Radical? Yes, Obama is a radical... Cloward and Piven, Alinski etc... There writings and works are all to bring America to it's knees.. When he said transform America boy buddy was he telling the truth. Most people do not understand the radical left.. They do not understand the dangers.. Everything they are saying in this video? Is absolutely true.. That is why it is said about Obama, and that is why those of us say it.. I will continue to expose it myself.. Media Matters is evil to it's core.
@ekrub205 You Democrats are bigots and idiots. You support rape hoaxes, rap music, quota systems, suicide bombers, Sharia Law, radical Islam, rap music, and affirmative action.
This bunch makes Rachel Maddow look like a Playboy Bunny. They should have put a cam in the ladies room to catch one of them pissing while standing up.
Media Matters is MARXIST. Funded by George Soros, its only interested in pushing its liberal globalist agenda into a one world governance. These marxist worship Obama and hate anyone who disagrees. They are racists and haters bent on spreading lies and hate. Media Matters for America? No, only for the progressive elites. Spread this message around
These people are talking about violence, why do they not mention that the people that conduct violence are in fact from the government? They are the biggest violence producers. See FBI site on BIO attack done BY A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE. You need to protect yourself from these extreme government people they by definition believe in Violence and will do anything to support it so they can have a job defending you from it. Its Big Government Gone WILD!
Yeah these Media Matter hypocrites want free speech only to suit their agenda. This is typical of liberals: censorship for speech that they don't agree with. Pro-death Keegan talks about violence but in truth over the last 30 years, only a handful of abortion doctors were targeted in the face of 30 million plus abortions. Pro-lifers are overwhelmingly peaceful and the anti-life/pro-abortion movement is who we really have to fear.
What a bunch of left wing nuts. Talk about extremists. These fools only want their side to be able to bully the other side. The leftists use FAR more vitriol in exchanges both publicly in the press and online blogs and privately in social situations. Their problem is that conservatives now have a forum to talk back and have an audience--a HUGE audience that they lack.
Obama campaigned on HOPE and CHANGE, but he is governing as chicken little. Have you noticed everything is a crisis? Have you ever noticed that when he announces a crisis, he and his libs legislate a catastrophe in response? So he is not your usual chicken little that is running around screeching that the sky is falling. He is actively working to make sure that it falls.
It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.
Pelosi, hope you enjoyed your thanksgiving dinner. Hope you thought about the 30,000 farmworkers standing in food lines because of your actions. If you can deny water to farmers, you can deny healthcare to any citizen or group that you deem expendable. I am sure that your winery has plenty of water. It is far more important to grow wine grapes than vegetables, fruits and nuts. The people who feed the world are themselves in food lines thanks to you. Still think you are compassionate?
do you mean the blue-haired old ladies @ townhalls that nanny lugosi called "nazis" or the jihadist terrrorist who killed 13 soldiers in Texas?
the crap coming out of "our" government would be funny if the consequences were not so serious. who the hell appoints communists, marxists, and maoists to positions of authority?-one who shares those beliefs. occams' razors says "our" president is a communist.
Yeah, I think calling names is a far cry from inciting violence. That's fucking stupid.
There are, however, people out there calling for actual violence and coming pretty close to telling people to go out and kill Obama. Steven Anderson comes to mind. That is constitutionally prosecutable and censorable speech. Name calling is not.
The MSM didn't have someone calling Bush a fascist on a regular basis. Even the shit Keith Olberman said about Bush never came close to the names Glenn Beck calls Obama.
Tons of people are citizen born citizen of the us with citizenship to other counties , it is all legal a good share of the congress hold israeli passport among others .Get over it He is a natural born citizen of the us just as all of the kids of all the immigrants who were born in the US .And i love that u are so mad about it :)
YES!!!! PROGRESSIVE, TO MAKE COMMUNISM AND THE REVOLUTIONARY (SATAN'S LANGUAGE = LIES) TO BE PUT INTO PROGRESS.
Ah, so Obama cannot be accused of defrauding his personal documents.
WHY COULD HE ASK MCCAIN TO PROVE HIS DOCUMENTS AND HE, OBAMA SPENT OVER 1.5 MILLION USD TO ASK HIS ATTORNEYS TO POSTPONE THE PRESENTATION OF HIS PERSONAL DOCUMENTS TO THE COURT?
