman said that he did not take in the full scope of dropping the A-bomb. Basically, Truman had regrets about dropping the A-bomb.
@sholmesful Without it, we could've still won the war. We would have lost many more troops, but President Truman ordered the drop with much pain in his heart. No one could have know two A-bombs would have that kind of effect. Now we know, and even with our vast amounts of nukes, we're afraid of N. Korea and Iran
@sholmesful not any life, american lives. when the bombs dropped, they killed thousands of Japenese. so many lives were lost from that bomb, maybe less than if we haden't dropped it, maybe more. we can't know. we never will. so whereas i cannot prove it, i like to think we saved more lives than ended with the A-bomb.
Don't spend too long thinking about the maybe part! I think it's important to remember that a weapon-of -mass-destruction can only be used for one thing. Wm D's don't create peace, end war(s), save lives, make good politicians, or change the time stream.
@LoneStarEvent "No one could have know two A-bombs would have that kind of effect." The second bomb were dropped three days after the first one. We had a pretty good idea on how the second one would look like.
Truman did make a decision that Gingrich seems to think saved us from the commies, that in reality did little to change the world. TYT wrongly assumed he meant the nuke decision, when in reality, it was the decision to get involved with the Korean War. What makes this even stupider for the Republicans is that Truman also made the decision to not go to war against China, using nukes and starting World War III, which is what the Republicans proposed at the time. So much for not backing down.
Neocons, as teenagers, were those annoying twerps that incessantly ask pretty girls for a date, keep getting turned down, and they keep coming back for more. Somebody bitch-slap that Newt!
@videosfromderelix "Evil is necessary for change". That is an idea put forth by CS Lewis (of "Chronicles of Narnia" fame) in his book "The Screwtape Letters". It's a quick read with a unique perspective (from the POV of two demons from Hell). Wormwood and Screwtape live in a peculiarly morally reversed world, where individual benefit and greed are seen as the greatest good, and neither demon is capable of comprehending or acknowledging true human virtue when he sees it.
Bush was right about the Axis of Evil? Gingrich is so full of shit. If Iran was so bad why the fuck didn't bush do anything when Ahmadinejad showed up in the United States? Ahmadinejad spoke in front of the UN a couple times, even talked in front of a university audience. Why did they arrest the President of one of the Axis of evil? Bush was so scared of this guy he wouldn't even talk to him. Gingrich, Bush, and the rest of the Republicans are a bunch of chicken hawk bitches.
Gingrich is a globalist tool of the establishment...anyone who likes him is a moron who may as well vote for Bush again in 2012. Mark my words...the republican establishment shills are going to have this mans back in 2012. Ladies and gentleman you may be looking at our future leader, he has all the qualifications....he's a 33 degree mason, he's a CFR member, he's a Bohemian Grove attendee, he's pro war, and he's a coward who should fight his own bullshit globalist wars!
NK wouldnt do shit if SK and NATO was to enter NK. If they send a single nuke we will obliterate the country... The whole country would have a nice glass floor.
The young jerks are at it again. If anyone believes that the Muslims want peace with America, I pity your ignorance. If you believe they are your soulmates, please, take a year and go live amoungst them.
There's a problem when the US sound far more menacing to the rest of the world than Iran ever would. A very big problem. Politicians like Gingrich ceaselessly say they're looking for the new Hitlers of our time, to go kick their asses. Sounds like the only ones that are goosestepping and constantly rattling swords here are Gingrich and his crowd.
How does "America is the greatest country on the planet" sounds in German, oh yeah... "Amerika uber alles".
Awww, Cenk, you were Kicking ASS until you got to Truman. Li'l Newt was referring to the the Korean War with Truman, not WWII !! Now, how the hell can I share this clip?
@MarquisdeBarrabas ... as demonstrated by none other than Newt Gingrich himself, who avoided Vietnam with a series of bogus military deferments. He even married one of his teachers to avoid the draft. Later on, she was suffering with breast cancer, and he announced he was divorcing her - while she was in the hospital bed, recovering from cancer surgery. Mr. Gingrich is a real piece of work...
why make more war on muslims? we fight evil peoples who take our countries.we know Presidnet Hussien Obama to do right and be good. He too make all muslims free and not be killed and slave to americans.all muslims would be good for all.
Well we need to deal with the evil of islam in some way. I suspect that talking will not be enough. I have a feeling I will die by the hand of a muslim one day because I won't be able to shut up.
@videosfromderelix "And we still wouldn't have electricity if we never had war.
We wouldn't have a need to invent these things if we didn't have competition."
Uhhh, no. In year 1816 First energy utility in US founded. In 1890, people had telephones.ATT was officially created the March 3rd 1885! The war didn't create these systems. And the government funded the construction of the infrastructure for electricity. By the way, nice red herring.
@Darkconis And you think that the invention of those devices was in no way related to making more money and power than somebody else?
Your just going to keep throwing out inventions and claiming it had nothing to do with war. I'm not talking about war with just tanks and soldiers, I'm talking about all war, including the wars right here. The fact is (a fact you keep trying to prove wrong but fail on every attempt) all inventions are inventions of war or evil.
@videosfromderelix "BTW Edison actually got the electricity thing going because he was able to scare people away from tesla's design.
Maybe it wasn't the same as bombs and guns but it was competition."
Tesla was a much better engineer than Edison could have ever dreamed of being. It wasn't competition. Edison scared people by electrocuting dogs with AC current, and saying DC couldn't kill them. But DC current CAN kill. Competition by fraud and deception.
@Darkconis In other words, it was a competition. Your statement makes no sense, obviously Tesla was a better engineer, everybody who researched the subject knows Edison ran a smear campaign against Tesla's design, in other words, terrorism. How is that not competition?
@videosfromderelix Had we went with tesla's designs in the first place, we would have saved thousands of dollars in infrastructure costs. Charisma and misinformation won over intelligence, and you call it competition. I call it retarded. But you are right about the NASA. NASA was founded for the race to space. And Russia fell because of it's massive spending. Putting millions of Russian citizens in poverty for decades. We don't need competition to do things. Look at the LHC.
@Darkconis So first you call me an idiot and claim that nasa had nothing to do with competition or war, now you admit it does but you still say I'm wrong.
This is pointless, you keep agreeing with me whenever i prove you wrong but you never want to admit that you were wrong.
Yes I realize that the world would be better, maybe if Tesla was more competitive and started countering Edison's terrorism with his own, his design would have been the majorly accepted one.
@videosfromderelix You miss the point. His design is now the majorly accepted one. But such competition hindered our advancement. Why should Tesla have to resort to the same bullshit edison did? It would have taken time from his experiments and designs. This whole system is filled with such pointless bullshit, instead of focusing on what's important. From the human condition, to the environment, to technological advancement, capitalism has failed. It's in the history books.
@Darkconis What point did i miss? You just changed the fucking subject. I never said tesla wasn't superior, i never said anything about capitalism being the perfect system. I proved you wrong on every turn so your just changing the subject because you don't want to admit it.
All i said is all technological advancements are attributed to war or competition. There would be no advancements if there was no reason to mass produce them for money. Never said it was perfect, that's just reality.
@videosfromderelix "All i said is all technological advancements are attributed to war or competition" This is your claim."Why should Tesla have to resort to the same bullshit edison did? It would have taken time from his experiments and designs" Is my answer. How much clearer can I be on the point you missed. To make games for such stupid stuff as competition and war unfocuses science. And then science begins to lean to agenda and not discovery. Next you'll say CERN is all about competition
@Darkconis Try to understand this instead of blindly defending your close minded view of the world, you just proved my point. Tesla chose not to resort to Edison's tactics so people saw Edison's design as the better one. Don't you think Tesla would have been better off if he chose to compete and prove Edison wrong?
