Theres a church in Bay Shore called the United Methodist Church...And theres a clock tower and only one clock on the front the other 3 sides have nothing...SO one day I drove by there and the clock was frozen at 12:30 and I stood there for a whole hour once and the bell never rang...Its been silent and the clock has been frozen at 12:30 for 3 years already and the cool thing is theres a light tht goes on behind the clock at night...So when I drove by last night? The clock worked the bell rang =D
If none of these work, remove the right-side cover and find the back of block #43. There will be two sets of allen screws which adjust the pickups. Turn the screws on the lower set counter-clockwise a half-turn or so, then try again. Repeat until the sound of the F# matches the neighboring notes. Hope this helps. Nice to hear one of these older electro-acoustic instruments being restored. Cheers!
@tothedunes Thanks for all the great info and tips. Since this was filmed, the tech guy came back out and did some tweaking. Now, it's perfect :) See my latest video (also of a different roll) and you should be able to hear the difference.
Check inside the box marked "Octave 2." Remove the left-side cover. Locate block #43 - that is the F# which is the dead note in the hour chime. The missing tone is from the shorter rod (RH side of the block). Look at where the rods emerge from the block; the hammer head is down there. Twist it back and forth to free it, then position it so it is perpendicular both rods. Also check that the shorter rod is not popped out of its stabilizer, that there are two wires going to pickups.
In a Schulmerich "Flemish" (AKA "Arlington") carillon, each note is actually produced by TWO rods struck simultaneoulsly by a small hammer. The "dead" note which occurs as the third note in the Westminster Chime is likely caused by one of four things: a pickup which is adjusted two far away from the rod, a rod which is out of its stabilizer springs, a broken wire from the rod to the pickup, or a hammer head which is stuck at an angle and not striking both rods. All easy fixes. Good luck!
I think there is something inside of the carillon. There might be rods (flemish and harp bell rods) in the carillon. Also, can you post the video of the roll player, and how it moves?
@wurlitzer165 The Schulmerich electronic carillon uses "capacitance" pick-ups on the bell rods. The design is very similar to that used in a Condenser Microphone with a B+ voltage of around 250VDC on the pick up plate and bell rod.
I'll post a video soon of the actual carillon. There really isn't anything on the inside to see but a bunch of wires, etc. Yes, we've noticed there are some dead notes and plan on addressing that. The person who repaired it is supposed to be coming back soon to do some more tweaking and adjusting, along with fixing the dead notes.
@wurlitzer165 Dead notes of the westminster are easily remedied by polishing the coder dial gold buttons with NevrDull, to clean away the tarnish, wipe it clean with a dry soft cloth then spraying them with Caig DeOxit Gold.
@Xerox6085I Correction. After polishing the gold buttons with the NevrDull. Let it dry to a white haze (like car paste wax), then wipe the residue off with a clean soft cloth. Then spray the coder gold buttons with Caig DeOxit Gold Spray 5%
Yes, I'm about to post one more video for now. The carillon plays on a roll format. More videos to come after pentecost, then we can change from the Easter roll. Yes, there is also a special occasion ringing or "bell peal" which I haven't experimented with yet. There is still some tewaking that needs to be done. The carillon has only been working literally about 2.5 weeks now.
Could you post more of the carillon? And also, is there a special occasion ringing, besides the westminster and the playing of songs? What format is it? Is it cartridge, or rolls?
Theres a church in Bay Shore called the United Methodist Church...And theres a clock tower and only one clock on the front the other 3 sides have nothing...SO one day I drove by there and the clock was frozen at 12:30 and I stood there for a whole hour once and the bell never rang...Its been silent and the clock has been frozen at 12:30 for 3 years already and the cool thing is theres a light tht goes on behind the clock at night...So when I drove by last night? The clock worked the bell rang =D
Magicking788 1 year ago
Your new videos do indeed sound much better! Congratulations and good luck with your instrument.
tothedunes 1 year ago
If none of these work, remove the right-side cover and find the back of block #43. There will be two sets of allen screws which adjust the pickups. Turn the screws on the lower set counter-clockwise a half-turn or so, then try again. Repeat until the sound of the F# matches the neighboring notes. Hope this helps. Nice to hear one of these older electro-acoustic instruments being restored. Cheers!
tothedunes 1 year ago
@tothedunes Thanks for all the great info and tips. Since this was filmed, the tech guy came back out and did some tweaking. Now, it's perfect :) See my latest video (also of a different roll) and you should be able to hear the difference.
adalb137 1 year ago
Check inside the box marked "Octave 2." Remove the left-side cover. Locate block #43 - that is the F# which is the dead note in the hour chime. The missing tone is from the shorter rod (RH side of the block). Look at where the rods emerge from the block; the hammer head is down there. Twist it back and forth to free it, then position it so it is perpendicular both rods. Also check that the shorter rod is not popped out of its stabilizer, that there are two wires going to pickups.
tothedunes 1 year ago
In a Schulmerich "Flemish" (AKA "Arlington") carillon, each note is actually produced by TWO rods struck simultaneoulsly by a small hammer. The "dead" note which occurs as the third note in the Westminster Chime is likely caused by one of four things: a pickup which is adjusted two far away from the rod, a rod which is out of its stabilizer springs, a broken wire from the rod to the pickup, or a hammer head which is stuck at an angle and not striking both rods. All easy fixes. Good luck!
tothedunes 1 year ago
Could you please post a video of the carillon working? Thanks.
wurlitzer165 1 year ago
@wurlitzer165 - Yes, I will do that...keep meaning to. Bear with me...need to make one!
adalb137 1 year ago
Yes, you are absolutely correct. We have flemish and harp bell rods. I'll post a video of both that and the roll player very soon.
adalb137 1 year ago
I think there is something inside of the carillon. There might be rods (flemish and harp bell rods) in the carillon. Also, can you post the video of the roll player, and how it moves?
wurlitzer165 1 year ago
@wurlitzer165 The Schulmerich electronic carillon uses "capacitance" pick-ups on the bell rods. The design is very similar to that used in a Condenser Microphone with a B+ voltage of around 250VDC on the pick up plate and bell rod.
Xerox6085I 1 year ago
I'll post a video soon of the actual carillon. There really isn't anything on the inside to see but a bunch of wires, etc. Yes, we've noticed there are some dead notes and plan on addressing that. The person who repaired it is supposed to be coming back soon to do some more tweaking and adjusting, along with fixing the dead notes.
adalb137 1 year ago
Can you post the inner workings of the carillon when it goes off every hour? and also, how come there are some dead notes?
wurlitzer165 1 year ago
@wurlitzer165 Dead notes of the westminster are easily remedied by polishing the coder dial gold buttons with NevrDull, to clean away the tarnish, wipe it clean with a dry soft cloth then spraying them with Caig DeOxit Gold.
Xerox6085I 1 year ago
@Xerox6085I Correction. After polishing the gold buttons with the NevrDull. Let it dry to a white haze (like car paste wax), then wipe the residue off with a clean soft cloth. Then spray the coder gold buttons with Caig DeOxit Gold Spray 5%
Xerox6085I 1 year ago
Yes, I'm about to post one more video for now. The carillon plays on a roll format. More videos to come after pentecost, then we can change from the Easter roll. Yes, there is also a special occasion ringing or "bell peal" which I haven't experimented with yet. There is still some tewaking that needs to be done. The carillon has only been working literally about 2.5 weeks now.
adalb137 1 year ago
Could you post more of the carillon? And also, is there a special occasion ringing, besides the westminster and the playing of songs? What format is it? Is it cartridge, or rolls?
wurlitzer165 1 year ago