you are awesome Ritwika i ran into ur video n now i m watching others :) u seem very talented keep doing ur videos they r awesome. only brown girl with some really good video..
I found this tutorial helpful because you were succinct, stayed on topic and went into depth - even including the explanation of the attenuator cable construction. Thank you for sharing!
I like your tutorial and I have been trying to carry out the same thing (passive Attenuator) but one component (200K Lin Trim Potentioment) looks like impossible to get. From 10k, 100k, 250k & 500k are all I can get. the question is, can I use 2 of 100k or 1 of 250K or higher lin trim pot
If you are going to sync the audio from both video and field recorder, why bother adding the attenuator and aux out when you can use 5D2's inbuilt mic and record the same thing except of not so good quality, then sync in post using the field recorder??
I dont see the need to really input audio back into the digital camera. Just set the cameras mic as loud as you can. Even if you are still going to input audio from external recorder, instead of all that extra circuits, just lower the output level from the external audio recorder. Should be a software setting inside recorder. It just seems like a complicated setup, when both audio setting could just be adjusted instead.
I thought she explained the whole process very well. I would re-do the video. Try a clear white background to make the components for the transfer cable stand out better. I also found the lighting and background to dull. However, I learned something very interesting from this clip and that what the end result is all about. Keep up the good work.
i was going to say, u gonna get noise out of that setup then I saw u are shielding it... good call otherwise it would have rendered the better recorder useless.
reading the responses, I wonder if people are paying attention
if you want to sync your video to the audio, it's good to have good audio on your camera to sync to. if you don't plug the audio recorder into the camera, you get far inferior audio signal to sync with. when you're editing, you can't see the same spikes and valleys that you'd see in quality audio. yes, the camera audio will be of lower quality than the audio recorder. but it will be far superior to the on cam mic audio.
Everything you said is true, but this rig is way to complicated to use, if you are doing serious work you should have second person dealing with sound, on-board audio recorder mic IS NOT GOOD in any recorder, you need a good external mic!!!
I am new to DSLR cameras but I recently bough a Canon 7D. What is the difference between the Sony PCM-D50 and the Zoom H4n? I am looking for a good mic but not sure what to get. Can you help?
By the way, don't assume the EOS5D is poor compared to other sound recorders. We've tested Zoom, and Tascam 2-channel recorders with poor results. Forget the '24-bit' and 96kHz hype - it's irrelevant. Limiting factor is noise level. The 5D has noise at -51dB wtd 468 relative to alignment level. The Zoom is -50dB. True 16-bit acheives -66dB, true 24-bit -80dB (same measurement standard). Best portable recorder is the Tascam 6-channel DR-680 (-70dB), just a bit better than true 16-bit.
Good work in realising that you need an attenuator and building one! I have measured the EOS5D (and GH2 etc) and you can see the results at the Lindos Electronics site (click on the test sheet database tab). Lindos now sell an attenuator (from pro-line levels) which incorporates compensation for the bass rolloff , as well as the Minisonic Mic kit with preamp. See demo videos at the Lindos Electronics channel.
you seem to know your stuff and I see that you have a few tutorials as well. I've seen many tutorials on using separate devices to record audio but none of them explain their workflow regarding how to keep track of all of that audio so that it's easier to find and sync audio to video once you get to post. Especially on a longer and more complex shoot when you have several clips of audio on your recorder. Can you offer any tips on this? Perhaps a tutorial?
congrats - A lot of valid info, a lot of good advise but the sound quality, is not on par... simply the object of this video is about sound, and should have a decent sound but several aspects were not taken in consideration - basic aspects like microphone input reg., volume equalization, and others like distortion, reverberation etc.
Please continue with this work, is very interesting and useful.
That's a VERY informative video and helps in so many ways when it comes to really GREAT audio over average sound . thanks for the post. I'm sure this will make a huge difference in the out come of my concert videos as well as music video post production. Thanks you so VERY much !
I didn't see this asked in the comments; I'm curious what hot shoe to 1/4"-20 ball head adapter you're using? This also looks like a solid connection (not a shock mounted one) do you notice handling noise when it's mounted like this, or are you mostly only using this setup when the camera is on a tripod?
@deadbirdsings 96khz are not for recording dogs whistles... 96 khz is the frequency who determinate the sound definition. The sound wave have an wave form structure, and it seems like square when you close up, and this square effect deseapear when the frequency rate increase. You will have a soud more "true" than a lower frequency.
@CocktaiLMolotovX - I think you're getting sampling rate mixed up with bit depth. There may be some obscure technical reasons why 96 kHz might be better than 44.1 kHz from an engineering standpoint, but AFAIC, 44.1 kHz sounds fine and all you're doing by recording at 96 kHz is wasting storage space on frequencies only a tiny minority of humans can hear (and whether there's anything past 20 kHz that's even worth hearing is another question).
@deadbirdsings .goal of all this technics are not to recover high frequency, it's just for to reproduce what Nagra with magnetic tape was able to do easily. A hold magnetic recorder tape works on analogic wave, the wave game is " infinit". Not for numeric recorder: they need to have the highest bitrate (with khz and more, with BIT) for to have similar result like a magnetic tape.
@deadbirdsings I forgot to explain to you something: Very high bitrate (192khz24bit) help you to work sound again, and again on post production, with minimized loss of quality, each time you need to repared the sound track, or equalizing, etc.
