Simunition cartridges are LETHAL and not to be used for human targets. You can get paint BBs for Airsoft which will indicate whether or not your target has been hit while wearing their normal tactical gear or layers of gear andor clothing. The idea in Airsoft is not to "feel" the round hit you although, if you've ever been hit with an Airsoft BB you know it hurts like hell and leaves a nice bruise or in some cases even bleeds. The point is to be able to hit a live human target and not kill them.
Simunition cartridges are dangerous, not lethal. And paintball bbs cannot be used effectively. First, they can only be used in a breach loading pistol. Try loading them in a mag. Second, they are inaccurate and often fail to break.
You can certainly feel a bb. And that is certainly the idea.
Law enforcement and military use RAP4 paint ball m4to train with, they hit you hard but dont kill you, better than this baby airsoft crap which is a joke,
For one you cannot even own a military operational AR.. You need a form 18 on file with the government.. Thats states that you are either a law enforcement officer.. or that you are military personel.. Also.. if i was to shoot my friends with an AR they would be dead! Airsoft is all about MilSim.. its not about watching "bb's bounce off paper"! If you will notice in the background it sounded as if a skirmish was in progress.
First of all, you can't play airsoft games with real bullets unless you're suicidal.
Second, bb's are much cheaper than real bullets. Law enforcement has used airsoft for simulations. What you saw in that vid was from Systema, airsoft DESIGNED for training.
Real guns are lethal. Airsoft isn't. If you have an accident with airsoft, the worst that can happen is chipping a tooth or losing an eye. Accidents with real guns can kill you or someone else.
I would love to know of a police agency that uses airsoft for training. You have to train in all your gear to be familiar with moving in all that added bulk. You can't feel a toy gun's bb under all that.
Real force on force trainers use stuff called Simunition. Google it.
Airsoft is still fun, I don't mean to slam it, but it's still just a game.
Lexington County Sheriff's Department's SWAT team use Systema M4 and MP5 PTWs. First of all they arn't shooting each other, they're simulating on unarmored threats. Plus when you get shot with one they make a very distinctive thudding sound on your vest. Systema was built for Military and Law Enforcement training...the guns break down just like the real ones and work exactly like the real ones.
Adding to what Cre8tor said, if the FPS of the gun is not enough to be 'felt', you can always upgrade the spring to 500 FPS so you can 'feel' something. Most airsoft guns are bult 1:1 scale meaning it has the same size, and nearly same weight as a real steel version. I would see airsoft weapons used as training against people, while using the real steel for practice shooting and targets.
Real AR's still cost more than Airsoft. And Consider the fact that you can't own a real gun in some places. Airsoft is the next best thing. Do your research first before you make a judgment. Airsoft is cheap, you can get a decent gun, full-auto, and very durable, for $200 bucks. A Real AR, on the other hand, costs as much as a used car and still jams. Oh, and Airsoft allows you to actually shoot other people without killing them.
Jams really? If your running old mags with bent feed lips then yeah it will jam. Maintain your gear and it will take care of you. Stupid poser airsofters
Im gonna have to play the devils advocate. I dont really like airsoft per se but can you shoot a real "AR" at other people in war games?? I think you are missing the point of the whole airsoft scene, am i right?
Airsoft exists because you cannot shoot your best friend 5 times in the same day and still have a best friend tomorrow. It also exists because it is a cheap way to target practice and practice muscle memory. It is still much more satisfying to fire off your Armalite, Heckler and Koch or AK real steel, but airsoft does have its' charms too. To think otherwise is just elitist bullshit thinking compensating for other physical and/or mental short comings. Both RS and AS are great. Period.
They're pretty cheap, actually. If you're gonna go completely overboard then it's expensive. But it's a fun game to play and is also more effective for training than lasers. I own a real AR and a shotgun but I also play airsoft.
Nah. If i wanna play with my friends I would rather be shooting them with plastic BB's, Instead of .45's. Airsoft is 4 fun dude. So dont be all pissed if someone isnt dropping people in an airsoft war with a real AR
well obviously, if u have an airsoft gun, your gonna take it out and probably play with other people, where u actually shoot them, can u shoot people with real guns? NO! so obviously u should just b quiet cause he probably doesnt want it just 4 target practice and or self defense
actually no. cuz Magpul has an airsoft gun. Plus I think airsoft ppl are buying their products too. IE: PTS CTR stock and "magpuls"(the loop thing that goes on magazines)
Simunition cartridges are LETHAL and not to be used for human targets. You can get paint BBs for Airsoft which will indicate whether or not your target has been hit while wearing their normal tactical gear or layers of gear andor clothing. The idea in Airsoft is not to "feel" the round hit you although, if you've ever been hit with an Airsoft BB you know it hurts like hell and leaves a nice bruise or in some cases even bleeds. The point is to be able to hit a live human target and not kill them.
cre8tor305 2 years ago
Simunition cartridges are dangerous, not lethal. And paintball bbs cannot be used effectively. First, they can only be used in a breach loading pistol. Try loading them in a mag. Second, they are inaccurate and often fail to break.
