Christianity vs. Hinduism debate / pt 12 of 14 / Dave Hunt vs Budhendranauth Doobay

[sudhumravarna]

Deuteronomy 21:10-13

10When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, 11And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;

Yep forcible RAPE!

[mazit27]

Dr.Hunt is good at debate.He is basically defending his religion by mocking what the opponent says.I am a devoted hindu.I feel hurt that he ignorantly tried to ridicule the concepts of hinduism without even tried to gain any true understanding of the concepts.But he didn't really display the greatness of his religion by using that approach.Mr.Doobay was trying to speak about the beauty of hinduism while respecting christianity but Mr. Hunt didn't do speak anything intellectual about his religion

[rkan10]

What an embarrassing idiot is this Dubey?...Who chose this idiot to represent Hinduism.

[chalke007]

@rkan10

what he did wrong ?

[rkan10]

@chalke007 everything....from logic to not even having back bone..

[chalke007]

@rkan10 tell me specific

[rohat999]

@rkan10

cant tell if your hindu or not.

but tell what he did wrong specifics please

he shut up dave hunt real nice, but hunt continues to spew serpent this serpent that

[rkan10]

@rohat999 if you think dubey answered him you re wrong....yes....dave is another idiot bringing up serpent and and other bs....dubey must have gone on full blown offensive instead of meekly defending with his illogical weak answers like crawling on the ground....if i were there i would torn them to pieces by quoting ot and showing whose god is evil......i did not see one place where dubey had a backbone...most hindus don't possess one...

[katnils]

It is just ridiculous to speak about fullfilled prophesies in the bible. It´s easy to fulfill a prophesy when you know the scripture isn´t it? Israel wouldn´t have been founded if the bible wouldn´t have said so for ex. Jesus was well versed in Jewish scriptures and clearly did what he could to fulfil prophesies. With some extra help to fill in some details (different depending on what gospel you read) by authors of the gospels. What kind of ridiculous proof for a religion to be true is this?

[777Talon]

Science means nothing to Christian. So why do you let your children go to school and learn it?? Why do you have doctors?? Why do you even watch the weather networks?? hahaha idiots

[rightlydivide]

@777Talon who says science is meanless to Christians?

[777Talon]

@rightlydivide Hunt did

[777Talon]

@rightlydivide 9:00

[rightlydivide]

@777Talon I disagree; listen to his entire argument; you are taking him totally out of context to what his point is. You comment is typical of someone who disagrees, and will say anything to shoot down an opposing point of view.

[777Talon]

@rightlydivide if you dont mind me asking but what view of "GOD" were you born into or follow?? I was born a Hindu but dont believe in reincarnation even though there have been children on television shows and in books that have spoken about past lives and things they should not know about. I think its odd they know these things but also makes you thinks about what your first thoughts were and if you right or not.

[rightlydivide]

@777Talon Thats a fair question. I was born into the Roman Catholic faith; as a teenager I was shown the Bible and informed that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for my sins and that we can be right with God because of what Jesus did for us. goto my website if you would like some more info ww w drawafish com

[777Talon]

@rightlydivide Well now that you know what i am, you will know that i do not think badly about what you believe in, as a matter of fact i support it but in a non fanatic way. I see all as god would see all, and thats as his children. You probably think differently and thats okay because this is what Krishna taught me, not Jesus Christ. I have been to many churches and seen what they preach. In my temple we talk about all religions as one, as equals.

[rightlydivide]

@777Talon I respect that. I think there is alot to learn, and to grow in many differnt faiths, and cultures, and walks of life. The reason I stand for Christianity is the fact that we are all in trouble because of our sins before a holy God. These sins can not go away by doing good works, or following what we feel is the right thing to do. The only thing that took away our sins was the death, burial and rising of Jesus Christ. I pray that you will come to that truth some day. cheers.

[katnils]

@rightlydivide You fail to see that it is your religion that makes you think you are born in sin (created sick) before it tells you that it has the only solution for your sickness; your god offered himself to himself to be able to forgive you for being a human. All you need to do is to not ask if this makes sense unless you want Yahweh to burn you for eternity.

