Great essay. I think the essay could be improved by embracing anarchism, however, rather than pretending that "a simple and enduring government can be conceived" in the proposition that "law is justice." I wrote about this disagreement that I had with the essay on my blog if anyone is interested: tinyurl[dot]com/84t95du
Me too! I'm hooked... Strapped in for all 9 segments. G. Edward Griffin is a natural! Has he done his own Creature from Jekyll Island, too, I wonder? Thanks for posting! I expect views will skyrocket.
This book, more than any other book I have read in my life, has provided me great insight into day to day political plundering. This book should be mandatory reading by every human on the planet. What a change we would see.
A classic! When my oldest son, Liberty, was 16 I sat him down and we began to read. "Oh, Dad! I'd much rather be shooting hoops!" But by page 22 of this booklet he was hooked! Later, I learned, he handed out copies of "The Law" and had actually memorized portions. A hundred and seventy-five years from now, if any form of civilization survives men will shake their heads in wonder if we have not at least tried what Bastiat gave the world. Google for a free download.
@TheAttackRat You have to be insane to think a guy who understands the law like this would be an atheist. GODS LAW is supreme to all contract law. LAW 101.
You are very stupid to think there is no god. "God Exists!" -Ralph Epperson
I don't know why it took me so long to find this series! This is one of the essential books on the proper functions of government and the preservation of liberty that has ever been written and one of my top two books of all time in terms of importantance to the citizens of the world, not just of the United States.
I urge you all to promote the viewing of this series to everyone you know and meet and a reading of the book itself as well. The liberties of all people are dependent on the truth!
The intro is absurd conservative drivel. Too bad, cuz it's a good book.
Idiot conservatives don't see a difference between food stamps and true socialism (state farms, state distribution centers etc.), or between tuition-vouchers and state schools, etc.. They lump all government charity into "socialism". As a result, conservatives actually do a disservice to the arguments for Free Markets by responding to the poor with "screw 'm".
@danmcdonald22 I meant the intro to this video... is idiot conservative drivel. Haven't read the book, but I've read excerpts. Bastiat had some great intellectual arguments that need to be addressed. Conservative argument has used his works to justify their own sick positions on social welfare. From what I understand of Bastiat's life, he wouldn't necessarily approve... any more than Christ might approve of what's been done in his name lol
@etzel33 Bastiat opposed all forms of forced organization. In the Law he says, "we repudiate only forced organization, not natural organization". As such, he would have been for voluntary social welfare -- not forced social welfare. I don't defend conservatives, just Bastiat & the ideas of peace, freedom, and voluntary exchange which he espoused. To forcibly take money in the name of any cause is still an act of aggression. Aggression is the tool of a barbarian, not a civilized person.
@cfbastiat By forced organization, you refer to any "state" as in the US Constitution? Soverignty is one concept, equity in that sovereignty is another. Of course I'm a libertarian, but I also believe in little ideas like representative democracy. Much better than private ownership calling themselves "monarchs", don't you think? You're taking root anarchist principles and applying them to Bastiat. Any allodial title to land/resources is aggression. Title is a creature of the state.
There's no balance of power in the USA today. The criminal treasonous mass murdering Freemason cabal controls the government and the justice system. They've set it up so that they can block justice and rob us financially through the justice system. We don't have a government, we have a criminal cabal of fascist that is serving itself and helping itself to the fruits of our labor. Everything they do now is to rob as many people as possible on a daily basis and not be punished for it.
If the law was just about protecting our rights, just about justice, then we'd have a real 9/11 investigation. The Freemason criminals who committed the 9/11 attacks control the government, the Fed Rsrv Bank & the mass media. They will not let mass media that they control inform us on how to get justice. They will not let the judges & justices they control allow us to try them for treason. Chief Justice Alito was installed by Bush to protect Jeb & the whole criminal treasonous Freemason cabal.
Bastiat's "The Law" is probably one of the top 5 most important books ever written. The sheer simplicity with which he frames his boundless and powerfull arguments is almost unimaginable. If you are a thinking person this essay will pierce your heart with wisdom that is so self-evident and absolute. I was changed after reading it, and will never be the same again. To say that this essay should be required reading for high school students is quite possibly the greatest understatement of all time.
I'm curious tubalcane- when did you first happen on The Law and when did you finish reading it?
I've been recommending it for years and it was the very first thing I posted on my page when signing up to YT. Many won't take the time to follow up my suggestion and I'm wondering what brought you to that point and your mindset before and after.
