I cannot wait for these cars. Lighter than both the 370 and the Genesis. Cheaper too. But what I'm really interested in the the Afternarket! TRD is going to be releasing some good stuff. They released an S/C for the tC, so I can't wait to see what happens with this thing. Great Video Gushi!
if it only had a turbo boxer it would be a tuner's dream... great subaru boxer sound, tunability and reliability with a classic front engine rear drive layout......... the way it sits right now without a turbo, i would still choose a hyundai 2.0 turbo genesis over it.
@highereducationact I'm going to make a quick guess and say that you're ken gushi (a total beast) or one of his many female (or male) stalkers (kinda creepy). there were some times when you had to pull the ebrake multiple times (like at 2:56) Why? Just trying to learn, not trying to be critical or anything (as if I had a right to be!!), also what techniques would you use to drift an ff with a foot ebrake (worst situation to be in for drift) I can't seem to get the rears to break loose if I flick
its a 200HP car, and Ken is drifting it nice and easy, you really don't need a higher powered engine... you need a better skill set to drift it, that was the essence of the design - to teach you how to do it right... bunch of morons asking for a more powerful engine...
@DeadNightLife There are slight differences between all three subtypes. Aside from the aesthetics the Scion is more street friendly with softer front suspension, the Toyota is a little more aggressive and is rumored to include a supercharger when the boosted model comes out, and the BRZ "STI" version is planned to be turbocharged.
@calvinblinkee It could be, we'll know when they both come out. One source says the toyota/scion will be softer and the others say that the subaru will be softer lol they're both going to be badass for sure!!
This will be my first brand new car, i really wish they would bring it over with toyota badges, because there are people that think scion is some cheap junk brand even though its really just toyota, oh well, guess they'll have to learn
Wow, I think I've found my first brand new car. Up to this point, I was planning on keeping my '02 RSX-S for another 2-3 years and pick up a used E90, but not anymore. This is everything I was looking for in a car and at $25k or so, it's worth it
@KalEl600rr and thats why those cars exist; for people that like power. For the rest of us we understand what "neutral handling" means and how thats very difficult to engineer.
@KalEl600rr So keep your rustang. For the rest of us who care more about driving experience and handling, we will get one of these. Yeah, you may have "super awesome horsepower" and be able to go straight really fast, but when you hit that corner going that fast and have to slow down, we will be sliding right through it at the same speed we entered. True cars have balanced power and handling. Something America and their idiot designers don't get.
@Miike92@shootzeglass Keep in mind that SAE ratings have changed throughout the years as well. Not to mention that technological advances have created stronger, more reliable engines.
looking real good! With s2k and rx-8 gone, there are no real affordable sports cars on the market, only semi-muscle/luxury 370z/z4 left. The 86 looks like a real sports car: balanced, lightweight, lsd. good job toyota/subaru!
i will speak from experience & opinion. i have a 20 year old stock 240sx with minor modifications that is fun to drive when its running. i like..., better yet love my car, but i could easily pick a newer model car or 350z for the amount i'd pay for this, but speed & power doesn't always equal fun to drive. not to compare the 350z to this b/c there is no comparison, but everyone doesn't have thirty plus thousand dollars to sink into a car. basically its a poor mans sports car thats fun to drive.
@wideopendrifting The entire point of this car is to be fun & affordable. Didn't you even listen to what the guy said? It's not about horse power or tech. Toyota could've made a different car with more power & tech like a Nissan Z, but then it would end up costing as much. The base model price of this car will probably not be much different than a family wagon or minivan so you shouldn't expect it to be some super car.
@SuperHimLove and plus lexus already made the LFA, toyota has no need to make a supercar. It seems to me like their trying to move into sports car territory . Toyotas probably gonna have one next
@wideopendrifting No, even stock without rain, he would be able to. It has pretty much the same power as a stock sr20det. And if I can drift my very stock ae86 without rain, Ken could def do it no problem. Oh yea, and he also has an 86. It's all about skills at this point. And your id is wideopendrifting, where are your videos?
@wideopendrifting This coming from a person that drifts on a couch. Forza isn't reality, drift a real car and you'll understand how it works. I've drifted cars with slightly more than 100whp, you don't need power to drift, you need skill.