Obama is son of a Kenya father, because of this he cannot also be senator or president, you fat pig!
Not true, If any person is born on the soil of the USA they are automatically a Natural Born American Citizen, That would include if Bin Laden had a wife who was pregnant and here in the states and had a baby or even if Hitler had a son born here, they would be a citizen and could be president, OBTW You do not have to be natural born to be senator.
this hurts. because progress is what we need. racism mixed with passion for ones belief is too dangerous. freedom speech is one thing. attack on someone's culture is another.
Where in the bill of rights do u see that the president cant be president because he is not white ? If it so funny how those who "live by the constitution" know NOTHING about it and are barking at a constitutionnal scholar looooooool go to 9/12 land
I could care less if a president is black or white. You idots and everyone on the panel in the video are the real radicals/rasists, burners of the constitution. Ever hear of free speach? You don't lilke my right oppose your new Hitler. Your the ones that promote violence and hatred. Your just an idiot who's posseses a retarted degree from a left leaning statist institution. Your opinion doesn't mater to me. Please kiss my ass retard.
Let's be fair though, Bush took a lot of abuse from the left, too. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I think Obama is a big boy and can take care of himself. Politics has always been dirty, racist, sexist, violent and divisive. I think were lucky its not worse than it is.
Yeah but I don't really remember left-wing media moving into some pretty extreme rhetoric against Bush. Most negative media about Bush that I can remember amounted to something as simple as "Bush is a dumb ass and vote democrats next election." At worst, the left-wing media fancied the ideal of him being LEGALLY TRIED on war crimes in the court of law, rather than spewing rhetoric about taking back the country by any means necessary.
The poor Lefties don't want any opposition to the Teleprompter in Chiefs agenda. Sorry Socialists, we are going to oppose you - we don't need your permission, we don't care if you're offended, and it will be a muscular opposition. You just keep whining - we'll keep fighting.
If you know how to change what happened more than 200 years ago then please by all means do so, bit to call ignorant and stupid with out stating any thing else about this topic only highlights who us truly ingnorant my friend, but good luck to you just the same.
Who's bring ignorant, does it matter if he is Indian or not?? The fact is that we built this great country on the understanding that one and all were welcome to be apart of this great venture, to belittle and threaten those that are willing to do what ever it take to be here lessens us as a nation and a people.
"The public .. favor a proposal to allow undocumented immigrants who have been in the US for several years to gain legal ... citizenship."
This is a vague stmt. What's missing is the big "IF". IF they learn English, if they get to the back of line; if they pay fine and back taxes; if they don't bring in their families; if there is no negative impact on the economy; if gov't first secures border and stops illegal immigration;
Hey swampass, I'm American and I think that the imigrants here work harder than piece of shit swamp assholes like you, if anyone should be deported it's brain dead mouthbreathers like you. News flash moron, at some point someone in your family tree was an imigrant!!
Most migrants from Mexico and Central America are of cultures that are more native to this hemisphere than the transplanted Anglo-European mish-mash we call 'American'.
Let me point out that the hate speech and the violent rhetoric was introduced into this discussion by the anti-immigrant crowd. They drew the argument to this issue. This is rightwing extremism in action, at least it's background noise.
Hey swampass, I'm American and I think that the imigrants here work harder than piece of shit swamp assholes like you, if anyone should be deported it's brain dead mouthbreathers like you. News flash moron, at some point someone in your family tree was an imigrant!!
have you ever talked to americans????? they are not for immigration reform, most americans think the border should be closed with mexico, and that illegal mexicans should be deported...this is true, it's also the law.
"The Immigration Divide: Reform is a Potential Wedge Issue for Both Republicans and Democrats"
Published April 12, 2007
By a margin of 60% across the demographic:
"The public generally continues to favor a proposal to allow undocumented immigrants who have been in the United States for several years to gain legal working status and the possibility of future citizenship."
Minute Man militia mentality is racist violence idealization.
