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  • How is it with SSD drive

  • dude this is a tutorial not a race thx though

  • Raid 10 > ALL

  • @C4Radon JBOD > RAID

  • @muffemod cant tell if trolling or just extremely impractical.

  • @foxman105 When you raid controller dies enjoy your data loss.

  • @muffemod And that happens like... one in one thousand? besides onboard raid controlers are very reliable and you also loose youre data with JTBOD which has no performance boost only connects separate phisical HDDs.

  • @foxman105 One in one thousand alright let's use that. With millions of raid controllers out there it's pretty safe to say that raid controllers fail on a daily occurrence. It happens more often then you think. With JBOD you don't lose the data if the controller dies. The performance boost is nominal at best with SSDs, which lose TRIM support in raid configuration. Also firmware updates to the drives may require a complete format in raid configuration but not in JBOD.

  • @muffemod RAID controllers fail on daily occurrence, VGAs fail on daily occurrence, Motherboards, cpus, RAM... everything fails on daily occurrence. Its a risk that you cant eliminate. Now when we have 2 discs in RAID0 the risk of failure doubles. is less reliable than a sigle disc but it also (theoretically) doubles speed. Id you have important data just store them on a different HDD (which might also fail on daily occurrence). Oh... how many times have you updated HDDS firmware?

  • @foxman105 I update firmware when a new one comes out. God, typical Playstation Generation question.

  • @muffemod Have you ever heard of the phrase "If its not broken dont fix it."? Messing with firmware is the easiest way to kill a HW component.

  • @foxman105 ENJOY YOUR NO GAINS BRO.

  • @muffemod You just run out of arguments... and if speed is no gaid buy a 5400 green disk and stfu.

  • @foxman105 TROLLED HARD.

  • @muffemod Nope just a sore looser... you.

  • @foxman105 FUCKIN OWNED!

  • @foxman105 Your math is flawed because the risk of data loss in RAID0 is actually more than double, because you forgot to include the chance that the raid controller fails in the calculation.

  • @muffemod In my opinion its still worth the performance. I have RAID 0 in my PC for the 2nd year now and no issues have yet occurred. I've already written... if you want safety create a backup on a third disk or simply dont use raid.

  • RAID 0 FTW -.-

  • what would be the best setup for a 500gb HDD and a 120gb SSD?

  • @exploremagic23 just use the hdd for every thing but have gaming and os files on the ssd

  • always go for RAID 1 IMO

  • @gcampton666 You right I also using SATA not IDE my computer rating is 5.9

  • Im going both haha (1+0) on two arrays :D

  • Hi, does anyone know if it maters if both disks are the same capacity but are different models / vendors ? Thanks :)

  • @TheTechGuy007 why dont you people use google? Look this is a lengthy explanation, just type your question in a search engine.

  • @foxman105 I did that already you smart arse & didn't get a straight answer, hence why i asked on this video duh. So why don't people like You, Go F@*! Yourselves! :)

  • @TheTechGuy007 Then you cant use search engines. When you type in RAID SETUP first 4 links explain EVERYTHING... so my answer is still the same UTFG. 

  • I can't really understand why raid 0 is a bit faster. It's unsecure if one hard drive fails, then you lose all your data. I would choose raid 1 for security. Then i have a backup of my operating system. But that Is my opinion.

  • @LellePrinter82

    Master and slave? U mean with Ide-drives?

    Sata-drives doesn't use that.

  • @tuke8 The amount of space you have when using RAID 0 is based on the SMALLEST of the two (or more) drives, so if you have a 500GB and a 1TB, you're only going to get 1TB of space (500GB + 500GB). So yes, it's a good idea to use identical HDDs.

  • do i need identical HDDs for raid 0 ?

  • so you CAN use raid 0 in one single drive? thanks in advance

  • @Miguelb772 no, you cant. RAID (as stated by Rodney) are arrays of diskS, meaning always 2 or more.

  • Can I do partitions in raid 0 or in raid 1?

  • @strangerlover11

    only in raid 1.

  • @LellePrinter82 thanks but its not a good idea to keep one hard drive as master and the next as slave you

    can copy any things to your slave drive and no need to worry for failure.....

  • OCZ REVO DRIVE chuck norris has one and it blends

  • can any1 help me? can u set up RAID if my motherboard do not support RAID, and i dont ave the hardware to set if up. basically im asking if u can set up RAID just by software. please reply as soon as possible

  • @kemiost55 nope. Atleast i don't think so ;)

  • Thanks for the answer. Very clear and straight to the point!

