my only beef with this footage is the filming of the audience as if they're to capture some extra nuance to the set itself---the audience is lame and you can see it in their faces and body language, and no wonder Buddy didn't live as long or longer, look at the amount of second-hand smoke that the performers were to endore those days from the audience members---other than that, Buddy Is King, not a one like him ever or sense, RIP.
@ishredu Did Maurice ever get back to you on this? This is the first I've seen this message - YouTube has so many glitches in it's system, we don't get messages alot of times. I have the tape here - we'll put it up.
@ishredu Maurice's computer is on the fritz. He might have to get a new one. But we'll get it up soon (gonna put up Prelude To A Kiss, too). Just lettin' you know we didn't forget about you. Hang in there...
if anyone hasn't heard it, you HAVE to buy The Man From Planet Jazz. it's a live recording of buddy and co at Ronnie Scott's in 1980. i have it on vinyl. quite simply the best live big band record i've ever heard. :-) if anyone has videos of that gig i'll give you my first born child in return for a single viewing (doubt you'd want anything to do with my offspring however; they're likely to be the kind that sit facing the wall, mumbling about coconuts).
i like buddy rich because the guy wasnt satisfied unless there was extreme effort applied. you had to be willing to bleed for buddy to be satisfied. and why not? buddy himself pushed it harder than anyone else.
you arent going to see anything like buddy rich again. its the old generation of performers who worked hard.
the music truly came first with buddy. everything else was secondary.
Hey, I was just reading your two comments, then I was surprised to see that you seem to be a Buddy Rich fan - by all your favorites. I'm just curious.....having a bad day?
i was actually surprised to find anything to criticize, which is why I went into detail. afterall, "news flash", BR (himself) was notoriously harsh with his band even though
he hand picked every one of them.
bad day? ...what does one have to do with the other?
Hehe, just curious to see what you'd say. But after your previous comments, I went to your channel and expected to see a whole bunch of heavy metal clips or maybe something else indicating bad taste, but that wasn't the case. So, it made me take your comment more seriously. By the way, you've got some good clips in your favorites.
i just didn't favor thsi particular performance. again, i was actually surprised to find anything to criticize, which is why I went into detail. afterall, "news flash", BR (himself) was notoriously harsh with his band even though he hand picked every one of them.
bad day? ...what does one have to do with the other? btw: i'm still a huge fan.
mess, band looks uninspired & unhappy, solos/overall arrangement lack clarity, nobody's playing together; sound is often incoherent and rambling, incl. Buddy fills. jokes fall painfully flat; a comedian he is not. Overall: D-
Certainly entitled to your opinion, but "uninspired" and "lacking clarity (????)" are not qualifiers that I would apply to Labarbera's performance here.
(?)I didn't single out Labarbera. Read my (detailed) opinion/critique below. Buddy (himself) introduces the chart,"Backwoods Sideman," and he then jesters, "whatever that means?" We can only speculate on whether or not he thought it was the band's best performance. Like it, or, not: While introducing the title, Buddy indicated that he didn't know what it meant.
@speedoflite1 I agree actually not the best I've heard them by a long shot..but this recording is also pretty darned muddy as well which didn't help matters
I wouldn't D- it though lol D-?
and you brought up the point that the drum intro is the same as time being
HELL YEAH! Rich´s band was anyway the most powerful Big Band ever in the world, but THIS number blows the first 10 rows of the audience straight to the moon!!! Powerful horn sections, marvelous... Great posting, thanx! Ba ba ba ba ba baaaa...
Buddy had one hell of a band!! Did you ever notice on any of his videos no one dare cracked a smile in the band? Make one mistake and Buddy would embarass and fire you right during the performance. Just like one of many incidents at "Cesaers Palace"!
"Buddy" was one of the "best" drummers around and had a solid band that drove, but I often wonder how any band member could put up with his cruel and rude personality!! GREAT JAZZ DRUMMER!!..and a mental case as well.
