in all seriousness I like it with the horde being ragtag its kinda how it goes your always gunna be the under dogs and you would all be lying if you disagreed with that being the main thing that made you want to roll horde :)
I'm alliance Get out of my country! Get back in ya portal and bugger off WE ARE FULL! Go back to your piece of flying rock that you cant take care of!
So wait the alliance claimed all this stuff back so near the one of the horde major city's? How and why? Is there a story behind this new outcome? If so plz tell :) and one more thing. Does it really seem wise to build EVERYTHING in the same exact locations? I mean it didn't work out in that spot the last time around... :P
the alliance sure does have a strong foothold on Azeroth as of Cataclysm and ive seen alot of cata vids so far, i think the horde (including me) are gonna have some fun raiding
it's hard to say from an old horde member.... but the alliance is really making an impressive work in rebuilding that pile of ruins wich were Andorhal.
I guess now humans would have learned the lesson to pay attention to suspicious grain supplies...
The lordareon was my favorite when playing the old classic WoW. I stopped after TBC though cause I thought it went downhill. But now, seeing them brining back the old instances etc, really makes me concider getting it again. so far nice work Blizz!
here's to looking forward to sylvanas making a killing and raising the slain as forsaken, turned against their brethren. the dark lady can now bolster her people's numbers with necromancy by Val'kyr which compensates for the lack of procreation ability. the Forsaken's lack of the ability to procreate to repopulate puts the forsaken at an advantage, but Sylvanas compensates with former scourge, val'kyr serving the Horde is a major help.
i kinda liked undead before but now they have gone to far... ewerywhere they go and make a town they need stupid plague clouds around them... whats up with that? douchebag behaviour, shouldnt touren get all pissy and give them sum shit ond the horde counceling sessions, hell ewen other races probably dislike that... go cows go ! ^^
is that Vrykul or night elf buildings being built in the alliance part of Andorhal? BTW i like the styling of the buildings in the forsaken part of Andorhal.
@MrDozah Bolvar took control of the scourge but he was strong willed so he basicaly told the scourge to fuck off so now they're pushed way back into the northern parts of EPL around stratholme who knows maybe we will once again take stratholme as a major city
@Celestian805 Ye, and that the Scarlet Crusade seem to be almost completley gone from the zone, nice to see actuall physical changes that correlate with a progressing storyline for a change :)
@InTact01 yes this was human lands.... but the majority of the humans were transformed in undead. They used to life their lives. it's their lands. The human's that now inhabit these lands are mostly from the kingdom of azeroth. so they are the foreign peeps. The argent crusade has many lordearon citizens but they accept forsaken in their ranks. the only place where the alliance prevails is andorhall. however the forsaken are still a force that inhabit Andorhall.
@valvagia77 if not racial. i think the lordaeron was founded as a kingdom on values that the bitter forsaken have left behind, hence my case is that if not fully racial heritage its an ethical one, sorry for spelling, unsure of grammar :)
@Dexter4410 When it was ally lands, the current forsaken owned it. So I think it's rightfully the Forsaken's land. The Alliance are just trying to ninja it.
Looks very interesting. From what I've seen overall, there are going to be a lot more flight paths in old places! I think WPL is going to be hotly contested territory - Yes it is within Horde lands/reach, but before the Scourge it was Alliance.
Let's also keep in mind - If there's anything Midsummer Festival has shown us, it's that Alliance have +2 bases in Azeroth, I'm thinking with all the losses and gains we are going to see in Cataclysm, things will be on a more even scale.
Hm I like the Plaguelands within the Scourge... Sure they look much better than but they are no longer real "PLAGUE"-lands...It reminds me at Caves of time 4.. they look just like Elwynn! A peaceful scenery without war and grief.. there's nearly no adventure feeling <.< You don't feel like in a dangerous environment...
was looking at the undead side of the town and something hit me...why is it the forsaken are using biological wepons (note the plauge cloud hanging over their part (which would kill any humans trying to attack there) but the alliance so far hasn`t come up with some super wepon of their own. i mean cmon im sure the gnomes could whip up a nuke or something
@killadingahopper Hearthglen is a town in the northern area of the former kingdom of Lordaeron, located north of Andorhal, in an area now known as the Western Plaguelands. The town (and formerly the region) was ruled over by Tirion Fordring.
You could refer to Hearthglen(region) as a province part of the Lordaeron Kingdom.
the plaguelands belong to the Horde! it's still Lordaeron and the residents didnt move out despite being undead! they have freedom and a will of their own and they chose to side with the Horde! DEATH TO THE ALLIANCE! FOR THE HORDE!
NOW GETT OUT OF THE PLAGUELANDS YOU BLUE FLAG QUEERMOS!
Ashenvale belong to the night elves but that doesnt stop the orces to cut down thier lovly forest, btw im a horde player, but love alliance of the lodaeron lore
@slayerskugan well the Horde needs lumber, and the night elves took to war rather than seeking diplomacy, so it's kinda everyone's fault for not reaching an understanding. Varian is a Despot and a jackass thinking he has some right claiming Lordaeron, that's Horde turf now, the alliance needs to step the fuck off Horde turf!
