Are Cellphone Towers Really Bad For Your Health?

[arjunus]

The a mouth of power is not really the problem.

The problem is the way of modulation thats disturbing the biological systems.

[CrudOMatic]

I'm not a math guy, so I couldn't do it

[CrudOMatic]

You should do a vid on the energy levels of the brain vs. energy levels of microwaves/vs/radio waves

[benalchemist74]

It's privacy cancer we need to worry about//

[pearcilicker]

I just wanted to let you know that I'm praying for you to get out of the shithole where you live, man. Jesus loves you.

[Astrobrant2]

Hey, I thought you were going to just fart around with this, it turned out to be very interesting. Another counter-intuitive discovery.

[heloizyjhenifer]

"at another meter" you get 1/9 not "sixteen" ;)

[meleder]

good video

[ClaytonFox]

I'm getting flash backs of my college days, i hated doing those radiation skin depth penetration problems.

[AtheistAussie]

@SECULARISTE I know where you are going with the isotropic reference, but I made allowance for the antenna gain. They are about 20 watts Eirp, I think.

[barakameek]

thanks for this one..made more questions then answered so you know you did a good job cos i love science and maths

[AtheistAussie]

@barakameek I try mate, I do try. Might do water flouridation soon, that should get them all worked up. mmm time to brush my teeth.

[barakameek]

@AtheistAussie Dam be putten stuff in our dame water ...

[ibitron1]

hahaha!!!

[Coughlan000]

AA i have a question, have you encountered a single Conspiracy Theorist who hasnt responded to one of your videos with out strawmanning you with the old "WELL I GUESS WE SHOULDNT QUESTION ANYTHING, YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE GOVERNMENT DOES" etc etc

[AtheistAussie]

@Coughlan000 I swear the expression "wake up sheeple" will cause me to go postal one day, and for a bunch of 'unconventional' thinkers, it's amazing how they ALL say "THE GOVERNMENT IS LYING TO US" in lock-step.

[youngn420]

@AtheistAussie well in some regards they're right. where were the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?  Thats one known lie.

[AtheistAussie]

@youngn420 I like that example, it illustrates why they shouldn't bother. George Bush should have had half a brain and "hidden" some in Iraq after occupation.. "voila".. we found them ! For the record, I never bought the lie when it was peddled. Your point is relevant and thought provoking though. Thanks.

[retroHC]

Are people still using CDMA and GSM?

[TruthSurge]

yeah, there's your kicker. 66 going into your head 24 hrs a day or 400 going into it for 30 seconds or say 5 min. And I'm assuming there is no data on an acceptible threshold yet since the things haven't been around long enough for scientists to understand the links between it and health but for my money, fuck a tower in my backyard. :) thanks for the vid!

[retroHC]

Every one know only Smart Phones make you Dumb full with cancer! ;)

[TheAtheistPaladin]

Radio waves cannot effect biological matter. It just physically impossible.

[NoMoreC2]

@TheAtheistPaladin Corn has ears.

[TruthSurge]

@TheAtheistPaladin affect

[TheAtheistPaladin]

@TruthSurge

You're right. It is being used as a verb here. So it is affect.

[TruthSurge]

@TheAtheistPaladin Effect can be a verb or a noun. The effect was great. noun. I effected a lot of change in my time on earth. Verb. It affected me greatly. Not it effected (caused) me greatly. Just my small affect on grammar! hhahahaha wassup?

[AtheistAussie]

@TheAtheistPaladin Ever microwaved a potato ?

[TheAtheistPaladin]

@AtheistAussie

Yeap, problem is microwaves are a high energy ban and are prefect suited for exciting water molecules.  Radio waves however pass thru matter harmlessly because they are low energy. You should really look into this. Its all a matter of physics.

[deedubya286]

@TheAtheistPaladin Microwaves will excite water molecules and have a heating effect but they don't have sufficient energy to ionize molecules which is what can cause cancer when the affected molecule happens to be in the wrong place in the DNA.

Visible light is higher frequency and therefore higher energy than microwaves but doesn't cause cancer until you get to ultra violet.

If your phone was cranking out enough microwave energy to burn you you'd know it right away.

[TheAtheistPaladin]

@deedubya286

exactly.