  • What do you think of this setup: Quad SSD RAID 0 image backed by Dual 1TB RAID 1?

  • @c01cullen 4 SSDs on a RAID0 sound like trouble to me, because if a single disk fails, your whole data is lost. But SSDs are really reliable, and you're saying you have a back up.

    That is what we call RAID 10, search it.

  • What about raid 0 of ssd, what do you prefer

  • I am getting a SSD (that supports trim) for W7 64 OS, and i intend to have 2 160GB 7,200 HDD's in raid 0 for game files etc, and a 750 GB HDD for storage. My MB M4A89TD PRO, has 6x6Gb/s Sata III ports, and in Bios, I can set 1-4, and 5-6 in IDE, AHCI or raid. Please advise as to MB settings. I assume I need 750Gb & Sata DVD-RW in 5 & 6 set IDE. Will TRIM be supported on my SSD if I use raid setting on 1-4 ? Or do I leave it AHCI and use OS to raid other drives?

  • would that be faster then a ssd ?

  • if i put 2 or 3 hd 7500rpm 320 gb 16mb cash . on a raid 0 set up will i get faster load timees?

  • so if i have a 320gb hd 16mb cash . and i run a raid 0 and get 2 hds that are the same . will i load games faster?

  • @TheHeroOfSatan if you have 2 of the 320 gb hard drives and run raid 0 on them, yes they run faster but if one of the hard drives fail the other is unusable as the way raid 0 stores information.

  • @Anthony152152 thats good because i hate computer data the easer it becomes unusable the happer i am .. i don't like to save anything i don't need . that will be what i will do .. what if i hook up a ssd to my hhd ? would that be ok lol. ?

  • @TheHeroOfSatan sorrry dude i dont think you could hook up a ssd to a hhd. you might be able to but it would be slower than the ssd by itsslef. raid 0 is only a big benifet if you have 2 ssds or 2 normall hdds. raid 0 on a ssd iss really fast, and raid 0 on a normal hdd is faster but not as fast as a ssd

  • @TheHeroOfSatan you could tryy but the RAID space would only be as bit as the biggest hard drive. so if you have a 1tb hdd and a 60gb ssd the raid space in raid 0 would be 120gb across the 2 and on the hdd the rest of the space i think you can just store normally on

  • @TheCheapWayGamer No, you have to reinstall your OS when changing to any type of RAID setup, as all data is erased from the HDDs you're using for the RAID as part of the process of configuring a RAID array.

  • well if i have one hard drive do i need raid configuration ?

  • @mrjoker432 You cant make a RAID configuration without atleast 2 discs...

  • rodney, in the description, you spelt how wrong! just letting you know :D

  • i think raid 1 is best

  • @blowupuate13 Raid 1 is best if you want high data security, and Raid 0 is best if performance is more important.

  • I was wondering when setting up this raid0 setup do the hard drives need to be the same model and size?

    thanks jay

  • @jayketterman2 They don't have to be the exact same model and size, but it's best for reliability if they are.

  • @jayketterman2 If you put a 250GB HDD together with a 500GB HDD the RAID configuration will only use 500GB of the 750GB total, so you will lose 250GB but it will work.

  • can you have 2 drives in raid 0 then those 2 in raid 1 with another drive?

  • What is Better to get -

    Raid 0/1/5  ?

    Im want to get Gaming laptop

  • Just had 2 quick questions, when you set up a Raid 0 between two drives does it only appear as one drive when you boot into your OS? Also if the two drives you are using have different speeds how does this affect it?

  • hi,, will RAID 1 give the same performance as RAID 0? Difference only being hard-drive space? thanks in advance ;)

  • Hey man, i love your vids, very informative and straight to the point. So I wanted to ask how many drives for the fastest raid 0 setup? Basically, after 2 drives on raid 0, adding anymore drives is the performance gain faster, or fastest on 2 drives on raid 0?

    Thanks in advance.

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  • How do i install an OS using RAID 0? And also, if the data is shared across 2 hard drives, how would i go about deleting something, if i deleted something would it automatically delete on the other hard drive or would i manually have to delete it off the other hard drive?

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  • why link two 500GB HDs in RAID 0? convenience of one drive letter vs two?

  • @matwocents raid 0 is good for combining 2 equal capacity size drives into 1 large drive. it is also good against autority trying to undelete your files in order to prosecute you for illegal materials.

  • @GigglingGirI uh!? yes on the raid 0 combining thing but wtf on the authority, undelete, prosecute, illegal thing?

