Bogosity Ep. 2: Creationism EXPANDED&REMASTERED Pt. 2

[hobbitsarecool]

2:03 that face is hilarious. Only the most stupid things in the world can make a man pull that face.

[payot]

Sounds like creationist believe that evolution is like you see in pokemon.

[Dogmeat1950]

at 7:35 that music playing was made for a U.S Marine add lol. WTF lol.

[shanedk]

@Dogmeat1950 All of the music here was composed by Kevin MacLeod, as the credits say.

[shanedk]

@Dogmeat1950 Oops, sorry; I just saw the part of the video you're talking about, and that was from the original creationist video, so it wasn't MacLeod. That was exactly as it was on the original video.

[MomoTheBellyDancer]

Of course, explosions CAN lead to order. What about that nice, round crater left behind by a artillery shell, for instance. Or what about a mushroom cloud. That looks like some form of order to me.

Of course, the Big Bang is not an explosion, so the point is moot.

[tetleydidley]

whats the unit of measurement of bogosity that you used??

[shanedk]

@tetleydidley For this one, I used the "microLenet," named after a professor of AI who probably doesn't deserve it. Since then, I've used my own unit: the milliGeller.

[RaustBD]

May I recommend the Hovind?

It has a nice ring to it for an increment of bogosity.

[jxvwp]

5:20

Hey I can make an explosion that produces water (or at least water-vapor). Take a balloon filled with hydrogen and ignite it. There is your water

[hugesinker]

Were you ever a creationist, Shane?

[Retardretroguy]

That Hawking quote is actually quite silly evidence either way. If one was to claim there is no Big Bang, it would mean (according to Hawking) that there is no room for creator. So it's a losing situation for creationists who wan't to claim there was no Big Bang.

Then again, to my knowledge it's and old quote, from when Hawking was wery doubtful of the Big Bang and tried to find evidence for eternal universe. I fail to remember which evidence made him change his mind toward Big Bang.

[shanedk]

It's an old quote, but it's not THAT old. He's accepted the Big Bang for a very long time. The quote is from A Brief History of Time.

[Retardretroguy]

I know where it's from, and in first edition of Brief History, he still gives doubt to Big Bang. I've read two editions of the book, but I don't remember if that quote was there in latter one. Anyway it only takes creator away from eternal universe, so it works against "non big bang" creationism anyway.

[nonantianarchist]

This just in: excess bogon exposure may be linked to brain cancer. More at 11.

[Surhotchaperchlorome]

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[FlailingJunk]

Former child star... and complete idiot

LOL

[GumbaMasta]

He should've stayed with staring in FMVs for video games. I still have fond memories of him playing the part of Chauncy, orphaned boy that has been raised by a herd of kind cows.

[pyrobryan]

Only problem here is that you contradict yourself. On one hand you say (or imply) that the universe has always existed and therefore there was no need to create it. Then you say that the big bang created space and time and before the big bang there was nothing. The latter renders the former moot. Pick one pony and ride it. Personally, I don't think the big bang created the universe. I think the universe created the big bang. Expansion/Contraction cycle.

lol @ crocoduck.

[shanedk]

Nothing in the Big Bang requires a cause--but nothing precludes it, either. The Big Bounce theory may be true, or M-theory, or it may be that the universe is completely self-contained, in which case there was no beginning and the Big Bang singularity was an ordinary point in space-time like any other.

[HoDTulkas]

*heavy breathing*... To name a few. ---> lol

[xoblackout]

great job. im going to look into this some more. :)

[johnd94]

Stephen Hawking's voice box sounds very intellectual.

[Albukhshi]

@ 1:40

"former child star, and cmplete idiot, kirk Cameron.."

LOL!! the most fitting description in light of his ideas XD

[DahStranger]

I got the whole "big bang was an explosions" a few times. It seems that Christians neither know anything about science, or even the bible. By defending creation, they are ironically breaking more commandments than they are keeping. It's like that saying about airbags.

[Albukhshi]

very true.

[Surhotchaperchlorome]

2:30-2:35:

correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't new characteristics in a branch arise through random mutations?

You yourself showed an example of this in your pwnage Olympics video.

