Well , Documentary was one sided . For example , Its a reality that a train had reached Lahore from Shimla and all the Muslims in the train were butchered.
BUT YES I AGREE , Atrocities were committed on Both Sides.
It's sad that a woman's rape is considered her community and family's dishonour that she can avoid only by death. Men consider it their virility and honour to rape women or to kill them for honour.Partition was deliberately done, all plans were kept on hold till the last so that people killed and got killed. And it was obvious killing would happen -- land and livelihoods was involved. The British used the traditional distrust between Hindus and Muslims to crack open the sub-continent.
I am a muslim from Lahore-Pakistan and I am in tears listening to this Sikh brother. It was not right.I am ashamed. Neither muslims nor sikhs should have done all this only to make the hindus better.
@nomani7 Yeah and what would you propose, Muslim and Sikhs ganging up to screw Hindus. The Hindus paid in blood in Bengal and the Sikhs suffered in Punjab and in both the events the honorable Muslims were the culprits. So please stuff your logic where it belongs, up your posterior hole...
@ComradeJin Yea. He's right. See, the customs and traditions of older generations were really twisted. Honour and respect was placed above all else. So therefore, instead of risking "dishonour"(which is a pathetic way of putting it) which will be brought upon the family by raped women,they chose to kill those women before anyone of them was raped.. GOD IT MAKES ME MAD! STUPID RELIGION WAS THE REASON FOR ALL THIS!
What a sick Man who murdered his own family just because supposedly some idiot asked for one girl. It's hard to believe this story though impressively told.
@Djarian2000 You're really thick aren't you.....He asked for one girl, but he wasn't gonna leave all the other girls, the muslims were going to rape and murder the sikh girls. If you were in his shoes, would you rather let your women go through the misery of rape and then murder? Or would you kill them with the blow of a sword so that they don't have to suffer the pain of rape and brutal methods of murder?
Oh my... 7:15-8:50 has to be one of the saddest interviews I have ever seen. I can just see this elderly man's heart wrenching all over again as it had many decades before...very hard to watch
Only cowards attack women! That is so true. But the only people who raped women were either Muslims or Hindu's. The Sikhs never raped any women, research and you will see. Like look at that clown in this doc that's asked for one girl and there will be no problems. Only a Muslim can be so deceiving. I am proud of the Sikhs who gave their daughters to God as martyrs and NOT to be converted by pervert Muslim's. May God give those women an end to the re-incarnation cycle for they deserve it.
You are SO FULL OF IT. Sikhs never raped anyone? Look, i have many sikh friends, but this is so false. You are being emotional, and thinking that your people who follow your religion can do no wrong. In this very documentary, it is told how a muslim girl school in amritsar was raided and all the girls were stripped and raped. I have spoken to old sikh babaji's who themselves have told me that they knew men who raided and raped women and then cut their heads and breasts off.
Finally, I agree with one of the interviewers that Lahore has suffered tremendously as a result of Partition. Of course, I never witnessed his pre-Partition cosmopolitan, liberal, and progressive Lahore. But I have seen the decline of the city from mid-70s onwards due to Islamization. ("Islamization" is a direct consequence of Partition; it is a means to give people a new identity). In fact, the same can be said of Pak in general; Islamization is slowly but surely devouring it.
It may sound naive, I think a mechanism should have been instituted to allow those who wanted to stay behind in Punjab to be able to do so. I am an ethnic Punjabi from my father's side as well as a native of Lahore. My father - who witnessed Partition as a college student in Lahore and hails from a village in West Punjab - also told me that Partition was brutally enforced by local mobs. The best a neighbor could do was to help "other" community member escape to a refugee camp.
@KashifHKhan : One needs to read about domestic violence in all colonies at the time they are being vacated by colonial masters, will reveal a lot about the Imperialist culture. See Africa for instance. An optimistic thought is that an undivided India would have seen lessening communal tensions with Gandhi perhaps. And once India started recognizing national heroes in diverse fields, it would have been really progressive. The British created this Holocaust to avoid a backlash.
