You have to stop pushing all in with pockets or ace anything, they arent invincible and everyones had bad beats.Suck it up and stop mashing the all in button obviously its not working
honestly id consider it torture if i only played online.. how many awful beats can you take.. there aren't even any odds online. every hand is a coin flip.. its actually more like slot machine poker..
Thanks for the video, man. At the end you say they "can't hide forever" and you were right. They are shut down now. It was your fault for trusting on the honesty of an online gambling site. I fell for the same thing before, but I'm so smart now that I only play in real casino with real people now. The results and atmosphere is much better. I wouldn't even practice Poker online on Zynga because the outcome are so stupid that it almost impossible to happen in real live. Kind of like Porn.
every one of these examples is just another poker hand. nothing unusual or rigged about any of them. if you think otherwise, you're simply not a real poker player.
@SimonCowellGBreading between the lines? Waw, you're so intelligent! In stead of crying about your bad beats and blaming the game, blame yourself - crybaby. I am fully aware of what happened but that doesn't prove the game is rigged you nob.
@051985bumblebee honestly? I have not lost any money online with poker but never won any big tournament money because I'm just not good enough for that. I'm not dumb enough to blow my pay-check on poker if that is what you mean.
BUBUBUBUBU the site is rigged cos I had a bad beat BUBUBUBU
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If you can't take the heat, don't play the game. I've had thousands of bad beats in real life cash games, it happens. Some nights you will lose EVERYTHING.
@NathanVu yes it does, I play live poker every week my fine friend. your assumptions hold no ground. Saying this doesn't happen in real life is a straightout lie.
Wtf? Lately i seem to be runnning into quads on Full Tilt almost on a daily basis. What the F@#k, is this due to a 'softwarematic alternation' or am i just too ignorant to see this sh!t was always going on...
You people think every time your dealt aces or kings your supposed to automatically win the hand. It's fucking poker the best hand doesn't always win. I guarantee that if you take a large sample of hands (and not just the ones where you got unlucky) you will see that the better hands win the right amount of the time. If you people actually knew anything about odds you would know that with the amount of people playing online there is always going to be someone who will be having really bad luck
the reasons they do this? my thoughts are to keep the lesser players on there,creating more rakes,strange how on free play the hands hold up,luring people into there trap so they deposit.if i start with a ten dollers and you the same and we kept folding to each other eventually it would be gone in rakes,so thats why they pass it about random winners not random cards,really is no difference than a fruit machine.and before any one critisises i go casino and nearly always get down to the last table
i play approx 18hrs a day online poker every day,played for 4-5 years,seen everything that poker can chuck at you,played all sites more or less,and yes i to beleive they all are rigged not just the one in question,10 seater table and no matter wat cards u have the people in the pot mostly hit,90% of the time im in front on all ins yet 100% down.not counting the disconnects with aa,ak or the winning hand,then comes the no hands at all for 4-5 hours solid,30 all ins in a row to lose them all
Not necessarily based off your hands but if hundreds of other poker sites made money off rigging their games while getting away with it for so long: why wouldn't the top sites create more elaborate ways of rigging their games? Players going through a huge emotional swing tend not to think clearly, possibly resulting in a spur-of-the-moment deposit.
I have no reason to believe any poker site doesn't rig their games to some degree. It's too profitable.
Full Tilt Joker is fucking retarded. Anytime a 2-suited flop drops, and someone then pushes all-in, you KNOW your overpair is gonna get sucked out. Bullshit site always rewards the retard who calls a raise/re-raise with some shit like K8s. I cashed out, then quite literally told FTP to fuck off.
@DumberEveryTime It is so true - if you're in with AK and some donk calls you with A3, you know a 3 is coming. I know people will say "That's bound to happen by law of averages" but it's something like 7 times out of 10 the rag card hits.
@Skdo87 The hand that you're referring to happened at the end of a session in which I lost nearly every single hand. I'm sure many viewers are familiar with this feeling. Anyhow, I know the hand could have been played better, but the point of was to show how the "cards" are so perfectly matched to induce action and get players out of the game.
By the way, it's funny how some of you twats pick a certain hand to nit on and omit all the others.
@Skdo87 bro don't kid yourself.. do you really trust a computer program to shuffle your shit.. they cheat in so many ways online.. people are so gullible though, apparently everyone in the world is a saint and they couldn't possibly do that to them lol
it did happen to me too, lost a lot of hands that way .. but hey... what you want now?
lets all show how we all lost... please do try to remember that poker is a luck game, the online version anyway.
it's not like every every single time you hit KK QQ JJ AA or what ever you are gonna win. You have AA, that DOESN'T mean that you won the hand. Real poker is not about ALL IN .. and wait for the good cards. some of you dont know that.
Its actually Alderny Gaming Commission that governs Full Tilt I had sent numerous emails which the comish replied saying full tits is doing it right. I think the only solution here is to send them more emails and link it to plays like this and see what they have to say.
NEWS PEOPLE!! FULL TILT POKER, POKERSTARS, AND ULTIMATE BET HAVE ALL BEEN SEIZED BY THE FBI!!!! IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME, TRY GOING TO THERE WEBSITES!! THIS IS THE PROOF THAT ITS RIGGED!!
It makes you really wonder if Isildur1 was on to something shoving with his gut draws for 400k, maybe he noticed that full tilt is made for the underdog to suck out and capitalized on it.
first i went all in with KK, ofc someone got aces..... then i got KK again... hit aces again.... then i got aces -> lost to kings, aces-> lost to queens. and the biggest goal:
lost with AA against K4 ... cards on table: A4644
lost with AA against 37s .... ofc, the donkey got flush ;) no online poker for me anymore
if you stop going all-in every time you get something pretty and actually study some poker theory you might understand that the game is rigged only for bad players. But I guess that if you already made up your mind about this it means that you are not having fun playing poker, and in this case I really recommend that you find a better hobby for yourself.
It is a fact that aces hit the board about 3 times more on average than any other card on FT. Just track it with any tracker. Calculating that fact in your allins should help.
Its good to see that I'm not alone in this belief.I can see a bad beat happening but as much as it does on FT...If you are the low stack and you get dealt kk,just fold it cause it is a Ft suck out hand...The big stack seems to win with what ever they cal with.
fulltilt is a huge scam. their goal is to make you lose that you spend at the checkout. They think we fooled with these algorithms shit. Only the idiots who believe it is not rigged. This is the room of the devil son of a bitch. pokerstars vigilance is worse!
Thanks for posting this. I used to play on FT and PS lots but got bad beats all the time. The problem is that the algorithm that generates hands "seems to be" biased. Bias means its still within the odds of random probability but that draws are slightly less likely than real play. Ever noticed there is almost never a split pot in FT and how often it actually does occur in real play? Don't waste your time and money on the site. I know it's tempting but find a local cash game and take the cash!!!
You just seem to shove all in on every hand you showed in the video. The problem with doing this on a flush draw or a with hand like AK is you will only get called by a "made" hand, or a hand that has potential to crush your hand on the flop. Which means you are maybe 60/40 either way. Do the math, improve your post flop play. Try to not pot commit every time you have a good hand. Stop flipping coins and start playing poker.
@F0Xpilot 100% correct... Quit shoving all in and play the cards dealt... If you actually play high stakes you dont get these people that call with K8 or A4
@F0Xpilot Maybe in a real game. But bankokist was beat by dogs more often than not. KK is clearly better than A anything and should have own at least 3 out of 5 times.
I don't really think that this shows Full Tilt is rigged, it just shows you had a streak of bad luck. For example the first hand AKoff vs. K8 suited, say the percentages are 80% to 20%(Im pretty much making these up), if you run it 100 times, 80 times AK holds up, but 20 times, K8 will hit an 8, or some hearts, its just how the cards fall.
Why are their players on full tilt that win a big major and you never see them play another game? I know of 5 names that won big and hasn't played a single game afterwards which is odd.
I am not sold that it is rigged to any ONE person. However, I have been beat big time in the last two days with bad beats shit........ What it appears is that the site encourages morons to go ALL in or CALL ALL in's with a shit hand only to give them the turn or river for the win. Happened to me today almost wiped out my entire bank roll..... thought about making a video of it ........ Just cannot believe the odds..... and I know odds but sure as shit this moron hit his straight ON THE RIVER !
its rigged...no ifs and or buts about it...the cunts who play like shit are protected by the cunts who run the site...and the site is defended by other cunts who are either payed by the site or cant put 2 and 2 together
its called a bad beat. this same exact thing happens when you play live, i see it happen all the time. if the best hand won every time, poker wouldnt be very much fun.. i do feel bad for ya, some of those bad beats were pretty sick
online sites are a joke, if you are new to the site you will get a ridiculous amount of good luck. I made 7-8 final tables in a row in tournies over 200 ppl, i finished 6th out of 1200 people for $1200 and at the time i was not a good player at all. I had basically just started playing poker.
