Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to get this running at anything like a similar speed on an overclocked Pentium 4 with enought ram? (Not that'd I'd ever try to overclock my CPU - knowing my luck I'd probably just end up with a black charcoal shaped lump on my motherboard that used be the CPU!)
The Sega Model 3 board has "Blast Processing"... MAME doesn't. So what does "Blast Processing" do? (I said that because MAME can't emulate M3 games well)
This never saw a console release because at the time, Sony held the rights to include Porche cars in console racing games. Sony went on to release Porche Challenge for the PS1. Also, at the time this was released, the Saturn wasn't up to the job of handling this graphically, Daytona USA being an example.
the saturn had the ability to gain more power (i cant say it any better) with that extra cartridge (king of fighters had it). maybe with that it would have been possible to make a good adaptation.
I think Sega did a Scud Race tech demo during the development of the Dreamcast. They could have ported it early in the Dreamcasts life if Sega wanted.
I would love Sega to come back into the hardware market! Perhaps aimed at the more casual market against Wii but i think they should do a huge download service of complete arcade perfect titles of theirs and others.
I've started a Facebook campaign to try and encourage them to do this. Only trouble is no one seems to be joining it so far... Just search for Scud Race on Facebook and you should find it. Maybe we can get Sega to do something about it if enough people join up.
Because this was a model 3 arcade game. Saturn struggled with Model 2 games so not a chance would Sega try to port something as demanding as Scud Race to the poor Saturn. It would melt !!
Of course SEGA consoles and especially their Arcade systems were waaaay ahead of its time! PS2 and Xbox look like previous gen consoles compared to Model 3!
@sybnios Total rubbish, the PS2 and Xbox 1 are far more powerful then Model 3. Even the Dreamcast is more powerful then Model 3. The Dreamcast is a Sega Naomi machine, but with half the system ram.
@ojideagu the dreamcast was infact weaker than model 3. Sega switched to Naomi because of 1.It was cheaper to produce and was 90% as good and 2. because the hardware very very simular to a DC porting arcade games was much easier. Did you see the scud race tech demo vid? Its not as good as the arcade original. Neither were VF3 or Sega rally 2, all model 3 games.
@keironewoodgate The pure hardware of Naomi is more powerful than model 3, fact. The only advantage Model 3 had was the Rom size could be expanded to larger than the Dreamcast. Other than that the Dreamcast was more powerful than model 3.
@ojideagu If the point you are trying to make is that on paper the DC specs where higher than that's an irrelevant statement. I can gives you dozens of examples where this doesn't plan out, e.g a core 2 quad at 3ghz isn't as fast as an I7 at the same speed or the Xbox vs gamecube CPU's. The fact is the DC just wasn't able to produce some of the effects model 3 could and AM2 have even been quoted say exactly that.
Remember to run the i686 optimized version if you have an Intel processor, and use the -mt switch if you have a multicore CPU. Makes the difference between running like crap and running okay on mine.
With Virtual On announced for XBLA and Sega's renewal of classic licenses, there's no better time than now. Let's just hope they listen to the fans. This game is too good not to get a release on home consoles. They don't even have to tweak the graphics, music or physics, they still hold up well over a decade later.
I did try it late last week, it wouldnt start the game, but i could go into the options and set them. I have an AMD 4000 CPU and 2 gigs of ram, so id be very suprised if i have the power to run it, although Scud Race does run, Star Wars did not.
I managed to get Star Wars running on my PC (don't have a clue what my machine's specs are in terms or CPU & RAM) and it seemed to run at about 1 frame a second (so pretty much unplayable) and a lot of the polygons seemed to have lost their texture. Also, for some weird reason on the level select screen all the writing was reversed.
this was 6 months ago. Was there an improvement of the emulation speed in this game and Daytona USA 2? if the answer is "yes", which is the name of the MAME version?