@CocktaiLMolotovX It's not necessary tp work in 192k. 44k/24bit is reasonable enough, we use it in the studio also. 192k would give you better sound when pitch shifting downwards, but other than that people don't differ the rates in the final product. It can actually get annoying to concentrate on all the fine details in the mix, if you think about the fact the end product is consumed in mp3 through desktop speakers by the majority :)
1 Suggestion in between the class the music at adobe premiere the volume was so high because of which It was a lil managable ther to listen to what you say so next time try to make it a lil low or try some mild music. Thankyou for enlightening us with the class.
you ungrateful punks...this is wonderful info being given for nada. Boring?? it's supposed to be informative not titillating....so get a life. Thanks Rennaisance Now! You are doing a wonderful job!
@EuropejskaUnia DSLR cameras are very good for taking pictures and recording video, but you dont get a very high quality sound. You have to remember 50% of your video is sound and if you dont have good sound you dont have a good video. Professionals that record video with DSLR always have this Dual-System Sound. Some have pro camcorders and still use this Dual-System Sound. Its always good to have the highest sound quality as you can get.
@kk6downing hey. I have 5Dmk2 since 2 years and 2 microphones. one analogue and one active digital cheap Philips mic. I'm about to get Zoom or Tascam portable recorder for now and in the future H4N.
My question was why to plug the external recorder in to the Mic Input of the camera?
@EuropejskaUnia Your camera's audio is there for reference so when you get to editing you can sync your external audio with the camera's audio by looking at the wave form of both audio so you can see and align the them easily
In other words plugging your external audio device into your camera is so you can set the decibel (dB) levels the same.
Really interesting. Glad people still remember what Radio Shack is supposed to be there for. Now if someone could convince them to stop trying to be a mini Best Buy.
Cudos to the young lady for basic electronic knowledge.
Not bad, but why not mount your passive attenuator in a hobby box while you are at it? Would look much more pro, and make it last longer. Solder joints don't like to be flexed.
You're awesome!! You're like the MacGyver of film making. Don't listen to the haters. Their anger and jealousy is their problem, not yours. Keep doing your thang!!
Hi, i have a canon 7d with a firmware ver 1.2.5. I can't find the manual sound recording, i think that canon erased this function with new firmware but i'm not sure. do you know how to fix it?
Very nice and educational video. Thank you very much. BTW, don't worry about one jerk who is (obviously) jealous, and only a minor distraction. He's like a useless fly that is out there pissing people people off with its buzzing, until somebody takes him out with a peace of rolled magazine, or newspaper.
You think it is a time for a new video that sounds like this: Bzzzzzzzzz....Bzzzzzz.... CLAP! ... ........[sound of toilet flush]
@SoundByteUK dude, 192khz is way more noticeable than 96khz, and 44.1 or 48 or whatever you want, youre talking about bit depth. the human ear cant distinguish between 32 bit and 64 bit depth rates, so regardless of the bit depth, its mainly the sample rates that affect the overall quality.... go do your research.
She's cute, smart, solders, sings, records, and videos ...what's not to like? ;-)
Very nice presentation, and good information. First class job, young lady. You might want to think about building up a binaural head, since you seem to be technically oriented, and if you have the time and interest. If you haven't already heard binaural recordings (you probably have), have a listen to some here on youtube. They're amazing and a very cool next step.
Well, equipment videos are all well and good but do you actually film real stuff? You know, put all that gear to an artistic, visceral use? Or is this just gear fixation?
I really don't get why people call this the ultimate sound recording ..
You need a few things, a audio recorder, a boompole, a good quality microphone, and most important... AN OPERATOR. As a cameraman you don't want to be busy checking a sound recorder...
And what does a young girl do with a 5d.... buy a 600d or something
very smart and well done; however, audio is completely separate from video and should be recorded separately and synced up in post. Good mic, and mixer would be best i'm guessing
@aarontsu honestly, I'm telling you, you will not hear the difference - the human hearing spectrum stretches to around 20khz, while there are harmonic cycles which stretch up to infinity so long as you have 44.1khz of space for the first primary harmonic resonations it's almost impossible to hear the difference. Try a double blind test, I would bet every dollar I have you would not be able to hear the difference without the subjective expectation bias of knowing which is which
@officialphatchance yup .. you is correct ... except some of us can hear at 49.4khz ... don't ask... for some reason I can hear the difference when I went for my degree in audio engineering.... 34 failed only 1 passed the test above the so called frequencies people cannot hear... must be a mutation or something lol... but yeah you are bang on the only time you will know the difference is the high freq shift with shit ADDA converters ... ala portable units (they all suck compared to soundscape)
Excelent explanation!. I can see many young ladies like you with no understanding of nothing, while you give explanations of a difficult matter in a very professional way. I admire it. thanks.
@supportren actually you're totally wrong about this, try a double blind test with a 41khz and 96khz file and you will not be able to hear the difference, I guarantee it, the 'staircasing' you're talking about is redundant, particularly as you're going to down convert to 44.1khz for CD quality anyway.
Wow. This was the most unnecessary video I think I've seen. Do you really think someone out there is going to follow your step by step instructions? Like really, you asking people to solder shit...
@JWhitePhotography Good call. What a waste of time. The "ultimate sound recording" setup would be to stop being a cheapo and just buy the real gear from a shop.
Bit depth really comes into play when trying to gain head room and can seriously help stop clipping. Also should you use post effects like reverbs these can really benefit from a higher Bit Depth, good reverbs sound more natural and deeper.