@RAPTOR948 to be fair...i dont think people from Stormwind are the ones hes "reclaiming" it for...there are plenty of still living Lordaeron refugees who reside in both Stormwind, and all the people in Theramore come from Lordaeron as well...they have every right to be there as the Forsaken do
@CBleck be that as it may, the forsaken didnt leave their homes, the refugees did, you cant just remove people still living in an area just because of their affliction. the refugees chose to leave, the forsaken were slaughtered in the homes they knew their entire lives, risen to undeath, and now they keep their homes, the refugees who still live and fled from their homes relocated themselves somewhere safer. you cant justify forcing someone from their home because of their affliction.
@RAPTOR948 its not like most of the forsaken had a chance to leave their homes however...its a really complex situation, regardless if they fled they still deserve to live there as much as the Forsaken do, however until now Andorhal has been infested with the Scourge, and with the amount of rebuilding the humans have done as compared to the Forsaken suggests that they probably got their first to rebuild, Im not trying to favor Alliance in this, but knowing their track record, the Forsaken
@CBleck well the forsaken have more right to Tirisfall, Silverpine, the Western and Eastern Plaguelands, they toughed it out despite people fleeing, so it should be devoid of Alliance presence. Varian needs to get that oversized nose out of other people's shit before he finds a dagger in his eye! and I made for certain he had more than a dozen stabs in his eyes as it is. the words "Black War Bear" makes a big difference.
@RAPTOR948 the people of dalaran and pyrewood would like to say hi, they stuck it out as well, most of the ardent dawn is also human all of which who stuck it out too, I fail to see how the forsaken are the only ones who deserve that land...they do deserve it, but both they and the humans really should learn to share. As for Varian, well he does have a stick up his ass, and he knows it, he has tried to give the horde ample opportunities for peace, but Murphy's Law loves to give him the face palm
@RAPTOR948 the people of dalaran and pyrewood would like to say hi, they stuck it out as well, most of the ardent dawn is also human all of which who stuck it out too, I fail to see how the forsaken are the only ones who deserve that land...they do deserve it, but both they and the humans really should learn to share. As for Varian, well he does have a stick up his ass, and he knows it, he has tried to give the horde ample opportunities for peace, but Murphy's Law loves to give him the face palm
@RAPTOR948 there are alliance controlled areas there now and i think humans have as much right as forsaken do to be there anyways since that place is crawling with scourge and arthas was human and created all those scourge in Ep and Wp
plus the forsaken are undead humans in the first place
@superwowman100 yeah but you dont force someone to move out of their home just because they have some sort of affliction. and unlike the Alliance, the Horde has worked to cure the plague of undeath so certain members of the forsaken can return to their human lives. however the forsaken still hold their land dear and shouldnt be forced out by the alliance, it's Horde turf anyways.
@RAPTOR948 dude its definatley NOT 'horde turf' they didnt make it for hord eonly and the forsaken are in tirisfall NOT Eastern OR Western plaguelands and there already have been human controlled areas there since calssic Wow like the argent dawn and ebon blade places they ar eboth working to stop the scourge and there are some quests where you get to cure people and things there in eastern plaguelands there are only a few forsaken there in Ep/Wp
@RAPTOR948 and nowhere have i read about horde cureing forsaken since they CAN'T be cured they were killed and risen as undead to serve the lich king its just like how the deathknights are undead and can't be cured either. and second of all why would the horde want to cure the forsaken back to human in the first place if it meant all the cure dones will have to go back to stormwind and be part of alliance again if they did that for all forsaken there wouldnt be anymore forsaken just humans
@superwowman100 really? The current undead hate humans and if were returned would just be a rogue fraction still with the horde much like blood elves and high elves.
@RAPTOR948 also the alliance DID NOT force them out of their homes they were forced out when Arthas plagued the land but only a few decided to stay and those few are for some quests regardless of the faction where you have to kill them since they stayed with the scourge
@superwowman100 those who are still scourge are beyond the point where their will can break free of enslavement, the forsaken led by sylvanas retook their homes in lordaeron, and sylvanas being a former resident of Quel'thalas, he claimed lordaeron for the people who stayed behind and fought for their freedom.
anyways Tirisfall, the plaguelands, and quel'thalas are Horde turf, the alliance should just back off and bail! Tirion gave up his loyalties to the alliance and look at him now!
@Paladinslord I can understand stepping out of ashenvale, but that was cenarius' call to attack the Horde so viciously rather than walking forth and reaching a diplomatic settlement. but the alliance treaded on Horde turf as it is and has instigated a lot of attacks on the crossroads. the plaguelands are Horde turf though, look what cities border them, both major Horde cities in Eastern Kingdoms.
Alliance needs to move back south of Thandol span!