Shawna Forde lead a Minuteman "border watch" group who staged a home invasion and slaughtered a family in Arizona to steal money and make it look like "Mexican Drug Gang" killings.
this is such a hypocrite debate and these people know it! what about the DHS calling almost anyone who is against this govs policies as right wing extremist? look how this gov is working, giving more power to the FED who in fact is the cause of all of this financial mess! rahm immanuels call to ban guns from any one who is on the no fly list who is "maybe a possible terrorist" what kind of rhetoric is that? look at city year, what kind of fascist rhetoric are the using and the list goes on!!!
On the Immigration issue,these intellectually dishonest Libs are obviously upset RightWing Radio actually forced a public examination of the "Reform Bill" instead of being able to ram it through. Quite simply,this is a panel of liars. I'm an Obama voter. but I hate people making dishonest arguments.
They have valid points but they submarine their position by not being balanced.how many times did Olbermann call Bush and Cheney fascists? He has a list of The Worst people in the World((99%Conservative and/or Republican)every show,,gave credence to the RIDICULOUS notion that Bush ad members were involved in killing Pat Tillman;Gee,nothing inciteful or irresponsible there;plus allowing Garafolo to call Bailout protesters "racists';
Vryheid88 your not very bright, ok once again for you and all the other little children in class, Bush Cheney and the republicans rushed us into this war and left this nation a mess so morons like you can say lame shit like " how come no one is blaming obama for this illigal war"???? Are you fucking kidding me??? Grow up dumbass!!!!!
The real issue is discussing the issues, and not personalities or events, and both elements on the "right" and "left" sucks in this. Mediamatters seems very partisan. I mean why don't we hear any criticism of Obama and the majority of the Democrats continuing with illegal war in Af-Pak and killing innocent people? Why do they ignore Ron Paul, who really sets an example in terms of staying to the issues and being kind/polite towards the other side?
The real issue is discussing the issues, and not personalities or events, and both elements on the "right" and "left" sucks in this. Mediamatters seems very partisan. I mean why don't we hear any criticism of Obama and the majority of the Democrats continuing with illegal war in Af-Pak and killing innocent people? Why do they ignore Ron Paul, who really sets an example in terms of staying to the issues and being kind/polite towards the other side?
in the last 5 elections since 1992, white america have voted against the candidate that has won the majority of the presidential electoral votes, only once bush 2004 have most white americans voted for the guy that actually recieved the most votes.
Your facts aren't straight. A majority of white voters actually supported W. Bush both in 2000 and 2004. And, saying white america voted against the winner of all the other elections might be semantically right but in reality, in all situations the vote was pretty much splitted in half between the two major candidates.
Add that half/half white vote situation to the fact that the white voters population is in decline, while the latino's, black's, asian's and other nationalities' are rising, and you got a situation where half of the white voters will be happy when the other won't. That's what's called democracy! Here are the results of the white vote for the elections of 92-08.
Don't you just love the right wing haters? They have antisocial personalities and criminal mentalities. Kinda like Iran, huh? The sad fact is that someday they will return to power. It's only a matter of time.
I didn't hear any mention of McCain/Palin, those two are just as responsible as some of those other people. They stood there and incited these people all the way to the point they had them saying things about then Senator Obama like "Off with his head", "Traitor", "Terrorist", "Need gloves to touch him", etc...
So if you are anti illegal immigration, or against government and big business jointly running the government (fascism), you are a extreme radical? Where do I sign up?
First off, "illegal immigration" is racist code, regardless of how much you care to deny it. What you are actually talking about is the scapegoating of migrant immigrants...and in particular Mexican and Central American ethnic communities who have been denied access to Naturalization because of decades of political obstructionism.
Secondly, after eight years of Cheney's friends at Haliburton running our War effort and dictating foreign policy, you have the audacity to claim "Fascism" now?
How typical. If someone thinks immigration should be legal and orderly you label them a racist.
As for fascism you won't get an argument from me about Bush. No one has done more to buddy up to big business and sidestep the constitution. Yet Obama continues Bush's defense of warrantless wire taps, indefinite prisoner detention, an escalation in Afghanistan, flip flop on FISA, Flipflop on NAFTA. Sometimes it's hard to tell them apart.
The only problem immigrants have with obtaining "legal" status is the obstructionist political lobby created by White Supremacist front organizations as has been thoroughly documented by Southern Poverty Law Center and outlined in the DHS report on Rightwing extremists.