Just trying to be sure and help. :3

[shanedk]

I was talking about the traits they have in common. They could get a common trait through convergent evolution (bird wings and bat wings), but it'd be obvious that this happened.

[minime00]

One more thing, when i was in school YOUR, yes YOUR evolutionary science book TAUGHT THE BIG BANG AS AN EXPLOSION which put everything into it's place! so you are wrong sir...i'm sure you know cause you were in school 30 years ago i hope?

[shanedk]

Then the book is WRONG. It was NOT an explosion! It was an EXPANSION!!!

[minime00]

then you should understand the problems that science itself has created, there are way to many different versions out there. that is not the fault of people that is the fault of science.

what about the other things i said? with your circular reasoning's?

[shanedk]

No, it's the fault of STUPID FUCKING CREATIONISTS who interfere with the content of textbooks!!!

[minime00]

@shanedk Is your view still the same?

[shanedk]

@minime00 Yep.

[cfltheman]

You mean the books that were written for middle and high school students? I would guess it would say "explosion" so that a child could understand it. I'm sure that a college textbook written for young adults would explain the theory in better detail.

[minime00]

all your "transitional" fossils look like real fish, and some of those are alive today if i knew the name i would say it but i don't just know what it looks like, and guess what.... it is a fish lol... Debunking yourself in this video!

[shanedk]

Yes, many are. So what? Coelocanths being alive today does NOT rule out the ancestral form Coelocanthus being a transitional.

Once again, creationists show how clueless they are.

[minime00]

Second tell me how life happened without oxygen?

[shanedk]

LOTS of life forms live without oxygen. You just don't get multicellular life without it because of the lack of energy. We have no way of knowing how many organisms started to move towards being multicellular and died off.

We only had oxygen about a billion years ago when cyanobacteria evolved. Once there was a nice amount of oxygen in the atmosphere, multicellular life took off.

[minime00]

transitions would debunk evolution? yet you just said you found tons of them? LOL

There's not much difference between humans and a banana either you twit!

Good job on stealing information from other people too

by the way darwin was not a doctor he went to go collect bugs lol... you fool

An explosion of space would make boundaries so then your making evolution look faulty right there thank you :)

You must say where every composition came from too... you can't just say the big bang DUH

[shanedk]

"transitions would debunk evolution?"

The crockoduck would NOT be a transition. See my video "Fuzzy logic and the definition of species."

"An explosion of space would make boundaries"

It was an EXPANSION, not an explosion, and no it wouldn't.

Don't go calling someone else a twit while making it clear that you're a complete ignoramus about what you're talking about.

[minime00]

first part of your video "there are transitional fossil's all over the place" no intermediate fossil's anywhere.... "bogus" you say...

then later you said, transitional fossil's would debunk evolution.

so i don't know what i'm talking about sir?

Fossils' are everywhere... then you say we can't base it all on fossils' cause like i said fossil's are a rare occurrence? wow sir please stick with one thing, your circular reasoning works only on the weak minded fools!

[shanedk]

Did you watch the video or not? Crocoduck would NOT be a transitional fossil!!! Ducks and crocodiles ARE NOT ON THE SAME EVOLUTIONARY LINE!!!

[minime00]

Secondly your saying the big bang was only an expansion... your changing things around apparently... so it was a hot core then it just expanded... wow, where is the logic in that?

First it was an explosion that was billions of miles across

then it was millions of miles across

then it was hundreds, then it was a dot...

what was the outside source that created the expansion then sir?

You don't even know what the big bang says because it's so complex... then people twist it? lol how silly

[shanedk]

"so it was a hot core"

No, no hot core, no space, no time, no nothing. It was the dimensions of space and time that expanded!

You don't even know the BASICS of what you're talking about, and you don't even have the sense to realize it!

[minime00]

okay? i dunno where you are getting this from but here is the model of the big Bang

According to the Big Bang model, the universe expanded from an extremely dense and hot state and continues to expand today. A common analogy explains that space itself is expanding

your definition is obviously different huh?

still why are you ignoring my question about your circular reasoning... why did you say it would debunk evolution, then you stated there are many of those things?