If memory serves me I picked up a copy at a bookseller that was at a gun show. I don't think the book led me to that mindset...I was already there. It just put in written form, what I had been thinking for some time. It helped me to focus my thoughts in a more refined way. That in itself was earthshaking. It was like I was reading on paper what I had been thinking and it was fantastic. And best yet it helped me to structure my thoughts so that I could adequately express them to others.
I agree that this is one of the most important literary works on government and should be required reading.
My Mom is a teacher and I gave her the book when she went on a trip to Canada. When she returned, she said after six attempts she gave up reading it because she couldn't understand it. Maybe I should send the audio! Thanks for the post.
Humans by nature are colonists. For those desiring the company of others, must have some form of organization. The constitution provided a limited federal government for the purpose of collecting the merest of taxes and solely from the 'states', never We the People (WTP). The states pay uniformly in accordance with their numbers.
The constitution also provided for a means of collecting from WTP but in a manner that any individual could summarily avoid- ie liquor tax (if u oppose tax=don't buy).
Don't get me wrong, the Consitutiotn is great in comparison to what we have now, in fact it would be paradise.... but it isn't "pure liberty".
Taxation is taxation...
Theft is theft....
Violence is violence...
It is still immoral... even if it is on a smaller scale, and supposedly "avoidable" "For those desiring the company of others, must have some form of organization"
Yes, but there's a difference between a State and a chess club.
"True but a chess club is not equipped to handle the intercourse between one foreign body (state) and another"
In this day and age, with global communication and transportation as it is, people from Argentina can talk and deal with people in Denmark with ease. All States do that we cant do (better) is wage wars.
"Anarchy will not work. "
How's Statism treating ya?
If you believe in the free market and libertarian values Anarchy is merely the next step. It's the same principle.
Look, calling me a statist just because I suggest that anarchy can't and won't work is foolish.
I also believe in the Lord- but I don't expect heaven on earth. Striving for it is the another matter. I applaud anyone 'striving' for perfection and yes, there you have it, my confession that 'anarchy' in the realm of free men is perfection- but I cannot ever divorce myself from the King of the Universe- thus no man rules.
I wasn't calling you a statist (atleast not in the derogatory way). I used "statism" as in the belief in a state, just as "anarchism" is a belief that there should be no state. Sorry for the confusion.
Other than that, I fail to see the relevance of a god in all this.
Well... you liken yourself to the perfect government ie NO GOVERNMENT, I liken myself similarly but entirely rely on the Lord for such divine rights and guidance. Pretty much the same thing, we each are looking to perfection. However mine is more realistic because it is based upon G*d and expect it in Heaven. Whereas you think yours is more realistic because it isn't (apparently) based upon G*d and expect it on earth.
Ok.Well I wont get into a theistic debate with you even tho Im an atheist, and in any case I am on the same side as you (atleast temporarily) in that im not against small gains, thus why I supported Ron Paul (hence the "RP" in my name).I shall continue to support RP-esque candidates, even if it hurts me a little to support the system.
That said,I do have a question for you. Why do 'disguise' the word "God" by using a "*". I've seen a few people do this kind of thing and I've always wondered why
Anarchy requires no "Law" in its purest form. Bastiat presents the balance of Law- or its actual right to exist; to Life, liberty and private property all gifts from God. Plunder through law is still Plunder and the creation of as he states; Making Plunder into an entire system.
I found reading it much easier but... any means of getting the material understood is a MUST. A whole course (nigh a whole under graduate degree) could be formed on this foundation.
Yeah, I know, The Law is one of the first and best books I've read on the subject. It is not difficult to understand... I think a lifetime of working for the State has made my Mom "institutionalized" to a degree. She does not recognize any probable limitations on the scope of government. She told me that the County should operate a defunct golf course it annexed into the ever expanding land grabs. She trusts the State because she is part of the State. It's a willful inability to understand. =(
I have always considered this one of the most important literary works on government and political philosophy ever. Thanks for putting it on audio. Everyone should be required to read before they can vote.
the law is as fair as gravity. and the law perverted is like banning gravity by tapping rockets to every apply.
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Great essay. I think the essay could be improved by embracing anarchism, however, rather than pretending that "a simple and enduring government can be conceived" in the proposition that "law is justice." I wrote about this disagreement that I had with the essay on my blog if anyone is interested: tinyurl[dot]com/84t95du
PeaceRequiresAnarchy 2 days ago
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PeaceRequiresAnarchy 2 days ago
ron paul
joshua1auhsoj 1 week ago
I'm 100% behind what Ron Paul (Peter Schiff I suspect) wants to do domestically. But Ron Paul is 100% wrong
To understand why, please understand our situation:
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And it's not just oil..
