Sevens - Guthrie Govan (Music Live 2006)

[Timmonsec]

His hair was fuzzier those days :D

[billylomito]

Just found out this guy exists; good lord his playing is damn beautiful

[ArtistaaDesconocido]

DIOS!

[Dan1loBr]

a 7-minute "Sevens" which is the seventh track of the album played at 7/4 measure

rawr!

[guthriefan777]

@Dan1loBr If only he had been playing a 7-string :P

[Vibrato1989]

hey guys visit my channel for recent live videos of guthrie (29th may 2010). Check out Sevens it's probably his best version of that song !

[thehatthehedge]

mr govan ...in football /soccer terms has glued the ball to his feet and its stuck and now its up the someone to come up with the antidote ......if they can

[Kingding6]

@thehatthehedge hes the messi of guitar

[frannyp46]

@thehatthehedge  Steve Stevens said a very similar comment

[flowerdrop1]

best part is 3:30 - 3:50

[TearTheRoofOff]

it may be the cluttering up of sounds on this video, but I believe I hear a chord change at 1:00 that is different from his record. It sounds amazing, and wish it was on the original!

[TearTheRoofOff]

@TearTheRoofOff just realized there's an organ in here. That would be the culprit. Really nice addition!

[acecalumkl]

haha hes been to my school!

[Hardysamnin]

Now i know why i suck, this dude is hogging all the talent.

[fullofblood]

Tell him the name of a musical genre,and say can you pay this?He will say hit me up the same exact time tomorrow and then by tomorrow you will see that only is he able to play it,good,very good but he can actually master it and play it better than anyone else...It's just ridiculous how good he is!!!

[TheKylester1993]

Amazing, simply brilliant.

[commercialking]

Maybe it's me, but Guthrie seems like he's the next Vai or Yngwie of this generation.

[1madaboutguitar]

Better in my opinion

[0iGer0]

lol, did you even ... Doubt about that ?

[Kingding6]

@commercialking he is so mcu better than those guys

[Scarified2012]

Man this guy is amazing even live he hasnt skipped a beat hes just top of his game what a great musician

[xelad1]

my favorite part of this was when guthrie govan actually turned into a guitar and played himself.

[cincyrocked]

Sick!

[MozartAG]

he is just the best. i think he is kinda father of new generation of instrumental music. Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Paul Gilbert and all these guys came to background for me since i heard Guthrie Govan!

[aileoz]

totally agreed

GG is jst d best...modern n jazzy at once

for me, he is a great inspiration, so as d late 92' - 99' Petrucci.

[aintnaive]

@MozartAG im in the same... maybe im scared to recognize it because i been listening for all those guitar players the last 15 years and their awesome but.......!!

[kewl2006]

whoa whoa... whose the keyboardist?

[kewl2006]

i. want. that. guitar.

[thelordofthestrings]

holy shit! great solo!!!!

[DRGasMoney]

i like the part when they played the song sevens.

[dingleberryfinn1]

i wish there was a way to get the other songs from this show. youtube used to have them but they were taken off for whatever reason. it featured the best version of wonderful slippery thing.

[IamtheGrynch]

Guy is ridiculous.

[trauma15]

lol guys chill out i was just kidding im fully aware that many people dont know what 7/4 time is. thats why i was being sarcastic, and yes guthrie govan is amazing

[Frankydestroy]

Questo qua tie le palle,palle,palle,palle,palle.­.......

E' dio fatto in persona e chiunque dice il contrario deve morire see you!

[reening]

I wonder what the sevens as the title means...

[reening]

what does that mean? time signatures?

[raulpage]

yes, they are time signatures. this one is in 7/4 that's why it's entitled Sevens. trauma15 thinks everybody knows music theory so he calls you an idiot, poor guy.

[reening]

ok thanks. Yeah, I kinda suck in theory so might as well be an idiot now than later.

