2:12 "He (Marquez) always falls a quarter of an inch short against the really special fighters..." LOOOOL!!! Mayweather vs Marquez 120-108. Thats a bit more than a quarter of an inch and sort of makes Floyd a lot more than special...
Manny won the first fight knocking down Marquez 3X, the judge who called it a draw later stated he made an error, & their second fight the knockdown made the difference in Mannys win. Remember Marquez was the one to turn down an immediate rematch with Pacquiao, not the other way around as many people believed. A prime Marquez instead fought and was defeated by Chris John in Indonesia. Marquez is not at the level with Cotto,Margarito or Clottey & Manny prevailed against them all.
The problem with JMM, his camp and boxing fans and experts who keep saying that Marquez was robbed against Chris John and his two fights with Manny Pacquiao: Marquez let those close fights go the distance and left it in the hands of the judges.
He doesn't know what those three judges at ringside are going to do. Simple as that.
Marquez is the best counter puncher there is. Some say it's Mayweather but no. If Mayweather weighed the same as Marquez, then Mayweather would get knocked the fuck out by Marquez.
when I saw this live on tv, I thought marquez won...after almost two years, I watched it again on youtube, and now I think pac really won this close fight...
An actual boxing fans know that JMM left the fight in the hands of the judges and paid the price. He should've learned his lesson against Pacquiao and Chris John, but obviously, he didn't.
And JMM and his fans don't understand that JMM made the cardinal sin that you should not do against fighters especially against Manny Pacquiao: leave the fight in the hands of the judges.
I love Manny Pacquiao as a boxer, since he beat Julio whatever the fuck his name was on the Tyson-Lewis undercard. Will be an all-time great, but his fans on youtube are the worst, yall niggas want Pacquiao to sit on your faces. Complete tools, MArquez completely outboxed him, Israel Vazquez even convincingly beat Oscar Larios twice in better fashion than PAcquiao.
i like how pactards say they scored it wrong in the first fight, but wont accept that they scored it wrong for marquez the second fight. God i hate pactards. pac won the first, maybe, but anyone with no education could figure out that marquez won the second.
You're name calling is seriously gay, nor does it give you any edge on the argument. It just shows your low-level intellect, so stop for your own sake.
Your 1st sentence is ironic. All the JMM fans say the 1st match was scored right (when it has been proven to be wrong which is it's now looked as a draw), yet the 2nd match is BS because JMM lost (it was never said by officials to be a miscount so that argument is invalid).
Your logic is bias and you are just pretending it isn't. The only thing you've given in your posts is your gay flames that are seriously horrible. JMM did not win both those matches, not the second one. We all saw the knockdowns and we all know that gives an edge on points. You guys make it sound as if Pacquiao wasn't hitting anymore after the last knockdown. There were times in the later rounds where JMM almost fell. Due to the punches and the knockdown, logic shows who has the higher point.
Actually, JMM took pac's one-two's away, and in the later rounds, he tried to box marquez, which failed. It was when his sloppy ass headbutted marquez, that he started to pressure, which failed as well. you are pinoy, so dont try to tell me your lame points, because boxing is scored on 4 criteria, not how much you hug nuts.
The last round went to JMM, but that did not narrow enough to cover the other Pac shots and the knockdowns that's why JMM came that close.
Idiot. You seriously are a twat giving out random excuses and thinking you are more professional than any of the judges.
What's funny is that you fail to mention the admitted SCORE ERROR in the first bout, in which JMM was announced as the winner by that mistake.. and you're pointing out nut huggers?
aside from pacman marquez is my favorite.. he have my respect but looking at each round no matter how many times i watched it its almost a draw except for the knockdown
I agree bro, I especially hate the people who say that regardless, pacquiao was declared the winner of the second match but say he won the first one, even though it was declared a draw regardless
Those are the same biased pactard trash that say stuff like "kiss the canvas" and shit like that. They know shit about boxing and how to score it. I've seen calzaghe "kiss the canvas" and he is undefeated. lol. Yeah it is funny how they argue the judge in the first, but cant aknowledge the judges messed up in the second fight as well. You have to be retarded to think pac won. Look at him the whole way, he looked wasted going to his corner.
i like how they compubox round 12 and back it up on hbo for marquez, and they still give round 12 to pac when he got fleeced. Thats only one round that was robbed. Fuck arum, he is known for buying judges and backed up by court deposition.
They gave it to pac because of the knockdowns.. it was based on effective punches not the numbers of punches. Pacquiao through the better punches because JMM hit the floor about 3 times. In reality, JMM would have went down 5x if it wasn't for the ropes to help his balance.
You are a fucking retard. compubox backs up JMM's accuracy and numbers. He put a clinic on pac and pac and all the professionals know that. ALSO HE LOST ROUND 12 AND 3 OTHERS TO PAC. OBVIOUS GIFTS. LOOK AT PAC AT THE END TOO, LOSER.
That's some e-thugging there. The punches paq delivered sent JMM on the floor nearly 5 times (JMM hit the floor 3x but there where 2 extra blows that wobbled him. You didn't understand the compubox.. Statistically it was Marquez who landed the most hits on Pacquiao but Manny has landed the more meaningful shots in the fight (the knockdowns).
by effective, you dont include 3 punch combinations and counters, feints, and pure skill. By effective you mean slophouse flurries. That shit wont fly against cotto either.
Ya, and that was not included on the card. What gave Manny the winning points was the knockdowns because it's a show case of affective punches. JMM was sent hard on the floor on the 3rd round. Knockdowns show effective punches, and JMM was not knocked down nearly 5 times.
pacman got the belt both times and it can not be changed in history also fuck of all those thick head bastards who says that many lost if you are so expert you should have to be on the judges chairs but you are not because you are barking here on pacman but it will not change history which is written that pacman won both fights
you said that nobody can change history, then that means the first one will go down as a draw. your trying to change it by saying pacman won both fights
poor marquez he always claim that he is better than pacman but why fightfans dont want to see his fight,all his fights is outside Vegas and has co main event and free on TV unless he's fighting pacman. And now he already booked with famous Mayweather saying that it is mega event but still low tickets sales inspite of months of promotions and co-main event undercards,that's why still on ths shadows of barrera/morales.Their fight is far from pacman-cotto fight: speechless yet but almost sold out.
wtf bug eating... at least i dont eat dogs like u fucken chinese fucks... mexicans control the world of boxing every1 knows it even u do just admit it and get off my big MEXICAN dick bitch
yeah, but i don't think pac-cotto is going to be in theaters like Marquez-Mayweather. and talking about (fightfans) haha who wanted to see David diaz vs Pacquiao?? it was in las vegas, the revenue flopped. the ppv flopped, barely 11.000k people were in the arena,
im glad marquez lost this fight.if dis was a draw or a marquez win, fine, no problem. but dis just made up for the wrong decision in the first fight. lederman had manny winning in dat fight, these commentators were already expecting manny 2 b given the win after d 12th round of d first fight bcoz in their eyes pac won.manny won the 1st fight. and besides if manny didnt fight marquez casual fans wouldnt even know he exist. marquez's claim to fame is having a draw and a split decision lost to pac.