@RAPTOR948 well i play alliance most of the time and i fully agree with you on the 'varian the racist' comment but about ashenvale like the last person said ashenvale belongs to night elves which are on the alliance but the orcs wont stop invading alli territory because of that and in cataclysm they take over astraanar and your saying that humans dont have a right to step onto forsaken turf where the forsaken used to be humans.
@superwowman100 and the humans in WP aren't even trying to steal rescources (like those ugly vomit green orcs in ashenvale) if you did any of the quest on alliance then youd see that they are just trying to kill the scourge that remained there thus helping horde and alliance it helps alliance since hillsbrad is right next to WP and the scourge could've grown out to there. plus alliance have every right to be there as everyone else cuz its RIGHT NEXT TO HILLSBRAD which is HUMAN territory
@superwowman100 actually, hillsbrad is still part of Lordaeron, and the forsaken still hold ground there.
the alliance bailed to south of the thandol span and blew the bridge out too, Kael'thas, Maiev, and Tyrande were crossing there in persuit of Illidan.
the alliance needs to gtfo of the plaguelands and move back south of the thandol span. Gilneas severed itself from the alliance and opened themselves to Forsaken attacks, and the attack that destroyed camp taurajo unpravoked.
also, if I did lead the Horde, I'd cancel lumber gathering in ashenvale and make the trade with varian of hides for wood. if he turned his back on me I'd tell him to go eat a dick and warn him I'll still be up for the trade, but I wont hesitate to skin him if he tries to back out of the deal now.
okay, I understand Ashenvale is night elf turf, the orcs in a lumber gathering group led by Grom however decided to cut it down, and Cenarius rather than seeking diplomacy with the orcs went to war.
also, if I did lead the Horde, I'd cancel lumber gathering in ashenvale and make the trade with varian of hides for wood. if he turned his back on me I'd tell him to go eat a dick and warn him I'll still be up for the trade, but I wont hesitate to skin him if he tries to back out of the deal now.
okay, I understand Ashenvale is night elf turf, the orcs in a lumber gathering group led by Grom however decided to cut it down, and Cenarius rather than seeking diplomacy with the orcs went to war.
@RAPTOR948 Well, the Alliance does have a good amount of right to the Plaguelands as well. There are a lot of Refugees from the third war who had been living in Stormwind or elsewhere that have just as much right as the forsaken might have. However that being said, the Forsaken are in a way, making a mockery of portions of their former kingdom with that plague and their overall attitude.
@TheQuilanvos Well, what they had in mind here is that Both Ally and Horde are Fighting for Control Over this Area. The Left Side of it is Ally, the Right Side is Horde (Forsaken), and the middle is a War-zone fighting for Control.
eastern plaguelands is mostly controled by argent crusade, all the watch towers has been restored by them, light's chapel is rebuilded and look awsome and more alive now :D i liked andorhal in western but i still wonder if arthas will get a tomb or fancy grave somwhere xP after all he was good guy.
well with the scourge getting back undercontral no wonder peace is being restored back to western plaguelands, i like how it looks i give it a 5/5 with a minus -1 couse i want to see it my sefl :P
but still it looks amasing and im not saying it couse i done all the old quests in that zone but for i liked all the time i spended in that zone, i allso likt to see Lord Uthar's Tome :)
I wish the cataclysm version still had that spooky effect to it still. the atmosphere I mean.
bobalt93 7 months ago
omfg it'a not an alpha..it's a beta
TheCheesepuff6 1 year ago
@TheCheesepuff6 nope, it's alpha
Andhafell 1 year ago
Dude im such a nerd , fucking smiling at this shit lol
KozzieJ 1 year ago
i feel sorry for the comic guys that tried to take andorhal ^_^ they should of waited ill cata
ishallkillall 1 year ago
I smell another Hillsbrad, looking forward to lvl 85s yelling at each other from across the road lol
Omajani 1 year ago
in all seriousness I like it with the horde being ragtag its kinda how it goes your always gunna be the under dogs and you would all be lying if you disagreed with that being the main thing that made you want to roll horde :)
ockerz 1 year ago
I'm alliance Get out of my country! Get back in ya portal and bugger off WE ARE FULL! Go back to your piece of flying rock that you cant take care of!
ockerz 1 year ago
@ockerz Oi the you mean the undead's country. The elves trolls and undead are the only races suited to live in these areas any more.
Alexhackedone 1 year ago
So wait the alliance claimed all this stuff back so near the one of the horde major city's? How and why? Is there a story behind this new outcome? If so plz tell :) and one more thing. Does it really seem wise to build EVERYTHING in the same exact locations? I mean it didn't work out in that spot the last time around... :P
zethkall 1 year ago
the alliance sure does have a strong foothold on Azeroth as of Cataclysm and ive seen alot of cata vids so far, i think the horde (including me) are gonna have some fun raiding
iamforrestgump1 1 year ago
dont rlly fair allianz still to power full and horde to low (im not talking about game play) i mean the citys
Palaschurk 1 year ago
it's hard to say from an old horde member.... but the alliance is really making an impressive work in rebuilding that pile of ruins wich were Andorhal.