[Carlosdamiano]

don't pay attention to this idiots.. you are not idiot just becouse you don't know theory.. and I feel sorry for those guys who think that just becouse they know some music theory they're smarter than others. fuck'em

[Amazingripper]

worst yet, he thought it was because the order on the album.. What a shame, he didn't notice the beautiful harmony in sevenths and fifths of each song respectively. what you say of 7/4 is also true! hadn't payed attention to that, bass tapping there drives me dumb ^^,

[slipperysky]

The bassist is Guthrie's brother - Seth Govan :)

[3shiftgtr]

reening-No one answered your question! A time signature is a musical marking letting the musician know how the music is counted. Example: 3/4 time (also know as waltz or 3 time) is counted 123,123,123, etc along with the tempo. Most tunes are in 4/4 (also known as common time or 4)and counted 1234,1234, etc. This tune is in 7 and is counted 1234567, 1234567, etc. There is a lot more to time signatures, but this is a start and I hope it helps.

[UncleRob199]

plus 7 or 5 isnt a time signature lol. The other guys described it better with 7/4 or 5/4. I wouldn't slag you off for this if you were nice to the guy who asked the question.

Who cares i guess, guthries is mindblowing!

[trauma15]

dude i was kidding, but i guess its hard to be sarcastic about such a thing anyways. but hey look i said just 7 insted of 7/4, obviously i was conscious of that, and my explanation is this, you can pretty much say its in 7, because, its over a 4 OR any other multiple of 4, it asymetrical time, or any other form of meter for that matter cannot be over 3, or 5, etc. plus, 7/4 and 7/8 are essentially the same, just you count 7 eight notes in 7/8, and its easier to read fast and difficult rhythms.

[antipunx]

I hate to correct you...but 7/4 and 7/8 are not the same thing. One is seven quarter notes (7/4), and the other is seven eighth notes (7/8). If they were to be played at the same tempo/bpm, the 7/4 measure will be twice as long, because quarter notes are twice as long as eighths.

[trauma15]

idk man i hope i didnt say they were the same cuz its wrong but i mean, look, you know what i mean....i know what they are and how to count them lol

[antipunx]

I kinda figured you already did....but I put that there just in case someone who doesn't know would look at the comments

[guitaralbert0]

yeah, but you can have the duration of a quarter note equal the duration of an eighth note (just changing what gets the beat). of course, this is pointless when actually counting rhythm for a song like this which keeps the same rhythm (sense of beat) throughout the piece

[antipunx]

Right...but that would mean changing the tempo...I was saying that an eighth note at say, 120 bpm, is going to be half as long as a quarter note at 120 bpm. If you start adding tempo switches while your explaining it, then all of it becomes pretty much irrelevant.

[guitaralbert0]

yeah, it's totally pointless. i just refer to the song being in 7; the denominator is total pointless because there is no metric modulation

[antipunx]

Right...It only really matter to the drummer anyway

[ilrs]

lol lies

that musta felt well good :P

[antipunx]

haha

[dbarbiegirl]

just.........:)

[ioannisdenton]

ok this concersesion is SO immature ppl. arguing about who is better is like arguing who has the biggest pennis.... its just stupid.

suppose gunthrie is better . SO what??

and what better guitarist means anyway?? grow up please :)

[Mikwest91]

i got too copy this comment and paste it on every guitar video on youtube...

[TheShredder89]

I don't see how the argument that John Petrucci is a lesser musician than Govan because he is "less versatile". In fact, that's is a rather absurd statement given the fact that Petrucci has studied classical, jazz, and blues, and that they show in his playing. Even more so, an artist is certainly not measured in the sum of styles they have mastered, but in their compositions. Thirdly, both Petrucci and Govan are AMAZING. Masterful composers/improvisers. End of story. Period.

[cavvgn]

@TheShredder89 Petrucci sux, as simple as that my friend. "Mr. Guitar" (I hope you know who we are talking about, right?), Jeff Beck, John McLaughlin, Jimi Hendrix, Pat Metheny, B.B.King, Guthrie Govan, Richie Kotzen, Wes Montgomery, Tommy Emmanuel... you get it. Those are Great Musician (and only after that, great guitarists).

