Mathematical Infinity and Human Destiny

[TheLonleyShed]

I choose to have no comment on the content of this video, to avoid argument, and opt to say, only:

OTTERS!!! XD

[LaureanoLuna]

Surely you don't mean that no mathematical system can define the set of all reals but that no mathematical system can define all reals.

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The reals can in fact be mapped onto the integers; the integers cannot be mapped onto the reals.

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It seems you make necessary mathematical truth depend on contingent biological evolution. If so, you can hardly be right on that.

[ORACLE063]

Maybe the hairless apes should take a step off their home world before they make comments on infinity. Im just saying when you know nearly nothing about the universe around you making broad claims about said universe is unwarranted.

[butabenjai]

what a waste of time. infinity is a made up value created by our imaginations. it is not real.

[JDMGTP]

I mean, I took up to diffy Q and I have no idea what he's talking about.

[leathan7]

When you talk about how the "Most beautiful" Is not a singularity but rather, relative. There will ALWAYS be something "More beautiful" Hence making what your conscious state relativly nothing compared to what could be.. and THIS WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE...

It is literally my dream, that I can teach this concept to people, to show them what infinity is... it IS existence

[leathan7]

I wish more people were like this :/

What you are saying is beautiful =( I just wish that people like me and you could actually explain "infinity" to people, actually show them the implications this has...

[leathan7]

The real question is: What is reality then?

That is sort of the point though, that there is no 1 reality, the frame of reference changes the perception of events which we can talk about as singularities.

I rather just not ask questions like "what is reality" and "what is the point of it"

I rather use an anthropic viewpoint and just learn about math and its implications on me.

[shazilyarsien]

'they see mathematics as the one certain truth in the one certain time' place maybe, but not necessarily truth, just one certain something or statistically so,, mathematics depends on the natural universe and it depends on itself, the paradox theory manifesting itself

[shazilyarsien]

what is your definition of experience?

[HelloBrainMind]

The speed of light is infinite. A photon moves over an infinite amount of distance over a zero amount of time.

Believe me.

[InfinitelyManic]

Please clarify. The speed of light is measurable (i.e., 983,571,056 feet/second), which immediately suggests it is not infinite but finite.

[HelloBrainMind]

General relativity does not state this directly, but it is implied.

As you accelerate... notice accelerate. To the speed of light, time becomes distorted, the object accelerating experiences (relatively) less time than all other objects accelerating less than it. As it gets closer and closer to the speed of light, the object's experience of time is exponentially getting closer to zero (relative to all else). At the speed of light, it experiences no time. Any time experienced is an infinitie amo

[HelloBrainMind]

unt compared to all other objects.

The speed of light is infinite in regards to all other objects.

[charlottevk]

Interesting video with very beautiful images

[bitterchew]

prime numbers are infinite. Also I can solve the God question- there IS a God, I know him

[geomong]

My insight to this video is that, it reminds me that infinity is not quite a number...it's a breath of God. Thank you.

[Trancecoach]

"Whatever ecstatic and wonderful experience, whatever ultimate orgasm any being ever experiences, it is the merest hint of a shadow of what can be, And, that will Always be the case."

Yep.

[systematic101]

there are many different types of infinite numbers and they obey all rules of math.(fuctions of math).

[spikex6]

Ok if numbers are an Infinity before 0, then the infinite number must have been givin first. But if the infinite number came first then it is impossible for us to be here. How can something come after an infinite amout of anything, if infinity never ends? Therefore there must have been a beginning for us to exist. After all infinity has no decay because it will never end, but we decay and end. Therefor God is possible

[burnin18]

dude you're giving numbers far too much thought. put down the spliff!

[spikex6]

Mathematical Infinity? No time will ever equeal one? Well if he means that were past the 1 mark then sure thats possible. Are numbers infinite after 1? Sure! But what came before o or zero? Negative numbers? would that mean we came from a negative universe? lol anyone who thinks that numbers are without a beginning are only making fool's of themselves :)

[InfinitelyManic]

Can there be an infinitesimal amount of time before one (1)? What is the beginning number?

[klonedklein]

There is no number that can be defined occurring just before zero. You can actually figure it out quite easily. I wrote a paper on it, but it is too large to post on YT.

You can start by dividing 1 in half. Continue this until you extrapolate about 50 decimal points. Then you can begin to enlarge your equation by taking that nth power and divide the next group by that group and so on and so on. Hard to explain. I wasn't looking for a number, but the smallest point in time where (cont)

[klonedklein]

where the 'past' meets the 'present' becomes the future. The question is, when you say it happened in the past, where does the P,P, and F begin and end. We use seconds, but if, again, you extrapolated it out time becomes insignificant and there is no real division; therefore, at least in the immediate sense, P, P, and F overlap and are one.