If you righteously deny you're a racist, or if you're a coward without the courage of your convictions, I'm willing to either take you at your word or accept your lie...whichever.
If you don't want to get splattered with the mud slug at the REAL RACISTS, stop standing so Goddamn close to 'em!
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
When a person or group of people tell lies over and over again they begin it's true. They lose all perspective to what is truly going on here in the U.S. Because of MMFA Obama will not be re-elected in 2012. Good bye.
Extreme sides of the political spectrum, especially from the right-end, want their followers to believe they are acting as the last line of defense protecting their constitutional free speech rights As soon as they get hold of power, they will reverse their stand and limit personal freedoms.
Radical? Yes, Obama is a radical... Cloward and Piven, Alinski etc... There writings and works are all to bring America to it's knees.. When he said transform America boy buddy was he telling the truth. Most people do not understand the radical left.. They do not understand the dangers.. Everything they are saying in this video? Is absolutely true.. That is why it is said about Obama, and that is why those of us say it.. I will continue to expose it myself.. Media Matters is evil to it's core.
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
MediaMatters supports suicide bombers, radical Islam, brown supremacists, black supremacists, anti-Semites
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Thank GOD, we have people like PAT BUCHANAN, RUSH LIMBAUGH, ANN COULTER and GLENN BECK to STAND UP to these strange leftist bastards.
It's funny how liberals accuse others of calling names while resorting to calling names themselves.
So since everyone is resorting to calling names:
OBAMA IS A LEFTIST, FASCIST, GLOBALIST SOCIALIST tool of George Schwartz Soros.
91dodgespiritrt 1 year ago
Comment removed
91dodgespiritrt 1 year ago
Comment removed
91dodgespiritrt 1 year ago
well done media matters, thank you for the truth. Only bigots and idiots dislike your work.
ekrub205 1 year ago
@ekrub205 You Democrats are bigots and idiots. You support rape hoaxes, rap music, quota systems, suicide bombers, Sharia Law, radical Islam, rap music, and affirmative action.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
This bunch makes Rachel Maddow look like a Playboy Bunny. They should have put a cam in the ladies room to catch one of them pissing while standing up.
bleekblock 1 year ago
Heidi Beirich looks like she swallowed Rush Limbaugh. She has fat piled high and deep (hence Ph.D).
Do they hang her at PBS and kiss the mistletoe at Christmas time?
bleekblock 1 year ago
They look like a bunch of angry, fat, testosterone-laden dikes. How is that for the truth?
bleekblock 1 year ago
I can smell BS from a mile away. Mediamatters has a strong stench.
southernoutlaw10 1 year ago
Media Matters is MARXIST. Funded by George Soros, its only interested in pushing its liberal globalist agenda into a one world governance. These marxist worship Obama and hate anyone who disagrees. They are racists and haters bent on spreading lies and hate. Media Matters for America? No, only for the progressive elites. Spread this message around
31guitar 1 year ago
These people are talking about violence, why do they not mention that the people that conduct violence are in fact from the government? They are the biggest violence producers. See FBI site on BIO attack done BY A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE. You need to protect yourself from these extreme government people they by definition believe in Violence and will do anything to support it so they can have a job defending you from it. Its Big Government Gone WILD!
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
Yeah these Media Matter hypocrites want free speech only to suit their agenda. This is typical of liberals: censorship for speech that they don't agree with. Pro-death Keegan talks about violence but in truth over the last 30 years, only a handful of abortion doctors were targeted in the face of 30 million plus abortions. Pro-lifers are overwhelmingly peaceful and the anti-life/pro-abortion movement is who we really have to fear.
rocknrollohioguy 2 years ago
@rocknrollohioguy That's why they call it terrorism. They want to scare doctors out of the field, and largely, it has worked.
Swift2001 1 year ago
What a bunch of left wing nuts. Talk about extremists. These fools only want their side to be able to bully the other side. The leftists use FAR more vitriol in exchanges both publicly in the press and online blogs and privately in social situations. Their problem is that conservatives now have a forum to talk back and have an audience--a HUGE audience that they lack.
rocknrollohioguy 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Obama campaigned on HOPE and CHANGE, but he is governing as chicken little. Have you noticed everything is a crisis? Have you ever noticed that when he announces a crisis, he and his libs legislate a catastrophe in response? So he is not your usual chicken little that is running around screeching that the sky is falling. He is actively working to make sure that it falls.