[katnils]

@rightlydivide It is your religion that is sick since it makes you speak about this as the ultimate truth and makes you think that everyone else have to believe this unless they want to be burned by your jelous psycho god. I´m an atheist with a Christian heritage and I tell you this since Hindus are too polite to tell it to you and because I´m ashamed over the self-righteousness in Christianity. Read some Hindu scriptures before you tell Hindus their belives are wrong.

[katnils]

@rightlydivide I know you think you speak out of concern of others but I assure you that it is a defect in your religion that makes you think that telling others that your religion is the only true way of understanding the world is something that is loving when it is just condescending. Especially talking to Hindus that has a much more sophisticated, philosophic and civilized religion than you have. Hindus are too polite and accepting to tell you this but I don´t mind telling you.

[sonnyg121]

When the Ten Commandments they quite understand,

You their Chief must hocus, and annex their land;

And if they misguided call you to account,

Give them another sermon --- with a Maxim from the Mount."

[sonnyg121]

Onward Chartered Soldiers, on to heathen lands,

Prayer books in your pockets, rifles in your hands.

Take the glorious tidings where trade can be done,

Spread the peaceful gospel --- with a Maxim gun

Tell the wretched natives, sinful are their hearts,

Turn their heathen temples into spirit marts.

And if to your teaching they will not succumb,

Give them another sermon with the Maxim gun...

[axe414]

President Bush was not a Christian! Both of them were in the Skull and Bones and are working to create a new world order. They are Luciferians ! Someone calling himself a Christian does NOT make him so!

[axe414]

Do not upset the order of the world? As in New world order? Inform yourself about this subject. The new age deception.

[kamelkok2007]

He should rather said Purpose of beeing christian is to kill muslim and insult others believes, knocks an ordinary people's door every morning whether they are sleeping or awake. Go to poorest country in the world including India and Nepal pay money convert people into their faith. This is what they have been doing until now. Ancient time they used to do it by force now. More or less they have the same method but different way to conducting it.

[ElderSwear07]

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians." - Mahatma Gandhi

[priyaprt]

,,,,its His mercy we r born as human beings…

likewise we have fiery hell…but at various degrees…n we cud be doomed for eternal punishment….

[priyaprt]

in Hinduism we have the concept of heaven n hell….but it is at different degrees ….accoridn to our deeds we r promoted to various heavenly planets n wen r ‘time is up’ we r sent down to earth….n wen we attain the ultimate realization n most important His mercy we r send bk to His abode…n we never come bk down to earth….like how it says in the bible..even the angels look down upon the earth to c wt the humans do…most blessed life is the life a human being

[priyaprt]

Hindus can argue with Christians wit the fact y God has send souls to eternal punishment wen He is al merciful n compassionate….in tat case aren’t we limiting God’s mercy…..

[priyaprt]

i donknwo wts wron wtih Dave...even though he sits calm he is really getin me on my nerves....he has no clue abt Hindu religion...wel the ancietn scriptures in Veda..prophecied comin of Jesus Christ....its better mr.dave does ihs reasearch on evry religion oinstead of makin baseless commnets abt islam n hindus....

[rightlydivide]

@mahender6969 God vs. Dictionary......Hmmmmm.....I think I will stick with God. I put my faith in the Word of God, the Bible. If some moron wants to come along, spread lies (like hinduism does) and call it Christian......I'm not going to assocate with that group, or group name, or whatever. I will stick with God's Holy Word. by the way....did you know that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for Your Sins??? get saved today.

[govegetarian100]

@rightlydivide

if i commit a sin and you get punished for it, is that justice?

[rightlydivide]

@govegetarian100 If I loved you so much as to take your punishment, that would be called love. Jesus died for the sins of the world and took the punishment for us; if that is hard for you to understand, you could read the bible and it will tell you that He did this for us in several spots.