No need to b politically correct about John Petrucci saying he is that good: clearly he is not. He is "average" compared to the true masters of the instrument.

[BBard889]

@cavvgn "Petrucci sux". Sorry, but you lost my interest at that point. I like all the guitarists you mentioned, but are you seriously gonna sit there with a straight face and say that "Petrucci sux", given his track-record as a MUSICIAN?

[cavvgn]

@BBard889 Don't worry, I lost my interest in Petrucci too very soon. He ins't that "musical" like others can do, plus his solo works are a ripping off from the famous guys (Satriani, Morse, ...).

I don't have time for a not-so-good Steve Morse clone. I listen to Steve Morse and other musicians that know how to compose great music.

By the way, no offense intended to you. I'm sorry if it sounds rude, but it's really as simple as that. Bye

[BBard889]

@cavvgn Fair enough :). Byyyye :D

[afroshredder]

dude i was here at that performance

i was literally about 3 people away from you

truly amazing

[albylobascio]

petrucci sucks

[99tollap]

You can't really count Guthrie when talking about the best guitar players. Its just not fair on the rest of them...

[martinlutherkingIII]

i hate to say it, but Guthrie is a much better guitarist than Petrucci, Vai, or Satriani.

[zakkydude654]

yh but guthrie hasnt released best selling albums world wide or been named guitarist of the year and doesn't have a fan base of hundreds of thousands across the world

[martinlutherkingIII]

but he should, and if you don't think that than you're either stupid or jealous.

[zakkydude654]

why would i be fucking jealous.....petrucci can make amazing music without going woobly wobbly tappy tappy down the neck of the guitar

[martinlutherkingIII]

yeah petrucci can make amazing music, but peturcci can't adapt to other music as well as govan. no doubt about it though, I respect petrucci a lot. Used to be my favorite guitarist.....until I found Guthrie Govan.

[kapalen]

he wobbles and taps. Both are very good and versatile. Have you guys not heard pertrucci's album with that pianist guy?

[dmnxCGi]

yes, you mean with jordan rudess, the album is called 'an evening with john petrucci and jordan rudess' it's an excellent album btw, and shows more melodic side of john petrucci. i don't care that much if guthrie is more versatile than petrucci (I'd personally think so) but petrucci is versatile enough to blow people's mind that's it. Music is not competition and on this level it's a very subjective matter. both are fantastic, period.

[WCuneo]

do you realize you're touting the same argument that many would use to assert Green Day as better than John's own Dream Theater? If you're a true Petrucci & Dream Theater fan, you'd realize that there is many times no correlation between being an excellent musician and selling records.

[zakkydude654]

what the fuck are you talking about i am a true dream theater fan i love dream theater and petrucci for their and his music.... i dont care about sales and stuff i just love their music

[0mgh4xftw]

he was guitarist of the year 1993.

[OsoDc]

its a different style...for each guitarist you mentioned...so yes each one is the best in their own style... :)

[XxDEFLESHEDxX]

i just see someone here mention Petrucci, please, for crying out load, its like saying Mick Mars are a much more competent player than Holdsworth.

Hell, even CC Deville is a better player than Petrucci, so please kids and babys, grow up and listen to Guthrie.

He eats kids like CC Deville, Mick Mars and Petrucci for breakfast.

[scenesfromamemory801]

ehmm.. I must say to you that that's why there are different genres.. Petrucci is in the progressive rock genre and Guthrie is nowhere near that genre, CC Deville belongs to the 80's rock genre, so how can Guthrie eat kids for breakfast when they're not even in his neighborhood (meaning genre)?? don't get me wrong Guthrie is an awesome player and I'm not putting him down in any way, but there might be a need to learn how to differentiate genres whenever talking about guitar players.

Peace.

[XxDEFLESHEDxX]

scenesfromamemory801 says "ehmm.. I must say to you that that's why there are different genres."