I notice aswell in MTT's the shorter stack, even if its by 100 chips will get ridiculous bad beats as if the site is trying to get players out of the tournament as quickly as possible.. live poker ftw
I can't; believe it man,first day I made a deposit I won the first 2.25 SNG,I flopped quads of queens,I find it wery aquard like FT is feeding the new players.
Few days later I build my bankroll with over 50 D profit.
Next days...I lost with AA,KK ,I lost with QQ vs KJ,QQ vs A9.
Once I got KK and reraised somebody he called me ,I raised it so I won't have no Ace suprises,he called,another blank ,I reraised he went all in.I tough he had AQ ,but no this fucking site gave him set of queens!Fuck FT
@PokerPlum until the past couple days I thought it was because I played so many more hands but now I think their cash games are tweaked for action to increase the rake and reward calling big bets. I ve given up on cash games online. I am sticking to sit and goes where there is no rake per pot and no reason to rig it towards one player or another (beyond favoritism to its pros but I dont play at that level).
just go to a casino. Much better play, more fun and its just better. Plus online poker gets rid of the most important part, reading people. playing without that is just bogus.
I don't go near full tilt just because of 1 hand. Turbo $50K Guarantee rebuy, 7th out of 55 (1 away from paid places), at the table with a pro who is on the button with me on the big blind, he limps in with what turned out to 4 5 suited against my pocket aces, flop.... wait for it As Ad 6c, I just check he puts in a minimum bet and I re-raise. HE then moves all-in and obviously I call.........TURN 3c RIVER 7c GIVING HIM A STRAIGHT FLUSH! full tilt definately favours its pro's
man you guys just suck you married to pocket pairs and ka highs just because you have those card does not meen your going to win with them everytime so dont be stupid and go all in pre flop because you think your going to win, and before you make a stupid bet observe the river and think of the hands your opponent could have idiots just because you hav a aa flop does not mean your going to win think before you play fool if its rigged why did I put 50 bucks in 6 months ago and now have ove 2K???
@GODXSMOKESXHASH because I do NOT believe you made such a high profit . Are you sure you only depsited 50$. Besides I played on Pokerstars not FT. I just can't seem to win. Every time i'm in the money I lose against ubelievable odds. My hand KK the other 2 7. I raise preflop he calls. Nothing for me on the flop but only Q63 I go all in with an average stack but he was highstack. He calls turn 4 river a 5. He has a straight and kills my kings. I do not even know what the odds were practicly 0.
@2Manolo3 he just got lucky Ive had bad beats before to and Ive also had lucky wins just yesterday I had a q10 of spades river was 9 of spades and k8 I went to check the box to call and a split sec before I hit the the call box the guy before me goes all in I think oh no because I didnt want to go all in I was just going to call a small bet but i clicked it and I went all in by mistake one guy has KK other guy had A9 guess what 2 cards fell 2 spades leaving me with a 17 doller pot
@GODXSMOKESXHASH it's always like that for me I always get beaten on the river by runners. Not because I play bad poker. If you say it's not rigged I dare you to withdraw all your money exept 50$. I bet you WILL get an amazing bad luck streak. But they will say hey that's poker. And they are right. Still those patterns are not normal.
read this site. h.t.t..p ://tommeny.com/2006/12/22/the-bible-of-rigged-online-poker-2/
@2Manolo3 dont go all in on a pair of kings when the river gives you nothing. play it safe you may lose out on some hands but if you take minimal risks you will have minimal loses I mean yes everybody takes risks sometimes just dont be stupid. I lose sometimes to u cant always win when you think you have the better hand Ive had K high straights that i went all in on with 30 doller only to see the other guy had a ace high poker is poker there will be bad beats and lucky wins its not rigged lol
@GODXSMOKESXHASH normally I wouldn't go all in but it was higher up in the game with high blinds I had to make my move sooner or later or let the blinds bleed me to death. I thought that it was a sure deal. I knew he was donking his way up with crappy hands. Seems he got lucky again.
@2Manolo3 that site trys to prove a good point but really there is no proof in this its just peoples thoughts and ideas when you have some real hard evidence let me know then I will withdraw my cash and stop playing
So if this site is rigged why cant the Full Tilt creators be taken to court. People should keep their hand history on file or log it and then report this. I am sure over thousands of people have evidence to back up a case against this site.
But I have a friend who plays full tilt and he consistently gets checks in the mail from full tilt...he plays about 6 or 7 tables at one time...and folds most of the time.
@001MeTaBoLiC100 Yeah well..explain to me why the only big pots I lose are donks who have gone all in and hit the 1 card they need on the river to suck out. I played the best poker of my life tonight and I got taken down by bullshit on the river...I had AK vs AQ and the fucker hit three queens on the turn and river after an ace and a king hit the flop and that was just 1 occurrence out of 5. I'm joining stars.
@WannaBeBalla1 That's what im trying to say I have donks calling me chasing the river card all the time. When the river card hits I know they have won the pot, even though I was heavily favored to win the pot before the river. I wouldnt join pokerstars I hear it is the same if not worse than Full Tilt. I play on PKR and Full Tilt and noticed the same patterns, i'm sure they all use similar software for online poker. I still play real money but am very careful when I play.
@rimmyou69 a noob? I have been a member of full tilt poker for about a year now and have made a nice profit off it. I have been playing poker for over 10 years and i am not a noob. And just so you know ftp has no reason to rig there site why would they. ftp takes a small amount of cash out of each pot weather you win or lose. EX if you go all in and somebody calls you it doesnt matter to ftp who wins and who loses they still take the same amount of cash from the pot. Fish think its rigged
yes, only been there a year, that is a newbie. just wait for a while, you WILL see its rigged, believe me. Only way you wont is if your are a dreamer or blind.
@GODXSMOKESXHASH to get me to deposit more money...Ive played the best poker of my life the past two days...I took down countless small pots but it was the made hands that left me almost broke. I have been 1 outed on the river or had runner runner bullshit so many times its fucking ridiculous.
I saw the PATTERN long ago , short stack w/ best hand all in will lose 90 % of time to speed up tourney and get you to sign up for another other words the FASTER these games go , THE MORE FUCKING MONEY THE MAKE , PERIOD .
ITS RIGGED !
bLOG - FULL TILT POKER IS NOT RANDOM , READ WHAT EX PROGRAMMER SAYS
A. - GIVES Details how program changes after BREAK , short stacks given big hand to go all in in tourney just to be raped by rigged flop .
C. They use House players that change names frequently
Personally I don't think that any poker site is rigged because that would be illegal on the their part, which would land them in ALOT of trouble if they were legitimately cheating. And I don't believe there is an effective client based way of cheating either!
I generally think that people just use "cheating" as an excuse because they either get sucked out on or they think they are better players than they actually are.
Play live instead if you're still convinced online is rigged?
@Dogbuggery Are u out of your fucking mind , do some reading . UB POKER & ABSOLUTE , BOTH were caught cheating by employees who were reading hole cards and had to pay back hundreds of thousands of dollars and that just 2 big sites and there are others .
"Trouble" by who , its not regulated and the guy caught cheating at ABSOLUTE , WASN'T even prosecuting , READ . He walked away with millions . READ - GOOGLE story . Geesuz you're ignorant .
@franz909 Mate how long ago did that happen to UB? (Plus a staff member created a back door user account for someone) and I've never heard of Absolute! So that proves how popular that site is! I'm not ignorant it's just you're just a fucking idiot. There have been two cases of super users and you're agreeing that the number of videos "exposing" cheats are valid?
Sadly i don't have enough space to expose your arguement as complete bollocks so,
i like to read peopls theorys on how the hand was played wrong, fact is it doesntmatter, you could call, min raise, go all inn, if they want it to happen t will., its not poker
@Chroniclogical420 to add to that u go all in with aa, and he folds, it just meens next time you see a huge hand and your winning, they will fuck you anyways IT DOESNT MATTER PROS DONT PLAY ONLINE POKER, THEY EXCEPT THE FREE BUY INS TO PUBLICALLY SAY THEY ARE ASSOCIATED.
online poker is pre determind winners the min the hand is delt. YOU CVAN WIN only it has to be that 1 or 2 hours of that month you playq and are allowed good hands to win, play anymore you loose. I dont know 1 person including myself who has won more then a grand in 1 night ( verry possible) but played the next day and won aswell, it just does not happen, if u expect to make something online you need to go huge for 1 day ad 1 day only cash out and never come back
i love how they dont only rape the better hand but they kick you in the ass, like the q-7 not onlly flopps 3 7s to your aa, but tops it off niceley with a queen. if it makes u feel better ibelieve all they are doing its letting that guy feel special for the time being, untill the enebadable happens and hes screwed to the next rook, now in the constant loop of depositing, getting great hands, adding to the pot addink to the rake the site ollects, just to loose and restart all over again
Its a program rigged for the big stacks to move the tournament along quicker so the site can make more dollars per hour. Notice all the beats u took u were the short stack.The site favors the big stacks to end the tournaments faster
@TheFkstick True that, always as short stack im losing of FT : TT vs Q3 - queen comes. AK vs A6 trip sixes comes... ALWAYS with better hand as short stack u lose. Always after bad beat, when u are left with lets say 40 chips u can shove them and ALWAYS u will win... 400 chips or something, dont even metter. But the soft works in this scheme. All pokersites are rigged as hell, card generator is flawed as hell.