Great video can't wait till this hits the streets and see what people do with them. Been hearing its akin to the Rx-8 as in under powered by some but handles very well if not better than its competition in its price range. Needless to say I'm exciting Toyota is getting back into the Sport Coup segment.
ugh , no offense to ken , but what a pos in stock form . not much angle lock it looks like . and it looks ugly , but u gotta appreciate new rwd coupes from manufacturers, non the less , im just not impressed by this vehicle
@PrentissRacing name one car that is set up well for drift from factory? exactly this car is set up brilliantly and its doing a good job for only 200hp! im well impressed
@somerandomaussie 240sx, 180sx, Silvia, AE86 ... need more? However, in TODAY's world, I'll have to agree - today's current market has no "off-the-shelf" drift-ready platforms.
@PainIs4ThaWeak85 240sx has a trash rear diff hence welding, AE86 is a very rare hard to find chassis code with the matching block. However, I would have to throw the RX-7 Turbo II in there. Has a fantastic rear-end and more than enough power to abuse for a streetable drifter.
@PanikProne In regards to the 240 rear: of course its an open diff. Though capable of handling 350whp+ (which, yes, I've seen personally) - Though the open diff won't hamper a decent driver in the S13/14 chassis too horribly. Podium finishes have been won by 240 drivers with open diffs at Streetwise events in the past.
Luckily ill have my liscense by next year! Looks like I found my first car :)
coolyo366 4 days ago
That was GREAT! Ken is an AWESOME drifter! Gambarimasu!
ScionARAbee 4 days ago
good angle at 1:37
chipaggie12 1 week ago
すごく楽しそうですね!!!以前からこの車をチェックしてたのですが、こんなに人を楽しませる車だとは思いませんでした。健士郎さんのドラテクが後押しして、この動画だけで車の魅力をストレートに感じました。間違いなく僕のDream Carです!
今アメリカいるので、将来FR-Sを買えたらな。。。なんて企んでます。。。笑
健士郎さんの86でのサーキットドリフトが見られる日を楽しみにしてます!!!
toshichamu 2 weeks ago
I cannot wait for these cars. Lighter than both the 370 and the Genesis. Cheaper too. But what I'm really interested in the the Afternarket! TRD is going to be releasing some good stuff. They released an S/C for the tC, so I can't wait to see what happens with this thing. Great Video Gushi!
PhantomGett 2 weeks ago
whenever i hear the word "Chiba" my eyes go red and i get the munchies...
s13silly 2 weeks ago
if it only had a turbo boxer it would be a tuner's dream... great subaru boxer sound, tunability and reliability with a classic front engine rear drive layout......... the way it sits right now without a turbo, i would still choose a hyundai 2.0 turbo genesis over it.
tomasortega1 2 weeks ago
2013 GENESIS COUPE V6 WITH 350 HP.... of course I want a Hyundai not a light shit with 200 HP. LOL
RamirezRobertoPerez 2 weeks ago
.. i like the sound of this four banger... doesn't sound so buzzing like the honda motors... this sounds throaty and aggressive....
GOBbluthagain 2 weeks ago
Honda...please bring back the s2k...PLEASE!
factionxvt408x 2 weeks ago
@highereducationact I'm going to make a quick guess and say that you're ken gushi (a total beast) or one of his many female (or male) stalkers (kinda creepy). there were some times when you had to pull the ebrake multiple times (like at 2:56) Why? Just trying to learn, not trying to be critical or anything (as if I had a right to be!!), also what techniques would you use to drift an ff with a foot ebrake (worst situation to be in for drift) I can't seem to get the rears to break loose if I flick
GPaulTheThrashKing 3 weeks ago
I want one
DriftDisciple 4 weeks ago
not in power..
Pepehgt5 1 month ago
@Pepehgt5 It has more than enough power. 200hp in a 1200kg is enough to make it very fun.
derbigpr500 3 weeks ago
@derbigpr500 I think now that's not enough power.
Pepehgt5 3 weeks ago
Now the body of this car is now at a very nice compromise.
Laitharex 1 month ago
isnt the fr-s fwd?