[shanedk]

WAY too simple. The universe expanded from a point of zero size (which had no energy and thus no temperature), went through an inflationary period which expanded very rapidly, allowing the formation of energy and matter from quantum fluctuations, then slowed allowing stars and galaxies to form, only now beginning to accelerate again due to Dark Energy.

There are many TRANSITIONALS. CROCODUCK WOULD NOT BE A TRANSITIONAL!!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT???

Do you have problems READING???

[minime00]

Okay simple laws of energy... energy can only be borrowed or exchanged... it cannot come from nothing... hence a turbine moved by water... it's a transfer of energy, it came from somewhere. so that is invalid i'm sorry. you can have energy come from nothing.

[shanedk]

Look up the Casimir Effect. Look up Hawking Radiation. You CAN get energy from nothing as long as the conservation laws are upheld. Constantly, in the vacuum of space, particle-antiparticle pairs are being formed and then annihilate each other. Separate them quickly, and they become real particles.

[minime00]

well then there are contradictions in laws... just pick the ones that suit you right?... thats silly.

are you talking about the purposed theory of anti matter? because there is absolutely no proof of anti matter... that is why they are putting things down into the earth to even figure out if it exist... crystals of some kind yet they haven't found one thing. So you can't really bring that up seriously.

[shanedk]

"well then there are contradictions in laws"

No, no contradictions! The Conservation law just says the NET energy must remain constant!

"because there is absolutely no proof of anti matter"

Balderdash! It's created all the time by nuclear processes!

[minime00]

yes i was confusing it with dark matter, i should know this cause the fermi lab is doing experiments on anti matter

[ytmoog]

"because there is absolutely no proof of anti matter."

It has been detected, measured and created.

In fact the stuff is made daily by Physicists.

It is even used today in medical imaging. (PET Scan)

There is plenty of proof for it.

[minime00]

oops sorry confused anti matter with dark matter

[minime00]

do you have two different names? anyways casimir effect...can't possibly work for the big, there has to be structure in order for it to occur if you pull things apart the field disappears. So there is a problem when you expand something as big as space and expect it to hold together.

[minime00]

However, the existence of Hawking radiation has never been observed. and if science is based also on observations this cannot be taken as fact yet.

[shanedk]

Yes, it has, through the SokolovTernov effect, and the Casimer Effect has been confirmed REPEATEDLY through experimentation.

You're arguing with OBSERVED FACT!!!

[minime00]

So they can observe incomplete fossil's growing? there's a problem they have a lack of evidence for the casimer effect.. the big boom explosion of evolution...

show me the experiments then... show me the facts.

[shanedk]

"there's a problem they have a lack of evidence for the casimer effect."

It's been VERIFIED EXPERIMENTALLY!!! SEVERAL TIMES!!!

Just look it up!!!

[VisitingXenoc133]

someone should genetically engineer a crocoduck for the lulz(hope i said that right)

on a more serious topic my parents attend this bible study and i think they are going to be watching Cameron videos, I'm worried about them!!!

[atlant80]

Shane, I think you also should have mentioned how nuclear fusion produces the heavier elements and those make up our planet.

[soundwaveshadlow]

haha well said kirk cameron is a dick

[Teirusu155]

to the opening statement: It's actually fascinating, to me, that we have the fortune of fossils we DO have... especially with things like Dakota

[lowcomedy]

That's why scientists use a thing called 'imaginary time' when describing the singularity that was once the universe prior to the expansion.

[shanedk]

It's called "imaginary time" because you need imaginary numbers (numbers based on the square root of -1) to describe it.

In reality, "imaginary" numbers are every bit as real as "real" numbers.

[lowcomedy]

Thanks for the elaboration.

Great series!

[narcissusdark]

another great vid...

[OmarF1]

Hahahaha "formerly childstar and complete idiot" priceless. Keep the good work mate.

[protogenxl]

An even easier way to kill the same composition same planet theroy. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

[adamwebb1]

This series is excellent keep 'em coming

[JonathanClement140]

IT'S KIRK! NOT KURT! BLARGH! DX

[shanedk]

Yeah, I've fixed it in the DVD version. YouTube won't let me upload a corrected video without losing the view count, comments, etc.

