Sad, sad, sad day. Any one who is going to make fun of this is outright soulless. These are human beings. 96 innocent people just going to a football match. RIP from a blue.:(
@kiteeklol you'll actually find out if you done some fucking research, that Liverpool fans never breached the neutral zone because they were already in the neutral zone due to the fuck up by UEFA's ticketing department and the Liverpool fans charged at the Italians after a sustained period of shit, bottles of piss, bricks & rocks being thrown at them. The fella in charge of the Heysel Stadium went to prison, so did a senior Belgian FA member. So stick your nonsense up your shitty arse you ill-i
Mufc 4 life this is a day for remembrance and peace....football rivalry should not get in the way of this, stocking comments like those are disrespectful and can hurt alot of people and offend them. Remember this isn't a rivalry yes it's Liverpool but everyone should respect Liverpool and Nottingham forest fans from that dreadful day....
@mrtoptenatten I'm not really a Scouser I'm from the wirral but I'm a major Liverpool fan. But you typing comments like this about such a serious and devistating event not just to Liverpool Supporters but to World Football. Is disbiciable, you really should be ashamed of yourself!!
Thirty-nine Juventus fans died and 600 were injured.
Approximately one hour before the Liverpool-Juventus final was due to kick off, a large group of Liverpool fans breached a fence separating them from a "neutral area" which contained rival Juventus fans. The Juventus fans ran back on the terraces and away from the threat into a concrete retaining wall. Fans already seated near the wall were crushed; eventually the wall collapsed. Many people climbed over to safety, but many others died.
Rest In Peace, all victims of this horrible disaster. I am a Liverpool fan and this really makes me feel bad. I am only 16 years old so I don't feel the same pain as the others here who lost relatives or friends but you have my deep condolences. That's what I love about the Liverpool spirit, they always stay together and even though they don't know each other they are still like brothers. About those who mock the dead they can't value human life, just don't give those fat fucks any attention.
@Alexandros673 96 Liverpool fans were crushed to death. there was only one small tunnel for the fans to enter the stadium there were too many fans and people were crushed. through no fault of the LFC fans. but the SUN newspaper wrote outrages lies about the events.
Today an MP from Liverpool raised the issue of media interferring with the course of justice during the Live Debate from the Commons on the phone-hacking scandal by News of the World.
@sa2491 The police weren't arranged properly and just let everyone flood in instead of in smaller groups and the first people went to the gates and then more and more people flooded in and chrushed them against the gates and they couldn't breath.
my mother worked at sheffield hospital, she was on duty this day she quit after this as the sights stayed with her till the day she died. 96 people not hero's just normal people died and there only wish on the day was to watch there hero's win a football game, this day will never be fogotten and rightly so.
@WKaliberr You hope it happens again ???? you sicko you are a disgrace to the human race i wonder if you dare stand toe to toe with one of the victims relatives and look them in the eye and repeat what you are saying here? my guess is no so go and crawl back under your stone and take your sun news paper with you
@WKaliberr i suggest everyone reports this tosser that way you tube will cancell his account,simple,if he wants to act like a prick then treat him like one.
Rest In Peace the 96 souls that tragically lost their lives 22 years ago today, You'll Never Walk Alone.
JFT96.
As for the people ridiculing the loss of life that occurred at Hillsborough 22 years ago today they need to take a look at themselves in the mirror and realise what pathetic low lifes they are. Any loss of life is a shame but to make fun of it is sick and twisted. The likes of twiggo66 et al. need to get a grip on life and realise football is just a game, retarded cunts.
i really dont get how people can blame this on the liverpool fans, they were fans who went out that day supporting the team they loved and sadly 96 never returned home to their families, in my opinion the police let them down big time, dont take the piss out of what happened, if you do then you arent a football fan, the 96 people deserve justice! RIP, YNWA!<3
@Loz1996babes A group of Liverpool supporters were waiting patiently to get in. Their manners exemplary in every facet of their conduct. Upon seeing this mass of impeccably behaved football supporters the Chief constable felt a moments pride at his nation queuing skills and upon shedding a small tear opened the gates.....
there it its is an Ambulance appeared !!! there where a total of 44 Ambulances not aloud in out side !!! 1 let in ,they where murdered by South Yorks Police ask the bastards why only 1 was let on to the pitch !! RIP THE 96
I would like to publicly apologise for the crude, disgusting and evil comments that I've made on this video a few years back. What I did back then was simply unacceptable and no amount of excuses can justify them in any way.
The username that I used back then was MsAmeliaJane
Once again I'm truly sorry for my actions and I hope you can forgive me. TQ
Im a Rangers fan, and the only outcome of this was the police had blood on their hands due to fatal errors, read the Taylor Report, its all in that. Incidentally, i dont know why poeple go on about the fans being boozed up and turning up late, that was common place back then, and in fact it still is today, i see it all the time whether at a football game or concert. Its how the police etc manage the large crowds, with safetly paramount, that counts. RIP 96 who were let down by the Establishment
The people on here making fun of the Liverpool 96 are nothing but sick retard bastards see how you feel when a member of ur family die's and people laugh and joke about it
It wasn't so dark that they couldn't have known it was already crammed full, yet like I said with the mob mentality ("the massive numbers single-mindedly determined to be in for the kick-off" - Lord Taylor) they carried on in anyway without regard for the safety of their fellow fans. They may not started with bad intentions, but their behaviour was nonetheless irresponsible and played its part in the tragedy.
@ashleytisdale101girl the police essentialy drove all of the liverpool supporters who had 6 pens open to them into two pens. they caused the back of the crowed to push on the front ans there was only one way in or out. apart from some gates onto the pitch. if the police had closed the tunnel to the two pens the other supporters would havr gone around but they didint so people where forced into the two pens. people where then crushed against the metal fence. people then started spilling
@theworldisyettobe The police didn't cause the crush, that was caused by a large number of late, probably tanked (and possibly ticketless) Liverpool fans trying to push their way into the full pens, without regard for the safety of their fellow supporters. The police mistakes were to open the gates outside (which was done to prevent a crush there) and to not close off the full pens. A lot of people to blame that day, including fans, although not those who lost their lives. RIP the 96.
@FlaviusConstantius the police hid and fiddled with evidence and fave false evidence if thats not guilt i dont know what is. im doing this in law and have read eyewithness acounts and case studys. the officer in charge ordeed the arrest of liverpool fans who spilled onto the pitch for pite sak. he refused to allow ambulances onto the pitch. it was the fault of not the supporters but the thatof those who failed to plan and failed to act aka the police
@theworldisyettobe What was the cause of the crush? Fans piling into an already overcrowded section of the ground. Yes the stewarding/organisation was poor and yes the ground itself was inadequate in many ways but ultimately the cause of the crush was fans with a mob mentality, charging forward without regard for the consequences. I never said the police were blameless. Clearly they have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility. But they weren't the only ones at fault that day.
@FlaviusConstantius the tunnel leading to the pen was long and dark people couldnt see into the pens fro the back of the tunnel so the supporters didnt know what was happening. nearly all of the liverpool supporters had never been to hillsborough satdium before so they didnt know about the other pens to them this was the way to go the kind of "im lost so ill follow them" mentality rather than mob mentality. the cus eof the crush was too may people who dodnt know the ground being left to find
@theworldisyettobe Hillsborough had hosted hundreds of matches before, including semi-finals etc and they didn't all end like this. A lot of unfortunate factors coincided here. I've already agreed wrt bad policing and the problems the stadium already had, however the other key factor which caused the crush was a large mob of fans let into the ground by the police (to prevent a crush outside) and most of whom headed for a favored part of the ground, despite it already being full.
@FlaviusConstantius continued: there own way with only one clear root to the game where they where about to miss kick off. if the police or the FA supervisors had place sighnes or closed one door the entier disaster could have been diverted. hell if the police had even directed people to the other pens but the poice where outed many times saying "theyed find there own level" aka if they find the pen uncomfterble they will shift to a diffrent one. but the tunnel was so small that was impossible
@ashleytisdale101girl continued: onto the pitch being cut on the barbwire. others being crushed to death agains the walls and fences. the police then kept the ambulances and firemen with wire cutters from geting onto the pitch. 97 people died on the day. the police then said that it all happened because of the supporters being drunk they lied in there reports. they also destroyed evidence and gave fauls reports. no one whent to prison for the hillsborough disaster.