Callhermaam 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
THREE VERY TIMELY QUOTES
CRISIS IS THE RALLYING CRY OF THE TYRANT!!
-James Madison
Never let a crisis go to waste. -Rahm Emanuel.
It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.
James Madison
Callhermaam 2 years ago
Pelosi, hope you enjoyed your thanksgiving dinner. Hope you thought about the 30,000 farmworkers standing in food lines because of your actions. If you can deny water to farmers, you can deny healthcare to any citizen or group that you deem expendable. I am sure that your winery has plenty of water. It is far more important to grow wine grapes than vegetables, fruits and nuts. The people who feed the world are themselves in food lines thanks to you. Still think you are compassionate?
Callhermaam 2 years ago
What's wrong with violence? That's what America's all about. Who are these people? Do they live in the U.S.?
yocanbanconit 2 years ago
PRAVDA is more honest than the New York Times-
the Russian media now laughs at OUR obamarxism.
search :
"PRAVDA-american capitalism gone with a whimper"
so much for "free american media"
at least somebody is telling the truth
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
political acts of violence?
do you mean the blue-haired old ladies @ townhalls that nanny lugosi called "nazis" or the jihadist terrrorist who killed 13 soldiers in Texas?
the crap coming out of "our" government would be funny if the consequences were not so serious. who the hell appoints communists, marxists, and maoists to positions of authority?-one who shares those beliefs. occams' razors says "our" president is a communist.
C hicago
C ommunist
C oalition
P arty
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
Yeah, I think calling names is a far cry from inciting violence. That's fucking stupid.
There are, however, people out there calling for actual violence and coming pretty close to telling people to go out and kill Obama. Steven Anderson comes to mind. That is constitutionally prosecutable and censorable speech. Name calling is not.
frayzerm 2 years ago
wut about the hateful and radical rhetoric aimed at bush for the past 8 years... does that "matter" as well??
dcarterfrom07 2 years ago
The MSM didn't have someone calling Bush a fascist on a regular basis. Even the shit Keith Olberman said about Bush never came close to the names Glenn Beck calls Obama.
frayzerm 2 years ago
yea but bush wasnt a fascist and obama is..... so........ wuts ure point??
dcarterfrom07 2 years ago
they want to ban talk radio lol
fuking communists
gensoholicar 2 years ago
$ORO$' PUPPY! WHERE YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
YOU ARE NOT SON OF AMERICAN FATHER, BUT KENYAN FATHER, AND YOU ARE KENYAN... SHOW YOUR CERTIFICATE like I do when I need to renew my American visa!
Hobbytrem 2 years ago
Tons of people are citizen born citizen of the us with citizenship to other counties , it is all legal a good share of the congress hold israeli passport among others .Get over it He is a natural born citizen of the us just as all of the kids of all the immigrants who were born in the US .And i love that u are so mad about it :)
EdugeBDroN 2 years ago
YES!!!! PROGRESSIVE, TO MAKE COMMUNISM AND THE REVOLUTIONARY (SATAN'S LANGUAGE = LIES) TO BE PUT INTO PROGRESS.
Ah, so Obama cannot be accused of defrauding his personal documents.
WHY COULD HE ASK MCCAIN TO PROVE HIS DOCUMENTS AND HE, OBAMA SPENT OVER 1.5 MILLION USD TO ASK HIS ATTORNEYS TO POSTPONE THE PRESENTATION OF HIS PERSONAL DOCUMENTS TO THE COURT?
Obama is son of a Kenya father, because of this he cannot also be senator or president, you fat pig!
Hobbytrem 2 years ago
Not true, If any person is born on the soil of the USA they are automatically a Natural Born American Citizen, That would include if Bin Laden had a wife who was pregnant and here in the states and had a baby or even if Hitler had a son born here, they would be a citizen and could be president, OBTW You do not have to be natural born to be senator.
nutballgazette 2 years ago
if u are born in the US even born to a little green alien YOU ARE A US CITIZEN. get over it
EdugeBDroN 2 years ago
this hurts. because progress is what we need. racism mixed with passion for ones belief is too dangerous. freedom speech is one thing. attack on someone's culture is another.
yourhochoseme 2 years ago
For a media watchdog organization, they sure don't make any attempt to be unbiased, or correct
Rickhard529 2 years ago
the only extermists were the ones on this panel whom just spit on the bill of rights.