I guess now humans would have learned the lesson to pay attention to suspicious grain supplies...
ShinXari 1 year ago
That must be some fine grade maneur to get all that plantation growing from that soil.
Exhaustfume 1 year ago
I'm dissapoint ! T_T my beautiful w plagueland is gettin ugly !
/vote 4 old plaguelands ; ;
DeadbyApfelsaft 1 year ago
OoooophwooOoOOOOoo.....phwooooooOOOOoooOOsh....
TheNickMains 1 year ago
Looks as if the Forsaken are perhaps trying to introduce the new plague into Lordaeron. Out with one plague and in with another :P
HugTower 1 year ago
Does the alliance get this back? Cuz If so... thats TIGHT!
Shadowcloaksb 1 year ago
The lordareon was my favorite when playing the old classic WoW. I stopped after TBC though cause I thought it went downhill. But now, seeing them brining back the old instances etc, really makes me concider getting it again. so far nice work Blizz!
Christoffer424 1 year ago
give it a voice over mate it wil make it a lot better
james123taylor 1 year ago
whoaw it looks relly nice. there are not so many undead there now... and they renewed andorhal! cant wait to play it now! :D
Hordeman89 1 year ago
This makes me smile, that everything is being restored :)
L33tOnlineGamer 1 year ago
here's to looking forward to sylvanas making a killing and raising the slain as forsaken, turned against their brethren. the dark lady can now bolster her people's numbers with necromancy by Val'kyr which compensates for the lack of procreation ability. the Forsaken's lack of the ability to procreate to repopulate puts the forsaken at an advantage, but Sylvanas compensates with former scourge, val'kyr serving the Horde is a major help.
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
Oh noes buildings are still under construction -.-' They'll probably never get done making the job. JUST LIKE IN WESTFALL ! ;O
noobrzlife 1 year ago
they'll probly move the chillwind camp flightpoint, get rid of it i mean
DaveXanderBass 1 year ago
OMG Its green... and full of life... weird to see this xD
KuyaSanya1 1 year ago
I prefer it when its like this got bored of scourge
MikeyRoundBalls 1 year ago
Am I crazy, or is hearthglen covered with argent crusade banners?
thewildone 1 year ago
i kinda liked undead before but now they have gone to far... ewerywhere they go and make a town they need stupid plague clouds around them... whats up with that? douchebag behaviour, shouldnt touren get all pissy and give them sum shit ond the horde counceling sessions, hell ewen other races probably dislike that... go cows go ! ^^
stri9 1 year ago
i rly hate the forsaken ally finally get back some thing n forsaken come and try to take it
bligh56 1 year ago
Boring..
Ludahc 1 year ago
i heard forsaken eventually take Andorhal so i guess that means at least alliance part of Andorhal is going to be plagued again :(
elRubio102 1 year ago
gotta say, having only the sound of distant wind really makes it
sudsy123 1 year ago 12
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What will this area be calleD?
Cokecakepopcorn 1 year ago
Nice to see that uther got some love.
pieextatic123 1 year ago 12
can we call this zone Healed Plaugelands now?
Oothur13Garona 1 year ago
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wowrunner1 1 year ago
oh hell yah an uther's shrine upgrade!!!
bipolarlemon 1 year ago
WOOT ANDORHALL :D and you really cant call it plaguelands anymore no blight an d all
daringger 1 year ago
You should really start talking.. Kinda boring to just see you fly around without saying anything at all
Xynthiaeu 1 year ago
Pretty cool.
Joey33ist 1 year ago
Great.. Anderhol, is the new cold war Berlin.
Trollami 1 year ago
@Trollami more like ww2 O.o
ZombiePlayerz 1 year ago
harde to believe that place was infestedwith undead at one point. btw the actuality of your vids has earned you my sub
sonsal432 1 year ago
is that Vrykul or night elf buildings being built in the alliance part of Andorhal? BTW i like the styling of the buildings in the forsaken part of Andorhal.
bry184 1 year ago
but wheres da scourge?
MrDozah 1 year ago
@MrDozah Chillin in icecrown?
burningvenom 1 year ago
@MrDozah Bolvar took control of the scourge but he was strong willed so he basicaly told the scourge to fuck off so now they're pushed way back into the northern parts of EPL around stratholme who knows maybe we will once again take stratholme as a major city
HirachieOfSociety 1 year ago 2
@HirachieOfSociety idk the sanctuary so correct me im wrong but maybe it is a sanc
HobbsInRoM 1 year ago
i'm kinda liking what they did with WPL and EPL
it makes since
Scourge is now controlled by Bolivar who is simply "jailing" them
so lordaron(sry for spelling) is healing again with scourge missing
perhaps it will become a heavily pvp gound
Forsaken try to sieze it with survivors of Lordaron and those from SW try to reclaim it
not bad
Celestian805 1 year ago
@Celestian805 Ye, and that the Scarlet Crusade seem to be almost completley gone from the zone, nice to see actuall physical changes that correlate with a progressing storyline for a change :)
TyranidsBJ 1 year ago
K blizzard starting to make me mad, we get rid of scourge plague and then forsaken come in and put us back to square one......