@nordfjellBrandt She knows how to make an attenuator. That was pretty impressive. I would have just bought one, but she seems to really understand it's construction. Seems like "real" knowledge, wouldn't you say?
build an attenuation? How about just buy a H4N and turn the out put down? H4 alows 4 track recording so you can also use the on board H4 mics as ambiance a shothun and a lapel at the same time.
The only reason so many people are giving you guff for this video, is the fact they just can't stand how much smarter you are than they are about audio, wiring, electronics, etc. By they time you are as old as most of these haters, your achievements will be higher than anything they ever do. Rock on!
Right on. I am a degreed electrical engineer, with a long time interest in audio. Her presentation and info were spot on, and anyone who would pick on a kid her age operating at her obviously quite elevated level needs a serious course in anger management, and maybe to gain some self confidence as well.
ahahah her dad has an electrical engineering degree ;)
also, if you have one degree to, you should know that sampling a wave at a frequency that is the double of the max freq. in that wave, by signal processing theory means you can get the original wave in perfect condition. Conclusion you can avoid all the trouble in the video and attach a quality microphone to the 48kHz micro-in sampler in the canon 5d mark II.
In the picking-the-kid issue, you are completely right.
@trippiano Not quite... it's fine she's using a consumer grade recorder that doesn't even have XLR input (which is what the 5D really lacks. Then there's the thing that even if I was doing a test i would take the time to treat the environment I was recording in.... semi-good Sony recorder and badly treated room = crap example.
What does it matter that you know how to connect the two and turn them on, if you screw up the acoustics?
@flicebaby Whats up with XLR and phono socket? Do you really understand what you are talking about? Do you think XLR provides better audio fidelity over phono?
Wow, I've been a director / cinematographer for 13 years and I've shot over 6 full length features, I must say I've never come across a young lady as smart, quick and technical as you. I'm impressed...you will go places, I hope your parents are proud of you cuz I am (LoL) Best wishes
@SoundByteUK So you think higher sampling rate only helps to capture higher freq. right? A common mistake many people make, so don't worry. When you sample a 20KHz freq. sine wave with 44 K sample, you will get a very ragged two step staircase to represent a nice smooth sine wave. It is like enlarging a small thumbnail into a poster size pixilated print. If you sample it in 96K, you will get more fine grain stairs which will be much more HiFi and you can easily hear the difference.
@SoundByteUK Your understanding about sampling rate is incomplete and I just filled the void. Pointing incorrect understanding is not called patronizing. I am here talking about professional setup and not a home video. Even Canon 5D internal recorder has 48 KHz sampling rate and the sound is unacceptable to most quality conscious DSLR shooter.
@supportren Take it easy guys, she deserves an "A" for effort. Name one girl her age that even knows this much?? No need to be harsh or talk down on her. This goes for all you so called "professionals" that only shoot short films and brag about it! Calm down and just correct her instead of discouraging her. She is trying, always remember that.
@supportren I'm no audiophile or engineer but comparing the internal mic to a studio grade condenser mic is pretty extreme. It may record at a higher frequency but if you've got a $2 mic as the conduit, then it really isn't a fair comparison now, is it? Take the home podcasting industry for example; you can spend $10 on a desktop mono mic and record in uncompressed Wav format but it's only as good as your mic will capture it.
@supportren its more to do with the ADDA converters..example a soundscape recording at 16 bit 44.1khz will sound fuller than any of these units..(degree level engineer for your info).. the real issue though is the tech involved in the conversion with little distortion (noise, electrical and digital/analog interference) ... you pay X amount for that reason..69 quid pc card has all these Khz and wot not... but a soundscape system eliminates all the noise with a very efficient digital AtoD design!
I appreciate your video. But please help me to understand why is it necessary to connect the Sony recorder to the Camera? Can't we keep it simpler by using the clapper, record audio and video separate and then sync in post production?
@supportren to continue... you are just the right age... to progress into a professional... good for you... its inspiring to me and to others out there... keep it up :0)
@SoundByteUK That is not true, you can very easily hear the difference in sound quality of the source recorded in 44 and 96 Hz. 96 KHz or higher sample rate will allow you to do DSP without messing up the audio quality far more than a 44 KHz recorded audio. Why don't you try to convince any music production house by showing your Nyquist analysis calculation and graphs and let us know exactly happened there?
@supportren indeed it is not important. i didn't realize that you could hear at 48 KHz or indeed for that matter above 20 Khz itself. so the nyquist calculations are right.
You don't need to record at 96khz. There are dozens of dedicated audio interfaces out there that sound worse at 192khz then good gear recording at 44.1.
@AussieGriller It is kind of like saying using high fructose corn syrup instead of using real sugar will make your BBQ taste good right? Sorry I will still stick with sugar, that is 96 KHz sampling rate.
you are awesome Ritwika i ran into ur video n now i m watching others :) u seem very talented keep doing ur videos they r awesome. only brown girl with some really good video..
DaMenaCe3 1 hour ago
Were do u get all dat money to buy ur stuff from??
SaleemEffects 9 hours ago
Very good job, but damn making shit complicated :O -
1st_ start the video-recording.
2nd: start the off-camera recorder.
3rd: Clap three times infront of the camera.