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The other reason:
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mredstriumph 2 months ago
@mredstriumph Ron Paul 2012!
pablocoon 1 month ago
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@pablocoon
Like I said brother.. domestically, Ron Paul follows Peter Schiff - and I'm 100% behind him. His foreign policy is a BIG mistake.
Watch this. The sooner you know about this issue, the better off you'll be:
w w w. youtube . com/watch?v=cwNgNyiXPLk
Remember.. it's not just oil..
w w w. youtube . com/watch?v=3lRkB6gvBC0
And the other reason:
w w w. amazon . com/Empires-Trust-Built-America-Building/dp/0525950745
mredstriumph 1 month ago
ron paul told me to come here.
paulrevere1010 2 months ago
And Ron Paul again
7lucyford7 2 months ago
Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul.... and Ron Paul
ElJefer 2 months ago
Me too! I'm hooked... Strapped in for all 9 segments. G. Edward Griffin is a natural! Has he done his own Creature from Jekyll Island, too, I wonder? Thanks for posting! I expect views will skyrocket.
PistolPackingPatriot 3 months ago
Ron Paul sent me too!
das1im1 3 months ago 4
Ron Paul sent me.
gratedrawur 3 months ago 18
@gratedrawur me too!
2ruthfox82 3 months ago 2
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thanks ron paul good book
DEBO82420 3 months ago
Ron Paul!
YankeesDaily 3 months ago 22
This book, more than any other book I have read in my life, has provided me great insight into day to day political plundering. This book should be mandatory reading by every human on the planet. What a change we would see.
nalejbank 10 months ago
I'm not trying to add more spam to the comments section but thank you very much for posting this.
THEVETERAN7 10 months ago
finally some good explaining... me have to learn more :)
thirdchaptervideo 11 months ago
@etzel33 apparently you've read Christ as lightly as you read H
donwood777 11 months ago
@theattackrat "atheist?"
donwood777 11 months ago
Yep! "Liberty Robert" the kind of son every dad dreams of.
donwood777 11 months ago
A classic! When my oldest son, Liberty, was 16 I sat him down and we began to read. "Oh, Dad! I'd much rather be shooting hoops!" But by page 22 of this booklet he was hooked! Later, I learned, he handed out copies of "The Law" and had actually memorized portions. A hundred and seventy-five years from now, if any form of civilization survives men will shake their heads in wonder if we have not at least tried what Bastiat gave the world. Google for a free download.
donwood777 1 year ago
@donwood777 you names your son liberty? :O
100CommonCents 11 months ago
i wish bastiat was an atheist; but hey, it sure wasn't as obvious back then and it doesn't necessarily harm his argument.
TheAttackRat 1 year ago
@TheAttackRat
Did he believe in Natural Law over Positive Law?
CRAPCANNONS 3 months ago
@TheAttackRat You have to be insane to think a guy who understands the law like this would be an atheist. GODS LAW is supreme to all contract law. LAW 101.
You are very stupid to think there is no god. "God Exists!" -Ralph Epperson
trevor123698123 3 weeks ago
I don't know why it took me so long to find this series! This is one of the essential books on the proper functions of government and the preservation of liberty that has ever been written and one of my top two books of all time in terms of importantance to the citizens of the world, not just of the United States.
I urge you all to promote the viewing of this series to everyone you know and meet and a reading of the book itself as well. The liberties of all people are dependent on the truth!
nalejbank 1 year ago 4
I love this book! what a great book!!!
andrewthedrummerboy 1 year ago
got to like that phrase false philanthropy
Bastiat00 1 year ago
The intro is absurd conservative drivel. Too bad, cuz it's a good book.
Idiot conservatives don't see a difference between food stamps and true socialism (state farms, state distribution centers etc.), or between tuition-vouchers and state schools, etc.. They lump all government charity into "socialism". As a result, conservatives actually do a disservice to the arguments for Free Markets by responding to the poor with "screw 'm".
etzel33 1 year ago
@etzel33 Are you sure you read the book?
danmcdonald22 1 year ago
@danmcdonald22 I meant the intro to this video... is idiot conservative drivel. Haven't read the book, but I've read excerpts. Bastiat had some great intellectual arguments that need to be addressed. Conservative argument has used his works to justify their own sick positions on social welfare. From what I understand of Bastiat's life, he wouldn't necessarily approve... any more than Christ might approve of what's been done in his name lol
etzel33 1 year ago
@etzel33 Bastiat opposed all forms of forced organization. In the Law he says, "we repudiate only forced organization, not natural organization". As such, he would have been for voluntary social welfare -- not forced social welfare. I don't defend conservatives, just Bastiat & the ideas of peace, freedom, and voluntary exchange which he espoused. To forcibly take money in the name of any cause is still an act of aggression. Aggression is the tool of a barbarian, not a civilized person.