kattie280 1 year ago
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Let's do this bitches
Bielocke 1 year ago
FOR LORDAERON FINNALY GTFO FORSAKEN THIS WAS OURS TO BEGIN WITH WOO
InTact01 1 year ago
@InTact01 yes this was human lands.... but the majority of the humans were transformed in undead. They used to life their lives. it's their lands. The human's that now inhabit these lands are mostly from the kingdom of azeroth. so they are the foreign peeps. The argent crusade has many lordearon citizens but they accept forsaken in their ranks. the only place where the alliance prevails is andorhall. however the forsaken are still a force that inhabit Andorhall.
FOR THE FORSAKEN! FOR LORDEARON
valvagia77 1 year ago
@valvagia77 if not racial. i think the lordaeron was founded as a kingdom on values that the bitter forsaken have left behind, hence my case is that if not fully racial heritage its an ethical one, sorry for spelling, unsure of grammar :)
Sandgn0m392 1 year ago
I gonna make a new charr NOW! before all those classic quests are gone, i gonna miss them :(
Deltastealth 1 year ago
sorry, i did not see the forsaken banner xD
TheDevaluation 1 year ago
erm, how do you know that it is the Forsaken and no the remaing scruge they are fighting?
TheDevaluation 1 year ago
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mattybo512 1 year ago
The forsaken have got to get out of the plague lands as before the scourge invaded lordareon these were ally lands. Nice video though :)
Dexter4410 1 year ago
@Dexter4410 yea and since they arent ''alive'' anymore.. there right to the land slipped em right through there bony hands :P
Sandgn0m392 1 year ago
@Dexter4410 When it was ally lands, the current forsaken owned it. So I think it's rightfully the Forsaken's land. The Alliance are just trying to ninja it.
Evilguf 1 year ago
PvP Zone i think it should be
MrMannysChannel 1 year ago
and so the circle closes, the story that began in warcraft 3 is now over, arthas is dead ;(
Bounzer88 1 year ago
where's the sentry totem shrine they promised us? looks nice though
TheSlinkyStudios 1 year ago
@TheSlinkyStudios i think it was the one in the sw video dident catch what it was at first
Sandgn0m392 1 year ago
Looks very interesting. From what I've seen overall, there are going to be a lot more flight paths in old places! I think WPL is going to be hotly contested territory - Yes it is within Horde lands/reach, but before the Scourge it was Alliance.
Let's also keep in mind - If there's anything Midsummer Festival has shown us, it's that Alliance have +2 bases in Azeroth, I'm thinking with all the losses and gains we are going to see in Cataclysm, things will be on a more even scale.
abunaifux0rboi 1 year ago
Hm I like the Plaguelands within the Scourge... Sure they look much better than but they are no longer real "PLAGUE"-lands...It reminds me at Caves of time 4.. they look just like Elwynn! A peaceful scenery without war and grief.. there's nearly no adventure feeling <.< You don't feel like in a dangerous environment...
MrCaradras 1 year ago
@MrCaradras its prob gona be alot of horde vs alliance here with the argent crusade finishing the scourge of
Jake206ify 1 year ago
scourge just got boned hard
warcraftlorenerd 1 year ago
@warcraftlorenerd Rofl.
darkange911 1 year ago
Gnomes should make an Anti-Matter Bomb and blow up the Undercity!! =D
MrMannysChannel 1 year ago
@MrMannysChannel were working on it, the only prob so far is that we dont know how to make it since it demands..anti matter..
Sandgn0m392 1 year ago
Wow, looks like the Alliance have been busy here, They fucked those scourge basterds up!
BigAlzToyStore 1 year ago
was looking at the undead side of the town and something hit me...why is it the forsaken are using biological wepons (note the plauge cloud hanging over their part (which would kill any humans trying to attack there) but the alliance so far hasn`t come up with some super wepon of their own. i mean cmon im sure the gnomes could whip up a nuke or something
sexyhamcake 1 year ago
@sexyhamcake I dont think the gnomes will dare to use nukes anymore since half of their population and their capital city was destroyed by radiation.
But if they managed to lift exodar back to space... I mean the twisting nether, they might have an statliate cannon! (think of ion cannon)
gspbeetle 1 year ago
Fuck the Forsaken. They shouldn't even be in Lordaeron. Gtf back to Quel Thelas where you belong =D FOR THE ALLIANCE!
Zzzach4671 1 year ago
Since the Alliance lost Southshore and Hillbrad as a whole, The Alliance should take the Western Plaguelands and Hearthglen and Caer Darrow!
MrMannysChannel 1 year ago
For the alliance and for lordaeron!