4th: sync that shit up in Final cut :D
methalpa 1 day ago in playlist Uploaded videos
good job
this is very well made love your videos
LEVVELIKI 3 days ago
Crazy talk with the attenuator... just record a separate track on the digital recorder and add to the timeline and auto sync with Plural Eyes.
telebob 3 days ago
@telebob Thanks thats a relief.. i was really terrified by what she said with all that elictronic stuff..
MenEla5ir 1 day ago
I found this tutorial helpful because you were succinct, stayed on topic and went into depth - even including the explanation of the attenuator cable construction. Thank you for sharing!
MarkGingerich 4 days ago
i love you. plz homeschool our kids
part2themovie 4 days ago
Good video. Thanks :)
smile2many 6 days ago
WTF. I just learnt from this video that: to get a better sound recording on my 5D i have to use a different sound recorder?
danonabouncycastle 6 days ago 2
I like your tutorial and I have been trying to carry out the same thing (passive Attenuator) but one component (200K Lin Trim Potentioment) looks like impossible to get. From 10k, 100k, 250k & 500k are all I can get. the question is, can I use 2 of 100k or 1 of 250K or higher lin trim pot
toks779 6 days ago
If you are going to sync the audio from both video and field recorder, why bother adding the attenuator and aux out when you can use 5D2's inbuilt mic and record the same thing except of not so good quality, then sync in post using the field recorder??
ProMushr00m 6 days ago 2
I'm just amazed at how smart you are
quincyonq 6 days ago
"I personally use.." ... one profesional sound recorder?? wtf? you are some hollywood director or what?
ReadEr441 1 week ago
I dont see the need to really input audio back into the digital camera. Just set the cameras mic as loud as you can. Even if you are still going to input audio from external recorder, instead of all that extra circuits, just lower the output level from the external audio recorder. Should be a software setting inside recorder. It just seems like a complicated setup, when both audio setting could just be adjusted instead.
linuxcooldude 1 week ago
You're way clever!
peterwXXX 1 week ago
Nice
hasan1429 1 week ago
pretty neat, might have to make one, already made my own clapboard. p.s. I think your pretty
MegaDriverman 1 week ago
I thought she explained the whole process very well. I would re-do the video. Try a clear white background to make the components for the transfer cable stand out better. I also found the lighting and background to dull. However, I learned something very interesting from this clip and that what the end result is all about. Keep up the good work.
MrGo2000 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee subtitulos in spain! y se multiplicarian su suscriptores
edhwin 1 week ago
congratulations for videos!!! you are hindu woman?
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exitoyfama 1 week ago
Nice video, shame you're fugly really.
ApertureTutorials 1 week ago
@ApertureTutorials , yeah, she's not that pretty, but she seems to know her stuff.
jaworskij 1 week ago
i was going to say, u gonna get noise out of that setup then I saw u are shielding it... good call otherwise it would have rendered the better recorder useless.
ParsianTV 2 weeks ago
wow, nice work and very educational.
lalalaina4life 3 weeks ago
96 kelowHARTZ
gromacs00 3 weeks ago 5
I found this to be very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I will look to find where to donate.
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MikeGnar513 3 weeks ago
you can buy a really nice slate for 10 bucks at B&H lol....smh
dobunz 3 weeks ago
Rocket Science mathmatic..LMFAO
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reading the responses, I wonder if people are paying attention
if you want to sync your video to the audio, it's good to have good audio on your camera to sync to. if you don't plug the audio recorder into the camera, you get far inferior audio signal to sync with. when you're editing, you can't see the same spikes and valleys that you'd see in quality audio. yes, the camera audio will be of lower quality than the audio recorder. but it will be far superior to the on cam mic audio.
thedvguy 3 weeks ago
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thedvguy 3 weeks ago
my brain hurts when she starts talking about hooking wires together lol
ShadowManV3 4 weeks ago
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meikmeelafable 1 month ago
Fantastic video! Keep up the awesome work =)
seanyyg 1 month ago
Everything you said is true, but this rig is way to complicated to use, if you are doing serious work you should have second person dealing with sound, on-board audio recorder mic IS NOT GOOD in any recorder, you need a good external mic!!!
RrahimStruja 1 month ago
I am new to DSLR cameras but I recently bough a Canon 7D. What is the difference between the Sony PCM-D50 and the Zoom H4n? I am looking for a good mic but not sure what to get. Can you help?
Thanks for posting this.
didanhtennis 1 month ago
You have done a great job in this instruction video. You are very good at this. I just had to give you your props and A+...
timdawg747 1 month ago
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SoundOnSite 1 month ago
you don't know how lucky you are to be starting digital video-making with the 5d mark2.
Four1ThreeStudios 1 month ago
By the way, don't assume the EOS5D is poor compared to other sound recorders. We've tested Zoom, and Tascam 2-channel recorders with poor results. Forget the '24-bit' and 96kHz hype - it's irrelevant. Limiting factor is noise level. The 5D has noise at -51dB wtd 468 relative to alignment level. The Zoom is -50dB. True 16-bit acheives -66dB, true 24-bit -80dB (same measurement standard). Best portable recorder is the Tascam 6-channel DR-680 (-70dB), just a bit better than true 16-bit.
lindosland 1 month ago
Good work in realising that you need an attenuator and building one! I have measured the EOS5D (and GH2 etc) and you can see the results at the Lindos Electronics site (click on the test sheet database tab). Lindos now sell an attenuator (from pro-line levels) which incorporates compensation for the bass rolloff , as well as the Minisonic Mic kit with preamp. See demo videos at the Lindos Electronics channel.
lindosland 1 month ago
this is perfect for recording..if you want to be mugged in the street and laughed at for looking like a stupid showoff
whisker96 1 month ago
Nice...thanks help a lot.