This site is ridiculous why cant they ban full tilt or any other site most of them are obviously rigged. I might as well throw math out the window and just hope to get lucky oh wait a sec. there is no such thing as luck here.
whenever i'm holding KK or AA... I can only pray they hold up. Usually some clown will push holding a 10 4 off or something.. only for the flop to come out 7 10 4. The bad beats are INCESSANT. If you're short stacked.. forget it. Big stacks ALWAYS win flips in tourneys.. regardless of the holding. Full tilt is RIGGED without a doubt.
I like how people try to explain how 'Poker Isn't Rigged', who are you trying to convince yourself lol?, any and most intelligent logical poker players, are very good at math and poker in general, you see the same patterns over and over, you almost 'Know' whats gonna come when you see your hand all in pre flop, post flop vs a 9 to 1 underdog, you lose the 'Majority' of the time, everyone knows this. I dont need to convince anyone, I convinced myself from experience. Simple as quitting for good.
the reason this happens friend is..the random gen. is contantly shuffling cards..so it means the deck is being constantly stack against ya.ur oppents gets and edge by his cards always being shuffled to the top..and when a card is called it pulls whatever one is on top..live games the deck is left where it is after cut..but no FT it gives an edge for pairs to be cracked HU..i get alot of slack explaining this to ppl but they dont believ..i would even take away my outs with AA KK to leave deck
ok i think full tilt is rigged to and howard ledderer is a cock sucker but your handicapped you playing tournements while your making a video about the site been rigged are you mentely challagened if so lets play
Fact! These sites run with total immunity from prosecution from any country where there players are from. If that does not ring any alarms then nothing well. If you had that kind of security would fairness and integrity be your top priority? You well find no truth from poker pros on them because they love what its done for the game. They make more money wearing a online poker site shirt then they do playing anyways. How can you blame them. In this day and age everybody is working a angle
Fact! These sites run with total immunity from prosecution from any country where there players are from. If that does not ring any alarms then nothing well. If you had that kind of security would fairness and integrity be your top priority? You well find no truth from poker pros on them because they love what its done for the game. They make more money wearing a online poker site shirt then they do playing anyways. How can you blame them. In this day and age everybody is working a angle period
@Izaak247 I just had it happen to me 5 times in a single fucking night. same shit last night. I dont mind losing within reason ppl suck out thats poker...but getting one outed on the river or runner runner bullshit time and time agin is just fucking suspicious. They are hoping to get another deposit out of me but it aint gonna fuckin happen. I checked my all-in percentages with premium hands and they arent anywhere near average and Ive played a megashitton of hands.
im not sure what rigged means in this case but im certain that the hands are numbered...which means that each hand has a played out winner and that means has more than one hand delt out that will look like the winner in the end.... to make the tournys move faster and get to the end cause once the tourny is filled and play begins... they get there money... and now ur just using there time...how do u think the daily dollar goes for only 8 hrs with 8k people... the main event goes 7 days... ...
im not sure what rigged means in this case but im certain that the hands are numbered...which means that each hand has a played out winner and that means has more than one hand delt out that will look like the winner in the end.... to make the tournys move faster and get to the end cause once the tourny is filled and play begins... they get there money... and now ur just using there time...how do u think the daily dollar goes for only 8 hrs with 8k people... the main event goes 7 days...
biggest online scam, has been for years. The RNG excuse is lame. Software can be manipulated. And when there's millions involved, the best programmers are working where the big $ are. Def not rocket science. The sad part is.... that players who are ITM... will defend the site to no end, but then again we're only human. I wish I had enough smarts to buy stock when OLP first came on board...lol
@scaper37 , howard lederer and the whole full tilt team should be lined up and shot execution style. To harsh you say, well stealing millions of dollars from u.s. customers while sitting around a table and playing high stakes with our money and laughing all the while, I think not!!. If someone in the U.S. tried to pull this scam off they would be put in prison for life. For some reason these fuckers have been running this scam for years and no one is doing a damn thing.
@xXiTzLeGiTXx , not exactly, it's called "scams happen" get involved. after all it's your money they're stealing. You ever wonder where these pros are getting all this money they're playing high stakes with, lol. Look in your wallet that's where. It's a mega scam, scaper37 is right on.
Why would anyone who is a successful online poker player be wasting their time watching youtube and commenting to defend a poker site where they are just a player. It doesnt make sense unless they are just a propaganda mouth piece with a vested interest in hiding the truth. Why are you fckin idiots on here anyway if you don't have a problem with your online poker site, to defend a corporation that has no idea who you are??? Think about it, it's deep. To find corruption follow the money.
Was playing against some guy from Germany or some shit. Asked him how the weather was. He said it was nice. I told him google weather said it was raining. He said, "Oh". I took screenshotz of a tournament where I sat out for awhile. When I came back one guy was going all in everytime for 40-50 hands and everybody else was folding. When i woke up my character and called his all in the guy shit his pants. This shit is rigged. No, if's ands or buts. The stories are endless.
I agree fuck all these pro's watchin the little man get scammed. Stop watchin, stop playin online, inform everybody. Start your own poker games in your town. Hit these bastards in their pockets. Start a website. Make a vow to never play on any of these shitty sites again. Help the people you know save their money. Talk about this shit so much that everyone in the world takes for granted this shit is rigged. Their Karma will return. They are probably a money laundry for some govt agency.
These sites have all been busted before (superusers) no one went to jail. The headquarters are offshore and can't be monitored, prosecuted or extradited. If we can launch and send a guided nuclear missile 100's of miles an hour by satellite to precise locations, then the owners, creators and controllers of this online poker hardware can manipulate it. How many Belarus, Ukraine and other users are there? Really? Copy and Paste this everywhere. Lets shut these bastards down! Fyt bak, now!!
You claim it's rigged, yet you're still playing two other tables at the same time whilst showing us hand histories lmao? Also i see you got Aces on the other table a couple of times and went all in and won. GET OVER YOURSELF
ladbrokes is fucking disgraceful aswell these online con merchant bastards should be stripped of every fucking penny, flogged in the street then banged up with berni maydorf the bastards
your gonna lose roughly 1 in 3 times to someone who holds a flush draw so its not like your even getting sucked out on that bad... also like every other "bad beat" you lost to had you dominated in chips, a huge factor in tournament or sng play.
of course its a well organized lucrative criminal racket. Im pretty sure maltliq is working with the company in some capacity, he goes around posting how stupid people are when they show proof of how rigged the site is. Lets just think about human nature, lol. The money is compounded up the stake levels and then is picked up by many of the full tilt bots.
lol too funny... i live in california and play live poker also for a living..u really dont know how stupid ur comment is.. but i can understand ur stupidity..only 10% of poker players actually make money and apparently you are not part of that group and u never will be..but as long as fulltilt is full of idiots like you im happy
@maltliq , lol, you must be one of the stupid naive fucking idiots I was talking about earlier. If you think online poker is real poker you have shit for brains. I've played real poker for years and I can tell you that online poker is pure bullshit as anyone with half a brain can. You are not making any money playing online I know it and you know it. Sure you can pretend that you are, but even you know you're getting fucked everytime you choose to play money online.
@beezleboe ol too funny... i live in california and play live poker also for a living..u really dont know how stupid ur comment is.. but i can understand ur stupidity..only 10% of poker players actually make money and apparently you are not part of that group and u never will be..but as long as fulltilt is full of idiots like you im happy
when did i tell you that your play there was bad? or pushing with 9 4 is good?
all i told ya is that you can lose, even with the better starting hand...it's called variance. instead of thinking about that you feel insulted by my comment, misread it and call me a donkey for sth i didn't say at all. you're the donkey that is not able to distinguish between rigged games and coolers.
man, it happens to all of us. there's just some guys like you that can't handle it
@sifffh I know I can lose with he better hand but you made it sound like I was an idiot for lsing or for getting mad at a moron for going allin with 9 off suit. I know I can loose with the best hand but that wasnt the point. I have lost too many times with the best hand on full tilt. I flopped a boat once I had K Q and the flop was K of clubs Q of hearts and K of diamons and this guy ahead of me gos all in. I call he has A 10 clubs. The turn comes Q of clubs then the river was a jack of clubs
was not my intention to make you look stupid. you didn't play bad there, again.
but: don't get fooled by such tough coolers. it happens to everyone. i'm just through 2 weeks of playing where i lost 16 buy-ins (!) just by moving in with kk preflop...and being up against aces for 16 fucking times. in 2 weeks. how cool is that?
if you analyse big portions of stats however, you will see that things equal out... variance is the keyword - math's law of big numbers at his best.