@ all the heartless cunts who think its funny to take the piss. Imagine driving to a football game with your best mate or your son and having to drive back without them knowing that your never going to see them again. It could have happened to any team and any set of fans so show some fucking respect.
who's that choking on their vomit who's that turning fucking blue it's a scouser and his mate crushed behind the hillsboro gates and they won't be singing munich anymore. people screaming are you listening fences rattling bodies clattering oh what a wonderful sight we're so happy tonight walking in a hillsboro wonderland. 1 scouse 2 scouse 3 scouse 4 all got crushed on a sheffield floor 96 dead bastards was the final score but we're still not happy? cos' we all wanted more
@williammannix123 have respect , nobody killed anyone , it was a tradgic disaster portrayed as drunk hooligans in the press to grab ignorant and gullible people like you
@vivtotiv you sound like the scummy tabloids at the time,Heysel was entirely different,two sets of fans fighting each other resulting in death is different too innocent men,women and children being crushed too death.If that's justice to you,then your either an idiot or worse an attention seeking sicko.
terrible, as you can see from my name im a manc and i hate liverpool as much as the next united fan but singing about hillsborough is not right. its about rivarly and banter but bringing death into it is horrible. One of the true tragedys of hillsborough tho was the way they blamed it on the fans and standing when it was the police and terrible mangement of the day. Thats the real thing to blame. Bring back the terraces. AGAINIST MODERN DAY FOOTBALL. LUHG
@vitotiv you cunt , not only are you mechining heysels 39 victims in vain but you blame kopites and 96 dead? you disrespectful cunt , if only you know what happened on that day , as my dad was there , you would realise the severity of it
The Truth; some fans picked pockets of victims; some fans urinated on the brave cops; some fans beat up PC giving kiss of life. It's clear that many hundreds of Liverpool fans travelled to Hillsborough even though they didn't have tickets for the game. Shortly before the match started it appears that these fans were able to get into the ground through a gate at the Leppings Lane end.One report says the gate was kicked down by a huge crowd of Liverpool suporters who did not buy tickets
Hillsbrough was about poor stadium design and crowd organisation. This is why Uefa will not allow Terraces or pens in football stadiums. Tribal mentality dcs002 what are you talking about. It was a tragedy brought about by complacency nothing else. It was too late but the 96 people who needlessly died that day saved lives at rock concerts, sporting events or any other events were large numbers of people gather. The world learned how not to do it. RIP and thanks to the fans for their sacrifice.
@powzer100 I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but again my comment is taken out of context. Tribal mentality is meant to refer to hooliganism (and American street gangs), which had nothing to do with Hillsborough. It was in response to those who would relate Heysel to Hillsborough. I'm in total agreement with you.
R.I.P. 39 of Heysel and english people or Hillsborough, but FUCK NOW AND FOREVER REDS ANIMALS!!!
Today, 21 October 2010 the liverpool fans are in Italy, for Europa League, Peace and FUN for english civil people and family (You ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IN ITALY), KNIVES FOR ANIMALS !!!!!
@twiggo66 MUNICH WAS FUNNY, BUT HILLSBOROUGH JUST PIPS IT? What sort of sad imbecile freak are you? I'm a Man United fan, and Munich is very close to my heart, it's a major part of the clubs history. The fact that I'm a United fan means I hate Liverpool Football Club, but what sad bastards like you don't realise is that 96 fans being killed at a Cup Semi Final goes beyond football or any of it's rivalries. Any true football fan respects their fellow fans.
History repeats itself. Today 18+ people died at Loveparade Duisburg 2010. Keywords: Too many crowd - Tunnel - Police who diened early warnings. My thoughts are with those who's lives ended for now and earlier days ...
If beardsley didnt hit the bar with his shot early on, it wouldnt have created the surge forward that killed those people! it could have been manageable only for that!
@twiggo66 ...roflrofl ...lovin' it...two incidents in the last 15 years is the best u can come with?
london has 10x more stabbings than the rest of the country put together.
u know fcuk all about liverpool...ur just a teenage nonentity cowering behind a lappie in his bedroom at his ma's...desperate for a little negative attention.
@twiggo66 ...50-60,000 LFC fans at istanbul and no arrests at all, now thats something to be celebrated. got a UEFA commendation for good behaviour. the difference between athens and istanbul was the size of the stadium and the poor organization in athens.
u stink of bitter rentboy, twiggo. cant blame u for being desperate...one of the worst hooligan scum clubs in england, infested by combat 18, gets bought up by a jewish sugar daddy who invests £700m and U STILL CANT WIN IN EUROPE rofl
@twiggo66 ur the lowest form of scum, a meaninless nobody so desperate for attention u'll do anyhting to attract it. spank, spank. bet u were born in a cellar and ur dad fondled u when u were a kid.
nobody knows wot happened in athens, just an isolated mugging incident, happens everyday in ur council estate in stab city. as for "ticketless fans" at hillsborough - combined H&S analysis and turnstile analysis proved there wasnt a "significant issue with ticketless fans".
Mr Wells, who was manning one of the ambulances on site before the match began, said that he took an oxygen tank up to the barrier to try to help the fans who were being crushed from behind. "They had their hands tied to their sides. They were vomiting and could not get the vomit out of their mouths. We tried to free the airways with our hands and give them oxygen. It was a terrible experience which I hope I will never ever see again. They were completely helpless.''
@twiggo66..SG was our best player at WC, which isnt saying much. and jon paul was too short to do anything but stay on his feet.
as for liverpool fans, they werent angels but didnt "loot shops", they did a bit of nicking on the continent, there are no confirmed reports of stabbings at LFC games, "raped women" is a joke, and everyone knows hetsel was a terruble accident. RIP the 39.
but u - chickenshite twiggo - have been at this trolling lark for more than 3 years. its lame and desperate.
every anniversary these hillsborough threads are always full of rival fans posting RIP, which proves that ur the cunt who deserves to die.
obviously ur a retarded teenage youth custody reject otherwise u wouldnt be posting "the shame LFC fans brought on the game week in week out", when everyone alive at the time knows that LFC werent a hoolie club and didnt have a proper hoolie firm.
chelsea, millwall, manure, leeds, west ham etc did.
...the statement read "Accountability has always lain with South Yorkshire Police. The Taylor report was quite clear in where blame lay. South Yorkshire Police fully accept their responsibility for the Hillsborough disaster. The force knows where it went wrong in a flawed operation and the leadership issues that led to the deaths of so many people." Chief Constable Meredyd Hughes, South Yorkshire Police.
Hi, I can not understand why there are sad cunts on here, I wonder how these cunts would feel if same of there cunt friends or family were at the game and died. That would be a diffrent story would'nt it. I think that they should make a vdeo out of this.
I want to say that the 96 that passaway - You will not be forgotten by all the real soccer fans around the world, Not the real bad fans
@bigbaddwolff You clearly never attended a Liverpool match against UTD during the 70's and 80's or you would have heard the munich taunts your in denial or your to wrapped up in your own self pity to know how much munich hurt UTD, YOU Nare the scum denying the itallian famillies there grief by not admitting your guilt i'm gonna do something ive never done before and lower myself to your level YOU ARE SELF INDULGENT MURDERING GENOCIDAL SCUM
ROFL!!...finding ur true level, more like. when u start SHOUTING ur are clearly losing the argument.
i was a regular attender homw and away late 60s to mid 80s and i never heard a munich chant or ever took part in one.
nor have i have posted munich on YT..EVER. i know all about the history of munich and how it robbed manure and england of the first truly nationally-hyped team in history. the fact that manure has so many non-manchester based fans is testament to that fact.
@bigbaddwolff and you dont have non liverpool based fans? and i aint losing fuck all why do you ave to describe UTD as manure? its childish! and if you never heard a munich chant you werent there or more likely youve got selective memory you horrible disgusting murdering cunt
@reddan73 ..manure is a term of endearment which hardly approaches the arrogance of describing ur own team in capital letters.
i never heard a munich chant at anfield, ive never taken part in one, ive never commented munich. actually we didnt pay much attention to manure in the 70s and 80s, u were a joke. our main rivals were everton, forest and leeds
and yes, of course LFC have non-liverpool-based fans, all the big clubs do nowadays, but u were the original gloryhunters club.
@bigbaddwolff just like your a joke now? you've fallen outta the top 4 and in danger of goin further down hill our rivals are arse, chelsea and ciddy your team is nowt mate bye bye
@reddan73... amazing then that ur still so obsessed with us. 20 years without the title and u still havent beaten our record....ROFL!
23 Oct 2009
The Scot said: "Manchester United and Liverpool games, as I have said many times, are without question massive games. That will never change. It is the kind of game when I came to the club 23 years ago, I thought 'Yeah'.