Patrickhenry23 2 years ago
Where in the bill of rights do u see that the president cant be president because he is not white ? If it so funny how those who "live by the constitution" know NOTHING about it and are barking at a constitutionnal scholar looooooool go to 9/12 land
EdugeBDroN 2 years ago
I could care less if a president is black or white. You idots and everyone on the panel in the video are the real radicals/rasists, burners of the constitution. Ever hear of free speach? You don't lilke my right oppose your new Hitler. Your the ones that promote violence and hatred. Your just an idiot who's posseses a retarted degree from a left leaning statist institution. Your opinion doesn't mater to me. Please kiss my ass retard.
Patrickhenry23 2 years ago
Media matters is about as truthful as the Gestapo and Pravda.
CrimeReport 2 years ago
Let's be fair though, Bush took a lot of abuse from the left, too. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I think Obama is a big boy and can take care of himself. Politics has always been dirty, racist, sexist, violent and divisive. I think were lucky its not worse than it is.
fliegeroh 2 years ago
We'll see,we'll see!.
Sprauge99 2 years ago
Yeah but I don't really remember left-wing media moving into some pretty extreme rhetoric against Bush. Most negative media about Bush that I can remember amounted to something as simple as "Bush is a dumb ass and vote democrats next election." At worst, the left-wing media fancied the ideal of him being LEGALLY TRIED on war crimes in the court of law, rather than spewing rhetoric about taking back the country by any means necessary.
kizuhara 2 years ago
The poor Lefties don't want any opposition to the Teleprompter in Chiefs agenda. Sorry Socialists, we are going to oppose you - we don't need your permission, we don't care if you're offended, and it will be a muscular opposition. You just keep whining - we'll keep fighting.
mikecampbelly2k 2 years ago
If you know how to change what happened more than 200 years ago then please by all means do so, bit to call ignorant and stupid with out stating any thing else about this topic only highlights who us truly ingnorant my friend, but good luck to you just the same.
aquamadman 2 years ago
Who's bring ignorant, does it matter if he is Indian or not?? The fact is that we built this great country on the understanding that one and all were welcome to be apart of this great venture, to belittle and threaten those that are willing to do what ever it take to be here lessens us as a nation and a people.
aquamadman 2 years ago
By a margin of 60% across the demographic:
"The public .. favor a proposal to allow undocumented immigrants who have been in the US for several years to gain legal ... citizenship."
This is a vague stmt. What's missing is the big "IF". IF they learn English, if they get to the back of line; if they pay fine and back taxes; if they don't bring in their families; if there is no negative impact on the economy; if gov't first secures border and stops illegal immigration;
kerthialfad 2 years ago
Hey swampass, I'm American and I think that the imigrants here work harder than piece of shit swamp assholes like you, if anyone should be deported it's brain dead mouthbreathers like you. News flash moron, at some point someone in your family tree was an imigrant!!
aquamadman 2 years ago
Of course your assumption is hes isnt Native American... please dont be ignorant as well as stupid
BD10128 2 years ago
Yeah - A LEGAL one! What don't you understand about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION??? Breaking the law doesn't give you first place in line Dumbass.
mikecampbelly2k 2 years ago
Yeah and i just bet his family can here through Ellis Island,the legal way,You Dumb,Stupid Ignorant Fucking MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Sprauge99 2 years ago
Most migrants from Mexico and Central America are of cultures that are more native to this hemisphere than the transplanted Anglo-European mish-mash we call 'American'.
dogstar7 2 years ago
Let me point out that the hate speech and the violent rhetoric was introduced into this discussion by the anti-immigrant crowd. They drew the argument to this issue. This is rightwing extremism in action, at least it's background noise.
dogstar7 2 years ago
Hey swampass, I'm American and I think that the imigrants here work harder than piece of shit swamp assholes like you, if anyone should be deported it's brain dead mouthbreathers like you. News flash moron, at some point someone in your family tree was an imigrant!!
aquamadman 2 years ago
have you ever talked to americans????? they are not for immigration reform, most americans think the border should be closed with mexico, and that illegal mexicans should be deported...this is true, it's also the law.