I already proved several of your points wrong and you want to keep throwing in random things and saying they are unrelated to competition. It's getting childish.
@videosfromderelix "And we still wouldn't have electricity if we never had war." Your really not the stupid are you? Do you even know what century the electrical infrastructure was built? Long before WW1. Just stop, your making yourself like dumb. And I don't honestly think your are stupid.
@Darkconis Try to keep this in mind, i never said electricity was the direct result of world war 1. I'm saying things like electricity are the direct result of a conflict of some kind. Don't believe me? You wouldn't be living in this country to begin with if we hadn't slaughtered the people who originally lived here.
@videosfromderelix That "no electricity without war" is unlikely. Minneapolis had an electric streetcar system rolling in the 1880's. Powerful carbon arc streetlamps went into service in the mid 1870's and were commonplace worldwide by 1890. AFAIK neither technology was driven by military interests.
He must have a cartoon image of a war in his mind because it is fucked up how our troops over seas are dying over these bullshit politicians and ones who are out of office and still pushing shit at the press just for political gain.
north korea,Iran or anyother nation developing nuclear bomb are smart enough to know if they attack another country with nuclear bombs just because they now have one or even 20 bombs, that on the way to their country there will be 100 or more nuclear bombs to destroy their hole country. my opinion is they have them or want them the same way we do is for protection defence. I would not like some other country coming over telling my country what It can have or not for protection
Someone needs to edit that video of Gingrich and put the "FUCK YEAH!" from Team America in.... WHY ARE YOU STILL READING THIS? WHY ARE YOU NOT WORKING ON THAT YET!?! GO-GO-GO-GO-GO!
Something I should point out: if we attack North Korea, not only will be endangering South Korea, but the entirety of the area there. Do we REALLY want to endanger Japan and China because of a lunatic who attacked an orderly country because of a "brutal dictator" who, I should point out, managed to keep three groups of people who were at each other's throats in a mild amount of peace? Can we afford ANOTHER brutal war in the streets of a foreign country? Ask our current vets how they like that.
I nominate Newt Gingrich to take his rich, fat ass to North Korea, Iraq and Iran to give his life like the poor and middle class soldiers who are there now. Git 'er done Newt you P.O.S.
North Korea doesn't have the money to maintain a war and south korea has plenty of money to maintain a war. North Korea would be dumb to start trouble they could easily be wiped off the map. USA took over the Iraqi government in 2 weeks and we have been policing them for 7 years. USA spends more on military spending than the entire world combined and we have the most technologically advanced air force in the world. Don't be stupid North korea you broke ass punks.
The military is where the uneducated PEASANTS go to die to secure the profits of the rich at the cost of our tax dollars, infrastructure, and increasingly discraceful world image. Stop commiting treason to your own country folks, refuse to go to war unless its for an actual reason.
@LoneStarEvent well no, that pretty much makes up anyone who agrees to march off to ther deaths for theese guy's buisness intrests. I have 0 respect for anyone who would sell our country out, including those who would die to do so.
@holysnake9 the ones that march out are either mislead kids or they have been in the military for years. they are doing what they think is right and honorable, and that deserves some respect. Though i do agree that we should stay out of wars unless our freedom is directly involved
@kenwatch77 I'm with you. I love how these chickenhawks are always so quick to push for war (as it fills the pockets of those in the military complex, and those companies that make big TOYS for the war machine). I want to see those war-hungry politicians send their children to go to war, maybe then there will be more personally at stake for them, and they'll heavily consider whether the wars they call for are necessary. It's always so easy to send off poor people to fight.
@mitwalga You must be scared. You probably cry war, but wouldn't have the sack to ever go. I'm not poor. I thought us blacks became rich all of a sudden, and whites were the victims now lol. Stfu stupid bitch.
There is no "Axis if Evil", it doesn't exist. This is where either a: ignorance gets your or b: manipulation. And to Genie0390, where have you been? North Korea now has enough material for 9 missles, of which testing started in 2006 that has three resolutions by the UN against them.
I don't get Newt. I hated him back when he was large and in charge, but back before the election in 2008 he said some great, level-headed stuff about how fucked up the national election system is. And ever since, he's been talking shit again.
War and peace are ying and yang. War can be a necessary tool sometimes.
War, by definition, happens when men fight. But is all fight a bad fight? Will you fight for anything? if so, where, exactly, do you put the line between worth fighting for and not..?
Step out of your campus, see a child burned alive. Then lecture people whether they should fight or not.
Stop being a little kid with your gov. conspiracy theories. in the end they're the ones who will defend your life if need arises.
Children suffer in this country too. How many here die from the lack of affordable care?
Aside from that I believe in wars that truly are about the defending our freedom. I believe in the American Revolution, and I believe in the righteousness of the Civil War.
I simply subscribe to the old saying that "America doesn't go about in search of Dragons to slay". because then at that point, war is all there is. You seem to think that America should fight forever & for any reason.
People don't know why Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. American oil companies were drilling horizontally into Iraq, literally stealing Iraqi oil. American interests? Just a bunch of liars, thieves and murderers: that's all we've become. Hey, just look at the number of military bases we have in the majority of the world's countries. Are we there for them? or us? The last Imperialist is America, and every imperialist winds up crushed and defeated. Its time to turn it around and save the USA legally.
Gingrich: just another 1st degree murderer whose paid tens of thousands of dollars to run his mouth. Is there a bloodbath taking place between us and Iran or N. Korea? No. The Civil War and World War II were steeped in bloodshed. In Iraq, America has the blood of a million+ civilians on its hands. And Bush claims Christ as Savior? Two things the Bible demands: be a man of your word, and never shed innocent blood. Did Bush meet this criteria? How about Obama? These men are unfit to lead anyone.
Newt Gingrich is wrong about everything he said. First of all he cannot talk about "axxis of evil", comparing Iran, Iraq and N. Korea to Nazi Germany and Japan? Newt, I don't mean to burst your bubble, but none of these 3 nations invaded anyone (besides Iraq's pathetic attempt in Kuwait 20 years ago).
They're being an axis isn't made up. Syria tried to build a nuclear reactor based on n.korean plans. iran and syria are constantly reaffirming how good they're relations are getting.
War against Iran will be totally diff. from what u got in Iraq. The Iranian people wants the gov. removed.. civs. are being killed over there for protesting against the gov.
I'm terribly sorry if it seems I'm dealing with matters not for me but the crap this presenter is saying is, well. just his own crappy opinion
What would be the big deal in Syria having a nuclear reactor? Nothing personal but your war talk is insane. We've already tolerated Pakistan having nukes & it is more closer than any other country to be being taken over by Islamic Militants.
We haven't even paid for the wars/conflicts that we have now, because Bush 2 felt the wealthy doesn't need to sacrifice, but you & ol' Newt to start ANOTHER WAR? Let me revisit my first opinion: YOU-ARE-CRAZY...Forget being nice on this one.
@willia3r I'm not telling you what you should do with your money. Come, stay at my "Crazy" place for a week. Come with me to the missile shelter when we're fired at. then we can watch the news together and listen to Syrian president Mr. Assad saying: "Israel should get ready to war.. We have not, have not given any missiles to Hezbollah fighters.."
and then you can tell me: Eitan, "What would be the big deal in Syria having a nuclear reactor?" meantime while you're thousands of miles away, don't
People like you live for war. You can't live a life like that. Is there ever any room in your mind for peace?