"It is THE game as far as I am concerned, that won't change."
seems ur own manager is more honest than u...ROFLROFL!!
@bigbaddwolff it was the game 20 years ago i admit that, (do you know what admit means) but now you lot ave fallen off the radar screen in terms of titles more bothered about arse chelski and hate to admit it (that word again) ciddy. erm ROFL HYTRIIKJ FHGHHJFDDF HGFRRRRRGHJIY whatever that means
suit urself...i suppose thats why ur scummy fans sang "are u watching merseyside" at every game at the Old Toilet in the run-in the season before last - including ur title celebrations.
and lord safa said it before the game at anfield last season, u know the one we won 2-0 and n'gog scored ...rofl rofl. ur obviously one of these AHDH victims and living proof of why u mancs will always be IN OUR SHADOW!
more importantly, i dont infest munich memorial vids posting vile lies and exploiting the deaths for my own personal jollies.
the 32 italian families got their justice....14 liverpool fans, a police captain and the head of the belgian FA were all charged and found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.
in other words, the belgian enquiry found that liverpool fans were not solely to blame, and quite rightly so.
but the worst of it is - to add insult to injury - if it wasnt enough to kill 96 innocent fans including children through incompetence - the campaign of lies and evidence tampering by the SY police to pass the buck for the tragedy onto Liverpool fans.
And this was underpinned by the stories in the Sun - described by the Press Council as unequivocal lies - that tarnished the reputation of LFC and the city of Liverpool, and which muppets like u still believe.
if u have more than 10,000 fans arriving at an away game with only 3 turnstiles to access the game u need some sort of crowd control measures in place = fact. that applies to chelsea fans too.
duckenfield was inexperienced at crowd control - despite police experiences of exactly the same match the previous year. HE FAILED IN HIS DUTY, then he panicked and opened gate C.
Research shows that overall within the UK, 90% of people support the view that SYP and others were at fault for the disaster, and think that there should be some kind of JUSTICE FOR THE 96. A mere 10% blamed the fans.
Even in Manchester, it pretty much sticks with the national average.
So it seems fairly obvious that ur one of a minority of brainwashed muppets who wont accept the facts....and those are..
@reddan73 ...90% of you tubers are chicken shits and teenage muppets.
Hillsborough Attitudes Survey Report
Conducted for Radio City, Liverpool, and Radio Hallam, Sheffield
Rex Nash and Sam Johnstone, Football Industry Group
University of Liverpool, April 1998
u could find it on the net in 10 seconds, muppet. and in the last 12 years, attitudes have swung every more in favour of Liverpool fans...especially as the SYP finally admitted that they were responsible.
I have no idea what happened here, i'm Scottish but I've never heard of this till today. So what happened were there just loads of fans climbing into the stadium and it was too small? or was it like too many people trying to get on the pitch? Sorry if I come off offensive by not knowing about this tragic event.
@clarkgun ...its a long story, but to cut it short.
10,000 LFC fans arrived at Hillsbrough for a cup semi-final. Some of them were late due unannounced roadworks on the M62. With 15 minutes to kick-off, due to lack of crowd control measures and only 3 turnstiles, the police allowed a cruch to develop outside the ground.
The supervising officer panicked and opened one of the entry gates, allowing too many into the central pens in the Leppings Lane End, and 96 fans were crushed to death.
The scandal is, adding insult to injury, the SY police lied about wot happened and tampered with evidence, claiming that drunken, ticketless fans had charged the gate and broken it down etc. The Sun newspaper also printed a campaign of lies that Liverpool fans had robbed the dead and pissed on them - described by the Press Council as "unequivocal lies".
All the lies were disproved by the official Taylor inquiry and LFC fans were exonerated, but we're still fighting for justice.
seriously (I'm not setting out to offend anyone) can someone explain what is meant by the well used term 'Justice for the 96.' At what point would those campaigners say: 'well that is justice at last.' Very moving film awful thing to have happened.
RIP the 96 from a celtic fan from scotland, all these dicks that say all this sick shit deserve to get shot, thats someones grandparent ,son,daughter,mother or father ,it wud be a different story if it happened to one of ur family, the police were out of line at the time and so were they cunts that write the sun , respect to liverpool fans and anyone that lost someone that day
@twiggo66 Sometimes I wonder if separating fans of opposing teams is what allowed such hatred toward opposing fans to grow. It's supposed to be about the game, so why not just hate the players on the other team?
I know Liverpool has a history of violence. In the US we were just as disgusted and saddened by the hooliganism at Heysel and elsewhere, but it's not "the Liverpool fans" who did that. It's hooligans who did that, and those hooligans supported Liverpool. Hooligans are not "the fans."
@beaudjangles They're just the same as each other - some tossers, some not, some kids, some elders, some violent, some peaceful, some even heroic. (Look at videos of the Bradford City Valley Parade fire disaster 25 years ago to see heroic fans, police, athletes, everyone.)
It's no fun having opposition fans yelling from the seats right behind you, but it's really nice when my team scores and I get to give them that smug look... They'll even smile sometimes and say "nice one!"
@ollecarlsson I guess at some point mob mentality takes over and otherwise decent people can get caught up, but it all has to start with bad behavior (which anyone can make a mistake and slip into), and a violent response to that bad behavior, which people can refuse to do. A violent response to taunting (for example) is simply unacceptable and wrong. I know that's not hooliganism, strictly speaking, but IMO it's just as bad. But that's my set of values, and I understand other people differ.
@twiggo66 Here in the US, fans of opposing teams are not separated, and we tend to think of each other as, well, fans of the opposing team. We meet each other and sometimes get to know each other during a game. Probably the greatest rivalry in American football is between the Green Bay Packers and the Minnesota Vikings (my team). But we don't riot. We just yell louder when our team scores. And you can get all the beer you want at a Vikings game.
@kevmac11494 You do have a valid point if that's the case. I live in Minnesota and have never experienced Red Sox/Yankees fan rivalry. But to me it's just as baffling as hooliganism elsewhere.
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I suppose it was a bit wrong of me to represent my view as the American standard. I can only comment on what I've experienced.
@dcs002 dude its all about "bad behavour" is "straight to jail" that setup the rules in america, in europe a sorta nasty behaviour is ok, I mean walking dead drunk with a bottle in your hand in america, that is like looking for trouble....
@smoochym It's not a competition. Racial lynching is something shameful in my country's history. Slaughtering the indigenous peoples of this land was far worse, and both are far more shameful than hooliganism, IMO. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about sports fans and hooligans.
@dcs002 THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HOOLIGANS YOU FUCKING COCK, GET A FUCKIN BRAIN CELL AND THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED YOU FUCKING MUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@gard069 Chill out my friend! I KNOW Hillsborough had nothing to do with hooliganism. I'm on your side! I think you read something I posted out of context. IMO, the Hillsborough disaster was caused primarily by police incompetence, made even more tragic and shocking by the systematic police cover-up and total lack of accountability. I've actually read the entire Taylor report (interim and final). I understand this much better than you think.
@dcs002 Actually, I think hooliganism was a factor. Due to fans having to be kept apart (otherwise there was violence) the Liverpool fans - many more of them - had to have the smaller, more cramped end of the ground from the direction their fans would approach the match. Had they had the larger end, there would not have been the same risk.
There also was a form of accountability because the police admitted liability for negligence and paid damages.
@THthefirst You make a valid point, but from my distant perspective in the US, it seems a very minor point. Had Duckenfield not frozen, had the police simply blocked off the tunnel, had more ambulances been allowed onto the field, had their been cordons directing the Liverpool ticket holders into orderly queues, etc., this would have been avoided. And had the organizers understood that more Liverpool fans would require more entry facilities, had they planned for that, no one need have died.
@dcs002 Indeed, there are numerous causes. You left off the fact that had thousands of Liverpool fans not arrived without tickets and tried to push their way in (a standard tactic at the time), there would have been no congestion (or less) in the first place. Had football fans been able to act like adults, segregation would not have been necessary and the team with the bigger support base (L'pool) could have had the larger stand.
Many factors contributed, not just the police's negligence.
@THthefirst Where is the evidence that "thousands of Liverpool fans" arrived without tickets and tried to push in? That was studied carefully and refuted in the Taylor interim report. Do you have evidence of this that Lord Justice Taylor didn't have?
I guess there are factors and there is culpability. Misbehaving fans would be culpable, but who misbehaved? A police force with demonstrated expertise in crowd management that fails to employ that expertise is culpable. I mean the liar Duckenfield.