  • Great vid ! I have 2 questions

    1. can I have both raid 0 and raid 1 in my pc ?

    2. for either raid set up do I have to have the same manufacture HDD ? like a Seagate and a Western Digital.

    The reason being that I want to have a gaming rig but my Fiancé needs something to store her graphic design work, and possibly a simple FTP setup for those files.

    any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

  • @kasatka4520 A compromise between raid 0 and raid 1 is raid 5. But what I suggest doing is having the OS and all of your programs on a raid 0 configuration. And then buy a 3rd high capacity HDD and use that for your storage. That way you can have the speed of raid 0 but with added security without messing with raid 5.

  • @kasatka4520

    A1. No you cant have more than one raid in your system. It is either or.

    A2. They dont have to be the same manufacturor but best to have same size capaicity.

  • @GigglingGirI

    A1: You can have a RAID 1 and RAID 0 set up at the same time... even with RAID 5 running alongside those two as long as you have enough identical hard drives, enough SATA connections for the hard drives, and if your RAID controller can run them at the same time... or you can have another PCI / PCI-E RAID Controller.

    A2 It's sketchy, but it's true though.

  • @kasatka4520

    1: It's possible that you have RAID 0 and RAID 1 on your pc (called RAID10,1+0, et al.), provided that you have a minimum of 4 (yes 4) hard disks and if your system supports it through a RAID controller (either integrated on the motherboard or on PCI/ PCI-E card).

    2: For a computer of daily graphic design use. I do recommend having RAID10. So she can access them fast + they're backed up.

    PS. If ever she is considering on having an archive comp. Set up a comp with RAID 5.

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  • Your the BEST!!! all your videos help me. Thank You

  • @Baker3OrDieHard i love his channel he is the best teacher on youtube.

  • Question for everyone on RAID. If I have 3 500GB hard drives, and I do RAID 0 on two; can I use RAID 1 on the the RAID 0 and the extra 500 GB hard drive, or does it need to be a TB hard drive (instead of the extra 500GB drive), or is it just not possible.

  • If you're using Raid 0 and one of your hard drives dies, do you lose all the data?

  • @lazareus Yes, you do lose all of your data.

  • @lazareus basically yes! so if you are on RAID0 always have external drive backups handy or use mozy.

  • Sigh... i have raid 0 and one my hd failed on startupp.... I have so much data

  • would raid0 make virus scans faster aswell?

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  • Hi there Nice video :) I have a question ... Is it better/faster to run 2x SSD in raid 0 than just running a single SSD with windows and games, I have just bought a 64GB SSD and thats enought space for me but would it boost my performance if i bought 1 more and run the raid 0 setup ?

  • Dose raid work if i use diffrent size hhd and diffrent brand? And can I use raid 0 with an ssd?

  • pls help here! I have 2 different hard drives(different brand but same size) can i use the raid 0 ? cheers !!

  • @markoulas2 yes

  • @markoulas2

    Yes you can!

  • imaging raid 0 SSDs.....O.O

  • @VirtuosoX1 that sounds helpful i got 3 ssd off newegg but idk how to do raid have you done it?

  • @skaterguy288 do a quick youtube "how to set up raid 0" also known as Striped, it is in BIOS where you enable it, then you can enter the Raid BIOS, i havnt done it my self, but ive seen vids on utube explain (or try) i was thinking of doing a SSD raid vid, but darn theyre so expensive, dont have the cash to spend on a vid atm :P

  • @VirtuosoX1 Btw skaterguy good luck, if you get to set it up, post a vid on its performance :D

  • @VirtuosoX1 well i gotta get 2 new hard drives first

  • Raid is when you go fight mega bosses and other enemies with your guild! FOR THE HORDE

  • @xnf90x2 XD I hate WOW.

  • @xnf90x2 Lok'tar ogar!

  • @xnf90x2  lmao, true

  • @xnf90x2 move on from wow. there is a world outside that game eaven other games :O yer I know!!! :P

  • RAID 5

  • @evi0blackeagle Too many HDD's. I'd rather just get 2 BIG hard drives.

  • @de0zz @3DGAMEMAN Raid is of no use when there is only 1 hdd, right?

  • @vgvgvg7412 Right.

  • @3DGAMEMAN Raid is of no use when there is only 1 hdd, right?

  • i want to install my windows 7 64 bit to ssd...help me what ssd to buy...

  • @XVAGOSX1

    I recomend you the OCZ Vertex 2 SSD.

    It got a 285 MB/s writing speed and 275MB/s reading speed.

    The 50 GB version is aproximately 240 Euros.