The irony on Iran is that this "Islamic Revolution" would never have taken had place America & the CIA not overthrew Democratically elected Iranian Prime Minister Mossadegh in the 1950's. Guys like you back then felt that Iran had no right to nationlize its own oil.
So I guess the "hate & greed" cycle will continue once again. God bless.
@willia3r Well. If you say I live for war, than you must be right. I "liked" hearing my 1st girlfriend calling me while big assed stones are being thrown at her by people like me. I "loved" getting of my daily bus just one stop before it blew up and sent my neighbours into bleeding chunks of meat on the sidewalk. I "really enjoyed" ppl like my best friend dying in a Hezbollah ambush up northern Israel.
But most of all I just "adore" assholz like you giving me crap about me being warlike. asshol
@willia3r So, all of a sudden you feel like being "nice on this"? Let me tell you something. really, what I say comes from a very deep place within me.
Your life is good. it's not only good, it's great. You are part of a world that forgot about why war can sometimes be necessary. you remind me of north europeans that are "sick" of war and keep condemning all events of war worldwide. I'm telling you, if one day, an enemy INVADES, you won't be part of a public that condems without fully understan-
Me being "nice"? Hardly. I was trying to bring the discourse down from "overly partisan madhouse" level, to "let's have nice scholarly unemotional debate" level. It seems you are more interested in the former than the latter.
Whatever neo-conservative "the-sky is falling" kool-aid you are drinking it seems you believe it whole-heartedly & is unwilling to acknowledge any facts that incovenience the taste of that kool-aid. Sad that there are too many people like you in power.
@MarquisdeBarrabas It appears, peace activists as well as rubber ducks are uncapable of theoretical thought. what diff. does it make who invades? You act all pretty about these issues. Those who deny the need of defense are idiots.
I hope some of the more "enlightened" parts of the world gets invaded, by monsters for all I care, just for them to remember what a father for a family must do when his daughters life is in danger.
Also, not all gens. are corrupt-cartoonlike-warmongers. grow up
@willia3r No country ever had any rights at all from my standpoint. Nationalizing oil fields is enough to call for a CIA-backed dictator to take over. Where we failed is when we didnt fucked the country up when they took the embassy. We should have carpet bombed every single major city in Iran.
@willia3r Yes exactly the U.S. installed the Shaw in 53 and the reaction to that was the taking of our hostages in the late 70's then arms for hostages under Reagan which were used against Iraq in the 80's so The U.S. started supplying Saddam with weapons to fight the Iranians who were also armed by the U.S. then Iraq goes into Kwait in the 90's using weapons we gave them we send our soilders in. Then in 03'' we invade Iraq supposedly promoting Democracy how can people igore such flawed policy?
@eshvartz Actually, civilians are being killed all over the world, it doesn't mean we have to go and make a war. And we have no right to go and kill more of their civilians because we want to bring our "democracy". Why would we want more wars to begin with? Is easy for someone to support a war, when they aren't the ones fighting or losing their relatives to. No young man should die to protect national interest. of the elite.
@justmeyep14 Actually and unfortunately I have been a soldier, I have been through war, I do have relatives who died in the hands of extremists. I'm not saying a new war should be fought. I am saying 'If he's aiming a gun at your face, no matter how big or how small a gun that is, shoot first' and I'm not the cowboy, macho type while we're at shootin'.. The USA is great because it offers civs freedom instead of oppression. It also helps defend freedom for other, non americans. like Israelis :)
"The USA is great because it offers civs freedom instead of oppression."
Not always. Especially when Corporate interests are involved. Operation Ajax is one good example. Another example was the blockade of Haiti when that country freed itself from France's slavery. Yet another example was our support for dead Chilean General Augsto Pinochet when he "disappeared" over 15,000 political activists.
You really, REALLY need to stop drinking the kool-aid.
If America was interested in defending freedom they would have supported Palestine. You know, the land your people have invaded and are now illegally colonizing.
The American government wants oil and political control over the world. In their world view people are only free to obey the US. When they choose otherwise they are dangerous terrorist supporters and probably commies too.
@eco4321 Israel was legally created by UN resolution, in case you haven't heard. please tell me how can the hebrews invade Jerusalem? or maybe its not king David who built it. Maybe its king muhamad who built Jerusalem.
You actually managed to put in 9 lines your very own piece of justice. I don't like people who sum up immensely complicated issues in 9 lines.
Ps, the americans spent way to much oil to liberate Iraqis and are now sanctioning another major oil exporter. How is that Oil hunting?
@eshvartz The fact that something was agreed upon by politicians doesn't make it moral or just. The fact that your ancestors lived on that land centuries ago is irrelevant. If you believe that the fact that one had an ancestor living on some land is enough to give that person possession of the land and ignore the rights of the indigenous population than you have to admit there was nothing wrong with Hitler annexing Austria and Americans should leave "their" land to make room for the Natives.
@eco4321 WOW! you sound like such a brilliant man. no, really. only 12 and already have full access to US top secret plans for the mid-east. impressive.
But try to be careful, the American-Zionist regime has long jewish arms that can reach your very neighborhood, take the blood from your veins and convert it into demonic loudspeaker propaganda.
Tell me what is it with you ppl thinking there are 2 specific govs. around the world with secret-evil agendas for landgrab, oil interests and massacre?
@eshvartz This is supposed to be such a complex issue and you've already run out of valid arguments? Your ad personam attacks only make my points look stronger. You are trying to portray me as some wacky conspiracy theory fan when it is clear that Israel is oppressing the indigenous population. Is illegally colonizing the Wast Bank. Used white phosphorus against civilians. Attacks ships on international waters. Is ignoring and breaking international law. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's fact.
@eco4321 Well, You already made your mind up about the more basic questions in hand. Are the west bank territories rightfully Israeli or pals.? I bet you know the answer. Has the Free Gaza flotilla been all about delivering aid to the besieged or about creating media commotion (who are the IHH?).
Are the pals. the rightful owners of this land and not the hebrews decendents? by what reasons then? Can you share with us all who was here first? is Gaza surrounded w/ enemies or is Israel? and so on..
@AmericanNohbuddy It's something for americans to solve with indians. And that's my point, if indians want to fight for the land, they should fight, it's not a crime to fight. if you want to give them some land give 'em. But this problem is not the problem of britain, norwegia or israel for that matter. (Unless something illegal happens like a massacre)
To call Iran, Iraq and North Korea an, "Axis of Evil", is incorrect because they are not by definition an axis. An axis is a group of countries that have willingly formed an alliance with each other, and will eventually come together to form a larger nation, like the Axis of Germany, Italy and Japan in WWII. But if I am not mistaken, Iran and Iraq fought a war with each other. And neither nation had any explicit alliance with North Korea. These politicians get it all wrong.
Adefgos13 1 month ago
This is a guy that thinks that he is a historian!
The only problem is that you can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.
franklindavid 2 months ago
america did not win the ww2. russians where kicking german ass. i know this bechose russians where our enemies. UK was still an empire, shadow of its former self, yes. but still and empire. Americans helped a lot, but even if americans had joined for the very start of the war it whuld have had very little difrence in the fall of france. german army was very good. when americans and germans first met at kassarine pass. germans inflicted one of the worst routs of the war on americans.
gethsoftware 2 months ago
I loved when he was like, "That's just made up!" Love you, Cenk!
dminortheory 7 months ago
america needs to stop being the global policeman. when a problem starts in a country, america needs to just leave it alone. just stop and think maybe it will be ok. just for once don't go to a war. the rest of the world dislikes you because if something happens america could be in as a problemsolver
DaBigChalk1991 8 months ago
This young turk is a liberal retard on display
-He should wear a big red nose, big shoes, clown make-up and get a flower that squirts water
Zendout1 9 months ago
Gingrich is right. Kim Jong Il is the most brutal dictator in the modern world, even worse than Sadaam Hussein was. America's inaction is shameful. the US has the military and technical capability to topple the dictatorship, bring Kim Jong Il to the ICC where he belongs and liberate north Korea from communism. and what are we doing? nothing. why? because we're billions of $ in debt to NK's strongest ally- Hu Jintao's communist regime in China.