Marquez is dumb he punches 3 consecutive power punch at round 2 Pacman still standing. 1punch at third round JMM decks flying his feet like M Jordan. U r not d model of nike. MP is Nike endorser.
Manny took the first and JMM took the second. A championship fight is 12 rounds and not about 1 good round here or there. JMM got up like a warrior and gave Pacman the monster a ton of problems, or else we would be saying Pac beat Marquez by K.O, but he didnt and thats a fact. Pac has destroyed Men in different weight classes left and right and please exlclude the excuses. He beat ODLH, Hatton, and his speed probably too much for Cotto.All very capable fighters but this man made it to full 24rds
pacquiao was hurt in the 2nd round and marquez was hurt in the 3rd and 10th round. all of the rounds was even no one got hurt. so the decision was fair 1 point lead for pacquiao. review the fight 50 times, still pacquiao lead by a point. suppose to be 2 points bcoz of the 3rd rnd K.O. marquez saw the shoes of the referee and the custom made nike of pacquiao when he hit the floor 4 times in 24 rounds.
who has manny pac beat?? name 1 undefeated fighter manny pac beat!!!
Erik morales lost a trilogy then lost a tune up fight then lost to manny pac!!! oscar de la hoya 36 year old part time fighter weight drained and lost 3 of his last 6 fights!!! hatton got K.O.ed by mayweather and mayweather is not even a power puncher!!! manny pac is a protected "padded" fighter!!!
ok well name a prime fighter that he beat!! manny pac is taking easy fights tha he knows he can win!! he sets weight limits he never fights the best at thir best!!! like when you put a mutt to fight a pitbull manny pac is a padded fighter!!!
JMM mostly fights outside of HBO and usually fights opponents in Mexico etc, who he usually fight nobodies.
Its his first weight limit fight idiot, just because he made Cotto become 145 hes now doing it continously?
Everytime Pacquiao fights, usually everyone say hes gonna get his ass beat, what happens all the sudden? His opponent either becomes out of prime, too old, c class fighter etc. MAKES ME LAUGH
no you dumb ass he made erik morales fight at 130 when erik morales said he could not make that weight anymore manny pac insisted on it!!! erik even fought his tune up fight at 135lbs and pleeded for manny to meet him at a catch weight of 132lbs and manny said no 130lbs!!! manny wants his opponents weak why you think he fought oscar at 147 but not cotto??
on the other note,,, pacquiao got blisters and injured left hand the first time they fought, the second time, pacquiao hardly met the weight limit of 130lbs. and causes him a little bit drained and ballooned up abruptly fight night that's why he can't moved the way he does... marquez surely is a great fighter, a great warrior i salute him, but how you imagine pacquiao if he fought on his peak level of condition..in that case, the story battle might be close to an end.
Listen there are no excuses in boxing or in fighters. Everybody gets time to train and prepare. Marquez got knockdown and got up and fought back. If you look at Pacmans record he KO'ed the opponent before Marquez and after Marquez so dont give me this shit that he had weight issues and hand problems when all of sudden he fought Marquez. Bitch Please. And all the sweeter when Marquez takes the third against a nearly perfect Pacman and remember Marquez is 36
you were right mancenido, pacquiao and marquez fought a close fight twice, and they were evenly match, but pacquiao is more ahead on points against marquez, people might had not seen pacquiao's punches bcoz of the lightning speed of his combination, but slow motion never lies, most of the punches pacquiao's thrown had got through to marquez's face and most of the punches marquez' s thrown had been blocked, viewers had just only been decieted by these both fighters speed posession.
pacquiao beat's marquez not once but twice because in their first fight the judge's say after the fight that there are wrong and some error's that favored marquez to have a draw in that fight
in their second fight manny boxing expert say's that marquez beat pacquiao i watch it many times and ive seen manny pacquiao beat marquez really because maybe the boxing expert did not see what the judge's see they do not see the lightning speed puches's of manny pacquiao landed in the face of dinamita
yeah thats true Filipino judges said that marquez beat him thats why marquez says he won and I say he won maybe not the first fight but the second it was his
let mayweather fight them both and then decide. i had the second fight for marquez. When Marquez moved his head, he dominated pacman. When he didnt move his head or got caught, pacman was winning. i think he dominated for more rounds than he got caught. just my opinion. Pacquiao stands a better chance because of his speed but i think mayweather will walk him down the same way he did Judah. would rather see Mayweather vs Paul Williams. that would be the most entertaining fight to make right now.
im a pacman fan, and i do believe marquez won the fight..but still, manny deserves to be the p4p king and ring magazine coz the excitement of the fight he bring is jsut tremendous...and and he keeps moving up in weigh and wacking those big guys......get what i mean people?....now stop arguing
No matter what happens in the scorecards from us or the judges the result still stands.
However, the result doesn't take away all the excitement that Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao brought in the ring for two action packed warrior bouts.
Despite the above arguments in Marquez's favor, if a judge had based his card solely on who connected more on a round-by-round basis (which they don't), Pacquiao would have come out ahead 6-5-1, or 115-114. Incidentally, the even round occurred in the third, and had an extra point been awarded the scorecard would have read 115-113 Pacquiao, which would have been close to Duane Ford's card of 115-112.
Ok ok listen professor vin diesel once said and I quote "doesent matter if you win by an inch or a mile winning is winning" so stop with the bitching this aint his first loss so stop its over...
CONTINUATIONpacman floored marquez FOUR TIMES with his feet up high and unconcios did'nt know where his corner is and if not by the referee he will sit also with pacman at the same stool(very funny)and marquez did'nt floored pacman EVEN once in their "24 ROUNDS" of fighting...it is easy to punch with style but with no power(marquez)coz you can pull your fist back again but bunches of punches with tremendous POWER & STYLE(pacman) that can send anyone to canvass, that separate pacman with marquez.
knocked him down not out dumb bitch you dont know shit about boxing it basically technique of fighting dumbass JMM was better than gayasspacman your just to stop that think kd some1 deserves a win well unless you beat them throughout the fight or out dumb bitch
if he really dominate pacman he would knock pacman at least once in 24 ROUNDS OF FIGHTINGS or at least to pitiful situation like having wobbly legs or feet up high unconcios dont know where his corner is...Pacman always has a galant stand THROUGHOUT THE FIGHTS.what marquez did is punching quick to destruct pacquiao's aim but no power & no intention of knocking him down and that is not quality boxing, that is for he to look like that he is better than pacman,sorry for him it doesnt happenCONT.
it is easy to punch quick with style but with no power(marquez) just to destruct pacman's aim coz you can pull your fist back again and that is not quality boxing but bunches of punches with tremendous POWER & STYLE(pacman) that can send anyone to canvass, that separate pacman with marquez.