Mental case? Do you think pro sports trainers or Marines drill instructors are gay dragqueens? No, they are hard as iron, otherwise you don´t reach world leading positions. For this you oftenly must treat your band/team/pupil... like shit. Good man, did everything right...
Maybe, but I never heard any stories about Woody Herman, Duke Ellington, or Stan Kenton berating and humiliating their band members. A big band is a big band, not a frigging combat unit or 'world leading position'. I listen to those tapes of Buddy and just think, "man, that's BS and I don't care who you are".
I love Buddy's bands, for sure. In many cases I like the band itself more than Buddy's drumming. Maynard Ferguson was also good about recruiting and developing new talent. That cracks me up about Gonzalves sleeping on stage!
Is he wearing a Donny Osmond pin? You get a close up around 6:00. I figure D.O. would have been popular around then and that would seem like his humor.
I saw this band live in '73. Pat LaBarara was a good led tenor for this gig. I liked Creaa, too. More of a blues type player where Laarbara was more into Coltrane. I heard somewhere Crea had passed on.
Yeah, Labarbera is SMOKING. I forgot how much I like that guy. Like you said, Crea just sounds irrelevant after Labarbera's choruses. All due respect to Crea, of course.
There's Ernie Wise in the audience!
tradmad58 7 months ago
my only beef with this footage is the filming of the audience as if they're to capture some extra nuance to the set itself---the audience is lame and you can see it in their faces and body language, and no wonder Buddy didn't live as long or longer, look at the amount of second-hand smoke that the performers were to endore those days from the audience members---other than that, Buddy Is King, not a one like him ever or sense, RIP.
MrJthomas70 8 months ago
Calism
No FOOKING talent!!
Easleytee 9 months ago
@Easleytee - LU w/90,000,000,000
No surprise that you have nothing to share on your channel
calism23 9 months ago
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Easleytee 4 months ago
@calism23
Your stick tricks are positively ingenious.
Your playing has all the smooth of a Barium enema.
Easleytee 4 months ago
great!!
tne321 10 months ago
this one is really progressive, rocky
odolany 10 months ago
Damn, that is some serious drumming goin' on!
Kristoffa9999 10 months ago
This song makes my feet dance.
m015094 1 year ago
@StradMan37 I'm curious as to why you think this is funny? And where did you learn such off-color things?
bubses 1 year ago
@StradMan37 - I don't think so, buddy, I'm married. Real good discernment there, deacon.
calism23 1 year ago
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StradMan37 1 year ago
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StradMan37 1 year ago
post "here's that rainy day' please! my tape was eaten years ago
ishredu 1 year ago
@ishredu Did Maurice ever get back to you on this? This is the first I've seen this message - YouTube has so many glitches in it's system, we don't get messages alot of times. I have the tape here - we'll put it up.
bubses 1 year ago
@bubses no sadly but would love to see it again it's a great take one of the best on this tape I think
ishredu 1 year ago
@ishredu,
Hang in there, coming soon.
calism23 1 year ago
@ishredu Maurice's computer is on the fritz. He might have to get a new one. But we'll get it up soon (gonna put up Prelude To A Kiss, too). Just lettin' you know we didn't forget about you. Hang in there...
bubses 1 year ago
what a dumass
fenix1597 1 year ago
Great chart - just skip the 1st minute & a half...
StradMan37 1 year ago
if anyone hasn't heard it, you HAVE to buy The Man From Planet Jazz. it's a live recording of buddy and co at Ronnie Scott's in 1980. i have it on vinyl. quite simply the best live big band record i've ever heard. :-) if anyone has videos of that gig i'll give you my first born child in return for a single viewing (doubt you'd want anything to do with my offspring however; they're likely to be the kind that sit facing the wall, mumbling about coconuts).
noisyneil 2 years ago
No comment!
Strafighissimo!