@sifffh , I'm really trying to figure you out, i've come to a conclusion. You are dillusional or retarded, I'm guessing you might be both. Read your own statement, you lost 16 buyins, K's vs A's 16 times in 2 weeks. You are so dillusional you don't even realize when you're getting fucked. It's not called variance, it's called rigged to hell and back and for some reason everyone is getting it but you. So, how many times do you have to get screwed before you realize you've been fucked, lol
@beezleboe actually there are listings you and vengeance can look up, shows the biggest cash game wins / losses for the day, week etc
Grinders track our hands, i can play upwards of 5000 hands in a single day, every single hand i play is logged and collated into lists. i have 10's of thousands of scenarios with A's, and the % difference between my instances of dif pkt pairs is down to .1% basicaly. Also he has no idea how to play omaha either, 2 pair on the river is like A high in hold em
@maltliq , I just love these fucking liars who say they're making a living off of online poker, lmao. Bank roll managment,hahahhahahhaha. Exactly how do you build a bankroll on a rigged site that fucks you every other hand. I would love to play you anyday maltiq, you're just another shit talking liar who has never won a dime and think people will believe that you make a living playing online. I have news for you NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Go back to your rigged poker room and lose some more, ha
@maltliq the guy was ahead every single time he put his money i.. what else can he do? its rigged.. the world was built on greed and corruption and online poker would not be an exception.. even if they make 100 billion a year they ll want more.. its human nature... GREED..
its not rigged you people just suck.. im a winning poker player on fulltilt regularly.. i make a living off people like you.. 10 reasons why your losing.. if u answer yes to two then thx for your support :)
1..you commit yourself with big pocket pairs --thx :)
2..you play your cards and not the person
3..poker is still gambling its not guaranteed.. but there are ways to go about online poker to make guaranteed money and you dont know what it is...
It is bullshit. I just got knocked out of a game when I wnt all in with A K suited and got called by 9 4 suited and he won. What the fuck. Yesterday I had a full house and this asshole goes allin on a draw and gets magic runner runner and gets a royal flush. Its bullshit and I'm getting sick of it.
if you can't handle variance, you can't handle the game....quit.
I mean, let's take your first example : do you really expect to win with AK against 9 4 everytime? there's two ways to go about it: tell yourself you did nothing wrong and that you'll win quiet some money in that spot in the long run - or whine like a sissie cuz you were not the chosen one to win with AK everytime.
all you whiners are epic fails in terms of character. please send me screennames of ftp, pp, and ps.
@sifffh Are you retarded. What the fuck would he be thinkin with 9 4? I play live asshole and I am not a joke like you are. Having the best hand and losing is not an epic fail you retard. He sucked out and you think he made a good play? You are a joke and need to shut your retarded mouth.You are a bitch and a little punk. You think ur a player but you are just as retarded as all the other retards who think by going in with 7 2 and sucking out that they made a good play. What a joke.
@sifffh How many hours have you sat at a casino and played live? I regularly do 30 hour sessions at live casinos retard. Internet players fail at live games. You know why? Cause they think its gona be like full tilt and they play like retards and lose their money. When an internet player shows up and goes all in everyhand like a retard internet donkey me and other regulars just get up and move and whn that retard donkey trys to get another table they wont let them play.
You have to stop pushing all in with pockets or ace anything, they arent invincible and everyones had bad beats.Suck it up and stop mashing the all in button obviously its not working
gimme420bob 4 days ago
lol the only people dumber than people who play online poker are people who play online blackjack..
051985bumblebee 2 months ago
honestly id consider it torture if i only played online.. how many awful beats can you take.. there aren't even any odds online. every hand is a coin flip.. its actually more like slot machine poker..
051985bumblebee 2 months ago
well, they got what they deserved. FTP and all OLP is rigged as the day is long.
rimmyou69 3 months ago
Thanks for the video, man. At the end you say they "can't hide forever" and you were right. They are shut down now. It was your fault for trusting on the honesty of an online gambling site. I fell for the same thing before, but I'm so smart now that I only play in real casino with real people now. The results and atmosphere is much better. I wouldn't even practice Poker online on Zynga because the outcome are so stupid that it almost impossible to happen in real live. Kind of like Porn.
NathanVu 4 months ago
every one of these examples is just another poker hand. nothing unusual or rigged about any of them. if you think otherwise, you're simply not a real poker player.
8rightPath 4 months ago
1 2... karmas coming for you...3 4... beter lock your door..5 6... your sites a fix...7 8. ..you tempted fate...9 10...you'll never walk again...
empxl 5 months ago
@k4l4sh77 Reading between the lines its clear that you are a spaz.
ps google full tilt ponzi and see what has been happening
pps you suck rock
SimonCowellGB 5 months ago
@SimonCowellGBreading between the lines? Waw, you're so intelligent! In stead of crying about your bad beats and blaming the game, blame yourself - crybaby. I am fully aware of what happened but that doesn't prove the game is rigged you nob.
k4l4sh77 4 months ago
@k4l4sh77 so rigged.. how much have you lost online.. be honest.. with yourself.
051985bumblebee 2 months ago
@051985bumblebee honestly? I have not lost any money online with poker but never won any big tournament money because I'm just not good enough for that. I'm not dumb enough to blow my pay-check on poker if that is what you mean.
k4l4sh77 2 months ago
BUBUBUBUBU the site is rigged cos I had a bad beat BUBUBUBU
CRYBABIES
If you can't take the heat, don't play the game. I've had thousands of bad beats in real life cash games, it happens. Some nights you will lose EVERYTHING.
k4l4sh77 5 months ago
Bad beat crybaby. Ever played live poker? The same shit happens, that's why it's called gambling.
k4l4sh77 5 months ago
@k4l4sh77
The same shit rarely happen in real live to be honest with you. I guess you never play live Poker.
NathanVu 4 months ago
@NathanVu yes it does, I play live poker every week my fine friend. your assumptions hold no ground. Saying this doesn't happen in real life is a straightout lie.
k4l4sh77 4 months ago
2011 the year online poker was finally caught!!!!!!
Chroniclogical420 8 months ago
oh if anyone didnt know if your all in preflop you cant win
iAmWheelss 8 months ago
Wtf? Lately i seem to be runnning into quads on Full Tilt almost on a daily basis. What the F@#k, is this due to a 'softwarematic alternation' or am i just too ignorant to see this sh!t was always going on...
MonstRMagnet 8 months ago
Well, i too think is rigged. Not only FT, but PS and all the online poker sites. But you know what? i keep on playing. So, shame on me...
IndecentManifest 8 months ago
You people think every time your dealt aces or kings your supposed to automatically win the hand. It's fucking poker the best hand doesn't always win. I guarantee that if you take a large sample of hands (and not just the ones where you got unlucky) you will see that the better hands win the right amount of the time. If you people actually knew anything about odds you would know that with the amount of people playing online there is always going to be someone who will be having really bad luck
BigNutsMcGee0 9 months ago 2
the reasons they do this? my thoughts are to keep the lesser players on there,creating more rakes,strange how on free play the hands hold up,luring people into there trap so they deposit.if i start with a ten dollers and you the same and we kept folding to each other eventually it would be gone in rakes,so thats why they pass it about random winners not random cards,really is no difference than a fruit machine.and before any one critisises i go casino and nearly always get down to the last table
MrHoldemace 9 months ago
i play approx 18hrs a day online poker every day,played for 4-5 years,seen everything that poker can chuck at you,played all sites more or less,and yes i to beleive they all are rigged not just the one in question,10 seater table and no matter wat cards u have the people in the pot mostly hit,90% of the time im in front on all ins yet 100% down.not counting the disconnects with aa,ak or the winning hand,then comes the no hands at all for 4-5 hours solid,30 all ins in a row to lose them all
MrHoldemace 9 months ago
Not necessarily based off your hands but if hundreds of other poker sites made money off rigging their games while getting away with it for so long: why wouldn't the top sites create more elaborate ways of rigging their games? Players going through a huge emotional swing tend not to think clearly, possibly resulting in a spur-of-the-moment deposit.
I have no reason to believe any poker site doesn't rig their games to some degree. It's too profitable.
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thezimmione 9 months ago
Full Tilt Joker is fucking retarded. Anytime a 2-suited flop drops, and someone then pushes all-in, you KNOW your overpair is gonna get sucked out. Bullshit site always rewards the retard who calls a raise/re-raise with some shit like K8s. I cashed out, then quite literally told FTP to fuck off.
DumberEveryTime 9 months ago
@DumberEveryTime It is so true - if you're in with AK and some donk calls you with A3, you know a 3 is coming. I know people will say "That's bound to happen by law of averages" but it's something like 7 times out of 10 the rag card hits.