wat do u mean no power??? last time i checked both have 37 knock outs, with manny having one less fight than Marquez,.... dats y manny has a KO percentage of about mayb 1% or 2% higher than Marquez...... Marquez having da better chin never being TKOd, or KOd, while Manny has been KO'd 2 times... check your facts then have ur discussion... yes he can maybe send them 2 da canvass but clearly not the power puncher every1 makes him out 2 be
not the power puncher? hehe what do you call the punch that made hatton fell and sleep in the canvass??? their faces speaks for itself, who has the most bruises on the face lands the most effective punches in the fight so accept it manny won the fight
i never said he doesn't have power... i said he isn't the power puncher everyone think he is becuz he clearly is said to have more powe than JMM but its not really real bcuz he has as much knockouts as JMM n every1 thinks he is just a counter puncher its its not true...
just count the times JMM fell on Pacman's fist... Pacman never fell on JMM's punches you're reasonings are baseless... its like talking to a 1 yr old:-S
i feel like im talkin 2 da wind, i'm not talkin about knockdowns i'm talkin about knockouts, yes he knocked him down and hurt him but JMM hurt him too, but manny never knocked him out...
since you are such a genius in boxing, how then would you score the first round of their first fight? with 3 knockdowns the score should have been 10-6 not 10-7 the one judge scored the first fight which ended in a draw Pacman should have won the first fight, team pacquiao demanded marquez a rematch but marquez was a sissy he waited till pacman got a bigger name than him 4 yrs for a rematch dont throw crap all over you'll just look like one
couldnt have said it better!Pacman is afraid 2 fight JMM and it showed by him running from Marquez the whole fight but yes a 3rd fight is most def needed
CONTINUATIONpacman beat barrera twice convincingly put barrera(in his prime) 4 times on the deck while marquez did'nt! barrera knocked him down(funny) and if not for the point deduction barrera will win that fight for sure and I dont think also marquez can knock the hard chinned El Terrible(morales)like pacman did.pls see CONTINUATION
TO ALL: I think marquez is still way far from pacman when it comes to pound for pound rating as manny defeated great fighters...and I think pacman will convincingly beat diaz and casamayor much than marquez did, come to think if pacman will fight casamayor and diaz what will be the outcome and the betting odds?...... for sure it is much favored to pacman than marquez did...pls see CONTINUATION
I gave this fight for Manny by a thin margin. Let's accept some facts of this match that it could go either way. Win lose or draw to either guy is an acceptable verdict.
dats not da only way they score on fights, aggression as well, ring generalship, in which he was doing in most of da rounds, and he seemed to damage him more, besides da knock downs
lilgizmo has actually a fair comment in almost every post. I am filipino but i agree with what lilgizmo was talking about. Manny may have win but not as much. The third one would be great. I'll go with manny when that happens just because manny is continuing getting better. I notice from his two previous fights. No hate and let the judges do their job.
It doesn't matter how many times you got knock down but how many times you get up and fight back and marquez has prove that...I bet when paquiao get knocked down once in a fight its going to be it and that time is coming watch...
It doesn't matter how many times you get knocked down? Of course it does. Get knocked once that's point deducted. If knock downs didn't matter JMM would have gotten the decision in both fights.
ur a stupid bitch not kos knocked downs dumb shit big difference if he was like tyson then it would be all about kos but manny is a piece of shit next to JMM
WOW! You really believe that? I think that Marquez is the great one and the exciting one to watch. Marquez throws beautiful combinations, has better technique, and a better overall array of weapons. All Pacquiao does is fight going in and out. He has amazing speed, but that's it. I scored the first fight 114-111 for Marquez and the second fight 115-112 again for Marquez.
Juan Manuel Marquez doesn't deserve another rematch with Paquiao. He is disrespectful, a cry baby (him and his team), and he dodged Pacquiao for this rematch for a long time until Pacman got to be so big in boxing he can no longer ignore him. Now it's payback time, make Marquez beg, rant and rave for a rematch but don't give it to him.
Pacman vs Marquez III will not prove anything anymore other than the fact that Marquez, his fans and his team are a bunch of sore losers and habitual cry babies.
Marquez and Pac fought twice, 24 rounds where 6 different licensed judges scored the fight. FACTS: 1)3 judges scored for Pac, 2 judges scores for JMM and one scored it a draw(he did not score the fight correctly and gave Pac a 10-7 round when it should have been 10-6, had he scored it correctly it would be 4 judges Pac and 2 judges JMM). 2) Pac put Marquez on his ass 4times. Close fights but 4 out of 6 judges who scored the fights give it to Pacman.
pacquiao made marquez kiss the canvass 4 times!!! how embarrassing for marquez... even though marquez is a good counter puncher, pacquiao clearly hit marquez as much as marquez hit pacquiao....marquez fans didn't seen it because, of course, all the marquez' fans are all eyes at marquez's punches and movements and didn't see pacquiao's punches, because obviously, it was too fast. but how come you didn't see or credit the knockdown!?
I have looked at the 2 fights again and again. I tend to think that the draw was good on the first one, even though JMM schooled him for 10 rds. On the second one looking at the punches added on compubox, looking at rd per rd i think JMM won, but pac is protected by the gambling and PPV mafia since all filipinos throw a lot of money in vegas when fight time. They are looking to get the Asian market and what better way than help manny out. that is what filipinos can't realize.
no, you could be the dumbest guy coz he is the smartest guy in boxing, haha, this guy has been around for decades and do u think u know better?? u are preposterous!
are u kidding me? pacquiao does NOT hit and run u fucking idiot your comment clearly shows that you know absolutley NOTHING about boxing and i bet your a mexican thats hating on pacquiao because they call him the mexecutioner...im not dissing mexicans im just sayin some of them are stupid and haters and cant take defeat... u people who hate pacquiao because hes beating mexicans should watch what he said in a Q&A meeting bitches.
"im not dissing mexicans im just sayin some of them are stupid and haters and cant take defeat."......
I Think Regardless of nationalities everybody hates when their favorite fighter loses,If Pac-Man would have lost the same way, we would of had a bunch of Pinoy/Asian haters... Keep it real, It is human nature...
If im gay then bring me your sister. You know what? here in USA Filipinas love mexicans and for sure they dont think we are gay so Shut up and get the head out of your ass
Jerry Roth should not be a judge in the Hatton v Pacquiao. He's so biased and opinionated that the only way an asian fighter could win against european is a knockout. Team Pacquiao should lodge a protest if Jerry Roth would be one of the judges. Wanna bet? Watch the way Jerry Roth would score the fight!
wow.... a lot of hostility! well i like both pacqioau and jmm...all i got to say is that if pacqioau really wanted to fight marquez again, they would've fought already but clearly pacqioau doesn't want to fight him again...but it doesn't matter tho cause marquez might get a shot at gayweather so pacqioau doesn't mean anything to jmm anymore!!! oh and for the record..i hate to say it but i think jmm won both fight with MP!