SwampAshHSS 2 years ago
Hey Swampass
Pew Research Center talked to Americans
(By the way, we capitalize that here in America)
"The Immigration Divide: Reform is a Potential Wedge Issue for Both Republicans and Democrats"
Published April 12, 2007
By a margin of 60% across the demographic:
"The public generally continues to favor a proposal to allow undocumented immigrants who have been in the United States for several years to gain legal working status and the possibility of future citizenship."
Care to comment?
dogstar7 2 years ago
America reject Nativist Hate.
Minute Man militia mentality is racist violence idealization.
Shawna Forde lead a Minuteman "border watch" group who staged a home invasion and slaughtered a family in Arizona to steal money and make it look like "Mexican Drug Gang" killings.
...and she's just one they caught and charged.
dogstar7 2 years ago
Yeah the only problem is that a large majority of them are business owners,they only want Cheap labor,thats all.
Sprauge99 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Obama's the Antichrist in the White House
DorjePawo 2 years ago
grow up
bobbyjames1986 2 years ago
I hope this extremism will not manifest itself into violent action against their percieved enimies.
We have to avoid this hate and encourage rational dialouge instead.
qanazir 2 years ago
this is such a hypocrite debate and these people know it! what about the DHS calling almost anyone who is against this govs policies as right wing extremist? look how this gov is working, giving more power to the FED who in fact is the cause of all of this financial mess! rahm immanuels call to ban guns from any one who is on the no fly list who is "maybe a possible terrorist" what kind of rhetoric is that? look at city year, what kind of fascist rhetoric are the using and the list goes on!!!
wdcsucks1 2 years ago
On the Immigration issue,these intellectually dishonest Libs are obviously upset RightWing Radio actually forced a public examination of the "Reform Bill" instead of being able to ram it through. Quite simply,this is a panel of liars. I'm an Obama voter. but I hate people making dishonest arguments.
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
They have valid points but they submarine their position by not being balanced.how many times did Olbermann call Bush and Cheney fascists? He has a list of The Worst people in the World((99%Conservative and/or Republican)every show,,gave credence to the RIDICULOUS notion that Bush ad members were involved in killing Pat Tillman;Gee,nothing inciteful or irresponsible there;plus allowing Garafolo to call Bailout protesters "racists';
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
Vryheid88 your not very bright, ok once again for you and all the other little children in class, Bush Cheney and the republicans rushed us into this war and left this nation a mess so morons like you can say lame shit like " how come no one is blaming obama for this illigal war"???? Are you fucking kidding me??? Grow up dumbass!!!!!
aquamadman 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The real issue is discussing the issues, and not personalities or events, and both elements on the "right" and "left" sucks in this. Mediamatters seems very partisan. I mean why don't we hear any criticism of Obama and the majority of the Democrats continuing with illegal war in Af-Pak and killing innocent people? Why do they ignore Ron Paul, who really sets an example in terms of staying to the issues and being kind/polite towards the other side?
vryheid88 2 years ago
The real issue is discussing the issues, and not personalities or events, and both elements on the "right" and "left" sucks in this. Mediamatters seems very partisan. I mean why don't we hear any criticism of Obama and the majority of the Democrats continuing with illegal war in Af-Pak and killing innocent people? Why do they ignore Ron Paul, who really sets an example in terms of staying to the issues and being kind/polite towards the other side?
vryheid88 2 years ago
in the last 5 elections since 1992, white america have voted against the candidate that has won the majority of the presidential electoral votes, only once bush 2004 have most white americans voted for the guy that actually recieved the most votes.
bonanzausa 2 years ago
Your facts aren't straight. A majority of white voters actually supported W. Bush both in 2000 and 2004. And, saying white america voted against the winner of all the other elections might be semantically right but in reality, in all situations the vote was pretty much splitted in half between the two major candidates.
ohboy19 2 years ago
Add that half/half white vote situation to the fact that the white voters population is in decline, while the latino's, black's, asian's and other nationalities' are rising, and you got a situation where half of the white voters will be happy when the other won't. That's what's called democracy! Here are the results of the white vote for the elections of 92-08.