@dcs002 If it wasn't for football hooliganism, there would have been no need for segregation of fans, and so no need to have to cram the larger number of Liverpool fans into one tiny end. Therefore, football hooliganism, which Liverpool fans had certainly played their part in the years immediately before the tragedy, was a major factor.
Equally, the police were negligent. They addmitted this, and damages were paid. Clearly money is no real compensation, but in law that is what you get.
@THthefirst I agree with nearly all of this. Prior hooliganism necessitated a response, though the well-intentioned response of setting up inescapable pens was inappropriate, as we sadly learned in hindsight. And yes, I understand the thinking that led to giving Liverpool fans the Leppings Lane approach, but with those decisions came the responsibility (which had been met once before) to manage the crowds -- cordons along the streets for ticket-holders & blocking the tunnel. That's culpability.
@dcs002 I just want to add that I understand you've thought this through, and I thank you for using reason rather than the more pervasive knee-jerk emotional response without thought. I appreciate that, and that's why I give your comments so much attention. We agree on most causal factors concerning this disaster, with the apparent exception of the role of fan behavior on that day (the non-ticket holders pushing in).
@THthefirst Thats a complete myth. Another victim of the Scums smear campaign-aimed at ignorants like you mate. Ticketless fans has been dismissed as a contributing factor. At fault The Police, The FA, Sheff Wed and The Government. Police's negligence was clearly the biggest factor-some common sense and this would never of happened.
@cockywatchman1976 I suggest you read the Taylor Report (Final) before you start labelling others as "ignorant", paras 269-270. He states about ticketless fans,
"there undoubtedly were some. Obviously, the practice of admitting fans without tickets has a bad knock-on effect. Bands of fans unable to get tickets believe that if they turn up and create sufficient clamour the police will admit them.
@cockywatchman1976 (contd) It is intolerable that those with no tickets should be able to blackmail their way into a ground. "If you don't let us in we'll force the gates or wreck your town", is not a
threat to which a police force should submit. The policy of admitting such people is also unfair to those who
have taken the trouble and spent money to buy tickets. (contd)
@THthefirst Complete crap. Every match has some fans without tickets. If you police correctly and check tickets then it will have no consequence. The Taylor report CLEARLY states that ticketless fans/forged tickets DID NOT play a significant factor in the disaster. You ARE ignorant, since you focus on the points you want to, a classic Sun reader. No doubt you get it delivered to your door. Im not going to respond any further to the nonsense you have written-its like trying to explain evolution
RIP from a MUFC fan
WolfgangVonPoserkila 1 week ago
Sad, sad, sad day. Any one who is going to make fun of this is outright soulless. These are human beings. 96 innocent people just going to a football match. RIP from a blue.:(
USsoccer4evr 3 weeks ago
-informed undereducated gobshite. Now fuck off
ScouserL5 1 month ago
@kiteeklol you'll actually find out if you done some fucking research, that Liverpool fans never breached the neutral zone because they were already in the neutral zone due to the fuck up by UEFA's ticketing department and the Liverpool fans charged at the Italians after a sustained period of shit, bottles of piss, bricks & rocks being thrown at them. The fella in charge of the Heysel Stadium went to prison, so did a senior Belgian FA member. So stick your nonsense up your shitty arse you ill-i
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I would like to see this film
a1974h 1 month ago
i feel sorry for the 96 dead and that's from a united fan. real football fans would mourn these deaths unlike fake *football* cunts
gerjerry99 2 months ago
Liverpool not overcool, that was my spellcheck
Liam2621 3 months ago
I think the overcool fans arriving late and ticketless need to accept some responsibility as well as the police.
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w w w (dot) liverpoolfc.tv/video/interview/9935-steve-rotheram-speech-in-full
bifaybump 3 months ago
Mufc 4 life this is a day for remembrance and peace....football rivalry should not get in the way of this, stocking comments like those are disrespectful and can hurt alot of people and offend them. Remember this isn't a rivalry yes it's Liverpool but everyone should respect Liverpool and Nottingham forest fans from that dreadful day....
acedood12 3 months ago
one of the saddest days in football history
this is coming from a Manchester United supporter
VocaaLz 3 months ago 3
R.I.P from Denmark :(
achorsens4ever 4 months ago
R.I.P to all those fans, such a sad story <3
does anyone know where i can watch the drama online? :/
connorjeffery1 4 months ago
its a pity you scoucers dont put as much effort into finding a job as you do telling the whole world of you tragedy........move on
mrtoptenatten 4 months ago
@mrtoptenatten I'm not really a Scouser I'm from the wirral but I'm a major Liverpool fan. But you typing comments like this about such a serious and devistating event not just to Liverpool Supporters but to World Football. Is disbiciable, you really should be ashamed of yourself!!
Kopite4life12 3 months ago
@mrtoptenatten lol!!!!!
FALLENFORFISH 2 months ago
R.I.P from a fan of Manchester United
lebron23mvp1 4 months ago
Thirty-nine Juventus fans died and 600 were injured.
Approximately one hour before the Liverpool-Juventus final was due to kick off, a large group of Liverpool fans breached a fence separating them from a "neutral area" which contained rival Juventus fans. The Juventus fans ran back on the terraces and away from the threat into a concrete retaining wall. Fans already seated near the wall were crushed; eventually the wall collapsed. Many people climbed over to safety, but many others died.
Kireeklol 4 months ago
Fucking police again bastards
ad1665 5 months ago
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Rest In Peace, all victims of this horrible disaster. I am a Liverpool fan and this really makes me feel bad. I am only 16 years old so I don't feel the same pain as the others here who lost relatives or friends but you have my deep condolences. That's what I love about the Liverpool spirit, they always stay together and even though they don't know each other they are still like brothers. About those who mock the dead they can't value human life, just don't give those fat fucks any attention.
BjarniBoyNR2 5 months ago
@4t44t434t I bet your parents are very proud that they've raised a sad excuse of a human being like yourself.
MeathDrog 6 months ago
what happened in Hillsbrough to Liverpool fans ?
Alexandros673 6 months ago
@Alexandros673 96 Liverpool fans were crushed to death. there was only one small tunnel for the fans to enter the stadium there were too many fans and people were crushed. through no fault of the LFC fans. but the SUN newspaper wrote outrages lies about the events.
its more complex than that but that's a summery
20cFilmWannabe 6 months ago
Today an MP from Liverpool raised the issue of media interferring with the course of justice during the Live Debate from the Commons on the phone-hacking scandal by News of the World.
TreeofTruth7 6 months ago
Looks like a must-see documentary. I'd no idea of this 'other' story behind the Hillsbrough tragedy. Its enough to put you off being in large crowdsr.
RiP
RonSkem 7 months ago
How can People Laugh and make jokes?! When I found out I almost cried! R.I.P to the 96
Fatkidslurvglee 9 months ago
R.I.P the 96 , I'm so angry this was allowed to happen makes me feel sick tbh
bigmangiff 9 months ago
wheres a link for this film
zemiaz333 9 months ago
Wat happend how did ppl dye
sa2491 9 months ago
@sa2491 The police weren't arranged properly and just let everyone flood in instead of in smaller groups and the first people went to the gates and then more and more people flooded in and chrushed them against the gates and they couldn't breath.
Fatkidslurvglee 9 months ago
my mother worked at sheffield hospital, she was on duty this day she quit after this as the sights stayed with her till the day she died. 96 people not hero's just normal people died and there only wish on the day was to watch there hero's win a football game, this day will never be fogotten and rightly so.
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WKaliberr 9 months ago
@WKaliberr You hope it happens again ???? you sicko you are a disgrace to the human race i wonder if you dare stand toe to toe with one of the victims relatives and look them in the eye and repeat what you are saying here? my guess is no so go and crawl back under your stone and take your sun news paper with you
TheYorkowl 8 months ago 2
@WKaliberr i suggest everyone reports this tosser that way you tube will cancell his account,simple,if he wants to act like a prick then treat him like one.
stellastey 8 months ago
I like to think of my Dad as a hero, as he was one of the people who survived the horrific events of Hillsborough.
He was in belfast when it happened.
chugger2hotty 9 months ago
@chugger2hotty Get of this video this is no place to make jokes am a manc and i still respect all the 96 scousers that past away R.I.P
iCaMiiKaZe 9 months ago
@chugger2hotty
huh?
Tevez2468 9 months ago
I'm a Preston fan, but I still have maximum respect for those lost. RIP <3
kneengeorge 9 months ago
Justice for 96, fuck The Sun.
MUFC127 9 months ago
Rest In Peace the 96 souls that tragically lost their lives 22 years ago today, You'll Never Walk Alone.