I think you have to run the "Australia" version one. And the first time you run it you have to go into the little bios and set it to "single" cabinet so it doesnt try to network with another machine. I could be wrong, its been a while since I tried this game.
they have a long way to go before MAME is able to run Scud Race /Super GT to the point where it looks as good (graphics, textures, effects) and runs as good (framerate) as the MODEL3-based arcade
liol Insert coin, coin slot in computer.
720942008 8 months ago
dreamcast is weaker, you douche
sangwria 10 months ago
AUTOMATIC??? you twit nobody uses automatic anymore its for fat people who cant drive. are u one of them? I THINK SO!!!
scorpiovirgolibra 1 year ago
please how i can configure joystick xbox 360 in this game???
gonzaaaaaa22 1 year ago
how such an old game can show this amazing graphics?
johnnie9011 1 year ago
@johnnie9011 You'd know it looks much better than this if you played it in an arcade. Model3 was way ahead of its time.
pr0newbie 1 year ago
@pr0newbie The Dreamcast which came out only 2 years later is more powerful then Model 3.
Go and look at the specs. It is based on the Sega Naomi which came after model 3.
ojideagu 11 months ago
@ojideagu YOu dont know shit faggot
StonedAssassinNZL 7 months ago
@StonedAssassinNZL Look it up yourself dick head
ojideagu 7 months ago
@ojideagu YOu know there are different Model 3 steps? you still dumbas fuck,
StonedAssassinNZL 7 months ago
@johnnie9011 The Dreamcast was only 2 years older and had graphics as good as this. It was more powerful.
ojideagu 11 months ago
@johnnie9011 I know it was truely incredible. Remember ps1 and saturn were only a year or so old at this time.
keironewoodgate 9 months ago
Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to get this running at anything like a similar speed on an overclocked Pentium 4 with enought ram? (Not that'd I'd ever try to overclock my CPU - knowing my luck I'd probably just end up with a black charcoal shaped lump on my motherboard that used be the CPU!)
MrThunderwing 1 year ago
SR 1 and @ should be on psn n live aswell!! theyd make a killin!! ;D
toweleeielite 1 year ago
This game is a hardware "noami" o saturn arcade?
UsernameRaciel 1 year ago
@UsernameRaciel no, it's sega model-3, more powerful than naomi (dreamcast)
sangwria 1 year ago
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UsernameRaciel 1 year ago
Daytona?
Just sucks ball!
LatisARG 1 year ago
The Sega Model 3 board has "Blast Processing"... MAME doesn't. So what does "Blast Processing" do? (I said that because MAME can't emulate M3 games well)
paulsbuck5 2 years ago
This never saw a console release because at the time, Sony held the rights to include Porche cars in console racing games. Sony went on to release Porche Challenge for the PS1. Also, at the time this was released, the Saturn wasn't up to the job of handling this graphically, Daytona USA being an example.
borobengal 2 years ago
the saturn had the ability to gain more power (i cant say it any better) with that extra cartridge (king of fighters had it). maybe with that it would have been possible to make a good adaptation.
<3 saturn
tonyclifton51 1 year ago 2
could i pl have a link to download this version of mame?
lordurias 2 years ago
@lordurias, google it, stupid! always try, and THEN ask for help! its on MAME official site...
costa9lo 1 year ago
I think Sega did a Scud Race tech demo during the development of the Dreamcast. They could have ported it early in the Dreamcasts life if Sega wanted.
I would love Sega to come back into the hardware market! Perhaps aimed at the more casual market against Wii but i think they should do a huge download service of complete arcade perfect titles of theirs and others.
dreamcast98 2 years ago 12
it would be great if Sega put Scud Race and Daytona2 in Live and PSN
GameshitSTAFF 2 years ago 3
I've started a Facebook campaign to try and encourage them to do this. Only trouble is no one seems to be joining it so far... Just search for Scud Race on Facebook and you should find it. Maybe we can get Sega to do something about it if enough people join up.
MrThunderwing 2 years ago
PSN, or XBOX live arcade ;)
sowifo1979 1 year ago
Why sega never ported this to the Saturn??