2:12 "He (Marquez) always falls a quarter of an inch short against the really special fighters..." LOOOOL!!! Mayweather vs Marquez 120-108. Thats a bit more than a quarter of an inch and sort of makes Floyd a lot more than special...
mirellale 5 months ago
marquez is waste of time.... zZZ zZz zZ
devilcruiser 5 months ago
Can't wait.
MrFudawg 7 months ago
bob arum paid the judges and im asian and saying it
Masteryoo 9 months ago
cant wait for Pacquiao vs JMM 3 !!
guitarsANDcars39 9 months ago
Manny won the first fight knocking down Marquez 3X, the judge who called it a draw later stated he made an error, & their second fight the knockdown made the difference in Mannys win. Remember Marquez was the one to turn down an immediate rematch with Pacquiao, not the other way around as many people believed. A prime Marquez instead fought and was defeated by Chris John in Indonesia. Marquez is not at the level with Cotto,Margarito or Clottey & Manny prevailed against them all.
michaelmega1 11 months ago
@michaelmega1
The problem with JMM, his camp and boxing fans and experts who keep saying that Marquez was robbed against Chris John and his two fights with Manny Pacquiao: Marquez let those close fights go the distance and left it in the hands of the judges.
He doesn't know what those three judges at ringside are going to do. Simple as that.
joesakic91 11 months ago
Marquez is the best counter puncher there is. Some say it's Mayweather but no. If Mayweather weighed the same as Marquez, then Mayweather would get knocked the fuck out by Marquez.
ihopeutubedies 1 year ago 5
@ihopeutubedies lol did u see what floyd did to marquez lol.sparring practice regardless the weight?skill is skill period.
freightrain808 1 year ago
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only pactards and ignorants think pacquiao won
and judges decision was part of the business(like many other bad decisions, like cintron vs martinez, robbed), only ignorants think that all is clean
cuentasinusar 1 year ago
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marquez won two fights . .. paquiao's face is like a pussy bitch . .
deltok 1 year ago
@deltok
Um, did Michael Buffer say "the winner by split decision is Juan manuel marquez"? Nope.
joesakic91 1 year ago
im a mexican boxer but i am a pacquiao fan doesnt men just because im mexican that im not going to like any other fighters
2020182 1 year ago
when I saw this live on tv, I thought marquez won...after almost two years, I watched it again on youtube, and now I think pac really won this close fight...
poinkero 1 year ago
Same here I had Pacqauio winning by one point 114 to 113 after i wached it on youtube.
gambit07jc85 1 year ago
They should fight once more. It would be pretty funny.
Whyavier 1 year ago
real fans know marquez won
wasimj2a2 1 year ago
marquez did
YOUNGANT90 1 year ago
@wasimj2a2
An actual boxing fans know that JMM left the fight in the hands of the judges and paid the price. He should've learned his lesson against Pacquiao and Chris John, but obviously, he didn't.
joesakic91 1 year ago
@wasimj2a2 yea people just see pacquiao as all this greatness and shit but if you just watch the fight not pacquiao you see marquez as the winner
buyneee 1 year ago
@buyneee
And JMM and his fans don't understand that JMM made the cardinal sin that you should not do against fighters especially against Manny Pacquiao: leave the fight in the hands of the judges.
It happens in boxing and it happens in MMA.
joesakic91 1 year ago
i hope larry merchant gets hit by a blimp cant stand vodka breathe bastard hes such a biased piece of shit commentator.
DaaMagicMan 2 years ago
I love Manny Pacquiao as a boxer, since he beat Julio whatever the fuck his name was on the Tyson-Lewis undercard. Will be an all-time great, but his fans on youtube are the worst, yall niggas want Pacquiao to sit on your faces. Complete tools, MArquez completely outboxed him, Israel Vazquez even convincingly beat Oscar Larios twice in better fashion than PAcquiao.
frEEturk 2 years ago
I had this 6-6 wit the KD stealin it for Pac. Never got all the outcry over the decision
Mangler312 2 years ago
Emanuel stewart - They could fight each other over and over again..it will always be the same way.. JMM gettin' Knock Down lol..
Zhorellski 2 years ago
marquez getting knocked down and pacquiao being outboxed
elcondepatula 2 years ago 2
@elcondepatula JMM gettin' a loss on his record.. should have been two..
Zhorellski 2 years ago
cisco19 and svntsvn get off each others nutts please!!!!-queers!
xfer25 2 years ago
get off pac's nuts, rider.
svntsvn 2 years ago
i like how pactards say they scored it wrong in the first fight, but wont accept that they scored it wrong for marquez the second fight. God i hate pactards. pac won the first, maybe, but anyone with no education could figure out that marquez won the second.
svntsvn 2 years ago
You're name calling is seriously gay, nor does it give you any edge on the argument. It just shows your low-level intellect, so stop for your own sake.
Your 1st sentence is ironic. All the JMM fans say the 1st match was scored right (when it has been proven to be wrong which is it's now looked as a draw), yet the 2nd match is BS because JMM lost (it was never said by officials to be a miscount so that argument is invalid).
cisco19 2 years ago
My logic is unbiased, that is why you cant figure it out. Wow, you are a lemming. Get off the nuts already.
svntsvn 2 years ago
Your logic is bias and you are just pretending it isn't. The only thing you've given in your posts is your gay flames that are seriously horrible. JMM did not win both those matches, not the second one. We all saw the knockdowns and we all know that gives an edge on points. You guys make it sound as if Pacquiao wasn't hitting anymore after the last knockdown. There were times in the later rounds where JMM almost fell. Due to the punches and the knockdown, logic shows who has the higher point.
cisco19 2 years ago
Actually, JMM took pac's one-two's away, and in the later rounds, he tried to box marquez, which failed. It was when his sloppy ass headbutted marquez, that he started to pressure, which failed as well. you are pinoy, so dont try to tell me your lame points, because boxing is scored on 4 criteria, not how much you hug nuts.
svntsvn 2 years ago
The last round went to JMM, but that did not narrow enough to cover the other Pac shots and the knockdowns that's why JMM came that close.
Idiot. You seriously are a twat giving out random excuses and thinking you are more professional than any of the judges.