JFT96.
As for the people ridiculing the loss of life that occurred at Hillsborough 22 years ago today they need to take a look at themselves in the mirror and realise what pathetic low lifes they are. Any loss of life is a shame but to make fun of it is sick and twisted. The likes of twiggo66 et al. need to get a grip on life and realise football is just a game, retarded cunts.
mbradylad 9 months ago
JUSTICE TO THE 96!
jonedwards88 9 months ago
He said the last bit well
"ordinary fans going to a football game but not coming home"
redhairisawsome 9 months ago
i really dont get how people can blame this on the liverpool fans, they were fans who went out that day supporting the team they loved and sadly 96 never returned home to their families, in my opinion the police let them down big time, dont take the piss out of what happened, if you do then you arent a football fan, the 96 people deserve justice! RIP, YNWA!<3
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@Loz1996babes A group of Liverpool supporters were waiting patiently to get in. Their manners exemplary in every facet of their conduct. Upon seeing this mass of impeccably behaved football supporters the Chief constable felt a moments pride at his nation queuing skills and upon shedding a small tear opened the gates.....
Kireeklol 4 months ago
there it its is an Ambulance appeared !!! there where a total of 44 Ambulances not aloud in out side !!! 1 let in ,they where murdered by South Yorks Police ask the bastards why only 1 was let on to the pitch !! RIP THE 96
heighwaysonthewing 10 months ago
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I would like to publicly apologise for the crude, disgusting and evil comments that I've made on this video a few years back. What I did back then was simply unacceptable and no amount of excuses can justify them in any way.
The username that I used back then was MsAmeliaJane
Once again I'm truly sorry for my actions and I hope you can forgive me. TQ
YNWA and God bless the 96!
ichoose2say 11 months ago
u munich cunts how would you like to be killed then laughed at JFT96 YNWA
MrLfctorres9 11 months ago
Im a Rangers fan, and the only outcome of this was the police had blood on their hands due to fatal errors, read the Taylor Report, its all in that. Incidentally, i dont know why poeple go on about the fans being boozed up and turning up late, that was common place back then, and in fact it still is today, i see it all the time whether at a football game or concert. Its how the police etc manage the large crowds, with safetly paramount, that counts. RIP 96 who were let down by the Establishment
daviebluenose 11 months ago
The people on here making fun of the Liverpool 96 are nothing but sick retard bastards see how you feel when a member of ur family die's and people laugh and joke about it
damashi09 11 months ago
It wasn't so dark that they couldn't have known it was already crammed full, yet like I said with the mob mentality ("the massive numbers single-mindedly determined to be in for the kick-off" - Lord Taylor) they carried on in anyway without regard for the safety of their fellow fans. They may not started with bad intentions, but their behaviour was nonetheless irresponsible and played its part in the tragedy.
FlaviusConstantius 11 months ago
wait, wat happen? wer ther like a lot of ppl there or somethin? am soo confuse
ashleytisdale101girl 1 year ago
@ashleytisdale101girl the police essentialy drove all of the liverpool supporters who had 6 pens open to them into two pens. they caused the back of the crowed to push on the front ans there was only one way in or out. apart from some gates onto the pitch. if the police had closed the tunnel to the two pens the other supporters would havr gone around but they didint so people where forced into the two pens. people where then crushed against the metal fence. people then started spilling
theworldisyettobe 1 year ago
@theworldisyettobe The police didn't cause the crush, that was caused by a large number of late, probably tanked (and possibly ticketless) Liverpool fans trying to push their way into the full pens, without regard for the safety of their fellow supporters. The police mistakes were to open the gates outside (which was done to prevent a crush there) and to not close off the full pens. A lot of people to blame that day, including fans, although not those who lost their lives. RIP the 96.
FlaviusConstantius 11 months ago
@FlaviusConstantius the police hid and fiddled with evidence and fave false evidence if thats not guilt i dont know what is. im doing this in law and have read eyewithness acounts and case studys. the officer in charge ordeed the arrest of liverpool fans who spilled onto the pitch for pite sak. he refused to allow ambulances onto the pitch. it was the fault of not the supporters but the thatof those who failed to plan and failed to act aka the police
theworldisyettobe 11 months ago
@theworldisyettobe What was the cause of the crush? Fans piling into an already overcrowded section of the ground. Yes the stewarding/organisation was poor and yes the ground itself was inadequate in many ways but ultimately the cause of the crush was fans with a mob mentality, charging forward without regard for the consequences. I never said the police were blameless. Clearly they have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility. But they weren't the only ones at fault that day.
FlaviusConstantius 11 months ago
@FlaviusConstantius the tunnel leading to the pen was long and dark people couldnt see into the pens fro the back of the tunnel so the supporters didnt know what was happening. nearly all of the liverpool supporters had never been to hillsborough satdium before so they didnt know about the other pens to them this was the way to go the kind of "im lost so ill follow them" mentality rather than mob mentality. the cus eof the crush was too may people who dodnt know the ground being left to find
theworldisyettobe 11 months ago
@theworldisyettobe Hillsborough had hosted hundreds of matches before, including semi-finals etc and they didn't all end like this. A lot of unfortunate factors coincided here. I've already agreed wrt bad policing and the problems the stadium already had, however the other key factor which caused the crush was a large mob of fans let into the ground by the police (to prevent a crush outside) and most of whom headed for a favored part of the ground, despite it already being full.
FlaviusConstantius 11 months ago
@FlaviusConstantius continued: there own way with only one clear root to the game where they where about to miss kick off. if the police or the FA supervisors had place sighnes or closed one door the entier disaster could have been diverted. hell if the police had even directed people to the other pens but the poice where outed many times saying "theyed find there own level" aka if they find the pen uncomfterble they will shift to a diffrent one. but the tunnel was so small that was impossible
theworldisyettobe 11 months ago
@ashleytisdale101girl continued: onto the pitch being cut on the barbwire. others being crushed to death agains the walls and fences. the police then kept the ambulances and firemen with wire cutters from geting onto the pitch. 97 people died on the day. the police then said that it all happened because of the supporters being drunk they lied in there reports. they also destroyed evidence and gave fauls reports. no one whent to prison for the hillsborough disaster.
theworldisyettobe 1 year ago
@theworldisyettobe aha thanx..sucks for them:( clearer now!
ashleytisdale101girl 11 months ago
RIP Liverpool
horrible cunts
kenetic182nd 1 year ago
@ all the heartless cunts who think its funny to take the piss. Imagine driving to a football game with your best mate or your son and having to drive back without them knowing that your never going to see them again. It could have happened to any team and any set of fans so show some fucking respect.
joshuk666 1 year ago 68
@joshuk666 why who was takin the piz ?
zemiaz333 9 months ago
Dopo juve liverpool ancora coinvolti "the animals" la giustizia divina ha fatto il suo corso...
piepana 1 year ago
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pretentiouscrap 1 year ago
football holigans killed these people
williammannix123 1 year ago
@williammannix123 have respect , nobody killed anyone , it was a tradgic disaster portrayed as drunk hooligans in the press to grab ignorant and gullible people like you
MikeyIsEpic 1 year ago
@williammannix123 what r u talking about
dannymb86 1 year ago
@vivtotiv you sound like the scummy tabloids at the time,Heysel was entirely different,two sets of fans fighting each other resulting in death is different too innocent men,women and children being crushed too death.If that's justice to you,then your either an idiot or worse an attention seeking sicko.
tankdrives2 1 year ago
terrible, as you can see from my name im a manc and i hate liverpool as much as the next united fan but singing about hillsborough is not right. its about rivarly and banter but bringing death into it is horrible. One of the true tragedys of hillsborough tho was the way they blamed it on the fans and standing when it was the police and terrible mangement of the day. Thats the real thing to blame. Bring back the terraces. AGAINIST MODERN DAY FOOTBALL. LUHG
busbybabesmufc 1 year ago 2
justice for heysel!!!! hillsbrough is yours redemption. that is the price you had to pay
vitotiv 1 year ago
@vitotiv They had their justice, Fucktard
Nino9LFC 1 year ago
@vitotiv you cunt , not only are you mechining heysels 39 victims in vain but you blame kopites and 96 dead? you disrespectful cunt , if only you know what happened on that day , as my dad was there , you would realise the severity of it
MikeyIsEpic 1 year ago
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The Truth; some fans picked pockets of victims; some fans urinated on the brave cops; some fans beat up PC giving kiss of life. It's clear that many hundreds of Liverpool fans travelled to Hillsborough even though they didn't have tickets for the game. Shortly before the match started it appears that these fans were able to get into the ground through a gate at the Leppings Lane end.One report says the gate was kicked down by a huge crowd of Liverpool suporters who did not buy tickets
FlGHTCLUB 1 year ago
so sad, that so many people had to pay the highest price possible because of a simple lack of organisation.
symba 1 year ago
Hillsbrough was about poor stadium design and crowd organisation. This is why Uefa will not allow Terraces or pens in football stadiums. Tribal mentality dcs002 what are you talking about. It was a tragedy brought about by complacency nothing else. It was too late but the 96 people who needlessly died that day saved lives at rock concerts, sporting events or any other events were large numbers of people gather. The world learned how not to do it. RIP and thanks to the fans for their sacrifice.
powzer100 1 year ago
@powzer100 I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but again my comment is taken out of context. Tribal mentality is meant to refer to hooliganism (and American street gangs), which had nothing to do with Hillsborough. It was in response to those who would relate Heysel to Hillsborough. I'm in total agreement with you.
dcs002 1 year ago
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3 giorni fa 3 I read JUSTICE.... JUSTICE... what is Justice??