NIGEL520 2 years ago
It was supposed to come to the Dreamcast but Dreamcast got canned
ninelivecat 2 years ago
Because this was a model 3 arcade game. Saturn struggled with Model 2 games so not a chance would Sega try to port something as demanding as Scud Race to the poor Saturn. It would melt !!
xtremecoasters 2 years ago
WTF are u smoking?
pachinko1972 2 years ago
I can`t believe that not even the ps2 and xbox1 can handle this 1996 game.That model board 3 was ahead of its time.
barlog20 2 years ago 2
Of course SEGA consoles and especially their Arcade systems were waaaay ahead of its time! PS2 and Xbox look like previous gen consoles compared to Model 3!
sybnios 2 years ago
@sybnios Total rubbish, the PS2 and Xbox 1 are far more powerful then Model 3. Even the Dreamcast is more powerful then Model 3. The Dreamcast is a Sega Naomi machine, but with half the system ram.
ojideagu 11 months ago
@ojideagu the dreamcast was infact weaker than model 3. Sega switched to Naomi because of 1.It was cheaper to produce and was 90% as good and 2. because the hardware very very simular to a DC porting arcade games was much easier. Did you see the scud race tech demo vid? Its not as good as the arcade original. Neither were VF3 or Sega rally 2, all model 3 games.
keironewoodgate 9 months ago
@keironewoodgate The pure hardware of Naomi is more powerful than model 3, fact. The only advantage Model 3 had was the Rom size could be expanded to larger than the Dreamcast. Other than that the Dreamcast was more powerful than model 3.
ojideagu 7 months ago
NAOMI Specifications CPU: Hitachi SH-4 CPU with graphic functions and 128-bit SIMD @ 200 MHz (360 MIPS and 1.4 GFLOPS) Graphic Engine: PowerVR 2 (PVR2DC) Sound Engine: ARM7 Yamaha AICA 45 MHz (with internal 32-bit RISC CPU, 64 channel ADPCM) Main Memory: 32 MByte Graphic Memory: 16 MByte Sound Memory: 8 MByte
ojideagu 7 months ago
Model 3 Specifications Main CPU: IBM PowerPC 603 @ 66, 100, 166 MHz Graphics Chip: 2× Lockheed Martin Real3D/Pro-1000 Sound CPU : Motorola 68EC000 @ 11.3 MHz Sound Chip: 2× Yamaha SCSP/YMF292-F 128-step DSP, MIDI interface, 64 voices, 4 channel, maximum of 16.5 MB ROM, 64 PCM channels Main RAM: 8 MB Audio RAM: 1 MB
ojideagu 7 months ago
@ojideagu If the point you are trying to make is that on paper the DC specs where higher than that's an irrelevant statement. I can gives you dozens of examples where this doesn't plan out, e.g a core 2 quad at 3ghz isn't as fast as an I7 at the same speed or the Xbox vs gamecube CPU's. The fact is the DC just wasn't able to produce some of the effects model 3 could and AM2 have even been quoted say exactly that.
keironewoodgate 7 months ago
Remember to run the i686 optimized version if you have an Intel processor, and use the -mt switch if you have a multicore CPU. Makes the difference between running like crap and running okay on mine.
pigpenthegreat 2 years ago
runs kinda clunky...suppose to be breezin' in or around 40-60 frames a sec..
rnd323 2 years ago
your cpu is the shit! but your gpu sucks
Sasuke0245 2 years ago
Holy shit! With that extreme setup, the game looks like this?? I'll never be able to run it then
fabriciozu 2 years ago
i wish would take the next step of 3D-emulation.....
mAAAAguz 2 years ago
impossivel, qual o processador pra rodar isso???
geraldogb 2 years ago
what setup are you using and mame version plugins etc?
runs tons better than mine :(
skizza83 2 years ago
still slow on mame... :(
kensou13 2 years ago
i wish they would bring this to XBOXLA i miss this game
irwintorres727 3 years ago 7
With Virtual On announced for XBLA and Sega's renewal of classic licenses, there's no better time than now. Let's just hope they listen to the fans. This game is too good not to get a release on home consoles. They don't even have to tweak the graphics, music or physics, they still hold up well over a decade later.