Eldomina22 9 months ago
This reminds me of me last week, I swear I ran worse, I once had qqq guy had 666 all in on the turn lucky 6 river
Izaak247 9 months ago
Friggin AWESOME....LOLOLOLOLOL... JJ, QQ, KK, AK.....LMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
t0mmygunnz 9 months ago
That stuff happens all the time, it's just badluck.
LieD3414 10 months ago
During the first hand of an omaha tournament you went all in with two pair?! You'd better learn how to play...
Skdo87 10 months ago
@Skdo87 The hand that you're referring to happened at the end of a session in which I lost nearly every single hand. I'm sure many viewers are familiar with this feeling. Anyhow, I know the hand could have been played better, but the point of was to show how the "cards" are so perfectly matched to induce action and get players out of the game.
By the way, it's funny how some of you twats pick a certain hand to nit on and omit all the others.
bangkokist 10 months ago
@Skdo87 bro don't kid yourself.. do you really trust a computer program to shuffle your shit.. they cheat in so many ways online.. people are so gullible though, apparently everyone in the world is a saint and they couldn't possibly do that to them lol
051985bumblebee 2 months ago
it did happen to me too, lost a lot of hands that way .. but hey... what you want now?
lets all show how we all lost... please do try to remember that poker is a luck game, the online version anyway.
it's not like every every single time you hit KK QQ JJ AA or what ever you are gonna win. You have AA, that DOESN'T mean that you won the hand. Real poker is not about ALL IN .. and wait for the good cards. some of you dont know that.
spiderunp 10 months ago
Its actually Alderny Gaming Commission that governs Full Tilt I had sent numerous emails which the comish replied saying full tits is doing it right. I think the only solution here is to send them more emails and link it to plays like this and see what they have to say.
pokerjokkr 10 months ago
LOL BUSTED I KNEW THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY GET CAUGHT.
001MeTaBoLiC100 10 months ago
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NEWS PEOPLE!! FULL TILT POKER, POKERSTARS, AND ULTIMATE BET HAVE ALL BEEN SEIZED BY THE FBI!!!! IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME, TRY GOING TO THERE WEBSITES!! THIS IS THE PROOF THAT ITS RIGGED!!
BurningAlienSyndrome 10 months ago
RIGGED OBV, GLAD I SAW THIS VIDEO.
ImperviousMason 10 months ago
It makes you really wonder if Isildur1 was on to something shoving with his gut draws for 400k, maybe he noticed that full tilt is made for the underdog to suck out and capitalized on it.
FortyOzSwilla 10 months ago
+1.... i totally agreee.
first i went all in with KK, ofc someone got aces..... then i got KK again... hit aces again.... then i got aces -> lost to kings, aces-> lost to queens. and the biggest goal:
lost with AA against K4 ... cards on table: A4644
lost with AA against 37s .... ofc, the donkey got flush ;) no online poker for me anymore
terezka15 10 months ago
if you stop going all-in every time you get something pretty and actually study some poker theory you might understand that the game is rigged only for bad players. But I guess that if you already made up your mind about this it means that you are not having fun playing poker, and in this case I really recommend that you find a better hobby for yourself.
Geovani1642 11 months ago
It is a fact that aces hit the board about 3 times more on average than any other card on FT. Just track it with any tracker. Calculating that fact in your allins should help.
Newien 11 months ago
Its good to see that I'm not alone in this belief.I can see a bad beat happening but as much as it does on FT...If you are the low stack and you get dealt kk,just fold it cause it is a Ft suck out hand...The big stack seems to win with what ever they cal with.
rockcreek811 11 months ago
fulltilt is a huge scam. their goal is to make you lose that you spend at the checkout. They think we fooled with these algorithms shit. Only the idiots who believe it is not rigged. This is the room of the devil son of a bitch. pokerstars vigilance is worse!
dgbx007 11 months ago
Thanks for posting this. I used to play on FT and PS lots but got bad beats all the time. The problem is that the algorithm that generates hands "seems to be" biased. Bias means its still within the odds of random probability but that draws are slightly less likely than real play. Ever noticed there is almost never a split pot in FT and how often it actually does occur in real play? Don't waste your time and money on the site. I know it's tempting but find a local cash game and take the cash!!!
northernstudio 1 year ago
yeah online poker is a fucking scam: I'm done with this crap
thescammer88 1 year ago
You just seem to shove all in on every hand you showed in the video. The problem with doing this on a flush draw or a with hand like AK is you will only get called by a "made" hand, or a hand that has potential to crush your hand on the flop. Which means you are maybe 60/40 either way. Do the math, improve your post flop play. Try to not pot commit every time you have a good hand. Stop flipping coins and start playing poker.
F0Xpilot 1 year ago
@F0Xpilot 100% correct... Quit shoving all in and play the cards dealt... If you actually play high stakes you dont get these people that call with K8 or A4
MrRustyp 1 year ago
@F0Xpilot Maybe in a real game. But bankokist was beat by dogs more often than not. KK is clearly better than A anything and should have own at least 3 out of 5 times.
northernstudio 1 year ago
I don't really think that this shows Full Tilt is rigged, it just shows you had a streak of bad luck. For example the first hand AKoff vs. K8 suited, say the percentages are 80% to 20%(Im pretty much making these up), if you run it 100 times, 80 times AK holds up, but 20 times, K8 will hit an 8, or some hearts, its just how the cards fall.
tehutubezorz 1 year ago
100 percent rigged.
whitetrashbiotch 1 year ago
Why are their players on full tilt that win a big major and you never see them play another game? I know of 5 names that won big and hasn't played a single game afterwards which is odd.
whitetrashbiotch 1 year ago
Unfortunately, it would appear that ALL online poker sites are rigged/bent to some extent.
They put the brakes on good players and give poor players/novices outrageous hands cards.
Why? Well, if only the good/dilligent players won, the poor players would get fed up of donating and leave. One less player contributing rake.
It's in their interest to keep as many players interested for as long as possible.
All the 'independant' assessors are also in the pockets of these sites. Shame & very sad.
GuyMagicFingers 1 year ago
I am not sold that it is rigged to any ONE person. However, I have been beat big time in the last two days with bad beats shit........ What it appears is that the site encourages morons to go ALL in or CALL ALL in's with a shit hand only to give them the turn or river for the win. Happened to me today almost wiped out my entire bank roll..... thought about making a video of it ........ Just cannot believe the odds..... and I know odds but sure as shit this moron hit his straight ON THE RIVER !
bpd35 1 year ago
its rigged...no ifs and or buts about it...the cunts who play like shit are protected by the cunts who run the site...and the site is defended by other cunts who are either payed by the site or cant put 2 and 2 together
kenocartel 1 year ago
What would you rather do.. burn full tilt to the ground.. or take a double barrel shotgun to Howard Lederers legs... I know what I'd rather do..
DannyCorradi16 1 year ago
its called a bad beat. this same exact thing happens when you play live, i see it happen all the time. if the best hand won every time, poker wouldnt be very much fun.. i do feel bad for ya, some of those bad beats were pretty sick
ahyde2010 1 year ago
online sites are a joke, if you are new to the site you will get a ridiculous amount of good luck. I made 7-8 final tables in a row in tournies over 200 ppl, i finished 6th out of 1200 people for $1200 and at the time i was not a good player at all. I had basically just started playing poker.
I notice aswell in MTT's the shorter stack, even if its by 100 chips will get ridiculous bad beats as if the site is trying to get players out of the tournament as quickly as possible.. live poker ftw
gazzaUK1987 1 year ago
ahaha ur making some bad calls right there mate :)
Michielos23 1 year ago
I can't; believe it man,first day I made a deposit I won the first 2.25 SNG,I flopped quads of queens,I find it wery aquard like FT is feeding the new players.
Few days later I build my bankroll with over 50 D profit.
Next days...I lost with AA,KK ,I lost with QQ vs KJ,QQ vs A9.
Once I got KK and reraised somebody he called me ,I raised it so I won't have no Ace suprises,he called,another blank ,I reraised he went all in.I tough he had AQ ,but no this fucking site gave him set of queens!Fuck FT
serwwer 1 year ago
@PokerPlum until the past couple days I thought it was because I played so many more hands but now I think their cash games are tweaked for action to increase the rake and reward calling big bets. I ve given up on cash games online. I am sticking to sit and goes where there is no rake per pot and no reason to rig it towards one player or another (beyond favoritism to its pros but I dont play at that level).
WannaBeBalla1 1 year ago
@PokerPlum why is that when I bluff I win and when I have a made hand I get sucked out on every single fucking time.
WannaBeBalla1 1 year ago
Terrific!
