Byzantium

[Hellasfe1]

very good!!!

[unfukkkmee]

BYZANTIUM IS GREEK

CONSTANTINOPLE IS GREEK

[Strongholddg]

@sasagavric i agree

[Strongholddg]

THe last crusade will free those lands....

[Lhein33]

@Strongholddg The papist Crusades caused a lot of disasters and destructions to the world. We don't another one. The Roman state, the greatest empire on Earth during that age, lost much of its power because of the Crusaders. The sack of Constantinople in 1204 bears withness to this truth.

Do you know what Loukas Notaras said about them? "It's better to see in the midst of the City a turkish turban reigning than a Latin mitre". That was the horror the Crusaders left behind them.

[ctimur]

I feel lucky that I see beautiful traces from Byzantium every day, here in Istanbul, the city of Constantine.

[Hazelrat10]

Turkey should give Istanbul (Constantinople, or Byzantium) back to Greece. It was created by Greeks, it was part of Greece for 2,000 years, and it should remain Greek. So why does a country from Asia minor get to control what is probably the most important city in history, second only to Rome?

[ctimur]

@Hazelrat10 You think so? Then why don't you give your America back to Indians?

And what is next? US leaves Iraq?

What a brilliant idea! Please, just stay in your isolated land dear American citizen. We'll be much happier without such ideas like yours, with our Greek, Armenian, Kurdish and Arabic neighbors.

[Hazelrat10]

@ctimur I would very much like it if we left Iraq. Instead of just stealing oil we switched to green power sources. And do you know what? The Indians were doomed to be conquered. And yes, we were cruel. But we did not destroy one of the greatest civilizations of the ancient world. What WE did was prevent corrupt and greedy monarchs from gaining even more power. Nothing but trouble has come from the Arabic world in the last 10 years.

[Hazelrat10]

@ctimur Hundreds of thousands of people have gone from the middle east to Germany, Italy, Netherlands, France, and the UK. And guess what? NOBODY WANTS THEM. They're causing crime, gang violence, taking jobs, etc.. Need an example? Google "Wilders on trial"

[ctimur]

@Hazelrat10 You sound a little bit racist, or let's say over-nationalist in a polite way, and I hope you're aware of it.

Do you think they are happy to be far away from their home? Maybe you should GOOGLE some close history, like big and powerful countries trying to keep Middle Eastern countries poor and week instead of helping, so they can colonize them. OH, I KNOW ONE! The US!

[ctimur]

@Hazelrat10 My dear friend, your government has very clever colonization strategies. Like imposing Middle Easterners as terrorist and Middle East as a terror zone, and conquering that zone in the name of helping, bringing peace. HOW NICE! And Turkey should give Istanbul back to Greece? Have you ever been to Greece or Turkey? How could you give suggestions from miles away and stir up people. Greek and Byzantine are different things, and so are Greece and Byzantium. GOOGLE more!

Regards.

Done.

[Hazelrat10]

@ctimur I'm completely aware of what Byzantium, Constantinople, and Istanbul are as they are all the exact same thing. Byzantium is a city, and Greece is a country. Greek and Byzantine are nearly the same thing as the eastern roman empire became extremely hellenized after the collapse of the western roman empire. And why would we want to colonize some 3rd world country? And for the record, I've been to France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, and Greece.

[AegeanKing]

@ctimur Greek and Byzantine are NOT different things. Up until the 19th century, the Greeks were still calling themselves "Romaioi" meaning "Romans". The Greek language was called "romaika" meaning "Roman". The Byzantine Empire, was ingrained with Hellenic culture and language and therefore is a part of the Greek cultural legacy. That is why the Ecumenical Patriarch is Greek and that is why the name Constantinople is Greek. YOU need to google more..

[ctimur]

@AegeanKing yeah yeah right... then i guess that's why roman roman people were excluded ın greece when they had to move there after world war I.... Greek (Hellenic) and Roman are NOT the same things. Roman means Anatolian, Rum= Anatolia. İ don't need to GOOGLE my dear friend, all i need to do is go out and walk a bit. Because I'm Constantinopolean.

Thanks, regards.

[AegeanKing]

@ctimur RUM means Greek. Rumca means Greek language. The fighters of the Greek revolution called themselves Romans. You obviously know NOTHING about Greek history or society. Greeks are the eastern Romans. I have already told you. It was not until the 19th century that the word "Greek" became popular again. If you could read Greek then you could read the Memoirs of the Hero of the Greek revolution Theodoros Kolokotronis and you could see that I am right.