[govegetarian100]

@rightlydivide

it might be called love but it is not called justice.. it is called partiality .. when u love someone, most of the times u might be partial to that person.. if i commit a sin and the judge says, oh i love u and forgive you,, it might be love,, but it is also UNJUST..

when i was in school, one of my teachers used to always give more marks to one student who was her favourite.. she definitely did it out of love, but it was totally wrong and UNJUST..

[rightlydivide]

@govegetarian100 But...."God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever shall believe in Him, shall have everlasting life." John3:16

[rightlydivide]

@govegetarian100 Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." We have all sinned. We have all done things that are displeasing to God. There is no one who is innocent. Romans 3:10-18 gives a detailed picture of what sin looks like in our lives. The second Scripture on the Romans Road to salvation, Romans 6:23, teaches us about the consequences of sin - "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

[govegetarian100]

@rightlydivide

my question is still the same. where is the justice in this.?does it mean that GOD does not mind being partial to certain ppl?

[rightlydivide]

@govegetarian100 Doesn't matter how you (or society) views Justice; it only matters how GOD views justice. Without Jesus dying on the cross for our sins, God could throw everybody on earth in hell, and be Just. But God so loved the world that He came down and died for our sins. Put your faith in Jesus Christ and His FREE gift, before it is too late.

[govegetarian100]

@rightlydivide

so does it mean that whatever god does is ok.. even if he does wrong it is called right because he is GOD.. he can kill an innocent man and still be JUST coz he is god.. 

if he can just do anything and call it right, how can we trust god.. tomorrow if he makes a new rule and says from today heaven is hell, who can stop him.. he is god.. and it does not make a difference if it is wrong or right to us.. he can say it is right to him so it is just..

[rightlydivide]

@govegetarian100 God's Word is above all things (Psalms says this) so no, God would not go against His word and can not do wrong. Jesus Christ is God who can down to earth to die for your sins; and offers it to you as a FREE gift apart from works. Your emptyness that you feel inside can only be filled with salvation that Christ offers us today.

[TheIceman466]

btw about karma .. so the people who dont live in costal areas are not effected by tsunami cos they have good karma ... Load of bull m friend ... and you answer with such pride after you talk about you being good and all .. shame on you doctor .. your a hypocrite

[TheIceman466]

@ email .... Humans have been on earth for Millions of years did you say ?

Sorry to say your way off the mark ... no human recors are found before 10k - 15 k years

[mahender6969]

@TheIceman466 the earth is 6000 to 10000 years old make more sense.

[email2sharad007]

Jesus Christ looks like a private company who says buy only my product. How small hearted is a GOD if he does not treat his own creation equally ? What happens to the billions others who dont follow Christianity ?

Jesus was born 2000 years ago and humans have been on earth for many million years ago, what happened to the generations before Jesus and what happens to many in these 2000 years who have not ever heard of Jesus (many tribes all around dont even know these religions exist

[spa507]

@email2sharad007 Mate !!! U know ur father right, but once u say to father what a father u r... saying to me that u alone is my father ?? Will say he is small hearted.... U say Jesus existed only from 2000 years... Read bible and find out that... In the begining there was Word.. the Word was God and the The Word was with God... understand anything... ???? U can't and thatz not ur problem mate...

[email2sharad007]

@spa507 I dont understand what you are saying, please be more clear in your comments. Jesus was born 2000 years ago, go check your facts.

[spa507]

@email2sharad007 U are talking about a physical Jesus.. God came to earth in flesh... without knowing all these facts...U are asking me to read Bible to know about Jesus.. mate please do study from the beginning...

for eg: its better to talk about to Box Office movie after watching in full, but now a days people are interested to comment on the movie after watching only the last scene...

U want to know more about Jesus.. come to me..

[email2sharad007]

@spa507 You are misguided yourself so why would anyone come to you. Yes God has existed ever since time but God is not christian. Christianity is a man-made rather more political organisation to group people together and so is Islam. And both Christianity and Islam have the bloodiest history (read crusades etc).