RafaelC457ro 1 month ago
@StudioGoldsmith
you seem to know your stuff and I see that you have a few tutorials as well. I've seen many tutorials on using separate devices to record audio but none of them explain their workflow regarding how to keep track of all of that audio so that it's easier to find and sync audio to video once you get to post. Especially on a longer and more complex shoot when you have several clips of audio on your recorder. Can you offer any tips on this? Perhaps a tutorial?
kuunami 1 month ago
Your one of the most Intelligent young women Ive seen, well done.
R00RAL 1 month ago
@R00RAL it's her dad telling her what to do step by step
lotfihdv 1 month ago
This is great info! Your're smart and hot! Don't listen to the negative people here, they are mostly insecure men threaten by your intelligence!
kencane1255 1 month ago
Pad boxes are available from Canford audio & other places.
vintageaudioworkshop 1 month ago
Dear friend
congrats - A lot of valid info, a lot of good advise but the sound quality, is not on par... simply the object of this video is about sound, and should have a decent sound but several aspects were not taken in consideration - basic aspects like microphone input reg., volume equalization, and others like distortion, reverberation etc.
Please continue with this work, is very interesting and useful.
António
antonio35988 1 month ago
You even busted out a circuit diagram? damn you're good.
lozoft9 1 month ago
That's a VERY informative video and helps in so many ways when it comes to really GREAT audio over average sound . thanks for the post. I'm sure this will make a huge difference in the out come of my concert videos as well as music video post production. Thanks you so VERY much !
RSC31264 1 month ago
I know who is this girl! It's Dora!!!!!
CocktaiLMolotovX 2 months ago 11
Maybe you're just stupid, no offense.
hobbitgnr 2 months ago
I wish my girlfriend was as smart as you.
caseytheloring 2 months ago
you overdid it baby ;)
mpelevic 2 months ago
I didn't see this asked in the comments; I'm curious what hot shoe to 1/4"-20 ball head adapter you're using? This also looks like a solid connection (not a shock mounted one) do you notice handling noise when it's mounted like this, or are you mostly only using this setup when the camera is on a tripod?
Thanks in advance!
jps1107 2 months ago
Why do you claim it's essential that the recorder have a sampling rate of at least 96 kHz? Are you planning to record dog whistles?
deadbirdsings 2 months ago
@deadbirdsings 96khz are not for recording dogs whistles... 96 khz is the frequency who determinate the sound definition. The sound wave have an wave form structure, and it seems like square when you close up, and this square effect deseapear when the frequency rate increase. You will have a soud more "true" than a lower frequency.
CocktaiLMolotovX 2 months ago
@CocktaiLMolotovX - I think you're getting sampling rate mixed up with bit depth. There may be some obscure technical reasons why 96 kHz might be better than 44.1 kHz from an engineering standpoint, but AFAIC, 44.1 kHz sounds fine and all you're doing by recording at 96 kHz is wasting storage space on frequencies only a tiny minority of humans can hear (and whether there's anything past 20 kHz that's even worth hearing is another question).
deadbirdsings 2 months ago
@deadbirdsings .goal of all this technics are not to recover high frequency, it's just for to reproduce what Nagra with magnetic tape was able to do easily. A hold magnetic recorder tape works on analogic wave, the wave game is " infinit". Not for numeric recorder: they need to have the highest bitrate (with khz and more, with BIT) for to have similar result like a magnetic tape.
CocktaiLMolotovX 2 months ago
@deadbirdsings I forgot to explain to you something: Very high bitrate (192khz24bit) help you to work sound again, and again on post production, with minimized loss of quality, each time you need to repared the sound track, or equalizing, etc.
CocktaiLMolotovX 2 months ago
@CocktaiLMolotovX It's not necessary tp work in 192k. 44k/24bit is reasonable enough, we use it in the studio also. 192k would give you better sound when pitch shifting downwards, but other than that people don't differ the rates in the final product. It can actually get annoying to concentrate on all the fine details in the mix, if you think about the fact the end product is consumed in mp3 through desktop speakers by the majority :)
DCXTV 1 month ago
your good
seedeece 2 months ago
@seedeece no, YOU'RE good
whales 2 months ago
1 Suggestion in between the class the music at adobe premiere the volume was so high because of which It was a lil managable ther to listen to what you say so next time try to make it a lil low or try some mild music. Thankyou for enlightening us with the class.
HARISHROSHAN 2 months ago
you ungrateful punks...this is wonderful info being given for nada. Boring?? it's supposed to be informative not titillating....so get a life. Thanks Rennaisance Now! You are doing a wonderful job!
mambochief 2 months ago
very boringggggg
leonleouis 2 months ago
Kilo hartz... Kilo hertz :)
BelowZeroDigital 2 months ago
Not sure if all this is necessary, BUT GIRL YOU ARE AWESOME!
MrFranksFlicks 2 months ago
@StudioGoldsmith CLAPPER FTW
MrMagicCreeper 2 months ago
Very informative. Amazingly boring.
gnatluo 2 months ago
Thanks
Art543 2 months ago
Congratulations Ritwika from Florida . This my #1 reference for getting the ultimate quality
Art543 2 months ago
Thanks for the help. Love the video and sound quality......