Raniers17 2 years ago
"Where a clean shirt, be on time and
SWING YOUR ASS OFF"
jesseroman3 2 years ago
@jesseroman3 As he once told Phil Woods.
tonilrogers 2 years ago
great tune!!!!! amazing playing by Buddy and the Band!!
thanx for posting
chrisbueno1 2 years ago
Great inttro and Buddy was amazing as usual!
JLRappa 2 years ago
The incredible power starts at 4:00 - and leads into 5:13 ff. - the most powerful sound-pressure in Big Bands´ history! Ureached, this band...
whity72 2 years ago
Skill.
AirHendrix91 2 years ago 3
wow, this is jamm'n.
i like buddy rich because the guy wasnt satisfied unless there was extreme effort applied. you had to be willing to bleed for buddy to be satisfied. and why not? buddy himself pushed it harder than anyone else.
you arent going to see anything like buddy rich again. its the old generation of performers who worked hard.
the music truly came first with buddy. everything else was secondary.
sqwis 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
sucks...
WALNUTS52 3 years ago
holy mother of god.
tragabicholapues 3 years ago
great intro, and certainly GREAT "main feature"
MICROBIAL 3 years ago 2
Damn impressive.
staticbob2001 3 years ago
Phenomenal tricks but why so serious?
drummerpablo1 3 years ago
If you're talking about Bill, I think it's 'cause I was standing on this foot.
calism23 3 years ago
Just tryin' to keep it together.
bubses 3 years ago
Yeah, that's for sure.
calism23 3 years ago
"Backwards Buddy" is a more appropriate title for this one.
speedoflite1 3 years ago
Hey, I was just reading your two comments, then I was surprised to see that you seem to be a Buddy Rich fan - by all your favorites. I'm just curious.....having a bad day?
calism23 3 years ago
i was actually surprised to find anything to criticize, which is why I went into detail. afterall, "news flash", BR (himself) was notoriously harsh with his band even though
he hand picked every one of them.
bad day? ...what does one have to do with the other?
btw: i'm still a huge fan.
speedoflite1 3 years ago
Hehe, just curious to see what you'd say. But after your previous comments, I went to your channel and expected to see a whole bunch of heavy metal clips or maybe something else indicating bad taste, but that wasn't the case. So, it made me take your comment more seriously. By the way, you've got some good clips in your favorites.
calism23 3 years ago
i just didn't favor thsi particular performance. again, i was actually surprised to find anything to criticize, which is why I went into detail. afterall, "news flash", BR (himself) was notoriously harsh with his band even though he hand picked every one of them.
bad day? ...what does one have to do with the other? btw: i'm still a huge fan.
speedoflite1 3 years ago
Altogether sloppy. drum intro is same as
"Time Being" pt. 1, blaring horns are a hot
mess, band looks uninspired & unhappy, solos/overall arrangement lack clarity, nobody's playing together; sound is often incoherent and rambling, incl. Buddy fills. jokes fall painfully flat; a comedian he is not. Overall: D-
speedoflite1 3 years ago
Certainly entitled to your opinion, but "uninspired" and "lacking clarity (????)" are not qualifiers that I would apply to Labarbera's performance here.
longfade 3 years ago
(?)I didn't single out Labarbera. Read my (detailed) opinion/critique below. Buddy (himself) introduces the chart,"Backwoods Sideman," and he then jesters, "whatever that means?" We can only speculate on whether or not he thought it was the band's best performance. Like it, or, not: While introducing the title, Buddy indicated that he didn't know what it meant.
speedoflite1 3 years ago
Whatever.
longfade 3 years ago
please don't take offense again but you sound like a Valley Girl. BR is the greatest
(5.31-6.48), and his (handpicked) band members achieved universal acclaim.
speedoflite1 3 years ago
@speedoflite1 I agree actually not the best I've heard them by a long shot..but this recording is also pretty darned muddy as well which didn't help matters
I wouldn't D- it though lol D-?