1992 Clinton 39% Bush 40%
1996 Clinton 43% Dole 46%
2000 Gore 42% W. Bush 55%
2004 Kerry 41% W. Bush 58%
2008 Obama 43% McCain 55%
ohboy19 2 years ago
fuck GOP
WKaliberr 2 years ago 2
genie0390, "progressiveness?"
That's not a word, genius.
Go back to listening to talk radio and watching FOX News.
oishmeloish 2 years ago
Don't you just love the right wing haters? They have antisocial personalities and criminal mentalities. Kinda like Iran, huh? The sad fact is that someday they will return to power. It's only a matter of time.
cat00012000 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
it's all really quite simple
there is no bigger threat to our Constitution than Progressiveness! Read some books on American Progressive movement and decide for yourself
genie0390 2 years ago
Yeah. The progressive threat. I mean, making a black person count for more than 3/5 is a terrible threat indeed.
Propagandhi900 2 years ago 3
I didn't hear any mention of McCain/Palin, those two are just as responsible as some of those other people. They stood there and incited these people all the way to the point they had them saying things about then Senator Obama like "Off with his head", "Traitor", "Terrorist", "Need gloves to touch him", etc...
KSGixxer76 2 years ago 5
This comment has received too many negative votes show
More progressive whining.
christian1600 2 years ago
they're right though just look at the 90s
d3p3ch3mod3 2 years ago
So if you are anti illegal immigration, or against government and big business jointly running the government (fascism), you are a extreme radical? Where do I sign up?
gsuitter 2 years ago
no then you're libertarian. you become a radical if you lose your marbles and blow up buildings like mcveigh did
d3p3ch3mod3 2 years ago
It's one thing to hold a set of positions on the issues; it's another to repeatedly portray everyone else as an existential threat.
AtSwimTwoBricks 2 years ago 2
That's not what this video is saying at all.
newwavewitch 2 years ago
First off, "illegal immigration" is racist code, regardless of how much you care to deny it. What you are actually talking about is the scapegoating of migrant immigrants...and in particular Mexican and Central American ethnic communities who have been denied access to Naturalization because of decades of political obstructionism.
Secondly, after eight years of Cheney's friends at Haliburton running our War effort and dictating foreign policy, you have the audacity to claim "Fascism" now?
dogstar7 2 years ago 2
How typical. If someone thinks immigration should be legal and orderly you label them a racist.
As for fascism you won't get an argument from me about Bush. No one has done more to buddy up to big business and sidestep the constitution. Yet Obama continues Bush's defense of warrantless wire taps, indefinite prisoner detention, an escalation in Afghanistan, flip flop on FISA, Flipflop on NAFTA. Sometimes it's hard to tell them apart.
gsuitter 2 years ago
Always love the "typical" slam.
No really, I swear I'm atypical! LOL!
It comes down to one basic truism:
America exploits immigrant labor
...not the other way around.
The only problem immigrants have with obtaining "legal" status is the obstructionist political lobby created by White Supremacist front organizations as has been thoroughly documented by Southern Poverty Law Center and outlined in the DHS report on Rightwing extremists.
dogstar7 2 years ago 2
If you righteously deny you're a racist, or if you're a coward without the courage of your convictions, I'm willing to either take you at your word or accept your lie...whichever.
If you don't want to get splattered with the mud slug at the REAL RACISTS, stop standing so Goddamn close to 'em!
dogstar7 2 years ago
I wholeheartedly concur.
trauts01 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
When a person or group of people tell lies over and over again they begin it's true. They lose all perspective to what is truly going on here in the U.S. Because of MMFA Obama will not be re-elected in 2012. Good bye.
Bruce1949919 2 years ago
Do you care to elaborate?
What group of people are lying,I'm curious to understand your comment.
wervasdeferens 2 years ago
no, you're just retarded.
carrierexchange 2 years ago
Extreme sides of the political spectrum, especially from the right-end, want their followers to believe they are acting as the last line of defense protecting their constitutional free speech rights As soon as they get hold of power, they will reverse their stand and limit personal freedoms.
Francebrasil 2 years ago
FINALLY someone's talking about this problem.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
newwavewitch 2 years ago 3