DocGenius1 2 months ago
This is MacGyver knowledge. More power to you for doing it. I'm sure you saved some dough. I'd probably just by the missing piece I needed. :)
zeevideo 2 months ago
@iron0an i use gitzo with manfrotto head and 30€ tripod too :)
EuropejskaUnia 2 months ago
hi. i don't get why you plug the recorder in to the mic input of the camera?
EuropejskaUnia 2 months ago 4
@EuropejskaUnia Please browse old replies, I have answered it many times before.
supportren 2 months ago
@supportren i am also confused by the need to use the line cable for sync capabilities, tried to find old replies and couldn't find!
Great video by the way!
vintageaudioworkshop 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@EuropejskaUnia DSLR cameras are very good for taking pictures and recording video, but you dont get a very high quality sound. You have to remember 50% of your video is sound and if you dont have good sound you dont have a good video. Professionals that record video with DSLR always have this Dual-System Sound. Some have pro camcorders and still use this Dual-System Sound. Its always good to have the highest sound quality as you can get.
kk6downing 2 months ago
@kk6downing hey. I have 5Dmk2 since 2 years and 2 microphones. one analogue and one active digital cheap Philips mic. I'm about to get Zoom or Tascam portable recorder for now and in the future H4N.
My question was why to plug the external recorder in to the Mic Input of the camera?
EuropejskaUnia 2 months ago
@EuropejskaUnia Your camera's audio is there for reference so when you get to editing you can sync your external audio with the camera's audio by looking at the wave form of both audio so you can see and align the them easily
In other words plugging your external audio device into your camera is so you can set the decibel (dB) levels the same.
kk6downing 2 months ago
@EuropejskaUnia 2.50
PalleSchultz 2 months ago
@EuropejskaUnia its easier to sync because the audio from the recorder will have the same waveforms the 5D mark ii audio will have.
stanlymanly2 2 months ago
Really interesting. Glad people still remember what Radio Shack is supposed to be there for. Now if someone could convince them to stop trying to be a mini Best Buy.
Cudos to the young lady for basic electronic knowledge.
chood73 2 months ago
Not bad, but why not mount your passive attenuator in a hobby box while you are at it? Would look much more pro, and make it last longer. Solder joints don't like to be flexed.
MasterGravitron 3 months ago
you are amazing! Keep up the good work!
gadernal617 3 months ago
I love this vid ! congrats from argentina
nicolasmagicprofile 3 months ago
Stick to the filmmaking
leethomas123 3 months ago
@leethomas123 lol
AllThingsKen 2 months ago
You're awesome!! You're like the MacGyver of film making. Don't listen to the haters. Their anger and jealousy is their problem, not yours. Keep doing your thang!!
StellaisBack 3 months ago
Hi, i have a canon 7d with a firmware ver 1.2.5. I can't find the manual sound recording, i think that canon erased this function with new firmware but i'm not sure. do you know how to fix it?
junkarting 3 months ago
@junkarting No manual sound setting for 7D
fotobyjp 3 weeks ago
hay like this video...
LyndonSoulGroove 3 months ago
Very nice and educational video. Thank you very much. BTW, don't worry about one jerk who is (obviously) jealous, and only a minor distraction. He's like a useless fly that is out there pissing people people off with its buzzing, until somebody takes him out with a peace of rolled magazine, or newspaper.
You think it is a time for a new video that sounds like this: Bzzzzzzzzz....Bzzzzzz.... CLAP! ... ........[sound of toilet flush]
bodzio4062 4 months ago
people like you have the best things and do the worst shit! prefere my 550d
nitroso669 4 months ago
Outstanding video - thanks
moviewatcher1024 4 months ago
@SoundByteUK dude, 192khz is way more noticeable than 96khz, and 44.1 or 48 or whatever you want, youre talking about bit depth. the human ear cant distinguish between 32 bit and 64 bit depth rates, so regardless of the bit depth, its mainly the sample rates that affect the overall quality.... go do your research.
megamegamario13 4 months ago
the song good , but a girl is badd :s
JACKDOLAH 4 months ago
wow! is she a carpenter too?, never seen so many talent in one package!!
orabmacat 4 months ago
thanks for the tip
subtilstudio 4 months ago
She's cute, smart, solders, sings, records, and videos ...what's not to like? ;-)
Very nice presentation, and good information. First class job, young lady. You might want to think about building up a binaural head, since you seem to be technically oriented, and if you have the time and interest. If you haven't already heard binaural recordings (you probably have), have a listen to some here on youtube. They're amazing and a very cool next step.
MrJdsenior 4 months ago
you can go to online dictionaries and click on sound samples to hear correct pronunciations for words like 'potentiometer'.
zibianstein 4 months ago
Well, equipment videos are all well and good but do you actually film real stuff? You know, put all that gear to an artistic, visceral use? Or is this just gear fixation?
toddcasse 4 months ago
Wow! This is ultimate, yet simple. Simple physics, works marvelously. Why didn't it occur to me? Thank you Rittwika.
filmwallah 4 months ago
Wouldn't the world be a better place with women like this?
Thumbs up from Italy.
TetsuyaIT 4 months ago
Macguyver's daughter?