GeoForReal 1 month ago in playlist Street Racing/Cars
@GeoForReal It's rear. The FR in FR-S refers to the engine / drive wheels layout. (Front-engine, Rear-wheel drive)
brettwroche 1 month ago
One question. Does the car have a LSD. PLEASE SAY IT DOES!!!! I'll be so sad if it doesn't
accordv6er 1 month ago
@accordv6er im pretty sure it does
AndroidJdm 1 month ago
@accordv6er One LSD, STOCK FROM FACTORY, NIGGA~~~~~
Laitharex 1 month ago
@accordv6er Yes, the car is equipped with a Torsen!
highereducationact 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I'm going to trade in my Scion TC for this. :)
ChuukeseStink 1 month ago 3
Perfect Project Car!!!
NextSelection671 1 month ago
I want one :(
Gabkicks 1 month ago
its a 200HP car, and Ken is drifting it nice and easy, you really don't need a higher powered engine... you need a better skill set to drift it, that was the essence of the design - to teach you how to do it right... bunch of morons asking for a more powerful engine...
hk417 1 month ago in playlist BRZ TOYOTA86 Scion FR-S 4
FR-S, GT-86 (yeah they changed the name) or BRZ I cant decide but in the end THERE ALL THE SAME CAR!!
What I want is the 200 hp 4 boxer RWD that I can enjoy. What the badge say wont mean a thing to proformance.
DeadNightLife 1 month ago
@DeadNightLife There are slight differences between all three subtypes. Aside from the aesthetics the Scion is more street friendly with softer front suspension, the Toyota is a little more aggressive and is rumored to include a supercharger when the boosted model comes out, and the BRZ "STI" version is planned to be turbocharged.
LivinInFuture 1 month ago
@DeadNightLife the subaru will be setup on the softer side(due to the suspension settings) but you cant go wrong with either one!
AndroidJdm 1 month ago
@AndroidJdm I thought it was the other way around lol
calvinblinkee 1 month ago
@calvinblinkee It could be, we'll know when they both come out. One source says the toyota/scion will be softer and the others say that the subaru will be softer lol they're both going to be badass for sure!!
AndroidJdm 1 month ago
I can't wait to see this on Top Gear UK. I bet Jeremy Clarkson would have a thing or two to say about it.
Rogers1977 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos 2
This will be my first brand new car, i really wish they would bring it over with toyota badges, because there are people that think scion is some cheap junk brand even though its really just toyota, oh well, guess they'll have to learn
DietzA3 1 month ago
@DietzA3 The FR-S is tuned differently from the GT-86
LivinInFuture 1 month ago
thats sick! i wanna drive one now lol
Deeticus 2 months ago
Love it.
08civicSI4dr 2 months ago
nissan should drop the s16
hoodyman88 2 months ago
anyone asking for a thumbs up gets a thumbs down
hobotechMASTER 2 months ago
Thumb Up if you wanna buy Scion Fr-s,Subaru Brz or Toyota GT86 !
crazydudidude2 2 months ago
I like his helmet.....
katanavk77 2 months ago
Fuck you fish eye!!! ..the camera lens..not Ken Gushi...
XXXdemosthenesXXX 2 months ago
I have been waiting for this for soooo long!!!!
Rogers1977 2 months ago
@wideopendrift, you ever driven a stock 240sx, ae86, e30, miata, etc? ITS A STOCK CAR u dumb fucking twat, it's gonna have roll
crxracr 2 months ago
@KalEL600rr, then go buy a mustang stfu and gtfo!
crxracr 2 months ago
awesome video, i am definitely going to be getting one next year!
rambutan0316 2 months ago
Wow, I think I've found my first brand new car. Up to this point, I was planning on keeping my '02 RSX-S for another 2-3 years and pick up a used E90, but not anymore. This is everything I was looking for in a car and at $25k or so, it's worth it
SharpshooterEOS 2 months ago
IT DOESNT NEED MORE POWER BECAUSE IT WILL ACCELERATE ITSELF ANYWAY
LOL!
KalEl600rr 2 months ago
"I think anyone could just hop in this car and enjoy it. It's not about horsepower, it's not about electronics; It's just you and the car." -Ken.