I believe it was JUSTICE, it is GOD's REVENGE for 1985 (Heysel disaster caused by liverpool animals)
well, why always there are this (red) animal of Liverpool??
RIP the english people but fuck yesterday, today and forever the animals of liverpool....
WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU...
R.I.P. 39 of HEYSEL
l3roi77 1 year ago 9
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Hillsborough - God`s revenge for Heysel...
We`ll never forget you...
R.I.P. 39 of Heysel and english people or Hillsborough, but FUCK NOW AND FOREVER REDS ANIMALS!!!
Today, 21 October 2010 the liverpool fans are in Italy, for Europa League, Peace and FUN for english civil people and family (You ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IN ITALY), KNIVES FOR ANIMALS !!!!!
l3roi77 1 year ago 4
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I read JUSTICE.... JUSTICE... what is Justice??
I believe it was JUSTICE, it is GOD's REVENGE for 1985 (Heysel disaster caused by liverpool animals)
well, why always there are this (red) animal of Liverpool??
RIP the english people but fuck yesterday, today and forever the animals of liverpool....
WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU...
R.I.P. 39 of HEYSEL
l3roi77 1 year ago 4
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I read JUSTICE.... JUSTICE... what is Justice??
I believe it was JUSTICE, it is GOD's REVENGE for 1985 (Heysel disaster caused by liverpool animals)
well, why always there are this (red) animal of Liverpool??
RIP the english people but fuck yesterday, today and forever the animals of liverpool....
WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU...
R.I.P. 39 of HEYSEL
l3roi77 1 year ago 3
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Hillsborough - God`s revenge for Heysel...
We`ll never forget
R.I.P.
l3roi77 1 year ago 2
Eyewitness accounts describe a Police Horse being "lifted clear off it's feet" by the pressure of the packed crowd in the turnstiles area.
digglyda 1 year ago
i am an everton fan, its a time that affected the entire city, very hard to watch.
Rip.
Sm1878 1 year ago 28
@Sm1878 thank for your comment.
LiverpoolSardinia 1 year ago
Yes, the coppers made mistakes. No, they didn't have the crowd control skills they have today.
But many, many people turned up without tickets and pushed their way in. It's on the CCTV footage.
Same old Liverpool "victim mentality." It's always 100 percent someone else's fault...
zlatapraha 1 year ago
@zlatapraha FUCKING PRICK
gard069 1 year ago
@gard069 Very interesting, professor. I will take your learned remarks on board...
zlatapraha 1 year ago
@twiggo66 MUNICH WAS FUNNY, BUT HILLSBOROUGH JUST PIPS IT? What sort of sad imbecile freak are you? I'm a Man United fan, and Munich is very close to my heart, it's a major part of the clubs history. The fact that I'm a United fan means I hate Liverpool Football Club, but what sad bastards like you don't realise is that 96 fans being killed at a Cup Semi Final goes beyond football or any of it's rivalries. Any true football fan respects their fellow fans.
Mikeb1001 1 year ago
@Mikeb1001 Well said.
Nino9LFC 1 year ago
History repeats itself. Today 18+ people died at Loveparade Duisburg 2010. Keywords: Too many crowd - Tunnel - Police who diened early warnings. My thoughts are with those who's lives ended for now and earlier days ...
0242ddd 1 year ago
If beardsley didnt hit the bar with his shot early on, it wouldnt have created the surge forward that killed those people! it could have been manageable only for that!
wide2thebuzz 1 year ago
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@twiggo66 re-read what you just said, you will get yours
kevmac11494 1 year ago
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@twiggo66 die a slow death cunt
stenoliverpool 1 year ago
@twiggo66 die a slow death cunt
stenoliverpool 1 year ago
@twiggo66
Exactly.
This is an example of how stupid, barbaric and selfish people were in that stadium. All the fuckheads there are better off dead.
ThebanPhalanx 1 year ago
@ThebanPhalanx die a slow death cunt
stenoliverpool 1 year ago
I've watched this on the box, very well written piece of drama, but at the same time very moving too.
MeBenHalpin 1 year ago
@twiggo66 ...roflrofl ...lovin' it...two incidents in the last 15 years is the best u can come with?
london has 10x more stabbings than the rest of the country put together.
u know fcuk all about liverpool...ur just a teenage nonentity cowering behind a lappie in his bedroom at his ma's...desperate for a little negative attention.
how do u know it was gerry who did it (scottish)
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66 ...dont try and pretend ur literate. all u do is regurgitate bollox from the redtops.
ur not very good at this...5-0 to me
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66 ...50-60,000 LFC fans at istanbul and no arrests at all, now thats something to be celebrated. got a UEFA commendation for good behaviour. the difference between athens and istanbul was the size of the stadium and the poor organization in athens.
u stink of bitter rentboy, twiggo. cant blame u for being desperate...one of the worst hooligan scum clubs in england, infested by combat 18, gets bought up by a jewish sugar daddy who invests £700m and U STILL CANT WIN IN EUROPE rofl
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66 ur the lowest form of scum, a meaninless nobody so desperate for attention u'll do anyhting to attract it. spank, spank. bet u were born in a cellar and ur dad fondled u when u were a kid.
nobody knows wot happened in athens, just an isolated mugging incident, happens everyday in ur council estate in stab city. as for "ticketless fans" at hillsborough - combined H&S analysis and turnstile analysis proved there wasnt a "significant issue with ticketless fans".
keep trying.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
Mr Wells, who was manning one of the ambulances on site before the match began, said that he took an oxygen tank up to the barrier to try to help the fans who were being crushed from behind. "They had their hands tied to their sides. They were vomiting and could not get the vomit out of their mouths. We tried to free the airways with our hands and give them oxygen. It was a terrible experience which I hope I will never ever see again. They were completely helpless.''
now that's "funny"
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66..SG was our best player at WC, which isnt saying much. and jon paul was too short to do anything but stay on his feet.
as for liverpool fans, they werent angels but didnt "loot shops", they did a bit of nicking on the continent, there are no confirmed reports of stabbings at LFC games, "raped women" is a joke, and everyone knows hetsel was a terruble accident. RIP the 39.
but u - chickenshite twiggo - have been at this trolling lark for more than 3 years. its lame and desperate.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66 ...speak for urself, ur "no one".
every anniversary these hillsborough threads are always full of rival fans posting RIP, which proves that ur the cunt who deserves to die.
obviously ur a retarded teenage youth custody reject otherwise u wouldnt be posting "the shame LFC fans brought on the game week in week out", when everyone alive at the time knows that LFC werent a hoolie club and didnt have a proper hoolie firm.
chelsea, millwall, manure, leeds, west ham etc did.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66
...the statement read "Accountability has always lain with South Yorkshire Police. The Taylor report was quite clear in where blame lay. South Yorkshire Police fully accept their responsibility for the Hillsborough disaster. The force knows where it went wrong in a flawed operation and the leadership issues that led to the deaths of so many people." Chief Constable Meredyd Hughes, South Yorkshire Police.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
Hi, I can not understand why there are sad cunts on here, I wonder how these cunts would feel if same of there cunt friends or family were at the game and died. That would be a diffrent story would'nt it. I think that they should make a vdeo out of this.