TheSerbiankiller 1 year ago
Probably you'll slowly push back the scourge, and using the new Zone phasing mechanic you'll start slowly take back the town...
KiteGr 1 year ago
Wow that looks awsome. Flowers and green trees AMAZING!
UUUURGH CANT WAIT!!!!
Angus333McBride 1 year ago
Im so glad that the alliance got back andorhal & now hearthglen Alliance FTW .... & good that forsaken got some walls at trisfal entrance
kalifornia1985 1 year ago
@kalifornia1985 you're not very smart those arn't alliance banners in Hearthglen those are Argent Crusades......
Jakethegreatish 1 year ago
@Jakethegreatish i know that smartpants but Tirion = Human.... Human = Alliance
kalifornia1985 1 year ago
Sylvanas is not just going to hand over those lands to the alliance BG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pandaland1 1 year ago
Looks like the Forsaken and the Alliance are at war in the Plaguelands come Cataclysm.
mythbuster43 1 year ago
Anyone know - > Arathi highlands? Duskwood ? Searing George ? Burning Steppes ? Changed?
kororago 1 year ago
Wait the scarlet thing will become argent... <,<
Doomedlioness 1 year ago
oh yeah btw this is Eastern Plaguelands not Western plaguelands
superwowman100 1 year ago
wow its like allys have a large supply of blue paint couse they never make their rooftops other than blue
Ragnarosofdarkness 1 year ago
@Ragnarosofdarkness not true some houses have black paint like in darkshire in duskwood and red like in redridge
superwowman100 1 year ago
Sweet. I'm ready to go to Andorhol without running from Scourge.
bamapagedesign 1 year ago
I think it might become a major PvP zone if not a major quest hub. But mostly looking PVPish
Jonnybooster 1 year ago
the plaguelands dont look plague ridden anymore,hopefull blizzard will change the names in teh finall game.
knowur10sand18s 1 year ago
@knowur10sand18s its just gonna be the western lands and eastern
killadingahopper 1 year ago
@killadingahopper Hearthglen is a town in the northern area of the former kingdom of Lordaeron, located north of Andorhal, in an area now known as the Western Plaguelands. The town (and formerly the region) was ruled over by Tirion Fordring.
You could refer to Hearthglen(region) as a province part of the Lordaeron Kingdom.
Mirdamor 1 year ago
the plaguelands belong to the Horde! it's still Lordaeron and the residents didnt move out despite being undead! they have freedom and a will of their own and they chose to side with the Horde! DEATH TO THE ALLIANCE! FOR THE HORDE!
NOW GETT OUT OF THE PLAGUELANDS YOU BLUE FLAG QUEERMOS!
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948
Ashenvale belong to the night elves but that doesnt stop the orces to cut down thier lovly forest, btw im a horde player, but love alliance of the lodaeron lore
slayerskugan 1 year ago
@slayerskugan well the Horde needs lumber, and the night elves took to war rather than seeking diplomacy, so it's kinda everyone's fault for not reaching an understanding. Varian is a Despot and a jackass thinking he has some right claiming Lordaeron, that's Horde turf now, the alliance needs to step the fuck off Horde turf!
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 to be fair...i dont think people from Stormwind are the ones hes "reclaiming" it for...there are plenty of still living Lordaeron refugees who reside in both Stormwind, and all the people in Theramore come from Lordaeron as well...they have every right to be there as the Forsaken do
CBleck 1 year ago
@CBleck be that as it may, the forsaken didnt leave their homes, the refugees did, you cant just remove people still living in an area just because of their affliction. the refugees chose to leave, the forsaken were slaughtered in the homes they knew their entire lives, risen to undeath, and now they keep their homes, the refugees who still live and fled from their homes relocated themselves somewhere safer. you cant justify forcing someone from their home because of their affliction.
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 its not like most of the forsaken had a chance to leave their homes however...its a really complex situation, regardless if they fled they still deserve to live there as much as the Forsaken do, however until now Andorhal has been infested with the Scourge, and with the amount of rebuilding the humans have done as compared to the Forsaken suggests that they probably got their first to rebuild, Im not trying to favor Alliance in this, but knowing their track record, the Forsaken
CBleck 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 probably attacked first
CBleck 1 year ago
@CBleck well the forsaken have more right to Tirisfall, Silverpine, the Western and Eastern Plaguelands, they toughed it out despite people fleeing, so it should be devoid of Alliance presence. Varian needs to get that oversized nose out of other people's shit before he finds a dagger in his eye! and I made for certain he had more than a dozen stabs in his eyes as it is. the words "Black War Bear" makes a big difference.