My point is that, you guys pray the way you want, but dont try to coerce others to follow that. Anyone "good" human being will live and die peacefully whether christian or not.

[spa507]

@email2sharad007 I admit one thing for sure,GOD never called us to be Christians but asked us to Know Jesus (CHRIST) and made clear that he is the ONLY WAY, TRUTH and LIFE.It is Gentiles who called those who follow the word of GOD Christians, OK dear not us.So ur argument Christianity is the term used by ur sort of Guys...And regarding Crusades and all.. they never followed the word of GOD.I am sorry for them mate if that hurt u personally...

To run away from truth is not a good decision though

[email2sharad007]

@spa507 So you can call him by the name of Jesus and the followers of Islam can call him by another name and the followers of Hindu way of life can call him by another name. That does not change God. God is the same for everyone and he is kind and giving to all human beings no matter what faith they belong to and by what name they refer to the super-natural entity we call GOD.

[spa507]

@email2sharad007 Thats what I have replied for earlier mate, if u wanna fly to America u need to catch the Flight which goes to America only and not any flight, OK mate....

Then another thing is you need to study about everything from the beginning.and then find out solutions for it.. U were Born as a Hindu and is remaining so, I was born in a different religion too and studied about God and found out Jesus is the only way.Thatz it mate.If u wont get attracted by God, u wont know Jesus for sure

[email2sharad007]

@spa507 so there are many flights that go to American and there are multiple routes you can follow. God does not like monopoly of 1 company and hence have provided multiple ways to reach him. Now keep your mouth shut, any good human being is close to God no matter what religion he/she follows or by what name he/she refers God to.

[spa507]

@email2sharad007 ha, ha .. sorry if the coming words is gonna hurt you.. what u should need to do today is go home and tell your father."I dont like the monopoly of 1 company, so I will call everyone my father.coz u alone is not my father" and regarding the example of flights...I thought u will use ur wisdom rather answering with a word of stupidness.LOL.I am not complaining you mate, only the ignorance of knowledge is making use of those words... even Hinduism says ONE GOD and NO IDOL

[email2sharad007]

@spa507 May be you dont know who your father is. Get a DNA test done and you will be surprised. You are an idiot and I have blocked you forever as I dont want to listen to your non sense talks.

[spa507]

@email2sharad007 ha ha mate !!! this is what someone call arrogance.. I have not doubt about my father and I have got ONE father, I was talking about you mate...

[tgamerlegend]

@email2sharad007 Jesus offers himself to be anyones savior so he treats everyone fair. You should buy Jesus product because it is the only one that works. To your question about what about other tribes and people who never knew Jesus? Well God know the heart and a human will be judged according to how he responds to God and his will. Im sure God would provide his salvation to anyone who he sees would respond to his calling. continue to part 2 of my response.

[rohat999]

@tgamerlegend

ill answer your 3 parts. you have no proof that jesus is the only "product" that works, dont say stupid stuff like that. people do not need a savior, why would they? and if they do why jesus and not any other religious messengers/prophets, etc. you believe the bible to be the true path? if the bible is perfect that would mean it has no errors. then why does the bible have many contradictions and has been revised many times.

[tgamerlegend]

@email2sharad007 Part 2. Many apologist think that Jesus does indeed save people based on how they respond to God and the law written on their hearts. People know they need a savior and if someone prayed for forgiveness and to be saved to God as they knew him and lived as best as they could according to what God has revealed to thim I think they would be saved. This is not to be saved without Jesus sacrifice but to say Jesus sacrifice is applied to them even if they don't know his name.

[tgamerlegend]

@email2sharad007 Part 3. At the same time im not trying to say that all religions lead to heaven I believe only the bible to be true and the only true path. Humans have not been around for more than11000 years from my understanding they havn't been around for milllions of years. I don't have all the answers and im not saying my answers could not be wrong. Im just trying to show you how God can provide ways of salvation to people across the world. He knows the human heart and is fair.