MrLongrobe 3 years ago 3
The graphic card is not important to Mame. Only fast cpu is the way.
losc59ultra 3 years ago 2
That is only true for some games, games like these ones it does matter. I know it matters for the Model 2 emulator
redSKORPION50 2 years ago
Model 2 Emulator (Nebula) is not MAME.
GameshitSTAFF 2 years ago
In order for an emulator to run complex 3D graphics, it will require a video card capable of diplaying them.
But youre dead right, Nebula is not MAME, cause Nebula can Model 2 games properly and with link up multiplayer, and MAME cant.
redSKORPION50 2 years ago 2
wasn't Sega Gt/Scud Race Model 3?..will a model 2 emu due to run this?
rnd323 2 years ago
was stars wars trilogy ever playable? which MAME version? which romset?
aribai 3 years ago
I did try it late last week, it wouldnt start the game, but i could go into the options and set them. I have an AMD 4000 CPU and 2 gigs of ram, so id be very suprised if i have the power to run it, although Scud Race does run, Star Wars did not.
redSKORPION50 2 years ago
I managed to get Star Wars running on my PC (don't have a clue what my machine's specs are in terms or CPU & RAM) and it seemed to run at about 1 frame a second (so pretty much unplayable) and a lot of the polygons seemed to have lost their texture. Also, for some weird reason on the level select screen all the writing was reversed.
MrThunderwing 2 years ago
if you hold the windows key and press pause/break at the same time itll tell you in the system properties, itll be at the bottom.
redSKORPION50 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the tip.
MrThunderwing 2 years ago
No worries ;)
redSKORPION50 2 years ago
Thanks for the tip I never knew that until now.
DDRFreak410 2 years ago
No worries mate :)
redSKORPION50 2 years ago
this was 6 months ago. Was there an improvement of the emulation speed in this game and Daytona USA 2? if the answer is "yes", which is the name of the MAME version?
SuperSZ 3 years ago
Model3 emulation was rewritten in 0.125 and 0.129. By now this is the fastest version.
GameshitSTAFF 2 years ago
Any videos of that version running the game?
Ashura96 2 years ago
can u give me the link for the emulator and SCUD race thx
ifartwelI 3 years ago
cant wait till the day they emulate initial d.
wiona123456 3 years ago
podrias dar la web para descargar el emu por lo menos si dices que corre bien y tratar de compartir!
gustavoariasjara 3 years ago
The car models in this game look amazing.
rikhanz 3 years ago
I have Mame .119 and the rom, but I can't get it to load at all. Any suggestions?
MarkFrankJPN 3 years ago
I think you have to run the "Australia" version one. And the first time you run it you have to go into the little bios and set it to "single" cabinet so it doesnt try to network with another machine. I could be wrong, its been a while since I tried this game.
Bigtymer781 3 years ago
Although it may not be an arcade perfect emulation it is clearly a step in the right direction.
I am so looking forward to be playing Daytona USA 2 someday!!!!
9cx 3 years ago
You Need to INSERT COIN(S) to play
vietqt19 3 years ago
hope someday release a dedicated model 3 emulator, MAME requires a NASA computer to play this game in good frame-rate.
mvbl 3 years ago
Holy cow!
Eric4372 3 years ago
they have a long way to go before MAME is able to run Scud Race /Super GT to the point where it looks as good (graphics, textures, effects) and runs as good (framerate) as the MODEL3-based arcade
airraideagle 3 years ago
HOW CAN I GET THIS TO PLAY ON MAME
sonicsuperstarprince 3 years ago
Check my other video ("How to play Model 3 games in Mame 0.119"). Bye.
GameshitSTAFF 2 years ago
"No sound emulated"
GameshitSTAFF 3 years ago
where's the sound?
PHILIP019 3 years ago