BuckTown17 4 months ago
Ritwika Rocks ! Thanks for the tutorials.
cattaraugus41 5 months ago
you are realey bad
japiejo1996 5 months ago
why is you sound so bad
japiejo1996 5 months ago
I really don't get why people call this the ultimate sound recording ..
You need a few things, a audio recorder, a boompole, a good quality microphone, and most important... AN OPERATOR. As a cameraman you don't want to be busy checking a sound recorder...
And what does a young girl do with a 5d.... buy a 600d or something
vrieskip 5 months ago
@vrieskip Yeah yeah Scorsese, we get it. Now move on!
slann303 4 months ago
very smart and well done; however, audio is completely separate from video and should be recorded separately and synced up in post. Good mic, and mixer would be best i'm guessing
massivelygolden 5 months ago
@aarontsu honestly, I'm telling you, you will not hear the difference - the human hearing spectrum stretches to around 20khz, while there are harmonic cycles which stretch up to infinity so long as you have 44.1khz of space for the first primary harmonic resonations it's almost impossible to hear the difference. Try a double blind test, I would bet every dollar I have you would not be able to hear the difference without the subjective expectation bias of knowing which is which
officialphatchance 5 months ago
@officialphatchance yup .. you is correct ... except some of us can hear at 49.4khz ... don't ask... for some reason I can hear the difference when I went for my degree in audio engineering.... 34 failed only 1 passed the test above the so called frequencies people cannot hear... must be a mutation or something lol... but yeah you are bang on the only time you will know the difference is the high freq shift with shit ADDA converters ... ala portable units (they all suck compared to soundscape)
jammapcb 5 months ago
Excelent explanation!. I can see many young ladies like you with no understanding of nothing, while you give explanations of a difficult matter in a very professional way. I admire it. thanks.
raulrrojas 5 months ago
@supportren actually you're totally wrong about this, try a double blind test with a 41khz and 96khz file and you will not be able to hear the difference, I guarantee it, the 'staircasing' you're talking about is redundant, particularly as you're going to down convert to 44.1khz for CD quality anyway.
officialphatchance 5 months ago
@officialphatchance but if you convert up again and compare the two files you will hear the difference
Aarontsu 5 months ago
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officialphatchance 5 months ago
Wow. This was the most unnecessary video I think I've seen. Do you really think someone out there is going to follow your step by step instructions? Like really, you asking people to solder shit...
This isn't kipkay
JWhitePhotography 5 months ago
@JWhitePhotography Good call. What a waste of time. The "ultimate sound recording" setup would be to stop being a cheapo and just buy the real gear from a shop.
seumas12345 5 months ago
Bit depth really comes into play when trying to gain head room and can seriously help stop clipping. Also should you use post effects like reverbs these can really benefit from a higher Bit Depth, good reverbs sound more natural and deeper.
sirdoufus 5 months ago
Hojala se le quebre.
jostikerostv 5 months ago
how about juicedlink to ur dslr.
xxbluejay21 5 months ago
nice helpful video and well done.
Thanks
charld 5 months ago
You suck badly.
Darryl765 5 months ago
Cute little kid.
I think Dad is hanging around the set somewhere with the real knowledge.
nordfjellBrandt 6 months ago 17
@nordfjellBrandt She knows how to make an attenuator. That was pretty impressive. I would have just bought one, but she seems to really understand it's construction. Seems like "real" knowledge, wouldn't you say?
marike1100 4 months ago
@nordfjellBrandt hater noobs
Boemlauw 2 months ago
@SoundByteUK yes but you can further avoid aliasing.. you're missing the point
DarkShroom 6 months ago
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robmar555 6 months ago
build an attenuation? How about just buy a H4N and turn the out put down? H4 alows 4 track recording so you can also use the on board H4 mics as ambiance a shothun and a lapel at the same time.
dimentagon 6 months ago
@fanica31 agreed...i'm pretty sure that is all that is required....
marshallzar 6 months ago
What's the best wireless lav mic to get for a 5D MKII?
phototristan 6 months ago
You can buy a special cable cant you? Ive seen a zoom h4n plugged in with a special cable to a nikon d300s
Kibd regards
hikinguphigh 6 months ago
you are the best girl on you tube :)
10mism 6 months ago
you are very smart, i didn't see so unique girl in my life :)
buzzie114 6 months ago
The only reason so many people are giving you guff for this video, is the fact they just can't stand how much smarter you are than they are about audio, wiring, electronics, etc. By they time you are as old as most of these haters, your achievements will be higher than anything they ever do. Rock on!
trippiano 6 months ago 14
@trippiano
Right on. I am a degreed electrical engineer, with a long time interest in audio. Her presentation and info were spot on, and anyone who would pick on a kid her age operating at her obviously quite elevated level needs a serious course in anger management, and maybe to gain some self confidence as well.
MrJdsenior 4 months ago
@MrJdsenior
ahahah her dad has an electrical engineering degree ;)
also, if you have one degree to, you should know that sampling a wave at a frequency that is the double of the max freq. in that wave, by signal processing theory means you can get the original wave in perfect condition. Conclusion you can avoid all the trouble in the video and attach a quality microphone to the 48kHz micro-in sampler in the canon 5d mark II.
In the picking-the-kid issue, you are completely right.
molinobeer 4 months ago
@trippiano Not quite... it's fine she's using a consumer grade recorder that doesn't even have XLR input (which is what the 5D really lacks. Then there's the thing that even if I was doing a test i would take the time to treat the environment I was recording in.... semi-good Sony recorder and badly treated room = crap example.