cfbastiat 10 months ago
@cfbastiat By forced organization, you refer to any "state" as in the US Constitution? Soverignty is one concept, equity in that sovereignty is another. Of course I'm a libertarian, but I also believe in little ideas like representative democracy. Much better than private ownership calling themselves "monarchs", don't you think? You're taking root anarchist principles and applying them to Bastiat. Any allodial title to land/resources is aggression. Title is a creature of the state.
etzel33 10 months ago
@etzel33 LMAO. I bet thats conservative drivel, you fool.
trevor123698123 3 weeks ago
perfect visual images to this wonderful audio
pookypoo77 2 years ago
Thank you a million times over for posting this. You're going to help me make a kick-a** documentary.
ROPdude 2 years ago 2
@ROPdude Did you ever make that kick ass documentary you spoke of?
Atlas Shrugged, the movie, is in theaters now and I encourage all to see it as I did. Up with Liberty!!!
nalejbank 10 months ago 2
thanks 5*****
chrisgwathney 2 years ago
There's no balance of power in the USA today. The criminal treasonous mass murdering Freemason cabal controls the government and the justice system. They've set it up so that they can block justice and rob us financially through the justice system. We don't have a government, we have a criminal cabal of fascist that is serving itself and helping itself to the fruits of our labor. Everything they do now is to rob as many people as possible on a daily basis and not be punished for it.
ExoticGawdess 2 years ago
If the law was just about protecting our rights, just about justice, then we'd have a real 9/11 investigation. The Freemason criminals who committed the 9/11 attacks control the government, the Fed Rsrv Bank & the mass media. They will not let mass media that they control inform us on how to get justice. They will not let the judges & justices they control allow us to try them for treason. Chief Justice Alito was installed by Bush to protect Jeb & the whole criminal treasonous Freemason cabal.
ExoticGawdess 2 years ago
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this dude is dry, he needs some charisma in his voice
dgeezy84 3 years ago
google campaign for liberty
bigmacattack05 3 years ago 3
Bastiat's "The Law" is probably one of the top 5 most important books ever written. The sheer simplicity with which he frames his boundless and powerfull arguments is almost unimaginable. If you are a thinking person this essay will pierce your heart with wisdom that is so self-evident and absolute. I was changed after reading it, and will never be the same again. To say that this essay should be required reading for high school students is quite possibly the greatest understatement of all time.
tubalcane 3 years ago 9
lol, you sure as reality are not exaggerating.
mkloppel 3 years ago
I'm curious tubalcane- when did you first happen on The Law and when did you finish reading it?
I've been recommending it for years and it was the very first thing I posted on my page when signing up to YT. Many won't take the time to follow up my suggestion and I'm wondering what brought you to that point and your mindset before and after.
Gratefully,
anyusmoon1
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
If memory serves me I picked up a copy at a bookseller that was at a gun show. I don't think the book led me to that mindset...I was already there. It just put in written form, what I had been thinking for some time. It helped me to focus my thoughts in a more refined way. That in itself was earthshaking. It was like I was reading on paper what I had been thinking and it was fantastic. And best yet it helped me to structure my thoughts so that I could adequately express them to others.
tubalcane 2 years ago 5
Well, halelujah! You do it well! Keep up the good work. :-)
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Seventy-five pages of condensed genius.
SCE2AUX 3 years ago 4
Exactly.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
I agree that this is one of the most important literary works on government and should be required reading.
My Mom is a teacher and I gave her the book when she went on a trip to Canada. When she returned, she said after six attempts she gave up reading it because she couldn't understand it. Maybe I should send the audio! Thanks for the post.
BeanGene 3 years ago
some people just cannot wrap their minds around the idea of pure liberty. but the audio is definetly easy listening.
mkloppel 3 years ago
Pure liberty?
Would taxation, under this liberal (the proper term) state, then be voluntary?
RPFS2008 3 years ago
Humans by nature are colonists. For those desiring the company of others, must have some form of organization. The constitution provided a limited federal government for the purpose of collecting the merest of taxes and solely from the 'states', never We the People (WTP). The states pay uniformly in accordance with their numbers.
The constitution also provided for a means of collecting from WTP but in a manner that any individual could summarily avoid- ie liquor tax (if u oppose tax=don't buy).