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 the people of dalaran and pyrewood would like to say hi, they stuck it out as well, most of the ardent dawn is also human all of which who stuck it out too, I fail to see how the forsaken are the only ones who deserve that land...they do deserve it, but both they and the humans really should learn to share. As for Varian, well he does have a stick up his ass, and he knows it, he has tried to give the horde ample opportunities for peace, but Murphy's Law loves to give him the face palm
CBleck 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 the people of dalaran and pyrewood would like to say hi, they stuck it out as well, most of the ardent dawn is also human all of which who stuck it out too, I fail to see how the forsaken are the only ones who deserve that land...they do deserve it, but both they and the humans really should learn to share. As for Varian, well he does have a stick up his ass, and he knows it, he has tried to give the horde ample opportunities for peace, but Murphy's Law loves to give him the face palm
CBleck 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 there are alliance controlled areas there now and i think humans have as much right as forsaken do to be there anyways since that place is crawling with scourge and arthas was human and created all those scourge in Ep and Wp
plus the forsaken are undead humans in the first place
superwowman100 1 year ago
@superwowman100 yeah but you dont force someone to move out of their home just because they have some sort of affliction. and unlike the Alliance, the Horde has worked to cure the plague of undeath so certain members of the forsaken can return to their human lives. however the forsaken still hold their land dear and shouldnt be forced out by the alliance, it's Horde turf anyways.
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 dude its definatley NOT 'horde turf' they didnt make it for hord eonly and the forsaken are in tirisfall NOT Eastern OR Western plaguelands and there already have been human controlled areas there since calssic Wow like the argent dawn and ebon blade places they ar eboth working to stop the scourge and there are some quests where you get to cure people and things there in eastern plaguelands there are only a few forsaken there in Ep/Wp
superwowman100 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 and nowhere have i read about horde cureing forsaken since they CAN'T be cured they were killed and risen as undead to serve the lich king its just like how the deathknights are undead and can't be cured either. and second of all why would the horde want to cure the forsaken back to human in the first place if it meant all the cure dones will have to go back to stormwind and be part of alliance again if they did that for all forsaken there wouldnt be anymore forsaken just humans
superwowman100 1 year ago
@superwowman100 really? The current undead hate humans and if were returned would just be a rogue fraction still with the horde much like blood elves and high elves.
chuj00 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 also the alliance DID NOT force them out of their homes they were forced out when Arthas plagued the land but only a few decided to stay and those few are for some quests regardless of the faction where you have to kill them since they stayed with the scourge
superwowman100 1 year ago
@superwowman100 those who are still scourge are beyond the point where their will can break free of enslavement, the forsaken led by sylvanas retook their homes in lordaeron, and sylvanas being a former resident of Quel'thalas, he claimed lordaeron for the people who stayed behind and fought for their freedom.
anyways Tirisfall, the plaguelands, and quel'thalas are Horde turf, the alliance should just back off and bail! Tirion gave up his loyalties to the alliance and look at him now!
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 well if horde get the plaugelands than i think its fair to say the horde should gtfo out of ashenvale and azshara
Paladinslord 1 year ago
@Paladinslord I can understand stepping out of ashenvale, but that was cenarius' call to attack the Horde so viciously rather than walking forth and reaching a diplomatic settlement. but the alliance treaded on Horde turf as it is and has instigated a lot of attacks on the crossroads. the plaguelands are Horde turf though, look what cities border them, both major Horde cities in Eastern Kingdoms.
Alliance needs to move back south of Thandol span!
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@Paladinslord azshara is ups for grabs ashenvale sure, if ally gtfo barrens.
chuj00 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 well i play alliance most of the time and i fully agree with you on the 'varian the racist' comment but about ashenvale like the last person said ashenvale belongs to night elves which are on the alliance but the orcs wont stop invading alli territory because of that and in cataclysm they take over astraanar and your saying that humans dont have a right to step onto forsaken turf where the forsaken used to be humans.
superwowman100 1 year ago
@superwowman100 and the humans in WP aren't even trying to steal rescources (like those ugly vomit green orcs in ashenvale) if you did any of the quest on alliance then youd see that they are just trying to kill the scourge that remained there thus helping horde and alliance it helps alliance since hillsbrad is right next to WP and the scourge could've grown out to there. plus alliance have every right to be there as everyone else cuz its RIGHT NEXT TO HILLSBRAD which is HUMAN territory
superwowman100 1 year ago
@superwowman100 actually, hillsbrad is still part of Lordaeron, and the forsaken still hold ground there.
the alliance bailed to south of the thandol span and blew the bridge out too, Kael'thas, Maiev, and Tyrande were crossing there in persuit of Illidan.
the alliance needs to gtfo of the plaguelands and move back south of the thandol span. Gilneas severed itself from the alliance and opened themselves to Forsaken attacks, and the attack that destroyed camp taurajo unpravoked.
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
also, if I did lead the Horde, I'd cancel lumber gathering in ashenvale and make the trade with varian of hides for wood. if he turned his back on me I'd tell him to go eat a dick and warn him I'll still be up for the trade, but I wont hesitate to skin him if he tries to back out of the deal now.
okay, I understand Ashenvale is night elf turf, the orcs in a lumber gathering group led by Grom however decided to cut it down, and Cenarius rather than seeking diplomacy with the orcs went to war.