I want to say that the 96 that passaway - You will not be forgotten by all the real soccer fans around the world, Not the real bad fans
AucklandWarriors2009 1 year ago
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some of you people commenting are absolutely disgusting. just remember - what goes around comes around.
becciboo26 1 year ago
some of you people coomening are absolutely disgusting. just remember - what goes around comes around.
becciboo26 1 year ago
@becciboo26 couldn't agree more mate just like we suffered munich taunts for years city are next like you say what goes round come round
reddan73 1 year ago
@reddan73 ...the munich taunts is the standard vile lie that scum like u use to justify ur pathetic puerile behaviour.
u might have even started it when u chanted 'shankly 81' when he died. pathetic.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@bigbaddwolff You clearly never attended a Liverpool match against UTD during the 70's and 80's or you would have heard the munich taunts your in denial or your to wrapped up in your own self pity to know how much munich hurt UTD, YOU Nare the scum denying the itallian famillies there grief by not admitting your guilt i'm gonna do something ive never done before and lower myself to your level YOU ARE SELF INDULGENT MURDERING GENOCIDAL SCUM
reddan73 1 year ago
@reddan73
ROFL!!...finding ur true level, more like. when u start SHOUTING ur are clearly losing the argument.
i was a regular attender homw and away late 60s to mid 80s and i never heard a munich chant or ever took part in one.
nor have i have posted munich on YT..EVER. i know all about the history of munich and how it robbed manure and england of the first truly nationally-hyped team in history. the fact that manure has so many non-manchester based fans is testament to that fact.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@bigbaddwolff and you dont have non liverpool based fans? and i aint losing fuck all why do you ave to describe UTD as manure? its childish! and if you never heard a munich chant you werent there or more likely youve got selective memory you horrible disgusting murdering cunt
reddan73 1 year ago
@reddan73 ..manure is a term of endearment which hardly approaches the arrogance of describing ur own team in capital letters.
i never heard a munich chant at anfield, ive never taken part in one, ive never commented munich. actually we didnt pay much attention to manure in the 70s and 80s, u were a joke. our main rivals were everton, forest and leeds
and yes, of course LFC have non-liverpool-based fans, all the big clubs do nowadays, but u were the original gloryhunters club.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@bigbaddwolff just like your a joke now? you've fallen outta the top 4 and in danger of goin further down hill our rivals are arse, chelsea and ciddy your team is nowt mate bye bye
reddan73 1 year ago
@reddan73... amazing then that ur still so obsessed with us. 20 years without the title and u still havent beaten our record....ROFL!
23 Oct 2009
The Scot said: "Manchester United and Liverpool games, as I have said many times, are without question massive games. That will never change. It is the kind of game when I came to the club 23 years ago, I thought 'Yeah'.
"It is THE game as far as I am concerned, that won't change."
seems ur own manager is more honest than u...ROFLROFL!!
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@bigbaddwolff it was the game 20 years ago i admit that, (do you know what admit means) but now you lot ave fallen off the radar screen in terms of titles more bothered about arse chelski and hate to admit it (that word again) ciddy. erm ROFL HYTRIIKJ FHGHHJFDDF HGFRRRRRGHJIY whatever that means
reddan73 1 year ago
@reddan73 ...LMFAO!!!...
suit urself...i suppose thats why ur scummy fans sang "are u watching merseyside" at every game at the Old Toilet in the run-in the season before last - including ur title celebrations.
and lord safa said it before the game at anfield last season, u know the one we won 2-0 and n'gog scored ...rofl rofl. ur obviously one of these AHDH victims and living proof of why u mancs will always be IN OUR SHADOW!
4-1 to me.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@reddan73
more importantly, i dont infest munich memorial vids posting vile lies and exploiting the deaths for my own personal jollies.
the 32 italian families got their justice....14 liverpool fans, a police captain and the head of the belgian FA were all charged and found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.
in other words, the belgian enquiry found that liverpool fans were not solely to blame, and quite rightly so.
RIP the 39
in memoria e amicizia
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@bigbaddwolff Oh and what does ROFL mean? sorry but i speak English not internetise
reddan73 1 year ago
@reddan73 ...funny that, seeing as u spend so much of utr worthless life trolling on tragedy vids hating.
heres an useful educational tool for u...google "define ROFL"
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66 ur u fuckin bell end u
kylel8 1 year ago
but the worst of it is - to add insult to injury - if it wasnt enough to kill 96 innocent fans including children through incompetence - the campaign of lies and evidence tampering by the SY police to pass the buck for the tragedy onto Liverpool fans.
And this was underpinned by the stories in the Sun - described by the Press Council as unequivocal lies - that tarnished the reputation of LFC and the city of Liverpool, and which muppets like u still believe.
THAT's why were still fighting!
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
if u have more than 10,000 fans arriving at an away game with only 3 turnstiles to access the game u need some sort of crowd control measures in place = fact. that applies to chelsea fans too.
duckenfield was inexperienced at crowd control - despite police experiences of exactly the same match the previous year. HE FAILED IN HIS DUTY, then he panicked and opened gate C.
the rest is history.
RIP the 96.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66
Research shows that overall within the UK, 90% of people support the view that SYP and others were at fault for the disaster, and think that there should be some kind of JUSTICE FOR THE 96. A mere 10% blamed the fans.
Even in Manchester, it pretty much sticks with the national average.
So it seems fairly obvious that ur one of a minority of brainwashed muppets who wont accept the facts....and those are..
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@bigbaddwolff Whio is this mysterious 90%? was anyone on YT ever asked? i wasn't a "poll" if you wil of you tubers
reddan73 1 year ago
@reddan73 ...90% of you tubers are chicken shits and teenage muppets.
Hillsborough Attitudes Survey Report
Conducted for Radio City, Liverpool, and Radio Hallam, Sheffield
Rex Nash and Sam Johnstone, Football Industry Group
University of Liverpool, April 1998
u could find it on the net in 10 seconds, muppet. and in the last 12 years, attitudes have swung every more in favour of Liverpool fans...especially as the SYP finally admitted that they were responsible.
JFT96
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@twiggo66 ...thats a vile lie. LFC do not "have a history of it". LFC isnt a hooligan club, we didn't even have a proper hoolie firm.
Heysel was an aberration...the first and only time in nearly 20 years of Euro competition form the mid 60s that LFC fans were involved in a kick-off.
the real hoolie clubs were Man Utd, Chelsea, Millwall, W Ham, Leeds and a couple of smaller ones.
Man Utd have a far worse record of misbehaviour in the last 40 years, and Hillsborogh was the police's fault!
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
I have no idea what happened here, i'm Scottish but I've never heard of this till today. So what happened were there just loads of fans climbing into the stadium and it was too small? or was it like too many people trying to get on the pitch? Sorry if I come off offensive by not knowing about this tragic event.
clarkgun 1 year ago
@clarkgun ...its a long story, but to cut it short.
10,000 LFC fans arrived at Hillsbrough for a cup semi-final. Some of them were late due unannounced roadworks on the M62. With 15 minutes to kick-off, due to lack of crowd control measures and only 3 turnstiles, the police allowed a cruch to develop outside the ground.
The supervising officer panicked and opened one of the entry gates, allowing too many into the central pens in the Leppings Lane End, and 96 fans were crushed to death.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@clarkgun
The scandal is, adding insult to injury, the SY police lied about wot happened and tampered with evidence, claiming that drunken, ticketless fans had charged the gate and broken it down etc. The Sun newspaper also printed a campaign of lies that Liverpool fans had robbed the dead and pissed on them - described by the Press Council as "unequivocal lies".
All the lies were disproved by the official Taylor inquiry and LFC fans were exonerated, but we're still fighting for justice.
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
seriously (I'm not setting out to offend anyone) can someone explain what is meant by the well used term 'Justice for the 96.' At what point would those campaigners say: 'well that is justice at last.' Very moving film awful thing to have happened.
widlad7 1 year ago
@twiggo66 FUCK YOU
windows98sucks 1 year ago
Its so - i dont know what i should say. RIP 96!
5t1ng3r1909 1 year ago
We didn't expect anything else from the liverpool fans, huge retards, after Heysel 85, this.
snappycruise 1 year ago
can i get a link for this film?
looks interesting
AccessSmitty 1 year ago
RIP the 96 from a celtic fan from scotland, all these dicks that say all this sick shit deserve to get shot, thats someones grandparent ,son,daughter,mother or father ,it wud be a different story if it happened to one of ur family, the police were out of line at the time and so were they cunts that write the sun , respect to liverpool fans and anyone that lost someone that day
krusty240 1 year ago
what is it with the complete twats commenting on this? pathetic..
fiiixuplooksharp 1 year ago
fuck england
fingo92 1 year ago
twiggo66 i'd love 2 see u say that to stevie gerrards face u halfbred, sick, fuck..
seafortha 1 year ago
twiggo66 i'd love 2 see u say that to stevie gerrards face u halfbred, sick, fuck..
seafortha 1 year ago
R.I.P 96
Respect from a Arsenal fan
gunnerfucker1 1 year ago
@twiggo66 Sometimes I wonder if separating fans of opposing teams is what allowed such hatred toward opposing fans to grow. It's supposed to be about the game, so why not just hate the players on the other team?