TheTollundWoman 9 months ago
you're a fucking jackass
sirsean1227 9 months ago
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999jsw 9 months ago
when does Colbert come on?
chachieb 10 months ago
Eisenhower's Farewell Speech warned of the undue influence of the growing Military-Industrial Complex. You guys are just now complaining about the fulfillment of this fifty year old prophecy.
The job of most Republican/Conservative politicians and commentators is to legitimize the outrageous expenditures wasted on bloated military, law enforcement and prison spending. One characteristic they all have in common is FEAR - the objective of true TERRORISTS!
LarryGUU 11 months ago
Flash-forward to March 2011 and now the US is involved in Lybia. What if POTUS was waging wars against Iran and/or North Korea?
AlexxxCat 11 months ago
wow,another draft dodger who will take YOU and your children to war.
scotsmaninusa 1 year ago 3
Gingrich and his cronies made it clear, no war is too big for the West if it means domination over the Arab world. He argues that all that stands between the West and the Arab world is Iran, and the US is ready to exercise military muscle. Several Arab countries have already joined the Western/Israeli takeover, the que...stion is, which countries will stay loyal to their people?
mouradprotest 1 year ago
I´m from Germany. I think the USA is a modern-nazi-country. You know if some priests beginn to burn korans in public, then somethin is wrong there. I wish ur country a destroying desaster that u gonna beg for some food at the muslims.
TheAKmatics 1 year ago
More media bullshit, we all know the media is influenced by governments, dumb fucks, we figured it out, we proved it, fuk the media, respect to this guy. ISLAM MUST BE DESTOYED!
chrisgret 1 year ago
@chrisgret Why?
feruzusmon 1 year ago
give me a break :D :D
hesham3540 1 year ago
Werent the germans, japanese and italians fascists? But in guess in his mind they were communist. lol
singlephase80 1 year ago
This Turk guy has brains for shit. This motherfucker probably got his ass kicked many times back in school. This cocksucker is the typical liberal. Stupid brainless cocksucker.
jmwwd 1 year ago
BOMB THOSE SAND NIGGERS IN IRAN!
phantom1000A 1 year ago
Newt, please go away, you are a buffoon who is not right for the times or our country.
Thank you,
MACKATTACK1970 1 year ago
I love your commentary, it truly shows the depth of your stupidity. Keep talking.
thecitytroll 1 year ago
I love your commentary, it shows how truly stupid your train of thoght is.
thecitytroll 1 year ago
Neocon logic.....
If you want to reduce defense spending and stop endless wars for the military industrial complex so that no more people get killed....................you hate the troops
If you are against unconstitutional warrantless wiretaps and torture................You hate freedom
If you question/criticize the (republican) president......................You hate America
WAR IS PEACE
FREDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
yep, that pretty much sums it up.
jack5051525354 1 year ago 40
@jack5051525354 Strange how you "hate the troops" if you want them to come home to their normal lives, hm?
MaoiMeowi2 1 year ago
I'm sorry but who is the expert here on foreign affairs, Gingrich or this amateur news guy? I think I tend to take Gingrich a wee bit more seriously lol! What a joke!
mythicalhell 1 year ago
@mythicalhell Thats because you can't even see though the fog of bullshit. This guy is a fucking radical whacko, Iran is not evil.... if you listen to Cenk's points, he dominates Gingrich. Iran, Iraq, and North Korea are not allies, they never have been, and if we keep attacking people, they will. And your argument is like saying "George Bush can't be wrong because of his experience, if the person arguing with him is inexperienced". The neocons fight agaisnt American values, and you eat it up.
GuhYeahRight 1 year ago
Don't tell me what I believe and don't believe, you never met me! You don't know what I believe! You arrogant dick!
mythicalhell 1 year ago
@mythicalhell Hey, they were gonna build the new Tim Horton's next to my condo, but then some goober from the town council decided that it was going to be a hot dog garden, so I named it Grundle, after my goldfish.
guninthewater 1 year ago
@mythicalhell So you would rather have an 'expert' tell you lies and propaganda then a non expert tell you facts and evidence? What makes you think Cenk isn't qualified to speak on the subject?
jack5051525354 1 year ago
@jack5051525354 I would rather have an expert tell the truth!
mythicalhell 1 year ago
Japan fought the Allies in World War I, which was against Germany. So in reality, yes Iran, Iraq, and North Korea are the axis of evil.
RTKD07 1 year ago
Hopefully just a theory, but any1 else think at 0:34, he purposely "subliminally" seig heil'd. Sorta think Palin has done it when she said Isreal. Also McCain did, he noticed himself, and closed his hand, and fist bumptd the air. Check out either Subliminal or subtle hand jestures for Palin..It's one of the 2 words. Can't remember for McCain, but he was on a stage, looking old, and speaking. That should narrow it down. Hopefully just a theory, but Republican-Conservative-wanting white votes?
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FlintLockwood3 1 year ago
Here's the formula - more dead soldiers (tools) = more profits for the corporate interests investing in war!!
So all you tools just keep firing those bullets and missiles. Uncle Sam will be happy to send your family and friends
a hugely inflated bill for the costs! And they can pay for the funeral when your dead ass comes home in a casket! Suckers!
p.s.Gingrich is a nigger!
Vetwolf13 1 year ago
sounds alot like "1984"
sotoj159 1 year ago
HAHA bush had a well thought out plan for Iraq. Those ideas most be like them wmd that were there but disappeared when they where suppose to be found.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
Yeah there was no real violence or real tension at all, just over look the Korean war ,the chinese civil war,Hungarian Revolution, Cuban Missile Crisis, Afghanistan war, Berlin Blockade, Berlin Crisis of 1961, Vietnam War,the Able Archer 83 NATO exercises in November 1983, the nuclear arms race(they almost pushed the button several times on both sides.) ,and the Czechoslovak coup d'état(we already about broke with 8 years i don't think we can last another 36 years worth of wars)
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
If N. Korea threw every nuke it has at us, Every state would still be there, and we would be able to retaliate with more than enough force to destroy the entire planet
LoneStarEvent 1 year ago
Man u are fucking good!
:)
They spend billions in war, and THE money they could spend rather on other things...
But it's that anti-communism, capitalistic view that continues from 1900 till now, hate grew and grew, and now they have wars... Stupid capitalists...
stendemen1995 1 year ago 9
@stendemen1995
You sound like a moron, stupid Communists.
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@chewbaca1989
Please be realistic, communism isnt even that bad if you think so.
The communism that the Russian made was a bad way, but it can be better, like marx' theory about socialism. That would be the best thing. But this is human! If you give someone power, that person will use that power for his own needs and his own likes. And the communistic system failed because of capitalism! I dont say thats a bad thing, but they just are busy in a too economic way! look at BP, Shell and so on!
stendemen1995 1 year ago
@stendemen1995
REALISTICALLY, the just show me a awesome Soviet auto, motorcycle, Fashion, watch, anything you take for granted was impossible because of what? Capitalism? Ok...