  • @SutkasFan

    But i think you can find cheaper one.

  • @SutkasFan get two wd caviar blacks 500gb each for $50 each and set it up in raid 0, you will get equal speeds to modern day ssd's, you will save alot of money, and you will have 10 times the capacity :)

  • @Phen0mX

    Does the two WD Caviar black 500 GB hard disks can reach the speed of 250Mb/s writing spead ? Or even 200Mb/s reading speed ?

  • @SutkasFan watch this video /watch?v=GHtJtKSw2ws

    average write speed = 185mb/s

    max write speed = 500mb/s

  • @Phen0mX

    500Mb/s ?

    The limit for the SATA 2, 3Gb/s is 300Mb/s, so how he reached so big high speed ?

    BTW i haven't seen an SATA SSD's with that writing speed, not even in RAID 0,

    2 SSD's couldn't reach that speed!

    Awesome!

  • @SutkasFan im no expert on how hdd's work but seeing as a single drive can max 300mb/s it means that raid0 can max to 600mb/s. from my research the caviar black in raid0 is the best thing available for your money.

  • @Phen0mX

    OK Thanks, i realy appreciate that!

  • @XVAGOSX1 get hdd runnign 7200rpm and set up raid0, ssd is waste of money for entheusiasts

  • can I add on another drive without using raid 0?

  • @misterpink95 dont think sow

  • Doesn't a RAID 1 uses the size of the smallest disk? For example, 500gb and 250gb

  • @kenmha Yes, RAID 1 with these 2 drives would show up as a single 250G mirrored. RAID 0 with these 2 drives would show a 500G array (2x250g striped).

  • i use a sata hdd and a ide hdd should I use raid? I currently use on hdd for vista (gaming) and other hdd windows 7 for work/video/photo.

    What would be the best option for me?

  • @Johnnyboybravo No, you're RAID array would be limited by the slowest drive.

  • View my video response for those of you using Intel based RAID setups

  • So you've been using it for years with no problems? What helps that time frame? I keep hearing about arrays failing and whatnot. What causes the array to fail? I've heard a SATA unplugging itself makes the array fail.

    I got a 500GB external backup so data is safe

    either way. :)

  • i wanna do this but my raid notices my CD drive also in raid .. and it doesnt allow it when i try to install windows .. how do i make that one IDE and my HDD's raid i canot choose wich one to make raid :/

  • @HylianFury

    I was having the same problem. Look for an option that says: "Use SATA Ports 3/4 as. . . "

    Then use IDE

  • i need help:

    am buying 1x ssd 640gb, 2x 640gb hdd, 1tb hhd.

    i want the sdd to be for windows booting, the 2x 640gb hdd in raid 0 for gaming, and the 1tb hdd for back up,is this possible ?

  • 3DGAMEMAN Rocks :D thanks for the video.

  • i installed raid 0 on my mother oard, but the speed is slow (120 MB/s) because the controllers are made by jmicro, Are there any pci-e cards which can do the job of reaching 200MB/s

  • i have 4 hadr drive and i want to use raid 0 but im afraid if one hard drive fails will it affect the other hard drives data??

  • Will I be able to do raid 0 on two 80gb 7200rpm hdd? I currently have just one 500gb and is using win7 ultimate 64x. I'm thinking about buying 2 80gb hdd to do raid0 and the 500gb as storage. Will I have to format my 500gb because I want to put my os on the 2 80gb?

  • sup mah fellow 209er!

  • Very useful video!

    Time to save up to buy 2 HD's

    and run em on raid 0 :)

  • @edgarejc

    Look into the 7200.12 Barracudas, they're running at less then $60 a piece on the egg website ;)

  • 3DGAMEMAN, Another point to consider. I like the video.

  • RAID is obsolete. With new methods of backing up data such as with external HDD's, there's no need for RAID 1 and beyond. I wouldn't trust RAID 0 either because when one drive fails, everything is lost. I'm using AHCI over two 500GB's disks and I have a 1TB external HDD for backup.

  • I kinda agree with this statement regarding RAID 1, however, I don't agree that RAID 0 is obsolete. With such a great performance enhancement, I'll take the (minimal) risk to connect programs that I can just reinstall another time. If anything is really important, I have another drive with a lot of space used for storing all of it.

    4 x 64GB Intel X-25E in Raid 0

    1 x 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black

  • I have 3 drives on my system. One 80GB that I use for Windows, and 2 500GB drives that I use for just storing music, movies, etc. I made a RAID 0 array with the 2 500GB's and there was no change in performance. I guess it didn't matter what config I used for their purpose, but I do install my games onto them and there was no performance change with the games either. So I just decided to use AHCI. I bought the 1TB HDD to backup the RAID. I might try again, I don't know. I hate reinstalling.