[soulinite]

Great series! Truly this video is a mighty bitch slap for a more reasonable world!

[fuunguus]

We are supermonkeys! The truth.

[Zlane]

As I told Randi:

"Fuck it Randi, give them the prize of 1$ million dollars, they have all proven to be SUPERnaturally stupid"

[7410n0]

How many takes did it take for you to name all those fossils correctly?

Great vids.

[yastunt]

fossilization is a rare event. .sounds like an excuse for not having enough evidence. .as for the transitional examples. .most of them looked like 100 percent fish. .sure you're not imagining things? . .

[shanedk]

No, it's the truth. Making up things to explain a dearth of evidence is something that creationists do, not scientists.

EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is a transitional. Homologically speaking, they're halfway between two other species. Oh, but we should throw all of that out because some nimrod commenting on YouTube says they LOOK like fish even though he has absolutely no experience or expertise on the subject.

Right.

[Baszottbivaly]

I completely feel why you're intellectually compelled to vanquish these fools in your videos, but why do you even bother with such idiots this reply was posted to?

I'm not complaining mind you, I'm just curious.

[shanedk]

Same reason: because other people on the fence might read it and be convinced.

[Baszottbivaly]

Yes, that seems a logical answer. But what I really wanted to know was your motive to make a difference. Why do you care about this in particular?

[ccheng21]

"Here is former Child Actor, and complete idiot, Kirk Cameron"

my favorite line

[generaleskimo]

This video is absolutely hilarious, and I can't believe that it has only 1552 views. There are so many videos with way more views that are unbelievably stupid. I could probably link to 1000 of them in about as much time as it takes to click 8 times, and cut & paste the average youtuber's video list.

[nemesisnick66]

Lmao 0:41-0:45 maybe she should try turning her head.

kill the bitch.

[digitised]

I nearly died when i saw that lmfao

Its classic creationism when they fail at lying in their own expensively produced, promotional material.

Well spotted shane!

[nemesisnick66]

im not shane

[JonathanClement140]

Hey, what is your explanation of Hot Jupiters?

[shanedk]

Huh?

[AncelDeLambert]

I love that Scott Adams look-alike.

[Herufaia]

Well ya see these guys are complete and utter *gets to the 3 minute mark* bun-.........the bible is right........god is real.......*drools*.......evil­ution is- *gets past the folgers creationsim*and further more these people are sick lying religous nutcases who have no idea of......wait what was I talking about?

[futurevegan]

*applause* this was another GREAT video. you are an inteligent and wonderful person, congratulations on making such an awe inspiring series of videos.

[UrbanZenpk]

LOL here is child acter and complete idiot Kurt Cameron - Priceless

[spunkeez]

ha, a failed child star tries to explain genetics, creationsist are toooooo dumb

[mattb521]

"Here's former child star, and complete idiot"..hahahaha

[saken]

These are some cool videos. Thanks for uploading.

[bornagain001]

Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

[QregTheBlueMonkey]

Pretty words. But meaningless.

[shanedk]

And they're not even his; that's the sad part. It's bad enough having to plagiarize to make a point, but doing it without actually making any kind of point whatsoever...well, all I can say is, "typical creationist."

[shanedk]

He has now posted this exact same post, verbatim, several times without addition or modification, and without responding to any of the replies. As such, I have blocked bornagain001 for spamming/flooding and deleted the duplicate posts.

[supersmash43]

It's like creationists interepreting the hominid fossil records; either the fossil is ape or human--nothing in between! And also, IF some of them are so relunctant to admit that micro-evolution happens over short period of time than how can't have macro evolution over a long period of time? They don't even know their own facts and they have everybody believing them.

[JonathanClement140]

Shane, what does the bogometer say about their bogus levels?

IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thkaal]

Quick question, does the bogometer measure levels of bogosity in nanoliters? And how many bogons are there in a nanoliter?

[shanedk]

According to the CMU guys, the unit of bogosity is the microLenat.

[IntermittentSprocket]

The big bang is beyond me, it's bigger than the whole wide universe it's bigger than all of us!

[butterfly55755]

Could you do a segment on UFO's ?