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@chewbaca1989
yeah I know that their stuff is not modern and really nice. And of course capitalism is not the only reason. Russia just failed with the economical plans that the plan office made. It became too complex! But the capitalism made that their development seemed underdeveloped. If there wouldnt be that awesome stuff now, communistic stuff would be great right now! Ok, development would go much slower, but is that worse? See the impact now of the fast growing world. Happy? No.
stendemen1995 1 year ago
@stendemen1995
Fail, fail, fail, go rot you crazy Commie.
I am so mortified to speak to people like you, I believe you to be a danger to me and my family.
I'm not just talking about "stuff" that's cool, I'm talking about innovation in sciences, medicine, agriculture, communications. All things that have made the world greater place for much more people than could ever have been possible under Communism.
Each sovereign nation state must find a solution for today's problems, not the soviet.
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@chewbaca1989
' go rot you crazy Commie.'
oh yeah, who is the danger here? Sorry but please stay polite ok:)
but ok. You don't want to, I will stay correct;)
I agree with the situation now, and I don't want communism back, really not! Now it would not work anymore, or it would take a super long time... But that is wasted time. And I have to agree with you, the sovereign states should find solutions. But I just state my opinion about where the problem comes from... understand?:)
stendemen1995 1 year ago
She"s a witch, she turned me into a newt! ah newt? ah newt? well, I got better. She's a witch!
theylied1776 1 year ago
It sounds like Gingrich thinks that Truman made the correct choice for dropping the A-bomb. According to history, Truman said that he did not take in the full scope of dropping the A-bomb. Basically, Truman had regrets about dropping the A-bomb.
sholmesful 1 year ago
@sholmesful Without it, we could've still won the war. We would have lost many more troops, but President Truman ordered the drop with much pain in his heart. No one could have know two A-bombs would have that kind of effect. Now we know, and even with our vast amounts of nukes, we're afraid of N. Korea and Iran
LoneStarEvent 1 year ago
You can never prove that more lives would be lost based on a past action of dropping a A-bomb.
sholmesful 1 year ago
@sholmesful not any life, american lives. when the bombs dropped, they killed thousands of Japenese. so many lives were lost from that bomb, maybe less than if we haden't dropped it, maybe more. we can't know. we never will. so whereas i cannot prove it, i like to think we saved more lives than ended with the A-bomb.
LoneStarEvent 1 year ago
Don't spend too long thinking about the maybe part! I think it's important to remember that a weapon-of -mass-destruction can only be used for one thing. Wm D's don't create peace, end war(s), save lives, make good politicians, or change the time stream.
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@LoneStarEvent "No one could have know two A-bombs would have that kind of effect." The second bomb were dropped three days after the first one. We had a pretty good idea on how the second one would look like.
randomwire 1 year ago
@randomwire you are correct. i always forget that part. thank you for reminding me
LoneStarEvent 1 year ago
watch the arrivals
1481588 1 year ago
There is no "victory" over religious extremists.
Diatonic5th 1 year ago
fuck this guy, didnt even see the video this guys is an ignorant asshole.
Ivan951 1 year ago
Truman did make a decision that Gingrich seems to think saved us from the commies, that in reality did little to change the world. TYT wrongly assumed he meant the nuke decision, when in reality, it was the decision to get involved with the Korean War. What makes this even stupider for the Republicans is that Truman also made the decision to not go to war against China, using nukes and starting World War III, which is what the Republicans proposed at the time. So much for not backing down.
Segasaturn95 1 year ago
'Merica.
brokenyard 1 year ago
Neocons, as teenagers, were those annoying twerps that incessantly ask pretty girls for a date, keep getting turned down, and they keep coming back for more. Somebody bitch-slap that Newt!
audadvnc 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix "Evil is necessary for change". That is an idea put forth by CS Lewis (of "Chronicles of Narnia" fame) in his book "The Screwtape Letters". It's a quick read with a unique perspective (from the POV of two demons from Hell). Wormwood and Screwtape live in a peculiarly morally reversed world, where individual benefit and greed are seen as the greatest good, and neither demon is capable of comprehending or acknowledging true human virtue when he sees it.
audadvnc 1 year ago
Bush was right about the Axis of Evil? Gingrich is so full of shit. If Iran was so bad why the fuck didn't bush do anything when Ahmadinejad showed up in the United States? Ahmadinejad spoke in front of the UN a couple times, even talked in front of a university audience. Why did they arrest the President of one of the Axis of evil? Bush was so scared of this guy he wouldn't even talk to him. Gingrich, Bush, and the rest of the Republicans are a bunch of chicken hawk bitches.
akfak0retlaw 1 year ago
Gingrich is a globalist tool of the establishment...anyone who likes him is a moron who may as well vote for Bush again in 2012. Mark my words...the republican establishment shills are going to have this mans back in 2012. Ladies and gentleman you may be looking at our future leader, he has all the qualifications....he's a 33 degree mason, he's a CFR member, he's a Bohemian Grove attendee, he's pro war, and he's a coward who should fight his own bullshit globalist wars!
KingsorPawn 1 year ago
NK wouldnt do shit if SK and NATO was to enter NK. If they send a single nuke we will obliterate the country... The whole country would have a nice glass floor.
tommysch 1 year ago
The young jerks are at it again. If anyone believes that the Muslims want peace with America, I pity your ignorance. If you believe they are your soulmates, please, take a year and go live amoungst them.
MrBadbob 1 year ago
There's a problem when the US sound far more menacing to the rest of the world than Iran ever would. A very big problem. Politicians like Gingrich ceaselessly say they're looking for the new Hitlers of our time, to go kick their asses. Sounds like the only ones that are goosestepping and constantly rattling swords here are Gingrich and his crowd.
How does "America is the greatest country on the planet" sounds in German, oh yeah... "Amerika uber alles".
Gargantua606 1 year ago
Awww, Cenk, you were Kicking ASS until you got to Truman. Li'l Newt was referring to the the Korean War with Truman, not WWII !! Now, how the hell can I share this clip?
I feel betrayed! 8-(
jaluck 1 year ago
newt fails. flex on em cenk hogan
billhed405 1 year ago
War is humanity's saviour,the ultimate form of population control after genocide
YoJimBoHugabaJoe 1 year ago
@YoJimBoHugabaJoe It's curious that people who advocate war as a population control mechanism are seldom eager to die in one.
MarquisdeBarrabas 1 year ago
@MarquisdeBarrabas ... as demonstrated by none other than Newt Gingrich himself, who avoided Vietnam with a series of bogus military deferments. He even married one of his teachers to avoid the draft. Later on, she was suffering with breast cancer, and he announced he was divorcing her - while she was in the hospital bed, recovering from cancer surgery. Mr. Gingrich is a real piece of work...
audadvnc 1 year ago
Its amazing so many idiots can get together at one time..MORONS
orginalspacegoat 1 year ago
why make more war on muslims? we fight evil peoples who take our countries.we know Presidnet Hussien Obama to do right and be good. He too make all muslims free and not be killed and slave to americans.all muslims would be good for all.
allah62 1 year ago
Gingrich is a fool, why do people even listen to him?
willdrake1 1 year ago
Well we need to deal with the evil of islam in some way. I suspect that talking will not be enough. I have a feeling I will die by the hand of a muslim one day because I won't be able to shut up.
CreativeFreedoms 1 year ago
Oh Newt Gingrich....you crazy fucker you...lol
thesaxsoloist 1 year ago
@Darkconis And why do you think we started the space program?
Do you really think we would have made it to the moon if we weren't trying to beat the Russians there?
Why is this so hard for you to understand? Competition is the only reason anything is created.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@Darkconis And we still wouldn't have electricity if we never had war.
We wouldn't have a need to invent these things if we didn't have competition.