A good guitar player is a good guitar player, genre does not matter. Petrucci is probably amongst the most overrated players around these days, he is not really the worst, but he got nothing to offer when it comes to really good guitar playing.

[samiruldahl]

does "john petrucci" have nothing to "offer" when it comes to good guitar playing?? haha. and overrated? he played 6 hours of his life EVERY day have put up instructional video and sold millions of albums around the world. you really are the dumbest idiot i have ever heard in here. thats just stupid. its very rare to even become close as good as john petrucci is. it cant be done without alot of practice and starting at a young age. ofc guthrie is better but also alot older. idiot.

[WCuneo]

on the contrary, Guthrie Govan was born December 1971, and John in July of 1967. I'm a big fan of John's playing, but he cannot touch Guthrie in terms of versatility.

[pudicio]

In terms of melodic playing, I agree with you, although the two are pretty close. Check the vid 'guthrie plays who's best' where he emulates tons of guitarists. Don't underestimate John's control, though ;)

[gandaragarcia]

Guthrie plays whatever he wants. Progressive rock included.

[immortalsoloist]

Petrucci is not a kid he has done some awesome work I guess you can't compare anyone they all are Different Guthrie and Petrucci two different people.

[XxDEFLESHEDxX]

immortalsoloist says "Guthrie and Petrucci two different people."

Yes, one sucks and the other one does not.

Of course i can compare them, they are both guitar players, humans, and musicians

[dedrye]

You are retarted. Please just don't talk anymore. Thanks for playing.

[XxDEFLESHEDxX]

dedrye says: "You are retarted. Please just don't talk anymore. Thanks for playing."

If you do not understand the difference between good and bad musicianship, please step aside and vanish

[immortalsoloist]

please man just cause you can't admit the fact that petrucci has done excellent work doesn't mean you have to put such weird statements!They are different musicians and both are very diverse!Secondly Dream Theater is known for excellent Musicianship!Grow up!Guthrie is amazing John Petrucci is Amazing too it's that simple!

[rcScorcese]

next time, somebody close the cage door. You cant have untamed beasts raoming the stage. Im sure thats illegal.

[drix01]

i like to call that speed shit gash )

[guitboy63]

I saw Guthrie last night at a clinic in Richmond Hill Ontario. Seeing him just reaffirms what I already know(he's the best player). He was demonstrating Suhr guitars and amps, and some computer software. Guthrie is amazing and I can't wait for another CD.

[shred73]

not too many players impress me like guthrie

[berganbergan]

this video gave me the chills, especially the last part.

this is madness:) hahaha

[SirDevinMiles]

The mans a genius...

[madalfred87]

great, awesome, divine.

[DavidGilmourrocks]

Guthrie Changed the way i looked at guitar...now if only i could play like him >_>

[asshairman09]

everyone stfu about pertucci, just watch the fucking clip

[timward1989]

thanks for filming this :)

[flord23]

AHH when will the day come when people stop comparing guitarists!!! hes the best no hes the best etc etc etc

[preludioenigmatico]

this guys good, but he sounds as if he just sat around listening to Greg Howe, MacAlpine, Gilbert, Carlton some jazz lessons then you get this over and over again on every tune.

[yessmancrimson]

I used to have a cat before I heard this guy.

[campwater]

gauth obviously is the type of person to hear what he likes in other guitarists and subcontiously picks up/tunes in to whatever sounds good to him. Thats how influence works, and where would we be without that to progress us musically.

[edgarallenhoe]

I listen to all those dudes...do the jazz lessons...and I'm no Guthrie Govan.

[immortalx50]

Petrucci ia a picking robot? lol man, go listern to 'Suspended animation'! the album has its soul

and cant be described as a simple shred stuff...

though Petrucci sometimes goes insane and picks 2000000 notes per second(especially in DT), he's still great as a musican and composer

[HopePoisoned]

nah that album blew hard, listen to some of the earlier DT stuff if you want to see Petrucci at his best - Metropolis, Part II is pretty good

[tenaciousjp]

YES Hopepoisoned,

i also suggest Liquid Tension Experiment like universal mind, but all in fairness i perfer Govan over petrucci but dont get me wrong petrucci is amazing as well.