What's funny is that you fail to mention the admitted SCORE ERROR in the first bout, in which JMM was announced as the winner by that mistake.. and you're pointing out nut huggers?
cisco19 2 years ago
aside from pacman marquez is my favorite.. he have my respect but looking at each round no matter how many times i watched it its almost a draw except for the knockdown
nognogscarbungco 2 years ago
I agree bro, I especially hate the people who say that regardless, pacquiao was declared the winner of the second match but say he won the first one, even though it was declared a draw regardless
Gus589 2 years ago
Those are the same biased pactard trash that say stuff like "kiss the canvas" and shit like that. They know shit about boxing and how to score it. I've seen calzaghe "kiss the canvas" and he is undefeated. lol. Yeah it is funny how they argue the judge in the first, but cant aknowledge the judges messed up in the second fight as well. You have to be retarded to think pac won. Look at him the whole way, he looked wasted going to his corner.
svntsvn 2 years ago
And I also know that JMM should not commit the cardinal sin for any fighter, but he did: Don't leave the fight in the hands of the judges.
joesakic91 2 years ago
i like how they compubox round 12 and back it up on hbo for marquez, and they still give round 12 to pac when he got fleeced. Thats only one round that was robbed. Fuck arum, he is known for buying judges and backed up by court deposition.
svntsvn 2 years ago
They gave it to pac because of the knockdowns.. it was based on effective punches not the numbers of punches. Pacquiao through the better punches because JMM hit the floor about 3 times. In reality, JMM would have went down 5x if it wasn't for the ropes to help his balance.
cisco19 2 years ago
You are a fucking retard. compubox backs up JMM's accuracy and numbers. He put a clinic on pac and pac and all the professionals know that. ALSO HE LOST ROUND 12 AND 3 OTHERS TO PAC. OBVIOUS GIFTS. LOOK AT PAC AT THE END TOO, LOSER.
svntsvn 2 years ago
That's some e-thugging there. The punches paq delivered sent JMM on the floor nearly 5 times (JMM hit the floor 3x but there where 2 extra blows that wobbled him. You didn't understand the compubox.. Statistically it was Marquez who landed the most hits on Pacquiao but Manny has landed the more meaningful shots in the fight (the knockdowns).
cisco19 2 years ago
learn how to score a fight. It is based on 4 factors. tired of babysitting you incessant pactards.
svntsvn 2 years ago
then what are you doing on your computer? go apply as a judge if your so fucking know it all
edzedz1 2 years ago
Well svntsvn, so what?
JMM maybe accurate, but Manny Pacquiao's punches did more damage and Pacquiao was the more aggressive fighter.
Also, don't blame Bob Arum. He wasn't the guy selecting the judges. The Nevada State Athletic Commission did.
If you want to blame someone, blame Duane Ford and Tom Miller who scored it for Pacquiao.
Also, blame JMM for committing the cardinal sin: leaving the fight in the judge's hands.
joesakic91 2 years ago
by effective, you dont include 3 punch combinations and counters, feints, and pure skill. By effective you mean slophouse flurries. That shit wont fly against cotto either.
svntsvn 2 years ago
Ya, and that was not included on the card. What gave Manny the winning points was the knockdowns because it's a show case of affective punches. JMM was sent hard on the floor on the 3rd round. Knockdowns show effective punches, and JMM was not knocked down nearly 5 times.
cisco19 2 years ago
pacman got the belt both times and it can not be changed in history also fuck of all those thick head bastards who says that many lost if you are so expert you should have to be on the judges chairs but you are not because you are barking here on pacman but it will not change history which is written that pacman won both fights
wjadoon 2 years ago
you said that nobody can change history, then that means the first one will go down as a draw. your trying to change it by saying pacman won both fights
Gus589 2 years ago
STUPID FUCK.
svntsvn 2 years ago
poor marquez he always claim that he is better than pacman but why fightfans dont want to see his fight,all his fights is outside Vegas and has co main event and free on TV unless he's fighting pacman. And now he already booked with famous Mayweather saying that it is mega event but still low tickets sales inspite of months of promotions and co-main event undercards,that's why still on ths shadows of barrera/morales.Their fight is far from pacman-cotto fight: speechless yet but almost sold out.
proudpacman 2 years ago
fuck pacquiao and all filipinos its all about MEXICO!!
323NELA 2 years ago
fuck you too and to the people of your country!!!
dick face!!! arrogant!! suck your own dick!!
wahahahaha...nice!!
BAYNUNAHLABORATORIES 2 years ago
my country is u.s.a. but im a fucken mexican u fucken white piece of shit
323NELA 2 years ago
ok,, fuck both of your country!!
hahahaha
BAYNUNAHLABORATORIES 2 years ago
fuck u fish face bitch with ur small ass asian dick haha marquez won every1 knows it
323NELA 2 years ago
in your dreams! bug-eating, piss drinking mexicunts! lol
junteddymadria 2 years ago
wtf bug eating... at least i dont eat dogs like u fucken chinese fucks... mexicans control the world of boxing every1 knows it even u do just admit it and get off my big MEXICAN dick bitch
323NELA 2 years ago 29
@323NELA lol denial...
coefficientko1 1 year ago
@323NELA Mexicans don't have big dicks, they have big hard heads. Back to the kitchen, beaner!
harkyo 1 year ago
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@harkyo "Mexicans don't have big dicks, they have big hard heads. Back to the kitchen, beaner!" dang that was hella racist but funny as hell
mabuang08 3 months ago
shut up dog eating sars breathing Juan manuel marquez is the phillpine assasin
Mig775 2 years ago
yeah, but i don't think pac-cotto is going to be in theaters like Marquez-Mayweather. and talking about (fightfans) haha who wanted to see David diaz vs Pacquiao?? it was in las vegas, the revenue flopped. the ppv flopped, barely 11.000k people were in the arena,
bonafide43 2 years ago
im glad marquez lost this fight.if dis was a draw or a marquez win, fine, no problem. but dis just made up for the wrong decision in the first fight. lederman had manny winning in dat fight, these commentators were already expecting manny 2 b given the win after d 12th round of d first fight bcoz in their eyes pac won.manny won the 1st fight. and besides if manny didnt fight marquez casual fans wouldnt even know he exist. marquez's claim to fame is having a draw and a split decision lost to pac.
dianawapooh 2 years ago
Marquez is dumb he punches 3 consecutive power punch at round 2 Pacman still standing. 1punch at third round JMM decks flying his feet like M Jordan. U r not d model of nike. MP is Nike endorser.
noelsaguid1 2 years ago
got a 4 inch plasma tv....watch this match times and clearly pac won
kaye0626 2 years ago
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187fatty 2 years ago
No wonder your wrong you only have a 4" plasma. how about you get a 60" lcd like me and watch the fight again
187fatty 2 years ago 2
187f'y...how did you scored the fight?
kaye0626 2 years ago
Manny took the first and JMM took the second. A championship fight is 12 rounds and not about 1 good round here or there. JMM got up like a warrior and gave Pacman the monster a ton of problems, or else we would be saying Pac beat Marquez by K.O, but he didnt and thats a fact. Pac has destroyed Men in different weight classes left and right and please exlclude the excuses. He beat ODLH, Hatton, and his speed probably too much for Cotto.All very capable fighters but this man made it to full 24rds
187fatty 2 years ago 2
pacquiao was hurt in the 2nd round and marquez was hurt in the 3rd and 10th round. all of the rounds was even no one got hurt. so the decision was fair 1 point lead for pacquiao. review the fight 50 times, still pacquiao lead by a point. suppose to be 2 points bcoz of the 3rd rnd K.O. marquez saw the shoes of the referee and the custom made nike of pacquiao when he hit the floor 4 times in 24 rounds.
cabelyada 2 years ago
gayquest vs gayweather THE RUNNING MAN VS THE WAITING MAN lol what a boring fight hahahahaha
DraGorian777 2 years ago
manny pac taking easy fights is boring
saponumberone 2 years ago
Ya Miguel Cotto is a easy fight??? ROFL GTFO out of here.
pinoykulet 2 years ago
who has manny pac beat?? name 1 undefeated fighter manny pac beat!!!