You must be pretty slow, you seem to think you found some serious flaw in my logic because you realized inventors made things, not war.
BTW Edison actually got the electricity thing going because he was able to scare people away from tesla's design.
Maybe it wasn't the same as bombs and guns but it was competition.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix "And we still wouldn't have electricity if we never had war.
We wouldn't have a need to invent these things if we didn't have competition."
Uhhh, no. In year 1816 First energy utility in US founded. In 1890, people had telephones.ATT was officially created the March 3rd 1885! The war didn't create these systems. And the government funded the construction of the infrastructure for electricity. By the way, nice red herring.
Darkconis 1 year ago
@Darkconis And you think that the invention of those devices was in no way related to making more money and power than somebody else?
Your just going to keep throwing out inventions and claiming it had nothing to do with war. I'm not talking about war with just tanks and soldiers, I'm talking about all war, including the wars right here. The fact is (a fact you keep trying to prove wrong but fail on every attempt) all inventions are inventions of war or evil.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix "BTW Edison actually got the electricity thing going because he was able to scare people away from tesla's design.
Maybe it wasn't the same as bombs and guns but it was competition."
Tesla was a much better engineer than Edison could have ever dreamed of being. It wasn't competition. Edison scared people by electrocuting dogs with AC current, and saying DC couldn't kill them. But DC current CAN kill. Competition by fraud and deception.
Darkconis 1 year ago
@Darkconis In other words, it was a competition. Your statement makes no sense, obviously Tesla was a better engineer, everybody who researched the subject knows Edison ran a smear campaign against Tesla's design, in other words, terrorism. How is that not competition?
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix Had we went with tesla's designs in the first place, we would have saved thousands of dollars in infrastructure costs. Charisma and misinformation won over intelligence, and you call it competition. I call it retarded. But you are right about the NASA. NASA was founded for the race to space. And Russia fell because of it's massive spending. Putting millions of Russian citizens in poverty for decades. We don't need competition to do things. Look at the LHC.
Darkconis 1 year ago
@Darkconis So first you call me an idiot and claim that nasa had nothing to do with competition or war, now you admit it does but you still say I'm wrong.
This is pointless, you keep agreeing with me whenever i prove you wrong but you never want to admit that you were wrong.
Yes I realize that the world would be better, maybe if Tesla was more competitive and started countering Edison's terrorism with his own, his design would have been the majorly accepted one.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix You miss the point. His design is now the majorly accepted one. But such competition hindered our advancement. Why should Tesla have to resort to the same bullshit edison did? It would have taken time from his experiments and designs. This whole system is filled with such pointless bullshit, instead of focusing on what's important. From the human condition, to the environment, to technological advancement, capitalism has failed. It's in the history books.
Darkconis 1 year ago
@Darkconis What point did i miss? You just changed the fucking subject. I never said tesla wasn't superior, i never said anything about capitalism being the perfect system. I proved you wrong on every turn so your just changing the subject because you don't want to admit it.
All i said is all technological advancements are attributed to war or competition. There would be no advancements if there was no reason to mass produce them for money. Never said it was perfect, that's just reality.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix "All i said is all technological advancements are attributed to war or competition" This is your claim."Why should Tesla have to resort to the same bullshit edison did? It would have taken time from his experiments and designs" Is my answer. How much clearer can I be on the point you missed. To make games for such stupid stuff as competition and war unfocuses science. And then science begins to lean to agenda and not discovery. Next you'll say CERN is all about competition
Darkconis 1 year ago
@Darkconis Try to understand this instead of blindly defending your close minded view of the world, you just proved my point. Tesla chose not to resort to Edison's tactics so people saw Edison's design as the better one. Don't you think Tesla would have been better off if he chose to compete and prove Edison wrong?
I already proved several of your points wrong and you want to keep throwing in random things and saying they are unrelated to competition. It's getting childish.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix And war.
Darkconis 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix "And we still wouldn't have electricity if we never had war." Your really not the stupid are you? Do you even know what century the electrical infrastructure was built? Long before WW1. Just stop, your making yourself like dumb. And I don't honestly think your are stupid.
Darkconis 1 year ago
@Darkconis Try to keep this in mind, i never said electricity was the direct result of world war 1. I'm saying things like electricity are the direct result of a conflict of some kind. Don't believe me? You wouldn't be living in this country to begin with if we hadn't slaughtered the people who originally lived here.
everything we have we have because of conflict.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix That "no electricity without war" is unlikely. Minneapolis had an electric streetcar system rolling in the 1880's. Powerful carbon arc streetlamps went into service in the mid 1870's and were commonplace worldwide by 1890. AFAIK neither technology was driven by military interests.
audadvnc 1 year ago
@audadvnc So none of those were made to get more money or more power than somebody else? I find that very unlikely.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
He must have a cartoon image of a war in his mind because it is fucked up how our troops over seas are dying over these bullshit politicians and ones who are out of office and still pushing shit at the press just for political gain.
Useyno 1 year ago
north korea,Iran or anyother nation developing nuclear bomb are smart enough to know if they attack another country with nuclear bombs just because they now have one or even 20 bombs, that on the way to their country there will be 100 or more nuclear bombs to destroy their hole country. my opinion is they have them or want them the same way we do is for protection defence. I would not like some other country coming over telling my country what It can have or not for protection
navas1971 1 year ago
Someone needs to edit that video of Gingrich and put the "FUCK YEAH!" from Team America in.... WHY ARE YOU STILL READING THIS? WHY ARE YOU NOT WORKING ON THAT YET!?! GO-GO-GO-GO-GO!
NDstephan 1 year ago
I'll quote Team Fortress 2's Heavy Weapons Guy:
"STOOPID, STOOPID, STOOPID!!!"
GarlicPudding 1 year ago
Something I should point out: if we attack North Korea, not only will be endangering South Korea, but the entirety of the area there. Do we REALLY want to endanger Japan and China because of a lunatic who attacked an orderly country because of a "brutal dictator" who, I should point out, managed to keep three groups of people who were at each other's throats in a mild amount of peace? Can we afford ANOTHER brutal war in the streets of a foreign country? Ask our current vets how they like that.
Felrika 1 year ago
I nominate Newt Gingrich to take his rich, fat ass to North Korea, Iraq and Iran to give his life like the poor and middle class soldiers who are there now. Git 'er done Newt you P.O.S.
TruthIsSin 1 year ago 5
Jingoism from a chickenhawk is always a good source of comedy.
bacchus1975 1 year ago
North Korea doesn't have the money to maintain a war and south korea has plenty of money to maintain a war. North Korea would be dumb to start trouble they could easily be wiped off the map. USA took over the Iraqi government in 2 weeks and we have been policing them for 7 years. USA spends more on military spending than the entire world combined and we have the most technologically advanced air force in the world. Don't be stupid North korea you broke ass punks.
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ccolley3 1 year ago
The military is where the uneducated PEASANTS go to die to secure the profits of the rich at the cost of our tax dollars, infrastructure, and increasingly discraceful world image. Stop commiting treason to your own country folks, refuse to go to war unless its for an actual reason.
holysnake9 1 year ago 9
@holysnake9 Actually the Army *junior enlisted* is where those go. If they decide to stay they can make non-com or get a commision
LoneStarEvent 1 year ago
@LoneStarEvent well no, that pretty much makes up anyone who agrees to march off to ther deaths for theese guy's buisness intrests. I have 0 respect for anyone who would sell our country out, including those who would die to do so.
holysnake9 1 year ago
@holysnake9 the ones that march out are either mislead kids or they have been in the military for years. they are doing what they think is right and honorable, and that deserves some respect. Though i do agree that we should stay out of wars unless our freedom is directly involved
LoneStarEvent 1 year ago
Newt's irreponsible comments make my blood boil, honestly. Has this man no shame? No sense of decency?