[HopePoisoned]

yeah im a huge fan of LTE, John Petrucci's style on those 2 albums was just the best - 2 of my favorites, I love Guthrie to pieces also, but some of my favorite playing is in LTE, but some of my other favorite playing is Guthrie - i'm not very comparitive, and i don't really like the stuff petrucci plays nowadays (bland anyone? just my opinion though, i also hate his EB guitars and his tone in his recent work)

[progmetaller91]

immortalx50 - (i know this is going to get me bad feedback but i don't care) In all fairness, if you listen to a lot of Petrucci, and believe me, I have, then you start to see he is actually quite sloppy when he plays at extremely high speeds. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but if you look at it purely on technical ability, Guthrie is just as talented and he has an extremely clean technique. However, there's more to it than that, but Guthrie has feel too.

[StringKiller]

you don't have to listen to a lot of petrucci, just watch some improvisation with G3 and you'll see he's not very good at high speed lines... however in the early years of dream theater I think he was much better... (govan for presindet!)

[Alienxfb14]

Wow. I'm suprised you said that. I mean, I'm interested that that is your opinion. I am a huge fan of Guthrie and Petrucci, but I have to disagree with that. I think John really excells with fast, high-speed lines. Not to say Guthrie doesn't, but they're styles are different. John's my favorite player out there, but I think Guthrie definately is better at improv. That's probably why he hasn't been invited to a G3. He'd make everyone else look stupid!!!

[StringKiller]

I said that becouse when you hear petrucci going fast you hear a lot of doblenotes and missed notes, when he prepares one of his songs he can nail it pretty well but when improvising petrucci tends to do sloppy fast lines. Govan plays at high-speeds but always hit the notes correctly, if he doesn't go faster, is because he knows he will miss notes if he does. look for foxy lady with paul gilbert, satriani, and pretucci... and you'll see how petrucci uses the same licks over and over again.

[Lesia44]

Petrucci's fast line are really forced and mechanical, a real kind of 'cramming it in' sort of thing rather than a musical outpouring.

[InVaZi0n]

Petrucci is boring...he stands in one spot, plays his songs, then leaves...wtf is that...?

[drix01]

what you want him to do ? fucking break dance ?

[scenesfromamemory801]

and what do you do when you play? jump the rope? or maybe do push ups while playing yer guitar?

[kotzen081]

thats why they dont want Richie Kotzen on G3

i read that Paul wanted him in a G3 but something about Satch and JP kinda said no

probably because if they got Kotzen then either JP or JS wouldnt be in it and come on Satch started the g3 thing i think so i understand why he should be in it but JP come on enough lets see some faces that never really get seen such as Marty Friedman,Richie Kotzen,Goncalo Pereria,Greg Howe,Al Di Meola,Kiko Loureiro and Dave Martone

there are so man great players

[scenesfromamemory801]

that might not be the only reason knowing that when kotzen was in poison, he stole the drummers girlfriend, how do you do that to a band mate? anyway... you do make some sense but not 100%

[kotzen081]

what dose that have to do with G3? besides i think every one is mature enough respect one anthers love one including Kotzens

you do make some sense but that was like 15 years ago is every one going to think he steels drummers ladies or something?

[haserhud]

Pure inspiration.

[ice9001]

Genius is all to rare .

[thelordofthestrings]

g3 would be great exposure for guthrie, though to be on the g3 tour you need to bring a large fanbase.

[Walls1441]

yeah, thats what sucks. He could play circles around Satriani and Vai.

[gregpaszynski]

You get some real twats going to G3 concerts, in Britain anyway. I saw one with Robert Fripp, and because he did is synth stuff (from the guitar); amazing haronies and soundscapes, the twats started booing because ith didn't sound like guitar and he didn't widdle at all. It's sickening.