That is the short version.

peace

[InfinitelyManic]

Well I think the past is finite, the present is instantaneous and the future is potentially infinitely long assuming something continues to exist. I don't see how the past present and future can be one unless you are referring to eternity.

[klonedklein]

my point is... where do you divide/define what is past/present and future? What finite time period is given in order for you to say we have moved from now to next (for lack of words). Are one second intervals your time of measurement, cause that is not the smallest interval. Granted it is small according to our everyday life and time, but it is not universal in nature.

So, again, what is the defining point where past becomes present and present becomes future?

peace

just thoughts of course

[klonedklein]

Time is a product of man... so, if we did not use 'time' for our lives, I guess the universe would still be in motion and nothing would change--as in due to the fact that we don't measure it. The concept of time may, in fact, be a shackle to the mind's infinite capabilities.

[InfinitelyManic]

One second intervals are universal if all you are doing is taking a measurement. However, I think your point is that if two people measure the time it takes a stop watch's second hand to revolve 360 degrees then one person may determine that it took 60 seconds and the other 59 seconds. Notwithstanding, both persons can measure some change for 60 seconds thereby suggesting that a one second interval is universal -- relatively speaking.

[klonedklein]

Universal as in Universal... beyond this earth and humanity I don't think that they measure 'time' the way we do; however, until we ask, we will never know--need some beings to ask. Hopefully, one day we can ask other beings. Time is an invention of humans for the control of things; to bring 'order' and the like.

peace

[InfinitelyManic]

In closing, what evidence do we have that some other being in some other universe does not measure time "our" way? Other words and quantities may be used (e.g., metric system); however, they may reconcile and thereby be equivalent.

[klonedklein]

Maybe, maybe not. But judging by the way humans use their 'intelligence' and 'knowledge' on this planet, I would be inclined to believe that they don't... even if it is 60/40 in their favor, I would still say that we are far behind in our complete understanding and only operate within a small portion of the vast potential.

closed... :)

[InfinitelyManic]

I agree with your final points. However, why are very intelligent people like mathematicians (not all of them) a little off the wall or are nearly insane(e.g., George Cantor, John Nash, Ted Kaczynski)?

[klonedklein]

Not familiar enough with them and their habits/personal life to actually comment; however, you know the saying about insanity/genius... just a saying. Obviously you and I are not insane... ;)

peace

[InfinitelyManic]

I would suggest that the defining point necessary relies on the present since in the past and in the future (contemplated) nothing moves (i.e., nothing is changing). If change is a definition of time then the point when change stops is the line of demarcation between past present and future. When you blink your eye you are in the present as your eye is moving. However, the instant you stop blocking causing at such and such time, the blink is in the past and any blinking thereafter is future.

[SoilWzelot]

in reality there is just eternal present, past and future is just mental image(concept) expirienced as memory of brain, its quite obvious when you give it a time to feel it.

peace

[klonedklein]

The real question is: What is reality then?

;)

Peace

Yeah, the best time is now for sure.

[SoilWzelot]

:)

reality is something that cant be described by words or understandable by mental imagery cos when you put it in a limited image, you discribe something that reality is not(limited).

but reality can be felt through stillness of brain/mind, through awareness and alertness,

but sadly it will be still indescribable..if you try to describe what is like to eat strawberry or any fruit to some1 who never ate it, you can talk for hours,days but you cant describe it to point that he feels it.

peace.

[InfinitelyManic]

I am trying to recall why I posted the question. Notwithstanding, I am not asking what number exists before zero(0) but what is the first number (after zero) if there are an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1. The limit of 1/x as x approaches infinity is zero (0). The past is not infinite if it started at some point in time.

[avengedthreshhold]

Very informative. After watching this video I ordered the book on it. Can't wait to read it.

[ashilan2]

Very well done. Was a pleasure to listen to and I think you did a fine job of presenting it.. of course there will be people that won't be able to "grasp" it because they have a receding forehead...

[cijumatsu]

no hard feelings, I mean reasonable math and reasonable quantities of math and these videos are interesting, its just that I dont agree with the whole deification of mathematics

[cijumatsu]

mathematics is just a language, it is a language for finding patterns, and going further and further in abstraction, it ain't holy so fuck the educational system that makes us study the math bullshit

[Willbo29]

I didn't get any sound at all on your video

[pbudnik]

No one else had had that complaint so I suspect the problem is at your end. A better version (higher frame rate) is available on Google Video at the URL at end of the description of this video. (YouTube will not let me include the URL here.)

[Namolis]

Nice. But it would be helpful you would use pictures to illustrate the maths you're trying to describe. It's not always so easy to understand what a math problem is asking based only on spoken words.

[lozafj]

great work.