Gabriello72 1 year ago
just go to a casino. Much better play, more fun and its just better. Plus online poker gets rid of the most important part, reading people. playing without that is just bogus.
lagundafire 1 year ago
I don't go near full tilt just because of 1 hand. Turbo $50K Guarantee rebuy, 7th out of 55 (1 away from paid places), at the table with a pro who is on the button with me on the big blind, he limps in with what turned out to 4 5 suited against my pocket aces, flop.... wait for it As Ad 6c, I just check he puts in a minimum bet and I re-raise. HE then moves all-in and obviously I call.........TURN 3c RIVER 7c GIVING HIM A STRAIGHT FLUSH! full tilt definately favours its pro's
mgday191 1 year ago
short stack never win, its not about cards its about your stack, 100% rigged !!!
vnc707 1 year ago
man you guys just suck you married to pocket pairs and ka highs just because you have those card does not meen your going to win with them everytime so dont be stupid and go all in pre flop because you think your going to win, and before you make a stupid bet observe the river and think of the hands your opponent could have idiots just because you hav a aa flop does not mean your going to win think before you play fool if its rigged why did I put 50 bucks in 6 months ago and now have ove 2K???
GODXSMOKESXHASH 1 year ago
@GODXSMOKESXHASH because I do NOT believe you made such a high profit . Are you sure you only depsited 50$. Besides I played on Pokerstars not FT. I just can't seem to win. Every time i'm in the money I lose against ubelievable odds. My hand KK the other 2 7. I raise preflop he calls. Nothing for me on the flop but only Q63 I go all in with an average stack but he was highstack. He calls turn 4 river a 5. He has a straight and kills my kings. I do not even know what the odds were practicly 0.
2Manolo3 1 year ago
@2Manolo3 he just got lucky Ive had bad beats before to and Ive also had lucky wins just yesterday I had a q10 of spades river was 9 of spades and k8 I went to check the box to call and a split sec before I hit the the call box the guy before me goes all in I think oh no because I didnt want to go all in I was just going to call a small bet but i clicked it and I went all in by mistake one guy has KK other guy had A9 guess what 2 cards fell 2 spades leaving me with a 17 doller pot
GODXSMOKESXHASH 1 year ago
@GODXSMOKESXHASH it's always like that for me I always get beaten on the river by runners. Not because I play bad poker. If you say it's not rigged I dare you to withdraw all your money exept 50$. I bet you WILL get an amazing bad luck streak. But they will say hey that's poker. And they are right. Still those patterns are not normal.
read this site. h.t.t..p ://tommeny.com/2006/12/22/the-bible-of-rigged-online-poker-2/
2Manolo3 1 year ago
@2Manolo3 dont go all in on a pair of kings when the river gives you nothing. play it safe you may lose out on some hands but if you take minimal risks you will have minimal loses I mean yes everybody takes risks sometimes just dont be stupid. I lose sometimes to u cant always win when you think you have the better hand Ive had K high straights that i went all in on with 30 doller only to see the other guy had a ace high poker is poker there will be bad beats and lucky wins its not rigged lol
GODXSMOKESXHASH 1 year ago
@GODXSMOKESXHASH normally I wouldn't go all in but it was higher up in the game with high blinds I had to make my move sooner or later or let the blinds bleed me to death. I thought that it was a sure deal. I knew he was donking his way up with crappy hands. Seems he got lucky again.
2Manolo3 1 year ago
@2Manolo3 that site trys to prove a good point but really there is no proof in this its just peoples thoughts and ideas when you have some real hard evidence let me know then I will withdraw my cash and stop playing
GODXSMOKESXHASH 1 year ago
So if this site is rigged why cant the Full Tilt creators be taken to court. People should keep their hand history on file or log it and then report this. I am sure over thousands of people have evidence to back up a case against this site.
001MeTaBoLiC100 1 year ago
@001MeTaBoLiC100 They are protected by shady, offshore island laws
bangkokist 1 year ago
@bangkokist I play real money at pokerstars,com
But I have a friend who plays full tilt and he consistently gets checks in the mail from full tilt...he plays about 6 or 7 tables at one time...and folds most of the time.
EdwardRommel 1 year ago
@001MeTaBoLiC100 Yeah well..explain to me why the only big pots I lose are donks who have gone all in and hit the 1 card they need on the river to suck out. I played the best poker of my life tonight and I got taken down by bullshit on the river...I had AK vs AQ and the fucker hit three queens on the turn and river after an ace and a king hit the flop and that was just 1 occurrence out of 5. I'm joining stars.
WannaBeBalla1 1 year ago
@WannaBeBalla1 That's what im trying to say I have donks calling me chasing the river card all the time. When the river card hits I know they have won the pot, even though I was heavily favored to win the pot before the river. I wouldnt join pokerstars I hear it is the same if not worse than Full Tilt. I play on PKR and Full Tilt and noticed the same patterns, i'm sure they all use similar software for online poker. I still play real money but am very careful when I play.
001MeTaBoLiC100 1 year ago
@001MeTaBoLiC100
LOL
whitetrashbiotch 10 months ago
@001MeTaBoLiC100
HAHA! They're going to be today! It's hilarious to read the comments of people here and on the fulltiltpoker forums. So in denial.
xThucydides 5 months ago
Online poker is indeed rigged. I will never ever ever deposit any money again. Only freerolls from now on or live games.
2Manolo3 1 year ago
@2Manolo3 F-I-S-H dude I put 50 bucks in there 6 months ago now I have over 2K ^^^^^ learn how to play fish
GODXSMOKESXHASH 1 year ago
@GODXSMOKESXHASH Rules to be a newbie! I remember those days. Enjoy while you can. it wont last long.
rimmyou69 1 year ago
@rimmyou69 a noob? I have been a member of full tilt poker for about a year now and have made a nice profit off it. I have been playing poker for over 10 years and i am not a noob. And just so you know ftp has no reason to rig there site why would they. ftp takes a small amount of cash out of each pot weather you win or lose. EX if you go all in and somebody calls you it doesnt matter to ftp who wins and who loses they still take the same amount of cash from the pot. Fish think its rigged
GODXSMOKESXHASH 1 year ago
@GODXSMOKESXHASH
yes, only been there a year, that is a newbie. just wait for a while, you WILL see its rigged, believe me. Only way you wont is if your are a dreamer or blind.
rimmyou69 1 year ago
@rimmyou69 w w w.fuzionpoker. c o m/online-poker/3-counter-arguments-online-poker-rigged/
GODXSMOKESXHASH 1 year ago
@GODXSMOKESXHASH The same ol rigged vs. non-rigged which will never end.
Its rigged , believe it!!
rimmyou69 1 year ago
@GODXSMOKESXHASH to get me to deposit more money...Ive played the best poker of my life the past two days...I took down countless small pots but it was the made hands that left me almost broke. I have been 1 outed on the river or had runner runner bullshit so many times its fucking ridiculous.
WannaBeBalla1 1 year ago
I saw the PATTERN long ago , short stack w/ best hand all in will lose 90 % of time to speed up tourney and get you to sign up for another other words the FASTER these games go , THE MORE FUCKING MONEY THE MAKE , PERIOD .
ITS RIGGED !
bLOG - FULL TILT POKER IS NOT RANDOM , READ WHAT EX PROGRAMMER SAYS
A. - GIVES Details how program changes after BREAK , short stacks given big hand to go all in in tourney just to be raped by rigged flop .
C. They use House players that change names frequently
franz909 1 year ago
its a scam and we all fell for it, I hope i see howard one day cause im going to shake his ass down for a refund
gm2373 1 year ago
Personally I don't think that any poker site is rigged because that would be illegal on the their part, which would land them in ALOT of trouble if they were legitimately cheating. And I don't believe there is an effective client based way of cheating either!
I generally think that people just use "cheating" as an excuse because they either get sucked out on or they think they are better players than they actually are.
Play live instead if you're still convinced online is rigged?
Dogbuggery 1 year ago
@Dogbuggery Are u out of your fucking mind , do some reading . UB POKER & ABSOLUTE , BOTH were caught cheating by employees who were reading hole cards and had to pay back hundreds of thousands of dollars and that just 2 big sites and there are others .
"Trouble" by who , its not regulated and the guy caught cheating at ABSOLUTE , WASN'T even prosecuting , READ . He walked away with millions . READ - GOOGLE story . Geesuz you're ignorant .
franz909 1 year ago
@franz909 Mate how long ago did that happen to UB? (Plus a staff member created a back door user account for someone) and I've never heard of Absolute! So that proves how popular that site is! I'm not ignorant it's just you're just a fucking idiot. There have been two cases of super users and you're agreeing that the number of videos "exposing" cheats are valid?
Sadly i don't have enough space to expose your arguement as complete bollocks so,
GL Franz909 see you on tilt!
Dogbuggery 1 year ago
i like to read peopls theorys on how the hand was played wrong, fact is it doesntmatter, you could call, min raise, go all inn, if they want it to happen t will., its not poker
Chroniclogical420 1 year ago
@Chroniclogical420 to add to that u go all in with aa, and he folds, it just meens next time you see a huge hand and your winning, they will fuck you anyways IT DOESNT MATTER PROS DONT PLAY ONLINE POKER, THEY EXCEPT THE FREE BUY INS TO PUBLICALLY SAY THEY ARE ASSOCIATED.