[prasiddha]

Yeah, I feel so sorry for Fripp. Every time I read a fan review of Fripp in G3, there is a complaint about how boring his set was.

I personally love sound scapes. A lot of shit heads do not have the patience to listen to Fripp's soundscapes and digest the nuances of the music.

[1thousandstrats]

he couldn't do G3. he'd make the other two look bad.

[innovativefunction]

just give me goosebumps man, he's the best man and hard as hell to play his songs

[prasiddha]

At 3:01, the song goes into HARD ROCK HEAVEN!!!!!

I wonder why Govan didn't add that extended break-down section in the song Sevens in the album...he only does that live.

[progmetaller91]

that is on Sevens on the album, it's just that the solo is different

[prasiddha]

My bad. I meant to say that those single guitar 'twitches' on the breakdown that lead to the guitar solo aren't as loud on the record. Instead, you hear a hypnotic 'keyboard'ish sound.

It sounds much tenser (and better imo) here and on the Tone Merchants vid

[progmetaller91]

Ah, well i'm glad i was at music live when guthrie was there anyway!

[noahisum]

I chose not to go to music live this year.....sooo pissed

[Fishies125]

Oh I can totally play as good as him and better........in my dreams.

[MasterZachary]

As an accomplished musician I can confidently say that none of the "G3" players even come close to touching Govan's technicality, versatility, or plain out tastiness. Sorry Satriani fan's... someone is better believe it or not.

[noahisum]

fancy seeing you here...

[sa7sul]

I think that's not true. Eric Johnson is also a monster in guitar playing and of course as a musician. Vai and Satch are way equal. Petrucci is a picking-robot, Gilbert is an One-Trick-Pony with a lot taste but he stucks in a Am, Em rut. Maybe his next Instrumental album will lead a way out.

I'm kinda glad, there are Vai, Satch, Petrucci and so on. Because without them Guthrie would sell out his style more quickly.

[tallica777]

holdworth can touch only a few aspects of guthries playing-guthrie is just too compitent in EVERY style

[Baustrophedonic]

guthries still early in his carrer, hopefully he'll hit a point similar to holdsworths passing from prog rock to impossible fusion will truly go beyond to the untouchable realm of innovation few have ascended to, god knows we can always use a few more like that to keep us going forward.

[louisguitarslinger]

Guthrie is only early in his carrer? Guthrie was getting offers to be signed to Shrapnel in the early nineties! His carrer is 15 or so years on so being 'early in his carreer' is a bit rich!

[UncleRob199]

I'm hoping this guy will one day be on the G3 tour with Satch, Vai etc. or maybe he's too good?...

[beatallica]

and going on to the G3 would prove what? that he's as good as Satch/Vai/Yngiwe?

[UncleRob199]

I would just like that to happen cos I enjoy all of those guitarists music. Prove? The G3 is a concert, not a court case, as far as i'm aware.

[Jasonjk74]

^

"The G3 is a concert, not a court case, as far as i'm aware."

Hahahahaa, exactly!

[Utubesuxmycock]

he is too good

u noob

[shreddie7799]

awesome. guthrie's already a legend. stupendous talent.

[ElectrickFingers]

No one can touch Guthrie except for Holdsworth.

[SamTheBrit]

great stuff guthrie is one of the best ever

[Lewishred]

Got any more videos of Guthrie?

[grimsbysonlyhippo]

Nah, sorry this is the only one I got cos my arm hurt from holding my phone for seven minutes! I also just wanted to watch, he was awesome and a great guy.

[Lewishred]

cool! I went on the saturday(4th), when Guthrie was on the cornford stand. I met him, hes a really cool dude.

[thelordofthestrings]

bravo!

[FRETPICK]

Guthrie is THE MAN!!!!

FRETPICK

[thisperishedmin]

Guthries already there and quickly surpassing them IMO

[Noobshire]

I've only just discovered Guthrie and he is getting on for joining the Hall of Legends with the likes of Vai/Holdsworth/Satch/et al