Erik morales lost a trilogy then lost a tune up fight then lost to manny pac!!! oscar de la hoya 36 year old part time fighter weight drained and lost 3 of his last 6 fights!!! hatton got K.O.ed by mayweather and mayweather is not even a power puncher!!! manny pac is a protected "padded" fighter!!!
saponumberone 2 years ago 2
What does beating someone undefeated show anyways???? That person whos normally undefeated usually are dodging bullets.
pinoykulet 2 years ago
ok well name a prime fighter that he beat!! manny pac is taking easy fights tha he knows he can win!! he sets weight limits he never fights the best at thir best!!! like when you put a mutt to fight a pitbull manny pac is a padded fighter!!!
saponumberone 2 years ago
JMM mostly fights outside of HBO and usually fights opponents in Mexico etc, who he usually fight nobodies.
Its his first weight limit fight idiot, just because he made Cotto become 145 hes now doing it continously?
Everytime Pacquiao fights, usually everyone say hes gonna get his ass beat, what happens all the sudden? His opponent either becomes out of prime, too old, c class fighter etc. MAKES ME LAUGH
pinoykulet 2 years ago
erik morales lost triligy and a tune up fight before he lost to manny pac tru or false?
Oscar de la hoya was ruled weight drained tru oe false?
oscar de la hoya has been a part time fighter since 2002 tru or false?
oscar de la hoya lost 2 of his last 6 fights tru or false?
ricky hatton got K.o. by mayweather tru or false
mayweather is not considered a power puncher but a tactical boxer tru or false?
im not just making this stuff up to piss you off its all tru!!!
saponumberone 2 years ago
yep, he fought morales who was clearly weight drained instead of stepping up and fighting the best. another cherrypick!!!!!!
svntsvn 2 years ago
no you dumb ass he made erik morales fight at 130 when erik morales said he could not make that weight anymore manny pac insisted on it!!! erik even fought his tune up fight at 135lbs and pleeded for manny to meet him at a catch weight of 132lbs and manny said no 130lbs!!! manny wants his opponents weak why you think he fought oscar at 147 but not cotto??
saponumberone 2 years ago 20
@saponumberone excuses...lol you know why they fought him too? cause they were wrong...
coefficientko1 1 year ago
@coefficientko1 make some sence then get back to me!!!
saponumberone 1 year ago
@saponumberone It's not manny himself, it's Arum and Freddie Roach... they know it's straight business. Lol.
NooneNewer 7 months ago
oops i mean oscar de la hoya lost 3 of his last 6 fights!!
saponumberone 2 years ago
on the other note,,, pacquiao got blisters and injured left hand the first time they fought, the second time, pacquiao hardly met the weight limit of 130lbs. and causes him a little bit drained and ballooned up abruptly fight night that's why he can't moved the way he does... marquez surely is a great fighter, a great warrior i salute him, but how you imagine pacquiao if he fought on his peak level of condition..in that case, the story battle might be close to an end.
jimel1215 2 years ago
idk much about jaun, but can he block? cuz pacman KD him 4 times
shaochiavang 2 years ago
Listen there are no excuses in boxing or in fighters. Everybody gets time to train and prepare. Marquez got knockdown and got up and fought back. If you look at Pacmans record he KO'ed the opponent before Marquez and after Marquez so dont give me this shit that he had weight issues and hand problems when all of sudden he fought Marquez. Bitch Please. And all the sweeter when Marquez takes the third against a nearly perfect Pacman and remember Marquez is 36
187fatty 2 years ago
Obviously this person is Juanita's prison boyfriend. get real, your fighter lost.
cjaguar1 2 years ago
you were right mancenido, pacquiao and marquez fought a close fight twice, and they were evenly match, but pacquiao is more ahead on points against marquez, people might had not seen pacquiao's punches bcoz of the lightning speed of his combination, but slow motion never lies, most of the punches pacquiao's thrown had got through to marquez's face and most of the punches marquez' s thrown had been blocked, viewers had just only been decieted by these both fighters speed posession.
jimel1215 2 years ago
pacquiao beat's marquez not once but twice because in their first fight the judge's say after the fight that there are wrong and some error's that favored marquez to have a draw in that fight
in their second fight manny boxing expert say's that marquez beat pacquiao i watch it many times and ive seen manny pacquiao beat marquez really because maybe the boxing expert did not see what the judge's see they do not see the lightning speed puches's of manny pacquiao landed in the face of dinamita
mancenido19 2 years ago
manny boxing expert say's that marquez beat pacquiao i
and bob arum has a history of bribing boxing officials!!!
makes you wonder!!
saponumberone 2 years ago 3
yeah thats true Filipino judges said that marquez beat him thats why marquez says he won and I say he won maybe not the first fight but the second it was his
Gus589 2 years ago
let mayweather fight them both and then decide. i had the second fight for marquez. When Marquez moved his head, he dominated pacman. When he didnt move his head or got caught, pacman was winning. i think he dominated for more rounds than he got caught. just my opinion. Pacquiao stands a better chance because of his speed but i think mayweather will walk him down the same way he did Judah. would rather see Mayweather vs Paul Williams. that would be the most entertaining fight to make right now.
basketballfreak24 2 years ago
williams is kinda out of the map for now he has 2 step up and fight mosely
ctamc9 2 years ago
im a pacman fan, and i do believe marquez won the fight..but still, manny deserves to be the p4p king and ring magazine coz the excitement of the fight he bring is jsut tremendous...and and he keeps moving up in weigh and wacking those big guys......get what i mean people?....now stop arguing
boang69 2 years ago
I think fans should just let the fight go.
No matter what happens in the scorecards from us or the judges the result still stands.
However, the result doesn't take away all the excitement that Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao brought in the ring for two action packed warrior bouts.
joesakic91 2 years ago 3
Compubox result:
Despite the above arguments in Marquez's favor, if a judge had based his card solely on who connected more on a round-by-round basis (which they don't), Pacquiao would have come out ahead 6-5-1, or 115-114. Incidentally, the even round occurred in the third, and had an extra point been awarded the scorecard would have read 115-113 Pacquiao, which would have been close to Duane Ford's card of 115-112.
Pacman won.
leipogue 2 years ago
Ok ok listen professor vin diesel once said and I quote "doesent matter if you win by an inch or a mile winning is winning" so stop with the bitching this aint his first loss so stop its over...