MarquisdeBarrabas 1 year ago
I'm for it. As long as the draft starts with Rich White College Republicans/Conservatives.
kenwatch77 1 year ago 15
@kenwatch77 I'm with you. I love how these chickenhawks are always so quick to push for war (as it fills the pockets of those in the military complex, and those companies that make big TOYS for the war machine). I want to see those war-hungry politicians send their children to go to war, maybe then there will be more personally at stake for them, and they'll heavily consider whether the wars they call for are necessary. It's always so easy to send off poor people to fight.
DarthMakaveliSithMC 1 year ago
@kenwatch77 spoken like a poor deprived nigger
mitwalga 1 year ago
@mitwalga You must be scared. You probably cry war, but wouldn't have the sack to ever go. I'm not poor. I thought us blacks became rich all of a sudden, and whites were the victims now lol. Stfu stupid bitch.
kenwatch77 1 year ago
@kenwatch77 And, seeing as how your 'ken'...you don't need to go to the draft...something else is in store for your grille
wingedlightning 1 year ago
@wingedlightning Oh yeah? Like what? And BTW I have time already served. And no not in prison.
kenwatch77 1 year ago
he's right this is AMERIKKKA
GRIZZY1303 1 year ago
There is no "Axis if Evil", it doesn't exist. This is where either a: ignorance gets your or b: manipulation. And to Genie0390, where have you been? North Korea now has enough material for 9 missles, of which testing started in 2006 that has three resolutions by the UN against them.
Macabre215 1 year ago
I don't get Newt. I hated him back when he was large and in charge, but back before the election in 2008 he said some great, level-headed stuff about how fucked up the national election system is. And ever since, he's been talking shit again.
daevczen 1 year ago
Dishonest bastard Cenk!!!
North Korea got the nukes during GW Bush presidency?? FUCK OFF
genie0390 1 year ago
@genie0390 Their first nuclear weapons test was in 2006.
VolatileReaction 1 year ago
@VolatileReaction
..and the administration that gave them nuclear reactors was the Clinton administration
..and Iran will get a nuke during Obowma's administration
..and the President that got rid of the Shaw of Iran and helped install the radical pricks was JIMMY CARTER
strangely enough all three Presidents were,... liberal!!!
genie0390 1 year ago
@genie0390 Yes they did. 2006. Go to the NTI website if you don't believe it.
kenwatch77 1 year ago
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..and the administration that gave them nuclear reactors was the Clinton administration
..and Iran will get a nuke during Obowma's administration
..and the President that got rid of the Shaw of Iran and helped install the radical pricks was JIMMY CARTER
strangely enough all three Presidents were,... liberal!!!
genie0390 1 year ago
Willia3r:
War and peace are ying and yang. War can be a necessary tool sometimes.
War, by definition, happens when men fight. But is all fight a bad fight? Will you fight for anything? if so, where, exactly, do you put the line between worth fighting for and not..?
Step out of your campus, see a child burned alive. Then lecture people whether they should fight or not.
Stop being a little kid with your gov. conspiracy theories. in the end they're the ones who will defend your life if need arises.
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
Children suffer in this country too. How many here die from the lack of affordable care?
Aside from that I believe in wars that truly are about the defending our freedom. I believe in the American Revolution, and I believe in the righteousness of the Civil War.
I simply subscribe to the old saying that "America doesn't go about in search of Dragons to slay". because then at that point, war is all there is. You seem to think that America should fight forever & for any reason.
willia3r 1 year ago
People don't know why Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. American oil companies were drilling horizontally into Iraq, literally stealing Iraqi oil. American interests? Just a bunch of liars, thieves and murderers: that's all we've become. Hey, just look at the number of military bases we have in the majority of the world's countries. Are we there for them? or us? The last Imperialist is America, and every imperialist winds up crushed and defeated. Its time to turn it around and save the USA legally.
utopiandesign 1 year ago
Gingrich: just another 1st degree murderer whose paid tens of thousands of dollars to run his mouth. Is there a bloodbath taking place between us and Iran or N. Korea? No. The Civil War and World War II were steeped in bloodshed. In Iraq, America has the blood of a million+ civilians on its hands. And Bush claims Christ as Savior? Two things the Bible demands: be a man of your word, and never shed innocent blood. Did Bush meet this criteria? How about Obama? These men are unfit to lead anyone.
utopiandesign 1 year ago
Oo did cenk just say that you can argue about weather they should have thrown the nuclear bombs??
random0815 1 year ago
actually Roosevelt DID do that for 2 years, he didn't give a shit about ANYTHING until the US was attacked.
AdmiralofTheEmpire 1 year ago
"neocon think-tank" .."oxymoron" awesome pal, you're a retard.
kingediii 1 year ago
Newt Gingrich is wrong about everything he said. First of all he cannot talk about "axxis of evil", comparing Iran, Iraq and N. Korea to Nazi Germany and Japan? Newt, I don't mean to burst your bubble, but none of these 3 nations invaded anyone (besides Iraq's pathetic attempt in Kuwait 20 years ago).
vampiroangelico 1 year ago
No FOX/CNN/MSNBC Backed candidates 2012!
DEMS/REPS= VOMIT
lushfauna 1 year ago
Newt Gingrich's logic, if Alexander the Great was born in the year 2010 AD then he would be an infant and that's why we need to start 4 wars.
666brainiac 1 year ago
They're being an axis isn't made up. Syria tried to build a nuclear reactor based on n.korean plans. iran and syria are constantly reaffirming how good they're relations are getting.
War against Iran will be totally diff. from what u got in Iraq. The Iranian people wants the gov. removed.. civs. are being killed over there for protesting against the gov.
I'm terribly sorry if it seems I'm dealing with matters not for me but the crap this presenter is saying is, well. just his own crappy opinion
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
What would be the big deal in Syria having a nuclear reactor? Nothing personal but your war talk is insane. We've already tolerated Pakistan having nukes & it is more closer than any other country to be being taken over by Islamic Militants.
We haven't even paid for the wars/conflicts that we have now, because Bush 2 felt the wealthy doesn't need to sacrifice, but you & ol' Newt to start ANOTHER WAR? Let me revisit my first opinion: YOU-ARE-CRAZY...Forget being nice on this one.
willia3r 1 year ago 2
@willia3r I'm not telling you what you should do with your money. Come, stay at my "Crazy" place for a week. Come with me to the missile shelter when we're fired at. then we can watch the news together and listen to Syrian president Mr. Assad saying: "Israel should get ready to war.. We have not, have not given any missiles to Hezbollah fighters.."
and then you can tell me: Eitan, "What would be the big deal in Syria having a nuclear reactor?" meantime while you're thousands of miles away, don't
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
People like you live for war. You can't live a life like that. Is there ever any room in your mind for peace?
The irony on Iran is that this "Islamic Revolution" would never have taken had place America & the CIA not overthrew Democratically elected Iranian Prime Minister Mossadegh in the 1950's. Guys like you back then felt that Iran had no right to nationlize its own oil.
So I guess the "hate & greed" cycle will continue once again. God bless.
willia3r 1 year ago 23
@willia3r Well. If you say I live for war, than you must be right. I "liked" hearing my 1st girlfriend calling me while big assed stones are being thrown at her by people like me. I "loved" getting of my daily bus just one stop before it blew up and sent my neighbours into bleeding chunks of meat on the sidewalk. I "really enjoyed" ppl like my best friend dying in a Hezbollah ambush up northern Israel.