Chroniclogical420 1 year ago
online poker is pre determind winners the min the hand is delt. YOU CVAN WIN only it has to be that 1 or 2 hours of that month you playq and are allowed good hands to win, play anymore you loose. I dont know 1 person including myself who has won more then a grand in 1 night ( verry possible) but played the next day and won aswell, it just does not happen, if u expect to make something online you need to go huge for 1 day ad 1 day only cash out and never come back
Chroniclogical420 1 year ago
@Chroniclogical420 I only wish i could take my own advice
Chroniclogical420 1 year ago
i love how they dont only rape the better hand but they kick you in the ass, like the q-7 not onlly flopps 3 7s to your aa, but tops it off niceley with a queen. if it makes u feel better ibelieve all they are doing its letting that guy feel special for the time being, untill the enebadable happens and hes screwed to the next rook, now in the constant loop of depositing, getting great hands, adding to the pot addink to the rake the site ollects, just to loose and restart all over again
Chroniclogical420 1 year ago
So what is a site that is not rigged and you can play for real money
MuzikIsLifeYaDigg 1 year ago
Never min raise aces... they will always lose that way!! has anybody else seen this?!
BS
DannyCorradi16 1 year ago
Its a program rigged for the big stacks to move the tournament along quicker so the site can make more dollars per hour. Notice all the beats u took u were the short stack.The site favors the big stacks to end the tournaments faster
TheFkstick 1 year ago
@TheFkstick True that, always as short stack im losing of FT : TT vs Q3 - queen comes. AK vs A6 trip sixes comes... ALWAYS with better hand as short stack u lose. Always after bad beat, when u are left with lets say 40 chips u can shove them and ALWAYS u will win... 400 chips or something, dont even metter. But the soft works in this scheme. All pokersites are rigged as hell, card generator is flawed as hell.
Rastamanjungle 1 year ago
This site is ridiculous why cant they ban full tilt or any other site most of them are obviously rigged. I might as well throw math out the window and just hope to get lucky oh wait a sec. there is no such thing as luck here.
001MeTaBoLiC100 1 year ago
whenever i'm holding KK or AA... I can only pray they hold up. Usually some clown will push holding a 10 4 off or something.. only for the flop to come out 7 10 4. The bad beats are INCESSANT. If you're short stacked.. forget it. Big stacks ALWAYS win flips in tourneys.. regardless of the holding. Full tilt is RIGGED without a doubt.
jposco 1 year ago
I like how people try to explain how 'Poker Isn't Rigged', who are you trying to convince yourself lol?, any and most intelligent logical poker players, are very good at math and poker in general, you see the same patterns over and over, you almost 'Know' whats gonna come when you see your hand all in pre flop, post flop vs a 9 to 1 underdog, you lose the 'Majority' of the time, everyone knows this. I dont need to convince anyone, I convinced myself from experience. Simple as quitting for good.
lnevitable2011 1 year ago 9
the hand at 1:23 isnt that rediculous
dontfreakdude 1 year ago
@dontfreakdude oh you're right...people who flop straights always lose to river flushes!!!
tobythedog1020 1 year ago
@dontfreakdude oh you're right...flopped straights lose to river flushes all the time!
tobythedog1020 1 year ago
the reason this happens friend is..the random gen. is contantly shuffling cards..so it means the deck is being constantly stack against ya.ur oppents gets and edge by his cards always being shuffled to the top..and when a card is called it pulls whatever one is on top..live games the deck is left where it is after cut..but no FT it gives an edge for pairs to be cracked HU..i get alot of slack explaining this to ppl but they dont believ..i would even take away my outs with AA KK to leave deck
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iWasGrovemasterITA 1 year ago
ok i think full tilt is rigged to and howard ledderer is a cock sucker but your handicapped you playing tournements while your making a video about the site been rigged are you mentely challagened if so lets play
MrPokpoker 1 year ago
@MrPokpoker I haven't played on FT in a long time. Also, I want you to reread what you typed.
I think we both know who the mongoloid is here.
bangkokist 1 year ago
Fact! These sites run with total immunity from prosecution from any country where there players are from. If that does not ring any alarms then nothing well. If you had that kind of security would fairness and integrity be your top priority? You well find no truth from poker pros on them because they love what its done for the game. They make more money wearing a online poker site shirt then they do playing anyways. How can you blame them. In this day and age everybody is working a angle
abcdefghijkl6320 1 year ago
Fact! These sites run with total immunity from prosecution from any country where there players are from. If that does not ring any alarms then nothing well. If you had that kind of security would fairness and integrity be your top priority? You well find no truth from poker pros on them because they love what its done for the game. They make more money wearing a online poker site shirt then they do playing anyways. How can you blame them. In this day and age everybody is working a angle period
abcdefghijkl6320 1 year ago
Those bad beats*
Izaak247 1 year ago
Get over itself those Are inevitable considering how much u play on poker
Izaak247 1 year ago
@Izaak247 "Get over yourself" is a statement commonly used by fat dumb cunts.
Piss off, fatty!
bangkokist 1 year ago
@Izaak247 I just had it happen to me 5 times in a single fucking night. same shit last night. I dont mind losing within reason ppl suck out thats poker...but getting one outed on the river or runner runner bullshit time and time agin is just fucking suspicious. They are hoping to get another deposit out of me but it aint gonna fuckin happen. I checked my all-in percentages with premium hands and they arent anywhere near average and Ive played a megashitton of hands.
WannaBeBalla1 1 year ago
I 100% agree that the poker sites are rigged. FUCK online poker.
Also, just a tip, I wouldn't make my videos while still playing on the site though (2:42)
vegasnutzz 1 year ago
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im not sure what rigged means in this case but im certain that the hands are numbered...which means that each hand has a played out winner and that means has more than one hand delt out that will look like the winner in the end.... to make the tournys move faster and get to the end cause once the tourny is filled and play begins... they get there money... and now ur just using there time...how do u think the daily dollar goes for only 8 hrs with 8k people... the main event goes 7 days... ...
irockpoker 1 year ago
im not sure what rigged means in this case but im certain that the hands are numbered...which means that each hand has a played out winner and that means has more than one hand delt out that will look like the winner in the end.... to make the tournys move faster and get to the end cause once the tourny is filled and play begins... they get there money... and now ur just using there time...how do u think the daily dollar goes for only 8 hrs with 8k people... the main event goes 7 days...
irockpoker 1 year ago
biggest online scam, has been for years. The RNG excuse is lame. Software can be manipulated. And when there's millions involved, the best programmers are working where the big $ are. Def not rocket science. The sad part is.... that players who are ITM... will defend the site to no end, but then again we're only human. I wish I had enough smarts to buy stock when OLP first came on board...lol
scaper37 1 year ago
@scaper37 , howard lederer and the whole full tilt team should be lined up and shot execution style. To harsh you say, well stealing millions of dollars from u.s. customers while sitting around a table and playing high stakes with our money and laughing all the while, I think not!!. If someone in the U.S. tried to pull this scam off they would be put in prison for life. For some reason these fuckers have been running this scam for years and no one is doing a damn thing.
beezleboe 1 year ago
It's called... "Shit Happens" Get over it.
xXiTzLeGiTXx 1 year ago
@xXiTzLeGiTXx , not exactly, it's called "scams happen" get involved. after all it's your money they're stealing. You ever wonder where these pros are getting all this money they're playing high stakes with, lol. Look in your wallet that's where. It's a mega scam, scaper37 is right on.
beezleboe 1 year ago
Why would anyone who is a successful online poker player be wasting their time watching youtube and commenting to defend a poker site where they are just a player. It doesnt make sense unless they are just a propaganda mouth piece with a vested interest in hiding the truth. Why are you fckin idiots on here anyway if you don't have a problem with your online poker site, to defend a corporation that has no idea who you are??? Think about it, it's deep. To find corruption follow the money.
DahVidKid 1 year ago
Was playing against some guy from Germany or some shit. Asked him how the weather was. He said it was nice. I told him google weather said it was raining. He said, "Oh". I took screenshotz of a tournament where I sat out for awhile. When I came back one guy was going all in everytime for 40-50 hands and everybody else was folding. When i woke up my character and called his all in the guy shit his pants. This shit is rigged. No, if's ands or buts. The stories are endless.
DahVidKid 1 year ago
I agree fuck all these pro's watchin the little man get scammed. Stop watchin, stop playin online, inform everybody. Start your own poker games in your town. Hit these bastards in their pockets. Start a website. Make a vow to never play on any of these shitty sites again. Help the people you know save their money. Talk about this shit so much that everyone in the world takes for granted this shit is rigged. Their Karma will return. They are probably a money laundry for some govt agency.