The suffering of women during the Partition is particularly deplorable. It is heart wrenching to hear tales of "honor killings" where fathers murdered their own daughters to prevent them from being "dishonored". Equally horrific are the instances of mass rapes of women by members of the "other" community. Finally, given a mother's natural love for her children, who would not be moved by decision of some of them to abandon infants during long march to other side of the border?
As Partition occurred on British watch, I believe it was their responsibility to ensure safety of people during expected migration. It is shocking that Mountbatten actually started returning British troops to the UK upon his arrival, did not utilize the Indian Army (under British command) to guarantee law and order, precipitated chaos by moving forward the date of Partition by one year, and invited additional killings by keeping the fate of Lahore a secret till last minute.
What can I say about Partition that has not already been said? It is the seminal event of the history of the Subcontinent as well as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Still, I would like to make four observations: (a) the utter lack of preparation for mass migration; (b) the horrific treatment meted out to women; (c) the enforcement of Partition in Punjab against people's will; and (d) the decline of Lahore - and Pakistan in general - as a result of Partition.
Well , Documentary was one sided . For example , Its a reality that a train had reached Lahore from Shimla and all the Muslims in the train were butchered.
BUT YES I AGREE , Atrocities were committed on Both Sides.
LRA1969 2 months ago in playlist Partition - The Day India Burned
i wish jinnah was alive! just so i could kill him again!
mhlmehul 6 months ago
@bhasinuscuscable
and clearly you are mistaken.
Religion was the cause of all this violence
timetraveler2006 7 months ago
It's sad that a woman's rape is considered her community and family's dishonour that she can avoid only by death. Men consider it their virility and honour to rape women or to kill them for honour.Partition was deliberately done, all plans were kept on hold till the last so that people killed and got killed. And it was obvious killing would happen -- land and livelihoods was involved. The British used the traditional distrust between Hindus and Muslims to crack open the sub-continent.
sappho01 10 months ago
I am a muslim from Lahore-Pakistan and I am in tears listening to this Sikh brother. It was not right.I am ashamed. Neither muslims nor sikhs should have done all this only to make the hindus better.
nomani7 1 year ago
@nomani7 Yeah and what would you propose, Muslim and Sikhs ganging up to screw Hindus. The Hindus paid in blood in Bengal and the Sikhs suffered in Punjab and in both the events the honorable Muslims were the culprits. So please stuff your logic where it belongs, up your posterior hole...
russkikanji 11 months ago
What was the Sikh gentleman saying at 8:00? He seems to be describing his own father killing his sister. WTF? Could somebody explain?
It's a really moving documentary. I learned a lot.
ComradeJin 1 year ago
@ComradeJin Yea. He's right. See, the customs and traditions of older generations were really twisted. Honour and respect was placed above all else. So therefore, instead of risking "dishonour"(which is a pathetic way of putting it) which will be brought upon the family by raped women,they chose to kill those women before anyone of them was raped.. GOD IT MAKES ME MAD! STUPID RELIGION WAS THE REASON FOR ALL THIS!
TheKpsd 9 months ago
honor killing! do all Indian religions practice this matted?
oct1984 1 year ago
Death before dishonour proud to be Sikh
EliteEstablishment 1 year ago
humans are animals simply said
whoiszizou 1 year ago
nehru was a corrupt and terrible man
he and jinnah were buddies all along they divided india so they wouldn't have to share their power
at least gandhi was good, but nobody listened to him
vehlajatt22 1 year ago
What a sick Man who murdered his own family just because supposedly some idiot asked for one girl. It's hard to believe this story though impressively told.
Djarian2000 1 year ago
@Djarian2000 You're really thick aren't you.....He asked for one girl, but he wasn't gonna leave all the other girls, the muslims were going to rape and murder the sikh girls. If you were in his shoes, would you rather let your women go through the misery of rape and then murder? Or would you kill them with the blow of a sword so that they don't have to suffer the pain of rape and brutal methods of murder?
punjabistan01 1 year ago
i am Hindu , love Muslim , love Sikh love India love Pakistan love Bangladesh ... i hate UN humanity thats it. peace to all
nitunitu88 1 year ago
Oh my... 7:15-8:50 has to be one of the saddest interviews I have ever seen. I can just see this elderly man's heart wrenching all over again as it had many decades before...very hard to watch
zoomie13 2 years ago
The carnage was POINTLESS!!! Needless!! Frutiless!!!