  • After talking to Intel they said that RAID wouldn't benefit me at all for what I use my drives for because files larger than the stripe size will be read at exactly the same speed as on a non-RAID config and virtually all my files are large since I don't have an OS installed on the array. The only benefit the said that RAID could only give me is better space utilization. So unless I buy another drive for the OS, there's no point for me to use it simply for my storage drives.

  • what do you exactly mean fails? like it gets damaged? i mean cant you reformat the hard disks?

  • On a RAID0 array, if one drive fails because of a defect or something, you lose everything on all the drives. Formatting won't do anything if the drive ceases to function. It relies completely on all the drives in the array to be without fault.

  • ok.. but does raid 0 increase the chance of fault? i backup my data whenever i need..

  • Yes. The more drives you add, the higher your chances are of adding a faulty drive to the array. If you use a backup then that's fine. I use a backup as well but it's external because I had an experience where my two other internal storage drives lost their data while testing a program.

  • mm so if i put 2 in raid 0 ill be fine? by backup i dont mean that i do another hdd for backup.. i mean that i save data that i had downloaded and save them to pendrive and DVDs..

  • That's basically what I do for my backups. I use a drive image for my Windows drive that I save to my backup drives. Two drives should be alright but it's recommended that they be the same size and model. You can use two different sized drives but on a RAID0 array the largest drive capacity will be reduced to the capacity of the smallest drive. So if you use a 200GB and an 80GB, the 200GB will become an 80GB.

  • yea yea i know that.. :) i plan on using 2 WD caviar black 500GB..

  • @kidowner Well it does, if one drive fails, you loose all your data

  • @Flashlabs already responded by someone else, thx anyway :)

  • The reason I mentioned this again is because some details was left out in the Video. I also forgot to say, Stripe (raid0) twice the speed of the slowest drive, yes, also twice the size of the smallest drive, so don't Stripe a 500gb with a 160gb. You'll ens up with a 320gb hard drive.

  • Raid 0 = 500g+500g=1000g, 2 x the speed of the slowest drive, but, if one drive fails, all data is lost ( half of EACH file was on the drive that failed)

    Raid 1 = 500g+500g=500g, no speed increase, but, when one drive fails, all data is already mirrored to the second drive, data redundancy. You'll use a similar solution on your company server.

    Raid 5 = 500g+500g+500g=1000g

    Cheapest best of both worlds, not very reliable. Rebuilding array could take up to 2 days.

    I'd recommend Raid 10.

    Raid

  • yes, you call it raid 10. Both Raid 0 and 1 at the same time, but your motherboard probably doesn't support it. I believe you'll have to buy something similar to a 3ware raid 10 card to try such a solution. The best to go hardware raid if you're looking at game support.

    Personally , I'd say, run 4 hard drives, 1 x raid striped ( performance ) and 1 x mirrored ( data safety ) Only windows and installed games on the performance drives.

  • w8 wtf. i can have RAID 0 on 1 HDD?

  • raid 0 makes mulitple disks like one disk, so....no but yes. RAID means muliple disks but raid 0 acts like 1 HDD.

  • what is RAID 5?

  • what is raid 10???

  • Can you setup several partitions on a RAID 0 array? If so, how many? Does it work any differently then setting up partitions on a single drive?

  • let me ask this, in raid 0 how do i get the on a USB drive, also do you know if new motherboards come with a raid controller? i'm new to the whole computer building thing but i was just wondering how to do raid 0 since it is the fastest way to setup a configuration for a single hard disk!!

    thanks for your help.

  • @sabbathcrazy a raid 1 arrays of a raid 0 array :-)

  • @sabbathcrazy yes, RAID 10, <-- that is RAID ONE ZERO, not RAID TEN as noobs think :P

  • I have RAID 0 on my computer, it rocks!

  • you can have raid 0.1

  • i have an raid0 config on asus p5b-e motherboard ,with 2 1.5tb baracuda.

    the 2 drives have both some 2.8 tb usable space.

    But when i made the raid i lost 800gb,so i have now 2 tb of usable space .

    My question is what `s hapen why i lost 800gb?,please help!

  • so.. Raid is like crossfire/sli for your hard drives?:D

  • i think RAID 0 is like that

  • Is it possible to do a RAID 1 of a RAID 0 array? That would seem fool proof if you could.

  • that wou