[ctimur]

@AegeanKing Dear friend. RUM means ANATOLİAN. Ever heard of Sultanate of Rum? in other words: Seljuq Sultanate of ANATOLIA. And what about Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi? İt means: Mevlana Celaleddin The Anatolian. Byzantine does NOT mean GREEK, it means GREEK, LYDİAN, PHRYGIAN, HITTITE, PONTOS and many, just like OTTOMAN does NOT only mean TURKISH but also GREEK, RUM, ARMENİAN, SERBİAN, SYRIAN, ect...

sorry that i used capitals. just wanted to show stresses.

[AegeanKing]

@ctimur No, you are WRONG! During the Byzantine Empire there was no such thing as Phrygian, Hittite or Lydian. Pontians are GREEK. Lastly, the Hittites DISAPPEARED a long time ago way before the Roman Empire and the Lydians were HELLENIZED. The Byzantine Empire means HELLENIC CULTURE AND HELLENIC LANGAUGE. Understand?? Rum means Roman, not Anatolian. That is why the Greek language is called RUMCA. The Sultanate of Rum refers to the "Roman lands". Anatolia was eastern Roman land.

[AegeanKing]

@ctimur the word "Rum" comes from the Arabic word for Roman Empire. Just google it. Mehmed himself called himself "Kaiser-i-Rum" meaning Caesar of Rome. Why would you bring the Hittites into this conversation??? They disappeared before the Roman Empire. The Lydians, lycians, leleges and Phrygians were ALL HELLENIZED. Hence the disappearance of their language. The name Constantinople is GREEK. the name Hagia Sophia is Greek. The name Anatolia is Greek.

[tonymas004]

@ctimur my respect to you man.my name is anatoly

[ctimur]

@AegeanKing this is what I know. so can we please keep this conversation going with e-mails? i would like to do that. i'm sending my mail address to you, with private message.

[AegeanKing]

@ctimur The name Byzantium comes from the Greek King Byzas.

[tonymas004]

@ctimur please write something about anatolia if you have time.it's very interesting.

[divustitus]

Jelena Dragas, Serbian princess was the mother among others to his heroic majesty Constantine XI.

[jerusalem1002]

Byzantium Lives !!!!!

[pralibaba]

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[AlexTDJ]

yes it was not just Greek it was Greek Orthodox

[gaastra12]

no it was greek you idiot, it was hellenized, and it was also called ''empire of the hellenes'' in the medievals primarly. the people spoke the greek language and had the greek orthodox religion also. without the byzantine empire the language was never saved to now, since it was picked up as an national language after the 2 halves of the roman empire splitted. Byzantion aka Constantinoupolis (greek names) was a greek colony from greek settlers from Megara

[RozSatyros]

would you mind trying to prove what you say?

Because if I am not mistaken both "Hellenas" (Ελληνας) and "Greek" (Γραικός), two words that define us Greeks, were considered insults

The latter was a synonym of the word coward!!!!

[Lacos77]

salute Bezantium salute Russia

[vasoul4Div]

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[ORTHODOXPOWER3]

ORTHODOXIA RULEZZZ

[joel1923]

What do the markings in the middle of the circle represent?

[nomust]

It is the monogram of the Palaiologi, the last ruling dynasty of the Roman Empire (Byzantium).

[healingreiki]

Η ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΝΗ ΣΗΜΑΙΑ ΜΕ ΤΟ ΣΥΜΒΟΛΟ ΤΩΝ ΠΑΛΑΙΟΛΟΓΩΝ

[sicilia313]

no its just your an idiot

[albo4ever777]

The Flag on this DVD IS the Albanian FLAG...the old Greek flag was with OLIVE TREE

[experiment83]

my God you are very idiot...

[shenmitrot]

arbereshe of italy are the last original bizantine

[experiment83]

you are idiot too...

[ballkan72]

You have to look at yourself befor you calling the others a idiot. What shenmitrot is trying to say is that arbereshe of italy and arvanitas of greece which are same people are the last becouse they emigrated in italy on 1480-s. On the same years Otoman empier destroyed Greece and change everything around for more then 300 years but the one who emigrated have not change couse Turks did not get there. If you can not understend I will writ that in Greek. But the way Polopones was called More

[experiment83]

you have right, i dident understand....i m realy sorry

shenmitrot

[TheRiverOfidiotMan]

Byzantium song, music By: zantium.

[libaneseag]

The Magna Grecia end Sicily borns Greeks and now Italians love theirs brothers Greeks of Greece. WE LOVE YOU and the Greece our ancient land. We never will forget that!!!!

[McBinary]

what song is that?

[AlexTDJ]

there is no song. It's just a flag (used as avatar)

[McBinary]

yeah it's a joke you know - how some idiot asks what the song is on every youtube video - nvm

Yay for the Eastern Roman Empire