humanseasons 2 years ago 8
akkhan wichon aapney aap pani nikal gaya, ki pagal pan si eh. wahey guru :(
alps112001 2 years ago
Only cowards attack women! That is so true. But the only people who raped women were either Muslims or Hindu's. The Sikhs never raped any women, research and you will see. Like look at that clown in this doc that's asked for one girl and there will be no problems. Only a Muslim can be so deceiving. I am proud of the Sikhs who gave their daughters to God as martyrs and NOT to be converted by pervert Muslim's. May God give those women an end to the re-incarnation cycle for they deserve it.
discovery2009 2 years ago
You are SO FULL OF IT. Sikhs never raped anyone? Look, i have many sikh friends, but this is so false. You are being emotional, and thinking that your people who follow your religion can do no wrong. In this very documentary, it is told how a muslim girl school in amritsar was raided and all the girls were stripped and raped. I have spoken to old sikh babaji's who themselves have told me that they knew men who raided and raped women and then cut their heads and breasts off.
boneimage 2 years ago 12
Man this is so sad, a father forced to kill his own daughter to save honour.
dadarocks 2 years ago
only cowars attack women and children wjkkhalsa wjkfateh
tiger4222000 2 years ago
Unfortunately we are full of cowards in subcontinent
dadarocks 2 years ago 3
PART 5:
Finally, I agree with one of the interviewers that Lahore has suffered tremendously as a result of Partition. Of course, I never witnessed his pre-Partition cosmopolitan, liberal, and progressive Lahore. But I have seen the decline of the city from mid-70s onwards due to Islamization. ("Islamization" is a direct consequence of Partition; it is a means to give people a new identity). In fact, the same can be said of Pak in general; Islamization is slowly but surely devouring it.
-Kashif
KashifHKhan 2 years ago
PART 4:
It may sound naive, I think a mechanism should have been instituted to allow those who wanted to stay behind in Punjab to be able to do so. I am an ethnic Punjabi from my father's side as well as a native of Lahore. My father - who witnessed Partition as a college student in Lahore and hails from a village in West Punjab - also told me that Partition was brutally enforced by local mobs. The best a neighbor could do was to help "other" community member escape to a refugee camp.
-Kashif
KashifHKhan 2 years ago
@KashifHKhan : One needs to read about domestic violence in all colonies at the time they are being vacated by colonial masters, will reveal a lot about the Imperialist culture. See Africa for instance. An optimistic thought is that an undivided India would have seen lessening communal tensions with Gandhi perhaps. And once India started recognizing national heroes in diverse fields, it would have been really progressive. The British created this Holocaust to avoid a backlash.
ganeshanI1 11 months ago
PART 3:
The suffering of women during the Partition is particularly deplorable. It is heart wrenching to hear tales of "honor killings" where fathers murdered their own daughters to prevent them from being "dishonored". Equally horrific are the instances of mass rapes of women by members of the "other" community. Finally, given a mother's natural love for her children, who would not be moved by decision of some of them to abandon infants during long march to other side of the border?
-Kashif
KashifHKhan 2 years ago
PART 2:
As Partition occurred on British watch, I believe it was their responsibility to ensure safety of people during expected migration. It is shocking that Mountbatten actually started returning British troops to the UK upon his arrival, did not utilize the Indian Army (under British command) to guarantee law and order, precipitated chaos by moving forward the date of Partition by one year, and invited additional killings by keeping the fate of Lahore a secret till last minute.
-Kashif
KashifHKhan 2 years ago
PART 1:
What can I say about Partition that has not already been said? It is the seminal event of the history of the Subcontinent as well as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Still, I would like to make four observations: (a) the utter lack of preparation for mass migration; (b) the horrific treatment meted out to women; (c) the enforcement of Partition in Punjab against people's will; and (d) the decline of Lahore - and Pakistan in general - as a result of Partition.
-Kashif
KashifHKhan 2 years ago