You can certainly feel a bb. And that is certainly the idea.
Ebsil0n 2 years ago 10
Where?
Markisflippinsweet 2 years ago
It's a shame they never released it.
Markisflippinsweet 2 years ago
released in June 09
magpulasia 2 years ago
Law enforcement and military use RAP4 paint ball m4to train with, they hit you hard but dont kill you, better than this baby airsoft crap which is a joke,
IMnotSAS 2 years ago
Why would you buy a real magazine to be used in a freakin airsoft toy
425TAWS 2 years ago
That rifle is bad ass =D I Like it
AlfieJager 2 years ago 2
It's a toy, no it's not.
Tatsumi67 2 years ago
jew
softairFrank 2 years ago
airsoft?
want to shoot someone with a real AR?
use simunitions bonehaeds. also if your AR jams you ain't taken care of it.
cashisking007 2 years ago
Guys just ignore the "durr get a big boyz gun durr" troll.
Chronobeanz 2 years ago
so fucking true
NKVDdevaint1 2 years ago
Airsoft is a sport, the guns use plastic bbs so that you DON'T KILL THE PEOPLE YOU ARE GOING AGAINST.
FlyngPossum 2 years ago
For one you cannot even own a military operational AR.. You need a form 18 on file with the government.. Thats states that you are either a law enforcement officer.. or that you are military personel.. Also.. if i was to shoot my friends with an AR they would be dead! Airsoft is all about MilSim.. its not about watching "bb's bounce off paper"! If you will notice in the background it sounded as if a skirmish was in progress.
Maiduhn 2 years ago
yeah, but shooting each other with real guns isn't fun, Airsoft is a sport
fingersticks74 2 years ago
That's a pretty near sighted statement.
First of all, you can't play airsoft games with real bullets unless you're suicidal.
Second, bb's are much cheaper than real bullets. Law enforcement has used airsoft for simulations. What you saw in that vid was from Systema, airsoft DESIGNED for training.
Real guns are lethal. Airsoft isn't. If you have an accident with airsoft, the worst that can happen is chipping a tooth or losing an eye. Accidents with real guns can kill you or someone else.
plz.
NoNumbersPl0x 2 years ago 5
I would love to know of a police agency that uses airsoft for training. You have to train in all your gear to be familiar with moving in all that added bulk. You can't feel a toy gun's bb under all that.
Real force on force trainers use stuff called Simunition. Google it.
Airsoft is still fun, I don't mean to slam it, but it's still just a game.
floatingaxehead 2 years ago
Lexington County Sheriff's Department's SWAT team use Systema M4 and MP5 PTWs. First of all they arn't shooting each other, they're simulating on unarmored threats. Plus when you get shot with one they make a very distinctive thudding sound on your vest. Systema was built for Military and Law Enforcement training...the guns break down just like the real ones and work exactly like the real ones.
MudvayneProphet 2 years ago 4
"floating head" - of course it's a game. and i think most airsofters now that. and being a 'game', it's about the fun factor.
gbinuya 2 years ago
Adding to what Cre8tor said, if the FPS of the gun is not enough to be 'felt', you can always upgrade the spring to 500 FPS so you can 'feel' something. Most airsoft guns are bult 1:1 scale meaning it has the same size, and nearly same weight as a real steel version. I would see airsoft weapons used as training against people, while using the real steel for practice shooting and targets.
Alexr197 2 years ago
Real AR's still cost more than Airsoft. And Consider the fact that you can't own a real gun in some places. Airsoft is the next best thing. Do your research first before you make a judgment. Airsoft is cheap, you can get a decent gun, full-auto, and very durable, for $200 bucks. A Real AR, on the other hand, costs as much as a used car and still jams. Oh, and Airsoft allows you to actually shoot other people without killing them.