What does it matter that you know how to connect the two and turn them on, if you screw up the acoustics?
flicebaby 3 months ago
@flicebaby Whats up with XLR and phono socket? Do you really understand what you are talking about? Do you think XLR provides better audio fidelity over phono?
supportren 3 months ago
@trippiano I know the reason behind funny comments. Our Psychology course at school explained it. Isn't it sad?
supportren 3 months ago
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vojta78 6 months ago
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vojta78 6 months ago
Hi, why do I need to plug the sound recorder into the camera if I use a clapper board
and also can I sync sound without clapper board using just the camera internal mic and sync it in post with the sound from the external recorder.
SvetozarIvanov 6 months ago
Great Video! Greetings!!!
maciekkk123 6 months ago
Nice work, all the best,
BuddLightbrain 6 months ago
Not bad sound
forPhotographers 6 months ago
Retarded, just use freaking pluraleyes. That way you can put your mic near the subject like it should be. Stereo sound mounted on camera is terrible.
StephenNorman 7 months ago
There's a dead fluffy rat on your camera...just kidding, good work, as well as for your other videos!
Ofirinb 7 months ago
Wow, I've been a director / cinematographer for 13 years and I've shot over 6 full length features, I must say I've never come across a young lady as smart, quick and technical as you. I'm impressed...you will go places, I hope your parents are proud of you cuz I am (LoL) Best wishes
guguemichaels 7 months ago 2
the new Steven Spielberg
Hamzah41081 7 months ago
@SoundByteUK So you think higher sampling rate only helps to capture higher freq. right? A common mistake many people make, so don't worry. When you sample a 20KHz freq. sine wave with 44 K sample, you will get a very ragged two step staircase to represent a nice smooth sine wave. It is like enlarging a small thumbnail into a poster size pixilated print. If you sample it in 96K, you will get more fine grain stairs which will be much more HiFi and you can easily hear the difference.
supportren 7 months ago 4
@supportren honestly anythimg above 48 Khz is unnecessary. and don't patronize people. it's rude.
SoundByteUK 7 months ago 3
@SoundByteUK Your understanding about sampling rate is incomplete and I just filled the void. Pointing incorrect understanding is not called patronizing. I am here talking about professional setup and not a home video. Even Canon 5D internal recorder has 48 KHz sampling rate and the sound is unacceptable to most quality conscious DSLR shooter.
supportren 7 months ago
@supportren Take it easy guys, she deserves an "A" for effort. Name one girl her age that even knows this much?? No need to be harsh or talk down on her. This goes for all you so called "professionals" that only shoot short films and brag about it! Calm down and just correct her instead of discouraging her. She is trying, always remember that.
guguemichaels 7 months ago
@supportren I'm no audiophile or engineer but comparing the internal mic to a studio grade condenser mic is pretty extreme. It may record at a higher frequency but if you've got a $2 mic as the conduit, then it really isn't a fair comparison now, is it? Take the home podcasting industry for example; you can spend $10 on a desktop mono mic and record in uncompressed Wav format but it's only as good as your mic will capture it.
supercooled 6 months ago
@supportren its more to do with the ADDA converters..example a soundscape recording at 16 bit 44.1khz will sound fuller than any of these units..(degree level engineer for your info).. the real issue though is the tech involved in the conversion with little distortion (noise, electrical and digital/analog interference) ... you pay X amount for that reason..69 quid pc card has all these Khz and wot not... but a soundscape system eliminates all the noise with a very efficient digital AtoD design!
jammapcb 5 months ago
@SoundByteUK
I appreciate your video. But please help me to understand why is it necessary to connect the Sony recorder to the Camera? Can't we keep it simpler by using the clapper, record audio and video separate and then sync in post production?
marshallzar 6 months ago
@marshallzar I have answered this many many times in this comment section. Please browse through the old comments
supportren 6 months ago
@supportren to continue... you are just the right age... to progress into a professional... good for you... its inspiring to me and to others out there... keep it up :0)
jammapcb 5 months ago
Wow extremely smart for a young girl! Most girls have no business in professional filming/photography! I idle you and your 5D!!! Like and Sub!
-Ryan
MrPyroEnthusiast 7 months ago 15
@MrPyroEnthusiast And I have learned a lot about Pyrotechnics from your video. I always wanted to know how it works, thanks!
supportren 7 months ago 2
@SoundByteUK That is not true, you can very easily hear the difference in sound quality of the source recorded in 44 and 96 Hz. 96 KHz or higher sample rate will allow you to do DSP without messing up the audio quality far more than a 44 KHz recorded audio. Why don't you try to convince any music production house by showing your Nyquist analysis calculation and graphs and let us know exactly happened there?
supportren 7 months ago
@supportren indeed it is not important. i didn't realize that you could hear at 48 KHz or indeed for that matter above 20 Khz itself. so the nyquist calculations are right.
SoundByteUK 7 months ago
You don't need to record at 96khz. There are dozens of dedicated audio interfaces out there that sound worse at 192khz then good gear recording at 44.1.
AussieGriller 7 months ago
@AussieGriller It is kind of like saying using high fructose corn syrup instead of using real sugar will make your BBQ taste good right? Sorry I will still stick with sugar, that is 96 KHz sampling rate.
supportren 7 months ago
@supportren And Sony PCM D50 is not any cheapo audio interface.
supportren 7 months ago