[shanedk]

As I say to everyone who suggests a topic, it all depends on the videos I can find. I'd need at least one pro-UFO video to debunk, and hopefully get one or two from the skeptic side to help me debunk it. And it's that way with any topic. It's all about the videos.

[Jenniferwey]

you should do one about UFO's. It would make a good topic. Try to look for videos.

[shanedk]

I know one I'd like to include: the Phoenix Lights. Supposedly it was a UFO over Phoenix, and the lights went out in an order that can only (supposedly) be applied to intelligence.

Someone took a picture of the area in daytime from the same location as the video, and used it to both register and stabilize the video, and to show it in relation to everything. Turns out the lights disappeared behind a mountain--right at the location of an Air Force Base who dropped flares that night.

[personzorz]

I'm taking an astrophysics course right now, and from what I've heard the deal with the terrestrial planets not having hydrogen and helium is just a bit more complicated. The idea is also that in addition to the solar wind pressure, close to the center of the solar nebula temperatures were higher and H2O / NH3 / CH3 couldn't solidify, so the protoplanets that formed were smaller and just never got the gravity to hold the gases in the first place.

[shanedk]

Okay, but I'm not changing it AGAIN.

[personzorz]

OH I never meant that! What you said is perfectly true, any we had in here certainly got blown off but we probably got a lot less early on than the outer planets. Just something I thought was cool interesting.

[DaWi12345]

oh. there is one thing i want to say about the video. the sound are to loud. e.g. the "warning" at "truth 2". it's veeery loud.

perhaps you could lift up the sound of you voice.

greetings

DaWi

[shanedk]

All of the sounds are at the same level in my editing software. The problem is that the sound on the creationist video is horrible.

[reallyevilcanine]

The sound of every creationist video is horrible. I find them much easier to sit through by turning the sound off.

[Wingzero12346]

can a bomb from a terrorist form a rolex? wtf? Is the "terrorist" part really necessary to explain what a bomb is?

[eequalsfb]

"Here's former child star, and complete idiot, Kirk Kameron." Lmao. I think I peed a little.

[DaWi12345]

yeah. i laughed very loud at this part, too.

but: how this idiots think evolution works?

btw. who is this other idiot who look so dramatic dumb (2:03)

i wonder what he's (IF he's) thinking...

"this funny pictures make me believe in creationism"...???

[eequalsfb]

I'm pretty sure the guy at 2:03 was a proponent of evolution. The blank look on his face was likely the result of Kirks' super-good explaination about how his Crocoduck makes ALL THE REST OF US look like fools when we talk about evolution. I guess Kirk told US.

[shanedk]

That was Brian Sapient of the Rational Response Squad. He was debating them at the time. The look on his face is priceless; it's like, "How totally stupid can one person be???"

[DeadBabyJesus]

I think it's funny that one of the first lines of the background soundtrack playing in the Folger video is "I can't get past the evidence". Ha ha.

[shanedk]

Yeah. That was truly a surreal moment for me when I watched the video for the first time.

[ThePhascolarctos]

That "<--intermediate fossil" part really had me laughing out loud. The sad part is still that Janet's nonsense is so ridiculous, nobody should have to debunk it. I can't believe this is necessary and yet, I see that it is.

[shanedk]

Yeah, that was a last-minute add.

[leporidus]

Well, what IS north of the north pole is of course ... the Flying Spaghetti Monster (praised be Its noodly appendages). Du-uh.

[thkaal]

Ramen and sauce bless.

[nethius]

That clip with Phil Plait; what is that from?

[shanedk]

Watch the credits all the way to the end...it's from the TAM4 DVD, and I include the URL to order it from.

[Megasroxlol]

"...to name a few."

"here's a former child star, and complete idiot Kirk Cameron."

Name calling is bad, but I laughed loudly

good as ever <3

[lovasip]

The creationists' obsession of denying the Big Bang is strange. At least the theory states that there was something as "the beginning". The Catholic Church praised it in the 50s, until Father Lematrie the "father" of the theory told the pope to separate faith and science.

[BeforeTheNoose]

"here is child star and idiot kirk cameron" lol funny