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, the Consitutiotn is great in comparison to what we have now, in fact it would be paradise.... but it isn't "pure liberty".
Taxation is taxation...
Theft is theft....
Violence is violence...
It is still immoral... even if it is on a smaller scale, and supposedly "avoidable" "For those desiring the company of others, must have some form of organization"
Yes, but there's a difference between a State and a chess club.
RPFS2008 2 years ago
True but a chess club is not equipped to handle the intercourse between one foreign body (state) and another.
Anarchy will not work.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
"True but a chess club is not equipped to handle the intercourse between one foreign body (state) and another"
In this day and age, with global communication and transportation as it is, people from Argentina can talk and deal with people in Denmark with ease. All States do that we cant do (better) is wage wars.
"Anarchy will not work. "
How's Statism treating ya?
If you believe in the free market and libertarian values Anarchy is merely the next step. It's the same principle.
RPFS2008 2 years ago
Look, calling me a statist just because I suggest that anarchy can't and won't work is foolish.
I also believe in the Lord- but I don't expect heaven on earth. Striving for it is the another matter. I applaud anyone 'striving' for perfection and yes, there you have it, my confession that 'anarchy' in the realm of free men is perfection- but I cannot ever divorce myself from the King of the Universe- thus no man rules.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
I wasn't calling you a statist (atleast not in the derogatory way). I used "statism" as in the belief in a state, just as "anarchism" is a belief that there should be no state. Sorry for the confusion.
Other than that, I fail to see the relevance of a god in all this.
RPFS2008 2 years ago
I thought my parallel to my idea of perfection was perfectly clear and more than appropriate.
I accept, on reading your comment again that you were not calling me statist but narrowly.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
I understood the parallel up until:
"but I cannot ever divorce myself from the King of the Universe- thus no man rules. "
Care to enlighten me?
RPFS2008 2 years ago
Well... you liken yourself to the perfect government ie NO GOVERNMENT, I liken myself similarly but entirely rely on the Lord for such divine rights and guidance. Pretty much the same thing, we each are looking to perfection. However mine is more realistic because it is based upon G*d and expect it in Heaven. Whereas you think yours is more realistic because it isn't (apparently) based upon G*d and expect it on earth.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Ok.Well I wont get into a theistic debate with you even tho Im an atheist, and in any case I am on the same side as you (atleast temporarily) in that im not against small gains, thus why I supported Ron Paul (hence the "RP" in my name).I shall continue to support RP-esque candidates, even if it hurts me a little to support the system.
That said,I do have a question for you. Why do 'disguise' the word "God" by using a "*". I've seen a few people do this kind of thing and I've always wondered why
RPFS2008 2 years ago
Anarchy requires no "Law" in its purest form. Bastiat presents the balance of Law- or its actual right to exist; to Life, liberty and private property all gifts from God. Plunder through law is still Plunder and the creation of as he states; Making Plunder into an entire system.
shopken1 2 years ago
I found reading it much easier but... any means of getting the material understood is a MUST. A whole course (nigh a whole under graduate degree) could be formed on this foundation.
FREEDOM IS POPULAR! :-)
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
"she said after six attempts she gave up reading it because she couldn't understand it."
Tell her: Mom I'm thinking of taking someones property or money by force.
When she says: but that would be stealing
Tell her: Yes, but I am going to do good things with it.
When she says: It is still against the law
Say: Then I will get a large group of people for support and appoint them to take it for me
When she says: It is still against the law
Tell her: She did understand the book after all
;)
poohtoob 3 years ago
Yeah, I know, The Law is one of the first and best books I've read on the subject. It is not difficult to understand... I think a lifetime of working for the State has made my Mom "institutionalized" to a degree. She does not recognize any probable limitations on the scope of government. She told me that the County should operate a defunct golf course it annexed into the ever expanding land grabs. She trusts the State because she is part of the State. It's a willful inability to understand. =(
BeanGene 3 years ago
And what should be chief concern to us all... who/what is the largest employer in the nation? Who/what is the largest employer in your State?
Scary.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
If you have other similar erudite works, please post them if you will.
Thank you!
MrCropper 3 years ago 2
Great book! Simple and powerful.
kandel1986 3 years ago 2
This book logically explains freedom better than any other book.
codyo2 4 years ago 51
I have always considered this one of the most important literary works on government and political philosophy ever. Thanks for putting it on audio. Everyone should be required to read before they can vote.
vote for Ron Paul
VINNYMOR 4 years ago 7
Thank You !!!
vudumojo 4 years ago 28