DahVidKid 1 year ago
These sites have all been busted before (superusers) no one went to jail. The headquarters are offshore and can't be monitored, prosecuted or extradited. If we can launch and send a guided nuclear missile 100's of miles an hour by satellite to precise locations, then the owners, creators and controllers of this online poker hardware can manipulate it. How many Belarus, Ukraine and other users are there? Really? Copy and Paste this everywhere. Lets shut these bastards down! Fyt bak, now!!
DahVidKid 1 year ago
You claim it's rigged, yet you're still playing two other tables at the same time whilst showing us hand histories lmao? Also i see you got Aces on the other table a couple of times and went all in and won. GET OVER YOURSELF
08avfclion09 1 year ago
ladbrokes is fucking disgraceful aswell these online con merchant bastards should be stripped of every fucking penny, flogged in the street then banged up with berni maydorf the bastards
smashedup100 1 year ago
@smashedup100 ...and then some
DahVidKid 1 year ago
your gonna lose roughly 1 in 3 times to someone who holds a flush draw so its not like your even getting sucked out on that bad... also like every other "bad beat" you lost to had you dominated in chips, a huge factor in tournament or sng play.
TongueKissinGators 1 year ago
Stay away from the thieves fulltiltpoker. WARNING !!! U will lose in the long run ... guranteed.
ekorrefreddan 1 year ago
online gambling, ya thats something i really trust, i would rather go to the casino
Crazyman1212 1 year ago
of course its a well organized lucrative criminal racket. Im pretty sure maltliq is working with the company in some capacity, he goes around posting how stupid people are when they show proof of how rigged the site is. Lets just think about human nature, lol. The money is compounded up the stake levels and then is picked up by many of the full tilt bots.
thedrifter860 1 year ago
@thedrifter860 lucrative criminal racket for sure; I wonder why the gov't doesn't touch it. They must be part of it
DahVidKid 1 year ago
bangkokist, what's your screenname ? it's so small can't read it.
sifffh 1 year ago
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deserteagly7 1 year ago
4.19 JJ are my worst enemy. Every time I fold and somehow it always ends up being a good fold. I never win so never play JJ.
TheEntertainer1995 1 year ago
FTP is a shit!!
HyDl2ALiSk 1 year ago
lol too funny... i live in california and play live poker also for a living..u really dont know how stupid ur comment is.. but i can understand ur stupidity..only 10% of poker players actually make money and apparently you are not part of that group and u never will be..but as long as fulltilt is full of idiots like you im happy
maltliq 1 year ago
5.. you make excuses for everything you dont succeed at in life so its easier to blame something you really know nothing about
6..you get a rush out of action and self-consciously and dont realize it..(u action junky)
7..you play alot of tournaments and apply the same the strategy to cash games.. (bye the way.. love u guys!!!)
8..you read phil hellmuths book
9..your tight passive..yes you are admit it
10..you just suck at what ever you do
I use to suck like you. but i make money off the old me
maltliq 1 year ago
@maltliq , lol, you must be one of the stupid naive fucking idiots I was talking about earlier. If you think online poker is real poker you have shit for brains. I've played real poker for years and I can tell you that online poker is pure bullshit as anyone with half a brain can. You are not making any money playing online I know it and you know it. Sure you can pretend that you are, but even you know you're getting fucked everytime you choose to play money online.
beezleboe 1 year ago
@beezleboe ol too funny... i live in california and play live poker also for a living..u really dont know how stupid ur comment is.. but i can understand ur stupidity..only 10% of poker players actually make money and apparently you are not part of that group and u never will be..but as long as fulltilt is full of idiots like you im happy
maltliq 1 year ago
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beezleboe 1 year ago
@beezleboe
give me your screenname, say, GIVE ME YOUR CASH.
sifffh 1 year ago
@sifffh Shut up donkey.
db10001110101 1 year ago
@db10001110101
when did i tell you that your play there was bad? or pushing with 9 4 is good?
all i told ya is that you can lose, even with the better starting hand...it's called variance. instead of thinking about that you feel insulted by my comment, misread it and call me a donkey for sth i didn't say at all. you're the donkey that is not able to distinguish between rigged games and coolers.
man, it happens to all of us. there's just some guys like you that can't handle it
sifffh 1 year ago
@sifffh I know I can lose with he better hand but you made it sound like I was an idiot for lsing or for getting mad at a moron for going allin with 9 off suit. I know I can loose with the best hand but that wasnt the point. I have lost too many times with the best hand on full tilt. I flopped a boat once I had K Q and the flop was K of clubs Q of hearts and K of diamons and this guy ahead of me gos all in. I call he has A 10 clubs. The turn comes Q of clubs then the river was a jack of clubs
db10001110101 1 year ago
@db10001110101
was not my intention to make you look stupid. you didn't play bad there, again.
but: don't get fooled by such tough coolers. it happens to everyone. i'm just through 2 weeks of playing where i lost 16 buy-ins (!) just by moving in with kk preflop...and being up against aces for 16 fucking times. in 2 weeks. how cool is that?
if you analyse big portions of stats however, you will see that things equal out... variance is the keyword - math's law of big numbers at his best.
sifffh 1 year ago
@sifffh , I'm really trying to figure you out, i've come to a conclusion. You are dillusional or retarded, I'm guessing you might be both. Read your own statement, you lost 16 buyins, K's vs A's 16 times in 2 weeks. You are so dillusional you don't even realize when you're getting fucked. It's not called variance, it's called rigged to hell and back and for some reason everyone is getting it but you. So, how many times do you have to get screwed before you realize you've been fucked, lol
beezleboe 1 year ago
@beezleboe actually there are listings you and vengeance can look up, shows the biggest cash game wins / losses for the day, week etc
Grinders track our hands, i can play upwards of 5000 hands in a single day, every single hand i play is logged and collated into lists. i have 10's of thousands of scenarios with A's, and the % difference between my instances of dif pkt pairs is down to .1% basicaly. Also he has no idea how to play omaha either, 2 pair on the river is like A high in hold em
imluvinyourmum 1 year ago
@sifffh Then they guy who sucked out soent 10 minutes telling me that I was an idiot for calling with a boat when he had shit on the flop.
db10001110101 1 year ago
@maltliq , I just love these fucking liars who say they're making a living off of online poker, lmao. Bank roll managment,hahahhahahhaha. Exactly how do you build a bankroll on a rigged site that fucks you every other hand. I would love to play you anyday maltiq, you're just another shit talking liar who has never won a dime and think people will believe that you make a living playing online. I have news for you NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Go back to your rigged poker room and lose some more, ha
beezleboe 1 year ago
@maltliq How does Lederer's cock taste?
bangkokist 1 year ago 12
@bangkokist they are cheating u asshole!
lugggnuttt 1 year ago
@bangkokist what is fulltilt homos paying u? $1 per reply? Loser!
ekorrefreddan 1 year ago
@maltliq the guy was ahead every single time he put his money i.. what else can he do? its rigged.. the world was built on greed and corruption and online poker would not be an exception.. even if they make 100 billion a year they ll want more.. its human nature... GREED..
boogeymman 1 year ago
its not rigged you people just suck.. im a winning poker player on fulltilt regularly.. i make a living off people like you.. 10 reasons why your losing.. if u answer yes to two then thx for your support :)
1..you commit yourself with big pocket pairs --thx :)
2..you play your cards and not the person
3..poker is still gambling its not guaranteed.. but there are ways to go about online poker to make guaranteed money and you dont know what it is...
4.you have no clue about bank roll managment
maltliq 1 year ago
It is bullshit. I just got knocked out of a game when I wnt all in with A K suited and got called by 9 4 suited and he won. What the fuck. Yesterday I had a full house and this asshole goes allin on a draw and gets magic runner runner and gets a royal flush. Its bullshit and I'm getting sick of it.
db10001110101 1 year ago
@db10001110101
if you can't handle variance, you can't handle the game....quit.
I mean, let's take your first example : do you really expect to win with AK against 9 4 everytime? there's two ways to go about it: tell yourself you did nothing wrong and that you'll win quiet some money in that spot in the long run - or whine like a sissie cuz you were not the chosen one to win with AK everytime.
all you whiners are epic fails in terms of character. please send me screennames of ftp, pp, and ps.
sifffh 1 year ago
@sifffh Are you retarded. What the fuck would he be thinkin with 9 4? I play live asshole and I am not a joke like you are. Having the best hand and losing is not an epic fail you retard. He sucked out and you think he made a good play? You are a joke and need to shut your retarded mouth.You are a bitch and a little punk. You think ur a player but you are just as retarded as all the other retards who think by going in with 7 2 and sucking out that they made a good play. What a joke.
db10001110101 1 year ago
@sifffh How many hours have you sat at a casino and played live? I regularly do 30 hour sessions at live casinos retard. Internet players fail at live games. You know why? Cause they think its gona be like full tilt and they play like retards and lose their money. When an internet player shows up and goes all in everyhand like a retard internet donkey me and other regulars just get up and move and whn that retard donkey trys to get another table they wont let them play.
db10001110101 1 year ago