"it's just a matter of using the right words." - I don't think you realize the contradiction you've just made. That is precisely what philosophy deals with, the matter of word usage in propositions.
Let's not make the mistake of confusing truth with validity.
Ultimately Rowan, your first premise is based on a half-truth. Science is is not against dogma in the sense that you are assuming. Rather science cannot test the idea of dogma, because it is not designed to do so. Therefore NEITHER a rejection NOR an acceptance of dogma is being made by the scientific method, if there is indeed no method that science uses to validate or invalidate it.
Therefore science and religion are NOT required to be polar opposites.
Oh they're not 'required' to be polar opposites. The problem is when religion makes baseless claims that conflict with the evidence demonstrated and supported by science.
Additionally, the cornerstone of modern science is peer-review, where ideas are run through the gauntlet of the entire community before being accepted in any real sense.
The problem lies in your first premise. First you present a methodology to the table, which is science, but you place an IDEA into the equation, that idea is dogma. The next problem is that you are assigning the fallacy of equivocation, by first referring to dogma as a general concept, then presenting it by it's INDIVIDUAL claims. I strongly advise that you keep the meanings to your terms equal. (cont.)
Wrong. The 'idea' is not dogma. It doesn't become dogma unless it's blindly asserted and unquestioned like many of the claims of religion - which is really the big dividing line between the two.
"it's just a matter of using the right words." - I don't think you realize the contradiction you've just made. That is precisely what philosophy deals with, the matter of word usage in propositions.
Let's not make the mistake of confusing truth with validity.
BassP86 2 years ago
Does not address the fact that evolution of the nose and the formation of the moon are not analogous to one another.
Mathenaut 1 year ago
According to RowanEvans, it can if you use the right words. ;)
BassP86 1 year ago
Ultimately Rowan, your first premise is based on a half-truth. Science is is not against dogma in the sense that you are assuming. Rather science cannot test the idea of dogma, because it is not designed to do so. Therefore NEITHER a rejection NOR an acceptance of dogma is being made by the scientific method, if there is indeed no method that science uses to validate or invalidate it.
Therefore science and religion are NOT required to be polar opposites.
BassP86 2 years ago
Oh they're not 'required' to be polar opposites. The problem is when religion makes baseless claims that conflict with the evidence demonstrated and supported by science.
Additionally, the cornerstone of modern science is peer-review, where ideas are run through the gauntlet of the entire community before being accepted in any real sense.
Religion does not have that kind of integrity.
Mathenaut 1 year ago
The problem lies in your first premise. First you present a methodology to the table, which is science, but you place an IDEA into the equation, that idea is dogma. The next problem is that you are assigning the fallacy of equivocation, by first referring to dogma as a general concept, then presenting it by it's INDIVIDUAL claims. I strongly advise that you keep the meanings to your terms equal. (cont.)
BassP86 2 years ago
Wrong. The 'idea' is not dogma. It doesn't become dogma unless it's blindly asserted and unquestioned like many of the claims of religion - which is really the big dividing line between the two.
Mathenaut 1 year ago
When a strict heirarchy is organizing science, it does start to behave in a way, which does resemble a large religious-organization's behaviour.
brentpieczynski 2 years ago
Specifically?
Mathenaut 2 years ago
The leadership does present dogma, with people following; as a result of, ruling through fear.
brentpieczynski 2 years ago
That isn't very specific...
Mathenaut 2 years ago