Amen to that :D I can't wait till these eventually start hitting the second hand market, I'll be in for one.
samgab 2 months ago 3
He makes it look so easy!
samgab 2 months ago
200hp LOL
RATHER HAVE 5.0 V8 MUSTANG
KalEl600rr 2 months ago
@KalEl600rr and thats why those cars exist; for people that like power. For the rest of us we understand what "neutral handling" means and how thats very difficult to engineer.
tommiedatrip 2 months ago
@KalEl600rr you're missing the point.
JayTac1 2 months ago
@KalEl600rr So keep your rustang. For the rest of us who care more about driving experience and handling, we will get one of these. Yeah, you may have "super awesome horsepower" and be able to go straight really fast, but when you hit that corner going that fast and have to slow down, we will be sliding right through it at the same speed we entered. True cars have balanced power and handling. Something America and their idiot designers don't get.
Ace2424 2 months ago
@KalEl600rr haha just a heads up the 5.0 V8 Mustang from 1995 only produced 215 HP... haha just saying.
shootzeglass 1 month ago
@shootzeglass that is pretty sad for the mustang with a 5 liter and a v8 to only make 215hp
Miike92 1 month ago
@Miike92 @shootzeglass Keep in mind that SAE ratings have changed throughout the years as well. Not to mention that technological advances have created stronger, more reliable engines.
LivinInFuture 1 month ago
I want this so bad! I can't wait until the mags review it. Heck regardless, I want to test drive this thing!
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MultiAhka 2 months ago
First mods for this car would be I/H/E, rims, springs.
MrHmongrice 2 months ago
"I was told not to trash the car" LOL...you already did!! Awesome driving man~
astina18 2 months ago 22
3 people own golf GTI and will stick to it no matter what
yossi126 2 months ago 4
getting paid for drifting a new car = priceless
whutzzzup 2 months ago 5
looking real good! With s2k and rx-8 gone, there are no real affordable sports cars on the market, only semi-muscle/luxury 370z/z4 left. The 86 looks like a real sports car: balanced, lightweight, lsd. good job toyota/subaru!
icefox1983 2 months ago 2
As we see KTM slogan's "Ready to Race" this will be "Ready to Drift"
marco8704 2 months ago
Average driving..
Awesome car though..
Ae86Sam 2 months ago
Gushi no.1! Gushi no.1!
Silvadragon 2 months ago
i will speak from experience & opinion. i have a 20 year old stock 240sx with minor modifications that is fun to drive when its running. i like..., better yet love my car, but i could easily pick a newer model car or 350z for the amount i'd pay for this, but speed & power doesn't always equal fun to drive. not to compare the 350z to this b/c there is no comparison, but everyone doesn't have thirty plus thousand dollars to sink into a car. basically its a poor mans sports car thats fun to drive.
aynillio 2 months ago
should have come with 3 manual trans instead of 6mt lol
devastate754 2 months ago
I want this car! Wish ppl would understand the point of this car.... thanks Ken for explaining it.
ricanxd 2 months ago
friggen awesome
timothytcliu 2 months ago
Fuck man in learning how to drift with my Japanese friend it's so cool Im going to get one fr-s next year SAAN I'm so excited!!! Nice video sir!!
DOOM77666 2 months ago
He looks like a kid on christmas while drifting :)
HiroyushiKun 2 months ago
awesome driving friend!
hoklee 2 months ago
Im gonna buy it
in 2025
ponczak 2 months ago
He was out of breath and grinning after the very first turn,
And he does this for a living. Can't wait to drive it.
SureTheShot 2 months ago
looks slow, suspensions loose, only reason he could even crossover cuz the road was wet
wideopendrifting 2 months ago
@wideopendrifting its a 2 litre NA what do you expect? its the stock suspension what do you expect?
SureTheShot 2 months ago
@wideopendrifting The entire point of this car is to be fun & affordable. Didn't you even listen to what the guy said? It's not about horse power or tech. Toyota could've made a different car with more power & tech like a Nissan Z, but then it would end up costing as much. The base model price of this car will probably not be much different than a family wagon or minivan so you shouldn't expect it to be some super car.