Skidracer21 2 years ago
Jams really? If your running old mags with bent feed lips then yeah it will jam. Maintain your gear and it will take care of you. Stupid poser airsofters
eftwo 2 years ago
Have you ever thought that some places dont allow you to have a real gun for training if you arent in the army or other law enforcement things?
Importdrifter 2 years ago
Im gonna have to play the devils advocate. I dont really like airsoft per se but can you shoot a real "AR" at other people in war games?? I think you are missing the point of the whole airsoft scene, am i right?
philos491 2 years ago
i love arisoft just as much as the next guy but i have to agree with him it sounds a little wimpy
jedin2 2 years ago
yeah but you really cant shoot your friends with a real gun now can you?
darthbrackett 2 years ago
Airsoft exists because you cannot shoot your best friend 5 times in the same day and still have a best friend tomorrow. It also exists because it is a cheap way to target practice and practice muscle memory. It is still much more satisfying to fire off your Armalite, Heckler and Koch or AK real steel, but airsoft does have its' charms too. To think otherwise is just elitist bullshit thinking compensating for other physical and/or mental short comings. Both RS and AS are great. Period.
PariahOfTheKOHLM 3 years ago
They're pretty cheap, actually. If you're gonna go completely overboard then it's expensive. But it's a fun game to play and is also more effective for training than lasers. I own a real AR and a shotgun but I also play airsoft.
McLuvinzor 3 years ago
Nah. If i wanna play with my friends I would rather be shooting them with plastic BB's, Instead of .45's. Airsoft is 4 fun dude. So dont be all pissed if someone isnt dropping people in an airsoft war with a real AR
ILHAZTZ 3 years ago
well obviously, if u have an airsoft gun, your gonna take it out and probably play with other people, where u actually shoot them, can u shoot people with real guns? NO! so obviously u should just b quiet cause he probably doesnt want it just 4 target practice and or self defense
tribalflames12 3 years ago
cool gun
but is there a bomb about o go off
because of the beeping
BM4A 3 years ago
Yeah, it's Counter Strike.
Epson5000 2 years ago
leave it to real steel...
AndY3607 3 years ago
Nice airsoft, faggot.
dhd1 3 years ago
Oh yeah, magpul is pretty pissed off at the airsoft world for copying their products that they're suing.
deltaecho1 3 years ago
actually no. cuz Magpul has an airsoft gun. Plus I think airsoft ppl are buying their products too. IE: PTS CTR stock and "magpuls"(the loop thing that goes on magazines)
Incoming808 3 years ago 9
Wait...? Magpul already made their own official airsoft gun? I gotta get one of those...
Racr4Lyfe 3 years ago
what incoming said.
bamafan434 3 years ago
Exactly...Magpul is loving it. While most companies complain about airsoft people copying their stuff, Magpul was smart and licensed their designs.
bighitter42 3 years ago 4
ya really, magpul is making so much money off of airsoft its not even funny...
buzzcutjoe 3 years ago 6
well obviously not, cause they made theyre own line
tribalflames12 3 years ago
glock sued every airsoft company making one.
LazyWaffleman 2 years ago
no they didnt
AndY3607 2 years ago
are you an idiot?? if they were pissed why would they have sold the rights in the first place
UTGxFTW 2 years ago
is that a Magpul stock on an airsoft? Wh...why????
danofzanzibar 3 years ago
Cuz you can do that...
bamafan434 3 years ago
because airsofters (myself included) will buy anything curvy they can put on their armalite.
Chronobeanz 2 years ago
This is nice, but anyone can make a Systema powered M4. So, when is the Masada being released?
rws591 3 years ago
It comes without the MAGPUL logo on the body?
Deltasharks 3 years ago
It is come with the Magpul Logo and new AR lower receiver.
magpulasia 3 years ago
you know if they´ll ever make the Magpul MASADA PTS version?
sharkenergia 3 years ago
Magpul PTS is in the process to make Ver II gear box MASADA. PTW project will launch later
magpulasia 3 years ago
im waiting for it too :D that one or the Tavor21
SgtXbox360 3 years ago
what is that? stock 280 fps?
deltaecho1 3 years ago
Magpul PTS AR Carbine with Systema Gear Box. 330 FPS.
magpulasia 3 years ago
I want one, how much lol
ghostmarines 3 years ago
Whats PTS stand for ? Piece of total, well you can figure out the rest. Oh yeah !!!
drh1045 3 years ago
im so jealous. I should've gotten one when it came out :[ nice gun btw
litoaznboi92 3 years ago
very.
rcmamaril 4 years ago
Nice ^^
ZPQTube 4 years ago 2