and you brought up the point that the drum intro is the same as time being
um so what?
ishredu 1 year ago
BUDDY WAS THE GREATEST ROCK DRUMMER
madchops82 3 years ago
HELL YEAH! Rich´s band was anyway the most powerful Big Band ever in the world, but THIS number blows the first 10 rows of the audience straight to the moon!!! Powerful horn sections, marvelous... Great posting, thanx! Ba ba ba ba ba baaaa...
whity72 3 years ago
Buddy had one hell of a band!! Did you ever notice on any of his videos no one dare cracked a smile in the band? Make one mistake and Buddy would embarass and fire you right during the performance. Just like one of many incidents at "Cesaers Palace"!
"Buddy" was one of the "best" drummers around and had a solid band that drove, but I often wonder how any band member could put up with his cruel and rude personality!! GREAT JAZZ DRUMMER!!..and a mental case as well.
lorister 3 years ago
Mental case? Do you think pro sports trainers or Marines drill instructors are gay dragqueens? No, they are hard as iron, otherwise you don´t reach world leading positions. For this you oftenly must treat your band/team/pupil... like shit. Good man, did everything right...
whity72 3 years ago
Maybe, but I never heard any stories about Woody Herman, Duke Ellington, or Stan Kenton berating and humiliating their band members. A big band is a big band, not a frigging combat unit or 'world leading position'. I listen to those tapes of Buddy and just think, "man, that's BS and I don't care who you are".
longfade 3 years ago
Duke had virtually NO dicipline in his band. I saw a video of Paul Gonzalves actually asleep on stage. Buddy would never tolerate anything even close.
Many early Big band leaders were just like Buddy. Both Dorsey Brothers, and several others. Do some research.
Kenton, Basie, Duke - they had bands made up of seasoned pros, for the most part. Not college kids. BIG difference.
Buddy gave young, aspiring players a chance to play Jazz on a PRO level and to work with the best.
MarkR1957 3 years ago 2
I love Buddy's bands, for sure. In many cases I like the band itself more than Buddy's drumming. Maynard Ferguson was also good about recruiting and developing new talent. That cracks me up about Gonzalves sleeping on stage!
longfade 3 years ago
@lorister You're a fuckin mental-case !
phase901 1 year ago
Is he wearing a Donny Osmond pin? You get a close up around 6:00. I figure D.O. would have been popular around then and that would seem like his humor.
notsogooddrummer 3 years ago
its hard to believe that john hoffman (on trumpet) is now my teacher at uni. WOW
imtromplayer77 3 years ago
I saw this band live in '73. Pat LaBarara was a good led tenor for this gig. I liked Creaa, too. More of a blues type player where Laarbara was more into Coltrane. I heard somewhere Crea had passed on.
nealbfinn 4 years ago
This is my favorite song off the "Roar of '74" album. The album version is great, but this one is even better with the drum solo.
Why can't we have a big band like that today????
drummerfan277 4 years ago
Yeah, why not?
calism23 4 years ago
in no paticular:talent,interputation,culture,different time,disaplan,professionalism,love of the music.financial.
mikebuddy1 3 years ago
my god the whole band can get down! GET DOWN!
mynamisdan 4 years ago
The piano's a little high in the mix, but the player is gettin it on!
retrop75 4 years ago
Thanks for this. Would love to see more from this broadcast.
katella12 4 years ago
Pat Labarbera just schools everyone he plays with Crea didn't stand a chance.
deknow 4 years ago 2
Yeah, Labarbera is SMOKING. I forgot how much I like that guy. Like you said, Crea just sounds irrelevant after Labarbera's choruses. All due respect to Crea, of course.
longfade 3 years ago
Awesome stuff. Thanks for that.
tonyfreejazz20 4 years ago
looks like buddys playing a 14x26
MrZol 4 years ago
close it's a 14x24
ishredu 4 years ago