I know Liverpool has a history of violence. In the US we were just as disgusted and saddened by the hooliganism at Heysel and elsewhere, but it's not "the Liverpool fans" who did that. It's hooligans who did that, and those hooligans supported Liverpool. Hooligans are not "the fans."
dcs002 1 year ago 2
@dcs002 this separation bullshit creates a divide in peoples heads too. when will they realize they're all tossers
beaudjangles 1 year ago
@beaudjangles They're just the same as each other - some tossers, some not, some kids, some elders, some violent, some peaceful, some even heroic. (Look at videos of the Bradford City Valley Parade fire disaster 25 years ago to see heroic fans, police, athletes, everyone.)
It's no fun having opposition fans yelling from the seats right behind you, but it's really nice when my team scores and I get to give them that smug look... They'll even smile sometimes and say "nice one!"
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002
Liverpool don't have a "history of violence" unless u count one single tragedy 25 years ago as a "history".
And Heysel was far more complex than just a hooligan kick off. it was also a UEFA stitch up.
RIP the 39
in memoria e amicizia
bigbaddwolff 1 year ago
@dcs002 it doesnt take a god damn hooligan to be a part of this shitty sports bad behaviours.....
ollecarlsson 1 year ago
@ollecarlsson I guess at some point mob mentality takes over and otherwise decent people can get caught up, but it all has to start with bad behavior (which anyone can make a mistake and slip into), and a violent response to that bad behavior, which people can refuse to do. A violent response to taunting (for example) is simply unacceptable and wrong. I know that's not hooliganism, strictly speaking, but IMO it's just as bad. But that's my set of values, and I understand other people differ.
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002 nope there will always be rivalry between fans
left4deadzombiessss 1 year ago
@twiggo66 Here in the US, fans of opposing teams are not separated, and we tend to think of each other as, well, fans of the opposing team. We meet each other and sometimes get to know each other during a game. Probably the greatest rivalry in American football is between the Green Bay Packers and the Minnesota Vikings (my team). But we don't riot. We just yell louder when our team scores. And you can get all the beer you want at a Vikings game.
I'll never understand hating opposing fans.
dcs002 1 year ago 7
@dcs002 i disagree, red sox yankees and they actually do get in fights
kevmac11494 1 year ago
@kevmac11494 You do have a valid point if that's the case. I live in Minnesota and have never experienced Red Sox/Yankees fan rivalry. But to me it's just as baffling as hooliganism elsewhere.
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I suppose it was a bit wrong of me to represent my view as the American standard. I can only comment on what I've experienced.
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002 dude its all about "bad behavour" is "straight to jail" that setup the rules in america, in europe a sorta nasty behaviour is ok, I mean walking dead drunk with a bottle in your hand in america, that is like looking for trouble....
ollecarlsson 1 year ago
"I'll never understand hating opposing fans."
And i'll never understand lynching black people. There could be worse things to do in your spare time.
smoochym 1 year ago
@smoochym It's not a competition. Racial lynching is something shameful in my country's history. Slaughtering the indigenous peoples of this land was far worse, and both are far more shameful than hooliganism, IMO. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about sports fans and hooligans.
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002 THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HOOLIGANS YOU FUCKING COCK, GET A FUCKIN BRAIN CELL AND THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED YOU FUCKING MUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gard069 1 year ago
@gard069 Chill out my friend! I KNOW Hillsborough had nothing to do with hooliganism. I'm on your side! I think you read something I posted out of context. IMO, the Hillsborough disaster was caused primarily by police incompetence, made even more tragic and shocking by the systematic police cover-up and total lack of accountability. I've actually read the entire Taylor report (interim and final). I understand this much better than you think.
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002 Actually, I think hooliganism was a factor. Due to fans having to be kept apart (otherwise there was violence) the Liverpool fans - many more of them - had to have the smaller, more cramped end of the ground from the direction their fans would approach the match. Had they had the larger end, there would not have been the same risk.
There also was a form of accountability because the police admitted liability for negligence and paid damages.
THthefirst 1 year ago
@THthefirst You make a valid point, but from my distant perspective in the US, it seems a very minor point. Had Duckenfield not frozen, had the police simply blocked off the tunnel, had more ambulances been allowed onto the field, had their been cordons directing the Liverpool ticket holders into orderly queues, etc., this would have been avoided. And had the organizers understood that more Liverpool fans would require more entry facilities, had they planned for that, no one need have died.
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002 Indeed, there are numerous causes. You left off the fact that had thousands of Liverpool fans not arrived without tickets and tried to push their way in (a standard tactic at the time), there would have been no congestion (or less) in the first place. Had football fans been able to act like adults, segregation would not have been necessary and the team with the bigger support base (L'pool) could have had the larger stand.
Many factors contributed, not just the police's negligence.
THthefirst 1 year ago
@THthefirst Where is the evidence that "thousands of Liverpool fans" arrived without tickets and tried to push in? That was studied carefully and refuted in the Taylor interim report. Do you have evidence of this that Lord Justice Taylor didn't have?
I guess there are factors and there is culpability. Misbehaving fans would be culpable, but who misbehaved? A police force with demonstrated expertise in crowd management that fails to employ that expertise is culpable. I mean the liar Duckenfield.
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002 If it wasn't for football hooliganism, there would have been no need for segregation of fans, and so no need to have to cram the larger number of Liverpool fans into one tiny end. Therefore, football hooliganism, which Liverpool fans had certainly played their part in the years immediately before the tragedy, was a major factor.
Equally, the police were negligent. They addmitted this, and damages were paid. Clearly money is no real compensation, but in law that is what you get.
THthefirst 1 year ago
@THthefirst I agree with nearly all of this. Prior hooliganism necessitated a response, though the well-intentioned response of setting up inescapable pens was inappropriate, as we sadly learned in hindsight. And yes, I understand the thinking that led to giving Liverpool fans the Leppings Lane approach, but with those decisions came the responsibility (which had been met once before) to manage the crowds -- cordons along the streets for ticket-holders & blocking the tunnel. That's culpability.
dcs002 1 year ago
@dcs002 I just want to add that I understand you've thought this through, and I thank you for using reason rather than the more pervasive knee-jerk emotional response without thought. I appreciate that, and that's why I give your comments so much attention. We agree on most causal factors concerning this disaster, with the apparent exception of the role of fan behavior on that day (the non-ticket holders pushing in).
dcs002 1 year ago
@THthefirst Thats a complete myth. Another victim of the Scums smear campaign-aimed at ignorants like you mate. Ticketless fans has been dismissed as a contributing factor. At fault The Police, The FA, Sheff Wed and The Government. Police's negligence was clearly the biggest factor-some common sense and this would never of happened.
cockywatchman1976 1 year ago
@cockywatchman1976 I suggest you read the Taylor Report (Final) before you start labelling others as "ignorant", paras 269-270. He states about ticketless fans,
"there undoubtedly were some. Obviously, the practice of admitting fans without tickets has a bad knock-on effect. Bands of fans unable to get tickets believe that if they turn up and create sufficient clamour the police will admit them.
This must not be allowed to continue. (contd)
THthefirst 1 year ago
@cockywatchman1976 (contd) It is intolerable that those with no tickets should be able to blackmail their way into a ground. "If you don't let us in we'll force the gates or wreck your town", is not a
threat to which a police force should submit. The policy of admitting such people is also unfair to those who
have taken the trouble and spent money to buy tickets. (contd)
THthefirst 1 year ago
@cockywatchman1976 (contd) "It further involves, at a capacity match, letting in fans
for whom there may be insufficient space. It may also create problems of segregation. Above all, it is allowing
the mob to rule".
As I say, perhaps you should learn a little about the facts before you start criticising others.
THthefirst 1 year ago
@THthefirst Complete crap. Every match has some fans without tickets. If you police correctly and check tickets then it will have no consequence. The Taylor report CLEARLY states that ticketless fans/forged tickets DID NOT play a significant factor in the disaster. You ARE ignorant, since you focus on the points you want to, a classic Sun reader. No doubt you get it delivered to your door. Im not going to respond any further to the nonsense you have written-its like trying to explain evolution
cockywatchman1976 1 year ago