But most of all I just "adore" assholz like you giving me crap about me being warlike. asshol
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
Operation Ajax. Read about it & tell me honestly if you still have the same opinion that you do.
willia3r 1 year ago
@willia3r So, all of a sudden you feel like being "nice on this"? Let me tell you something. really, what I say comes from a very deep place within me.
Your life is good. it's not only good, it's great. You are part of a world that forgot about why war can sometimes be necessary. you remind me of north europeans that are "sick" of war and keep condemning all events of war worldwide. I'm telling you, if one day, an enemy INVADES, you won't be part of a public that condems without fully understan-
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
Me being "nice"? Hardly. I was trying to bring the discourse down from "overly partisan madhouse" level, to "let's have nice scholarly unemotional debate" level. It seems you are more interested in the former than the latter.
Whatever neo-conservative "the-sky is falling" kool-aid you are drinking it seems you believe it whole-heartedly & is unwilling to acknowledge any facts that incovenience the taste of that kool-aid. Sad that there are too many people like you in power.
willia3r 1 year ago
@willia3r You know it's the first time I looked up a translation into english in the past few years or so. I was looking for the word -condescending-.
I'm not talking about all americans and some children that don't have proper health care. I'm talking about you. HappyGoodLife, you.
US should only fight the wars that protect its own interests. Be that abroad.
I believe your own experienced generals know more about your national interests than you do.
You just wank to sound of your own voice.
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
I have a word for you as well: fool.
God bless.
willia3r 1 year ago
@eshvartz Who's going to 'invade' Northern Europe now? Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves? The Russian Federation of Vodka Distilleries?
War is sometimes necessary. Armchair generals? Hardly so.
MarquisdeBarrabas 1 year ago
@MarquisdeBarrabas It appears, peace activists as well as rubber ducks are uncapable of theoretical thought. what diff. does it make who invades? You act all pretty about these issues. Those who deny the need of defense are idiots.
I hope some of the more "enlightened" parts of the world gets invaded, by monsters for all I care, just for them to remember what a father for a family must do when his daughters life is in danger.
Also, not all gens. are corrupt-cartoonlike-warmongers. grow up
eshvartz 1 year ago
@willia3r you want peace? i got your piece right here *raises his gun*
GRIZZY1303 1 year ago
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willia3r 1 year ago
@willia3r No country ever had any rights at all from my standpoint. Nationalizing oil fields is enough to call for a CIA-backed dictator to take over. Where we failed is when we didnt fucked the country up when they took the embassy. We should have carpet bombed every single major city in Iran.
tommysch 1 year ago
@tommysch talk about winning the hearts and minds
Craigipedia 1 year ago
@tommysch
Spoken like a true war-mongering Neo-colonial jerk. Pray for good karma, buddy. You're gonna need it.
willia3r 1 year ago
@willia3r Yes exactly the U.S. installed the Shaw in 53 and the reaction to that was the taking of our hostages in the late 70's then arms for hostages under Reagan which were used against Iraq in the 80's so The U.S. started supplying Saddam with weapons to fight the Iranians who were also armed by the U.S. then Iraq goes into Kwait in the 90's using weapons we gave them we send our soilders in. Then in 03'' we invade Iraq supposedly promoting Democracy how can people igore such flawed policy?
iamsean90 1 year ago
@eshvartz Actually, civilians are being killed all over the world, it doesn't mean we have to go and make a war. And we have no right to go and kill more of their civilians because we want to bring our "democracy". Why would we want more wars to begin with? Is easy for someone to support a war, when they aren't the ones fighting or losing their relatives to. No young man should die to protect national interest. of the elite.
justmeyep14 1 year ago
@justmeyep14 Actually and unfortunately I have been a soldier, I have been through war, I do have relatives who died in the hands of extremists. I'm not saying a new war should be fought. I am saying 'If he's aiming a gun at your face, no matter how big or how small a gun that is, shoot first' and I'm not the cowboy, macho type while we're at shootin'.. The USA is great because it offers civs freedom instead of oppression. It also helps defend freedom for other, non americans. like Israelis :)
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
"The USA is great because it offers civs freedom instead of oppression."
Not always. Especially when Corporate interests are involved. Operation Ajax is one good example. Another example was the blockade of Haiti when that country freed itself from France's slavery. Yet another example was our support for dead Chilean General Augsto Pinochet when he "disappeared" over 15,000 political activists.
You really, REALLY need to stop drinking the kool-aid.
willia3r 1 year ago
@eshvartz
If America was interested in defending freedom they would have supported Palestine. You know, the land your people have invaded and are now illegally colonizing.
The American government wants oil and political control over the world. In their world view people are only free to obey the US. When they choose otherwise they are dangerous terrorist supporters and probably commies too.
eco4321 1 year ago
@eco4321 Israel was legally created by UN resolution, in case you haven't heard. please tell me how can the hebrews invade Jerusalem? or maybe its not king David who built it. Maybe its king muhamad who built Jerusalem.
You actually managed to put in 9 lines your very own piece of justice. I don't like people who sum up immensely complicated issues in 9 lines.
Ps, the americans spent way to much oil to liberate Iraqis and are now sanctioning another major oil exporter. How is that Oil hunting?
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz The fact that something was agreed upon by politicians doesn't make it moral or just. The fact that your ancestors lived on that land centuries ago is irrelevant. If you believe that the fact that one had an ancestor living on some land is enough to give that person possession of the land and ignore the rights of the indigenous population than you have to admit there was nothing wrong with Hitler annexing Austria and Americans should leave "their" land to make room for the Natives.
eco4321 1 year ago
@eshvartz This issue is not complex though zionist propaganda tries to make it look as such.
Americans aren't liberating anyone. They are tying a noose around Iran's neck and ensuring they'll have supervision over the Middle East.
eco4321 1 year ago
@eco4321 WOW! you sound like such a brilliant man. no, really. only 12 and already have full access to US top secret plans for the mid-east. impressive.
But try to be careful, the American-Zionist regime has long jewish arms that can reach your very neighborhood, take the blood from your veins and convert it into demonic loudspeaker propaganda.
Tell me what is it with you ppl thinking there are 2 specific govs. around the world with secret-evil agendas for landgrab, oil interests and massacre?
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz You are, hopefully, not the future of this country.
MrBadbob 1 year ago
@eshvartz This is supposed to be such a complex issue and you've already run out of valid arguments? Your ad personam attacks only make my points look stronger. You are trying to portray me as some wacky conspiracy theory fan when it is clear that Israel is oppressing the indigenous population. Is illegally colonizing the Wast Bank. Used white phosphorus against civilians. Attacks ships on international waters. Is ignoring and breaking international law. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's fact.
eco4321 1 year ago
@eco4321 Well, You already made your mind up about the more basic questions in hand. Are the west bank territories rightfully Israeli or pals.? I bet you know the answer. Has the Free Gaza flotilla been all about delivering aid to the besieged or about creating media commotion (who are the IHH?).
Are the pals. the rightful owners of this land and not the hebrews decendents? by what reasons then? Can you share with us all who was here first? is Gaza surrounded w/ enemies or is Israel? and so on..
eshvartz 1 year ago
@eshvartz
Native Americans were here in America first. Should we give them back the land?
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
@AmericanNohbuddy It's something for americans to solve with indians. And that's my point, if indians want to fight for the land, they should fight, it's not a crime to fight. if you want to give them some land give 'em. But this problem is not the problem of britain, norwegia or israel for that matter. (Unless something illegal happens like a massacre)
eshvartz 1 year ago