[AtheistAussie]

@TheAtheistPaladin Microwaves are radio waves. Microwave ovens operate 2,45 Ghz, GSM mobiles operate in several bands 900Mhz and 1.8 Ghz in Aus. Domestic microwave ovens 1500W-ish, GSM towers 75W ERP typical (big difference in power and proximity, microwave are optimised in frequency for water dipole heating). Studies also show that even a humble cellphone is capable of internally heating . Radio waves definitely affect biological matter... it's a question of what level is 'safe'.

[TheAtheistPaladin]

@AtheistAussie

As deedubya said above, microwaves are non-ionizing. Ionization is a main component in DNA damage, which into to lead to cancer. Now if your putting out enough energy that can cook flesh, then that could be a problem of its own. Only reason microwave ovens work so well is that the shielding allows for the build up of the waves. So If I were to take the magnetron out I wouldn't be able to cook anything with it. So much for my ray gun...

[AtheistAussie]

@TheAtheistPaladin Microwaves are radio waves, just different part of the EM spectrum. I can assure you radio waves do interact with biological matter (I have a scar from RF burns from handling a live feedline.. s 28Mhz signal). Sure the shield allows standing waves to build up (I have heard it suggested that the skull does something similar and creates nodal/antinodal points and localised hotspots). Microwaves are radio waves, and radio waves interact with biological matter.

[TheAtheistPaladin]

@AtheistAussie

Any live antenna line will burn your hand. I was a part of the U.S. Army Signal corp, and that the first thing they teach you. Most elements that transmits anything has some heat out put. That is what probably burned you. We are bombarded from man-made and natural radio waves every day. They don't do anything to us, You really have to pump up the power before you would see any effects. I doubt cell phones are that much of a hazard unless you can literally talk an ear off.

[hevyAccel]

I wonder how many people are complaining about hand cancer. I know my phone is in my hand a lot more than in my ear.

[hevyAccel]

I gotta say, I do usually get annoyed at the American jokes. I don't know why. I'm American, but I do actually get the jokes.

I do teach my kids metric, even though in my thirties its a little like a foreign language. (I speak 3) It's a little hard to translate since we don't use it everyday. I still have to in my mind say "OK, this X many kilometers is this many meters is this many miles is this many feet, so its this many inches, and HOLY COW ITS IN CENTIMETERS!?" It's hard to change thinking

[AtheistAussie]

@hevyAccel Your kids will appreciate your efforts in time. I can't understand why America doesn't want metric, it's so easy, just prefixes and multipliers.

[EnXess]

This guy convinced me to get a Nokia phone instead of an Apple phone! Nokia, if you're reading this you should give him free stuff and what-not!

[AtheistAussie]

@EnXess Yes.. yes nokia, listen to what this guy is saying !

[jimthepleb]

AA is the rolf harris of maths: 'bum dee dumm bumm dumm..wobble wobble wobble....bom chukka bum chukka chukka .....can you guess how irradiated you are yet?"

[AtheistAussie]

@jimthepleb Hah.. I just giggled at that mental image.

[notinmyname2050]

Is the recent paper you're referring to the W.H.O. report that came out a few weeks back? If so, it's been pretty roundly trounced by the experts since publication.

scienceblogs (dot com) /insolence/2011/06/the_bride_o­f_the_son_of_the_revenge_of_c.­php

[Kargoneth]

At 9:25, shouldn't the number be 9, not 16?

[AtheistAussie]

@Kargoneth YES ! Well done.

[AtheistAussie]

@Kargoneth Annotated.. thank you man.

[MacNutz2]

I am cave man. I do not own or ever use a cell phone. So I've not been worried but now I know a lot more about it than before. t'anks

[AtheistAussie]

@MacNutz2 Cool

[CanadienAtheist]

An interesting way to lay it out.

I guess there is reason to be concerned about the electromagnetic soup we live in, but if we are going to panic let's at least make sure it's over the right thing.

I think this sort of thing is part of the reason I don't use my cell phone all that much. I never was much for yapping on the phone but I do less of it since getting rid of the land line.

[rozeboosje]

I had been looking forward to seeing this one! Nice.

[AtheistAussie]

@rozeboosje Thanks for your help. As you can see, I named a new SI unit in your honour.