888thumbs 2 years ago
The only thing Juanita Manuela Marqueza won was a reputation of being a sore loser crybaby whiny bitch. You lost, build a bridge and get over it.
etp91 2 years ago
puto
traviecito1866 2 years ago
etp91 puto joto
traviecito1866 2 years ago
traviecito1866, stop talking about your whoring mother that way, haha!
etp91 2 years ago
CONTINUATIONpacman floored marquez FOUR TIMES with his feet up high and unconcios did'nt know where his corner is and if not by the referee he will sit also with pacman at the same stool(very funny)and marquez did'nt floored pacman EVEN once in their "24 ROUNDS" of fighting...it is easy to punch with style but with no power(marquez)coz you can pull your fist back again but bunches of punches with tremendous POWER & STYLE(pacman) that can send anyone to canvass, that separate pacman with marquez.
proudpacman 2 years ago
knocked him down not out dumb bitch you dont know shit about boxing it basically technique of fighting dumbass JMM was better than gayasspacman your just to stop that think kd some1 deserves a win well unless you beat them throughout the fight or out dumb bitch
GGGGGGGTHEBEST7 2 years ago
if he really dominate pacman he would knock pacman at least once in 24 ROUNDS OF FIGHTINGS or at least to pitiful situation like having wobbly legs or feet up high unconcios dont know where his corner is...Pacman always has a galant stand THROUGHOUT THE FIGHTS.what marquez did is punching quick to destruct pacquiao's aim but no power & no intention of knocking him down and that is not quality boxing, that is for he to look like that he is better than pacman,sorry for him it doesnt happenCONT.
proudpacman 2 years ago
Okay you have seen both fights in both he hurt manny and it was very visible in 1 fight by a body punch, and the other by a counter punch.
OPD4OG 2 years ago
your stupid boxing is not just about knocking down opponents unless you knock them out dumb shit
GGGGGGGTHEBEST7 2 years ago
it is easy to punch quick with style but with no power(marquez) just to destruct pacman's aim coz you can pull your fist back again and that is not quality boxing but bunches of punches with tremendous POWER & STYLE(pacman) that can send anyone to canvass, that separate pacman with marquez.
proudpacman 2 years ago
wat do u mean no power??? last time i checked both have 37 knock outs, with manny having one less fight than Marquez,.... dats y manny has a KO percentage of about mayb 1% or 2% higher than Marquez...... Marquez having da better chin never being TKOd, or KOd, while Manny has been KO'd 2 times... check your facts then have ur discussion... yes he can maybe send them 2 da canvass but clearly not the power puncher every1 makes him out 2 be
OPD4OG 2 years ago
not the power puncher? hehe what do you call the punch that made hatton fell and sleep in the canvass??? their faces speaks for itself, who has the most bruises on the face lands the most effective punches in the fight so accept it manny won the fight
mighk21 2 years ago 2
i never said he doesn't have power... i said he isn't the power puncher everyone think he is becuz he clearly is said to have more powe than JMM but its not really real bcuz he has as much knockouts as JMM n every1 thinks he is just a counter puncher its its not true...
OPD4OG 2 years ago
just count the times JMM fell on Pacman's fist... Pacman never fell on JMM's punches you're reasonings are baseless... its like talking to a 1 yr old:-S
mighk21 2 years ago 3
i feel like im talkin 2 da wind, i'm not talkin about knockdowns i'm talkin about knockouts, yes he knocked him down and hurt him but JMM hurt him too, but manny never knocked him out...
OPD4OG 2 years ago
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odiousodium 2 years ago
since you are such a genius in boxing, how then would you score the first round of their first fight? with 3 knockdowns the score should have been 10-6 not 10-7 the one judge scored the first fight which ended in a draw Pacman should have won the first fight, team pacquiao demanded marquez a rematch but marquez was a sissy he waited till pacman got a bigger name than him 4 yrs for a rematch dont throw crap all over you'll just look like one
mighk21 2 years ago
your an idiot pacman was the one running and dodging JMM ur an idiot that doesnt know shit which you r and i bet im better looking than your uglyass
GGGGGGGTHEBEST7 2 years ago
pacman won the two fights dream on im better looking than you... you fag
mighk21 2 years ago
couldnt have said it better!Pacman is afraid 2 fight JMM and it showed by him running from Marquez the whole fight but yes a 3rd fight is most def needed
tittyfuckn 2 years ago
CONTINUATIONpacman beat barrera twice convincingly put barrera(in his prime) 4 times on the deck while marquez did'nt! barrera knocked him down(funny) and if not for the point deduction barrera will win that fight for sure and I dont think also marquez can knock the hard chinned El Terrible(morales)like pacman did.pls see CONTINUATION
proudpacman 2 years ago
TO ALL: I think marquez is still way far from pacman when it comes to pound for pound rating as manny defeated great fighters...and I think pacman will convincingly beat diaz and casamayor much than marquez did, come to think if pacman will fight casamayor and diaz what will be the outcome and the betting odds?...... for sure it is much favored to pacman than marquez did...pls see CONTINUATION
proudpacman 2 years ago
I gave this fight for Manny by a thin margin. Let's accept some facts of this match that it could go either way. Win lose or draw to either guy is an acceptable verdict.
bad13mens 2 years ago
pacman won only 5 rounds marquez won 7 rounds.. round 1 and round 7 was robbed
colimote1978 2 years ago 3
let's all get over it. wait for a match 3! :)
paodomingo 2 years ago
its a 6 rounds a piece
Plush the Knockdown
in round 7 pacman clearly won it
go see it again
in round 1 pacman connected more blows
how is it robberry?
KNOW UR BOXING and KNOW HOW TO JUDGE A FIGHT
ind49errrr 2 years ago
the best experts of boxing all around the world say marquez won. and thats truth. u are not an expert.
colimote1978 2 years ago
really? all i heard was Max kellerman nd those unknown EXPERTS say marquez won
NOTE: PACQUIAO was WEIGHT DRAINED and STILL BEAT MARQUEZ in his own GAME...
ind49errrr 2 years ago
name them
ravenloft9 2 years ago
dats not da only way they score on fights, aggression as well, ring generalship, in which he was doing in most of da rounds, and he seemed to damage him more, besides da knock downs
OPD4OG 2 years ago
u fucken stupid boxing is not about ko's is about money don't be stupid mni09 MARQUEZ WIN THE 2 TIMES MARQUEZ #1
2139016 2 years ago 2
why doesnt larry merchant just give pacman a blow job . get it over with. biased twat.