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
also, if I did lead the Horde, I'd cancel lumber gathering in ashenvale and make the trade with varian of hides for wood. if he turned his back on me I'd tell him to go eat a dick and warn him I'll still be up for the trade, but I wont hesitate to skin him if he tries to back out of the deal now.
okay, I understand Ashenvale is night elf turf, the orcs in a lumber gathering group led by Grom however decided to cut it down, and Cenarius rather than seeking diplomacy with the orcs went to war.
RAPTOR948 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 Then The fugly orcs need to gtfo to outland
kalifornia1985 1 year ago
@RAPTOR948 Well, the Alliance does have a good amount of right to the Plaguelands as well. There are a lot of Refugees from the third war who had been living in Stormwind or elsewhere that have just as much right as the forsaken might have. However that being said, the Forsaken are in a way, making a mockery of portions of their former kingdom with that plague and their overall attitude.
Robofish12 1 year ago
Just watching your laggyness is making my eyes bleed...
Reublol 1 year ago
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kertsman2221 1 year ago
Wootness, Andorhal is rebuilt, FOR THE ALLIANCE! DEATH TO THE HORDE!
TheQuilanvos 1 year ago
@TheQuilanvos Well, what they had in mind here is that Both Ally and Horde are Fighting for Control Over this Area. The Left Side of it is Ally, the Right Side is Horde (Forsaken), and the middle is a War-zone fighting for Control.
g0doFdEvi1 1 year ago
@TheQuilanvos
HELL YA ALLIANCE BROTHER :D
LOVESTOSKATE13 1 year ago
so there will be no undeads there anymore?
HeWhoLovesTheWeb 1 year ago
@HeWhoLovesTheWeb
I think not^^
So Bolvar has done a good job ;-)
Stupor111 1 year ago
is this goin 2 be a pvp zone cuase i keep seeing horde and alliance towns and fortresses
niks112 1 year ago
Well This Territory is most likely Alliance :(
KillerskillzCA 1 year ago
The new wpl so cool !
AlexeyevEagle 1 year ago
shoulnd´t the zone change name now?
billylj 1 year ago
eastern plaguelands is mostly controled by argent crusade, all the watch towers has been restored by them, light's chapel is rebuilded and look awsome and more alive now :D i liked andorhal in western but i still wonder if arthas will get a tomb or fancy grave somwhere xP after all he was good guy.
sagi5533 1 year ago
"This zone now involves killing animals!"
TheDeralte 1 year ago
so awesome, I was super excited about cataclysm before, after watching all of these I am even more so now.
Teeedie 1 year ago
what about eastern plaguelands?
FredeBoy4ever 1 year ago
well with the scourge getting back undercontral no wonder peace is being restored back to western plaguelands, i like how it looks i give it a 5/5 with a minus -1 couse i want to see it my sefl :P
but still it looks amasing and im not saying it couse i done all the old quests in that zone but for i liked all the time i spended in that zone, i allso likt to see Lord Uthar's Tome :)
5/5 non the less
copershark 1 year ago
It looks like the Alliance is winning this battle. :P
Tanzo158 1 year ago
@Tanzo158 Yea, They are winning ground in Eastern Kingdoms, just like the Horde does in Kalimdor :)
magictouch115 1 year ago
i hope thy make cataclysm hard :)
darkaccel 1 year ago
i find it realy gay
crackandwowaddict 1 year ago
For Lordaeron ! For the Argent Crusade !
2moonsfun 1 year ago
@2moonsfun this is not an rp forum weirdo...
atweedz 1 year ago
after 2 expansions its over hooray! the undead have been defeated from the plague lands!
eathean98 1 year ago
Omg its's green!
t9m4 1 year ago
what about scholomance?
Justicar001 1 year ago
LoL The Argent Crusade takes Hearthglen =)
Some really bad information for my Scarlet RP Guild Boss xDDD
But i hope they will change this "plague2 sky in Hearthglen and the southern areas near Uther's grave
catlitta 1 year ago
Ooh damn! Its finally cleansed from Undead. What will we pallies have to do now??
TheDeralte 1 year ago
@TheDeralte Clean the forsaken up
zeruel31 1 year ago
@TheDeralte could allways get Lordaeron back for the alliance
canthaguild 1 year ago
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TheLordboud 1 year ago
What i don't get is why all the crypts in game are broken! I mean even the alpha version of light's hope's new crypt is broken
Captainjohntaylor 1 year ago
It appears that the Forsaken gets half Andorhal and the humans get half.
Interesting, a new conflict!
TheRemorseful 1 year ago
@TheRemorseful new northrend buildings too looks cool
Captainjohntaylor 1 year ago
Would make sense since in the last expansion we killed the Lich King. Nice to see life thrive again in that area :D No more scourge woo hoo!!!
CheifPaco 1 year ago
I think this is the only thing I like about Cataclysm
Cabronffs 1 year ago
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Cabronffs 1 year ago