[rozeboosje]

@AtheistAussie Yeah, I noticed that :P

[AuntieDiluvian]

Very informative. I think the phone towers are sending secret messages to the reptilians on Nabiru, too. Oh, and they're also phallic symbols :)

[klangeddon]

@AuntieDiluvian And they vibrate too!

[AtheistAussie]

@AuntieDiluvian I bet willy uses a bananaphone.

[tctheunbeliever]

@AuntieDiluvian And they attract ghosts.

[superfuzz]

omg if we believe you then everything is healthy. should we be glad about flouride in the water? what about mercury in our teeth and vaccinations?? what about tax?/ you're just debunking stuff for the sake of it now. you can stick your mobile phone tower where the sun don't shine mate

[AtheistAussie]

@superfuzz Where did I say it was completely safe? By the way, you computer screen is irradiating you.

[TheTruePooka]

@AtheistAussie A porn picture screen saver lessens the effect of that radiation. This is a known fact.

[troy2062]

@TheTruePooka

Hmm... You don't say...

Well, I suppose your health comes first.

[AtheistAussie]

@TheTruePooka I want Anunnaki pr0n !

[Vehementi]

@AtheistAussie Everything is irradiating us.

[AtheistAussie]

@Vehementi We are being radiated all the time.. background radiation 24/7.

[Vehementi]

@AtheistAussie 'Sactly what I was getting at. :p

Everything in the universe emits radiation, even us. :)

[nelliediddle]

People talk on the Cell phones? I virtually never do, mind you I'm texting a lot :D Good video.

Can you do one on windmill power, this is a big argument going on right now

[AtheistAussie]

@nelliediddle Sounds like a load of hot air to me .. sorry, had to say it.

[DownUnderDoug]

Cool thanks for explaining that, I use a 3G phone and 3G wireless internet

[AtheistAussie]

@DownUnderDoug Thanks for the comment Doug.

[TradieTrev]

Logarithmic bitchin' scale!

[AtheistAussie]

@TradieTrev Feedlnes made of COPPPAAAAAHH !

[PsychedelikMonk]

I'm so glad you got to contiuous exposure... That was bugging me for the first half of the video.

All food for thought - and I wish there were more people debating in math, rather than headlines...

Speaking of math and headlines - I read today that they want to phase out Pi and replace it with Tau in education... I don't see the advantage - do you have an opinion on it?

[JoFreddieFSM]

@PsychedelikMonk have a look at /watch?v=jG7vhMMXagQ gives a clear demonstration of what advantage could be (sorry for going OT)

[AtheistAussie]

@PsychedelikMonk I don't know enough to have an opinion, but with math terms I tend to be slightly conservative.

[paranorma1palace]

i dont trust the towers either tbh, it seems a little optimistic to suggest that a tower bouncing signals from earth to space and back would be a good place to sleep under for 20 yrs :)

[Adrianlunnon]

@paranorma1palace until you understand the science behind it and then it doesn't seem to bad.

[AtheistAussie]

@Adrianlunnon Figured you would probably enjoy this one. Cheers mate. 

[MalcumTurnbullMP]

iPhones kill Mexican children

[MalcumTurnbullMP]

wot about effect of towers upon one's mental health?

[AtheistAussie]

@MalcumTurnbullMP I actually want to do a video on any possible effects like that. Big project.

[MalcumTurnbullMP]

@AtheistAussie - yes because any mental health issues will be purely subjective psychological responses not bound by empirical values and laws and be virtually immaterial. For extreme example what psychological impact, good or bad, would a tower have upon a blind and deaf man living under one?

[paranorma1palace]

towers ? what about the phones, tbh man i love a lot of you videos but im not with you on this one, mobile phone tech has been released without testing, we are the fucking testers, no company would test a product for 30-40 yrs before releasing it, so the public are very much the beta testers, i dont like my kids using mobile phones, and i dont like using mine either, lets forget about cancer or any of that, just simple emf's can have an effect on the blood brain barrier leaking albumin

[AtheistAussie]

@paranorma1palace ummm phones are the main problem. Not the towers. Didn't I make that clear ?

[paranorma1palace]

@AtheistAussie

i dunno probably i typed post before watching all the video, its a bad habit of mine :)

[cheddar07]

@paranorma1palace for some reason i think you did not watch the video, as that's exactly what he said.

[paranorma1palace]

@cheddar07

for some reason i think you didnt read the comments, coz thats exactly what i said hheeh :)