USS constitution firing cannons July 4th 2008 doing 21 cannon solute in boston harbor on Independence Day

[redsox33413]

Please keep in mind that on a ship over 200 years old, they will NOT fire the cannons as rapidly as if it were "back in the day" under battle conditions. The age of the ship and its value as a historic artifact dictate the much slower firing of cannons. That being said, it is nice to see the exchange of respectful comments back and forth about our various countries' histories and our love for these beautiful treasures from a time gone by.

[RedneckSwede]

Slow firing.... how could you lot ever win the war of independance? inexperienced gunners... inexperienced officers and inexperienced soldiers..... sheer dumb luck I'd say and now you numbnuts pretend to rule the whole world..... the land of the free and the home of the brave my arse....... sweep your own front yard before you star sweeping someone elses

[lander4545]

@RedneckSwede United States rule the world you say. Guess you forgot about that British Empire Conquest thing you had going on for a few hundred years. You know where Britain went in as terrorists to conquer countries against there will?

[lander4545]

@RedneckSwede United States rule the world you say. Guess you forgot about that British Empire Conquest thing you had going on for a few hundred years. You know where Britain went in as invaders to conquer countries against there will?

[mrgregwoody]

First of all the Victory would have to catch thw Constitution,not happening.Second frigates aren't designed to take on ships of the line.3rd the British had no problem designing their next generation of frigates based on The Constitution's captured sister ship the President..The Victory may have won an engagement but it would have been a long painful voyage home to England..

[Talbot6832]

@mrgregwoody The HMS Victory against the Constitution would be the equivalent of her going up against those poor undermanned British 38's that were simply there to blockade. The mismatch was obvious which is why HMS Shannon came along and embarrassed most of Boston.

[Goldorion420]

Pretty sure in the end, a Pennsylvania class battleship would dominate the HMS victory and such.

[ToaJoe]

@Goldorion420 Lol, don't even make me laugh. Do you really believe a single American sailor could face Lord Nelson? Nelson would have killed you all merely by being awesome and forcing you to suffer heart attacks. Seriously, don't fuck with Nelson. Everyone knows he is the greatest admiral of all time, even the French & Spanish.

[Peter43John]

The Constitution would NEVER attempt battle with the Victory! That would be like a Fletcher class destroyer fighting the King George V!!

[MrDeano324]

@Truthseekerfinder, this is nothing special, one broadside from the HMS Victory and Constitutions hull would resemble a smouldering mess of chared shattered wood and bits of dead bodies. The USA were no where near maritime (or world) powers in the 18th and 19th century.

[telamontamyrlin]

@MrDeano324

What a sad little person you must be.

[SuddenPizza]

@MrDeano324 Absolutley, British maritime power helped them win the Revolution.....no wait a minute.....ah the War of 1812......no wait let me think........well in the mean time, im sure the HMS Victory would have dominated those irocllades of the American Civil War....i mean come on iron plates on a naval ship, what a silly idea ;-)

[bluebelly07]

@SuddenPizza - Sorry man, but those 11" Dahlgren guns aboard the USS Monitor would have absolutely destroyed the HMS Victory, had they fought! (Look what happened to the USS Kearsarge - sunk by the CSS Merrimack.) Iron plates on a naval ship - silly idea?? Why, it forever made obsolete, the building of wooden naval war ships, by any country!!

[exugoareo]

@bluebelly07 He was being sarcastic.

[kpadmirer]

@bluebelly07 I doubt that the Brits would have sent Victory up against the Monitor when they had HMS Warrior available.

[MrDeano324]

@SuddenPizza

Just seen your comment while sorting out my inbox. Must have missed it. Quite a while ago now but any who...First off, France won the revolution for the colonies, do some reasurch on that. Secondly, HMS Victory and the civil war ironclads were in different time periods. One of those Ironclads would not win against a modern day destroyer would it?. And thridly, it was the British industrial revolution that gave the world ironclads. Bad idea that industrial revolution wasnt it? ;-)

[drizztinator]

@MrDeano324

HMS Victory = Ship of the Line

USS Constitution = Frigate

ANY Frigate vs ANY Ship of the Line = no contest.

ANY other Frigate vs USS Constitution = no contest.

[yeehawwoohoo]

@MrDeano324 oh stop hatin on her lol

[jannarta]

There is no such word as solute.

The word is salute and it is a greeting by display of military,naval, or other official honors or honours as by presenting arms , firing cannon etc.jannarta.

[jannarta]

Cannon is both singular and plural. e.g.

" I hear cannon fireing "

"I hear the cannon fire".

It is artillery collectively and also singularly. It is also to fire repeatedly and to rebound off another as in a game of bowls. There are no cannons plural. jannarta.