[arunkrishna88]

@ fecristiana911

I believe in Jesus just like i have belief in other Gods.But you are asking for the existence of Gods in Hindus.Then can you prove the existence of Jesus?NO.BIble has been modified a lot by church in PreRennaissance times.Apart from some written evidence you also have nothing more to show.Even Jesus Christ's birthday is not known correctly.I think The wordins u can reach God only through Jesus is done by the church of prerennaissance times .

[SunnyHappy2008]

How can the religions be good but the leader be bad? Um...somebody missed the child-fucking priests.

[trackguy2]

@SunnyHappy2008 Catholicism is a perversion of christianity, watch a woman rides the beast

[elizajonas209]

i believe in jesus

[AkkiSantana]

@elizajonas209 jesus bless u..

[twista8819]

"Kicknotes" why dont you use some of that sense in your brain!!

Any sane person can tell that Doobay is so much better then Hunt. Doobay knows his faith well and speaks only truth, whereas Hunt just plays with words and picks on issues which he doesn't even understand.

Anyway Hunt is just another typical Christian out to denigrate anothers faith.

[fecristiana911]

@twista8819 Hunt only speaks what he was taught in his culture but there is no proof backing up the existence of any hindu god because they are all man made idols meanwhile there is a lot of proof of the existence of the only God. His name is Jesus Christ and he loves everyone. even hindus who don´t believe in him and commit idolatry, but God is a compassionate and forgiving God who cares about us. He cared so much for us that he came down to earth to live with us and take away our sins.

[deepaksaagar]

Oh yes.. and the same compassionate God will throw you into hell, just by judging how you have lived your life... Isnt that Ironic... If God was compassionate how would he ever torture his children in Hell??

[SunnyHappy2008]

@fecristiana911 What makes God compassionate? What proof, besides the bible, do you have that Jesus Christ exists?

[sonnyg121]

@fecristiana911

u speak as if there are many Hindu Gods ... i m tired of you half brained Christans who have no clue what Hinduism is yet you come and balbber on with you half knowledge ... if you can name a religion in which Idol worship has not crept into i ll admit that you are right but thats not true because Idol worship is the only way we can begin to comprehend God .. many scholars debate the existence of Jesus himself let alone a Christian God .. lol ..

[spa507]

@sonnyg121 if u say so worship one God only mate as I know Hinduism says to worship only one God and no IDOLS....U need to go into the subject and what u guys call Hinduism now came to existence only 1000 yrs ago, check history books... this is modern Hinduism which has no touch with what your Books say. Now Hinduism is talking about what man is saying and not what Hindu Scriptures says.... The Vedas and Upanishads... Worshiping the created and not the creator...Like Babylonians worshiped Baal

[sonnyg121]

@spa507

Hmmm Sanatana Dhrama is a pluralistic religion .. some believe that idols are not to be used and some believe that the use of idols is more in sync with Dharmic scriptures. Sanatana Dharma is known as the eternal religion, eternal meaning without beginning and without end .. Historically Sanatana Dharma is dated back to between 6,000 - 8,000 B.C.E. As long as Sanatana Dharma uses the Vedas and the Upanishads's authority it will be the oldest religion on this earth ..

[sonnyg121]

@spa507

Sanatana Dharma is a great religion and reform movements such as BAPS, ISKON, and Hinduism Today are at the forefront of the Dharmic Renaissance still worshiping the creator...If you want to talk about worshiping the created, lets talk more about Islam and some elements of the Abrahamic religions .. God Bless

[TruRaja4ReaL]

@fecristiana911 How can God be Jesus Christ, who created the wrold Jesus was born into and the civilizations and cultures which existed long before he was there. the Idols are not God in Hinduism, they are all different depicting a different aspect of God or a fraction of God's power.

[kicknotes]

Hunt's "lord/liar/lunatic" is a weak one (why are those the only three options?)

Doobay's attitude during Q&A takes away any of his credibility.  "Karma" (hands away mic).

Again, really poor debating and overall demeanor by both participants.

[kicknotes]

This was a pretty boring debate, lacking much real "rebate".

[kicknotes]

*"debate"