SuperHimLove 2 months ago 35
@SuperHimLove and plus lexus already made the LFA, toyota has no need to make a supercar. It seems to me like their trying to move into sports car territory . Toyotas probably gonna have one next
AyJayG002 4 weeks ago
@AyJayG002 and that would be SUPRA
ciboalien 1 week ago
@wideopendrifting Gosh, is reading the description that hard?
ClubbySuperCharged 2 months ago
@wideopendrifting
get back to your Forza drifting lol!
waider 2 months ago
@wideopendrifting No, even stock without rain, he would be able to. It has pretty much the same power as a stock sr20det. And if I can drift my very stock ae86 without rain, Ken could def do it no problem. Oh yea, and he also has an 86. It's all about skills at this point. And your id is wideopendrifting, where are your videos?
bboysoy 1 month ago
@wideopendrifting This coming from a person that drifts on a couch. Forza isn't reality, drift a real car and you'll understand how it works. I've drifted cars with slightly more than 100whp, you don't need power to drift, you need skill.
roguetorino 1 month ago
sounds great
boxer3main 2 months ago
PLEASE make more drifting videos just like this. chilling drifting.
DriftXperience27 2 months ago
Making it look so easy! thumbs up!
ivannachoo 2 months ago
Aw man I would never try drifting but that looks fun.
wkfal 2 months ago
looks like the car is heaps of fun to drive
jonnois 2 months ago
Great video can't wait till this hits the streets and see what people do with them. Been hearing its akin to the Rx-8 as in under powered by some but handles very well if not better than its competition in its price range. Needless to say I'm exciting Toyota is getting back into the Sport Coup segment.
kevsflanagan 2 months ago
Awesome car!
neko9 2 months ago
i think he likes it...
cannon1001 2 months ago
sweet, toyota finally made a cool sports car again :D
STiFtw2k9 2 months ago
Sounds just like a KA from inside the car (at least when recorded with his Contour)
PainIs4ThaWeak85 2 months ago
the one dislike owns a civic with 1000hp and knows he will never have as much fun as this 200hp monster.
CaliSwag707 2 months ago
well. looks like i've made my decision.
JohnnySneezes 2 months ago
Thats pretty dam good for a 200hp factory car. Cant wait for these to come out :)
dabocx56 2 months ago
Great style....love the sideways. How could someone dislike? Its an unreleased car....super nice Ken.
davesnothere840 2 months ago
Very very nice. Great driver in a great car.
myfantube 2 months ago
Love it! Give me one at least xD
BVSX200 2 months ago
coolness!
biggamehitt 2 months ago
ugh , no offense to ken , but what a pos in stock form . not much angle lock it looks like . and it looks ugly , but u gotta appreciate new rwd coupes from manufacturers, non the less , im just not impressed by this vehicle
PrentissRacing 2 months ago
@PrentissRacing name one car that is set up well for drift from factory? exactly this car is set up brilliantly and its doing a good job for only 200hp! im well impressed
somerandomaussie 2 months ago
@somerandomaussie 240sx, 180sx, Silvia, AE86 ... need more? However, in TODAY's world, I'll have to agree - today's current market has no "off-the-shelf" drift-ready platforms.
PainIs4ThaWeak85 2 months ago
@PainIs4ThaWeak85 240sx has a trash rear diff hence welding, AE86 is a very rare hard to find chassis code with the matching block. However, I would have to throw the RX-7 Turbo II in there. Has a fantastic rear-end and more than enough power to abuse for a streetable drifter.
PanikProne 2 months ago 2
@PanikProne In regards to the 240 rear: of course its an open diff. Though capable of handling 350whp+ (which, yes, I've seen personally) - Though the open diff won't hamper a decent driver in the S13/14 chassis too horribly. Podium finishes have been won by 240 drivers with open diffs at Streetwise events in the past.
PainIs4ThaWeak85 2 months ago
The tracyion control light doesn't know what's going on.
FilmerJared 2 months ago
the smile says it all, good stuff man!
Noiseflash 2 months ago
looks like it's a very easy car to drift.. nice one ken =)
880316RR 2 months ago
nice footage!! seem to have a very relaxed driving style
-JZXpilot-
JZXpilot 2 months ago