BRADFORDRAMZI 2 years ago
lilgizmo has actually a fair comment in almost every post. I am filipino but i agree with what lilgizmo was talking about. Manny may have win but not as much. The third one would be great. I'll go with manny when that happens just because manny is continuing getting better. I notice from his two previous fights. No hate and let the judges do their job.
bimboy1980 2 years ago
JMM is tryin hard!!!its a big money fightin with pacman.....manny cleary won both fights////review the fight 100 times
yurmich 2 years ago
dont know which fight u watching . shit got knock out 3 time in 1 round. 1fight and got knock out agian in 2fight . and u expect to win shitttttt
vinhpham0007 2 years ago
It doesn't matter how many times you got knock down but how many times you get up and fight back and marquez has prove that...I bet when paquiao get knocked down once in a fight its going to be it and that time is coming watch...
silvahernandezd 2 years ago
It doesn't matter how many times you get knocked down? Of course it does. Get knocked once that's point deducted. If knock downs didn't matter JMM would have gotten the decision in both fights.
kozmikslop 2 years ago
Boxing isnt all about KO's dummy
mni09 2 years ago
ur a stupid bitch not kos knocked downs dumb shit big difference if he was like tyson then it would be all about kos but manny is a piece of shit next to JMM
GGGGGGGTHEBEST7 2 years ago
JMM is good but boring, Pacman is great and exciting to watch fight.
usetobethe1 2 years ago
WOW! You really believe that? I think that Marquez is the great one and the exciting one to watch. Marquez throws beautiful combinations, has better technique, and a better overall array of weapons. All Pacquiao does is fight going in and out. He has amazing speed, but that's it. I scored the first fight 114-111 for Marquez and the second fight 115-112 again for Marquez.
philtheo85 2 years ago
Juan Manuel Marquez doesn't deserve another rematch with Paquiao. He is disrespectful, a cry baby (him and his team), and he dodged Pacquiao for this rematch for a long time until Pacman got to be so big in boxing he can no longer ignore him. Now it's payback time, make Marquez beg, rant and rave for a rematch but don't give it to him.
Pacman vs Marquez III will not prove anything anymore other than the fact that Marquez, his fans and his team are a bunch of sore losers and habitual cry babies.
1fantasydrummer2 2 years ago
Marquez is 4-2-1(2k.o's) in championship title fights and Pacquiao is 8-1-1(7 k.o). Pac should be 9-1 but got cheated in the first Marquez fight.
saponumbreone 2 years ago
Marquez and Pac fought twice, 24 rounds where 6 different licensed judges scored the fight. FACTS: 1)3 judges scored for Pac, 2 judges scores for JMM and one scored it a draw(he did not score the fight correctly and gave Pac a 10-7 round when it should have been 10-6, had he scored it correctly it would be 4 judges Pac and 2 judges JMM). 2) Pac put Marquez on his ass 4times. Close fights but 4 out of 6 judges who scored the fights give it to Pacman.
saponumbreone 2 years ago
from a neutral brother......Marquez banged him up
darpachief 2 years ago
maybe marquez must fight fighters that can't make him kiss the canvass... so that his counter punching will stand out...
flip0905 2 years ago
pacquiao made marquez kiss the canvass 4 times!!! how embarrassing for marquez... even though marquez is a good counter puncher, pacquiao clearly hit marquez as much as marquez hit pacquiao....marquez fans didn't seen it because, of course, all the marquez' fans are all eyes at marquez's punches and movements and didn't see pacquiao's punches, because obviously, it was too fast. but how come you didn't see or credit the knockdown!?
flip0905 2 years ago
Marquez won more rounds against pacquiao in both fights tho
luvs2spooge93 2 years ago
I have looked at the 2 fights again and again. I tend to think that the draw was good on the first one, even though JMM schooled him for 10 rds. On the second one looking at the punches added on compubox, looking at rd per rd i think JMM won, but pac is protected by the gambling and PPV mafia since all filipinos throw a lot of money in vegas when fight time. They are looking to get the Asian market and what better way than help manny out. that is what filipinos can't realize.
evilnhate 2 years ago
No he didnt. you bring me your sister, she'll tell you if im gay.. Ignorant. Before you talk learn how to score a fight.
DoWrongHadesAwaits 2 years ago
These fights between Pacman and Marquez are Controversial. No one knows who is the best. Marquez went down but still did not win clearly.
DoWrongHadesAwaits 2 years ago 3
yes marquez was robbed here, he was robbed by a third round knockdown, marquez kiss the canvass.. LOL ^___^
kinetics01 2 years ago
Manny won the first and the second fight
edzdoll 2 years ago
larry merchant has to be the dumbest guy
snentz 2 years ago
no, you could be the dumbest guy coz he is the smartest guy in boxing, haha, this guy has been around for decades and do u think u know better?? u are preposterous!
lightkeeper08 2 years ago
get out of larrys arse.
snentz 2 years ago
This is nothing gainst Paquiao but Jerry Roth Is not a good judge he shouldnt be a Judge, has made many errors in the past
ReyDelWorld 2 years ago
manny pacquiao hits and runs!!!box bitch!!
paulista707 2 years ago
are u kidding me? pacquiao does NOT hit and run u fucking idiot your comment clearly shows that you know absolutley NOTHING about boxing and i bet your a mexican thats hating on pacquiao because they call him the mexecutioner...im not dissing mexicans im just sayin some of them are stupid and haters and cant take defeat... u people who hate pacquiao because hes beating mexicans should watch what he said in a Q&A meeting bitches.
b1GR33Nm0nSt3rRrRrRr 2 years ago
"im not dissing mexicans im just sayin some of them are stupid and haters and cant take defeat."......
I Think Regardless of nationalities everybody hates when their favorite fighter loses,If Pac-Man would have lost the same way, we would of had a bunch of Pinoy/Asian haters... Keep it real, It is human nature...
Osogreazee 2 years ago 3
pacquiao clearly won this fight biathc!!! are you gay?
boylife19 2 years ago
yea i know he clearly won u fucking faggot why are u replying to me?
b1GR33Nm0nSt3rRrRrRr 2 years ago
beacause you are gay!!! GAYEST person in the world!!1
boylife19 2 years ago
If im gay then bring me your sister. You know what? here in USA Filipinas love mexicans and for sure they dont think we are gay so Shut up and get the head out of your ass
DoWrongHadesAwaits 2 years ago
your name is boylife19..........fag
luvs2spooge93 2 years ago
how the hell is that gay?
happykid323 2 years ago
Jerry Roth should not be a judge in the Hatton v Pacquiao. He's so biased and opinionated that the only way an asian fighter could win against european is a knockout. Team Pacquiao should lodge a protest if Jerry Roth would be one of the judges. Wanna bet? Watch the way Jerry Roth would score the fight!
78795768 2 years ago
QUE QUIERE DECIR EN ESPAÑOL??
xhavi123 2 years ago
wow.... a lot of hostility! well i like both pacqioau and jmm...all i got to say is that if pacqioau really wanted to fight marquez again, they would've fought already but clearly pacqioau doesn't want to fight him again...but it doesn't matter tho cause marquez might get a shot at gayweather so pacqioau doesn't mean anything to jmm anymore!!! oh and for the record..i hate to say it but i think jmm won both fight with MP!
ponce597 3 years ago
shut the fuck up and go eat a dog u lil dick motherfuckers....
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