Honestly in my opinion, I think Lil Wayne is better than Mike Shinoda. But to be fair, Linkin Park is better than Lil Wayne. But that's just my opinion.
I noticed a lot of poorly typed comments in here. Some of those comments were for Mike and some of the really sloppy comments were for Lil Wayne. Then again... if you put "Lil Wayne" in the title you're going to get some ignorant, half-wit, cuss-all, illiterate, gangsta niggers flockin' to the scene.. so I guess that's expected.
FTR, Mike still holds the title, Fuck You Lil Wayne. Your followers are just as slow as you are.
I wanna be a good rapper like Mike Shinoda....i'll do my best and plz dont hate me :P ....if i get on interview i'll tell that i was a BIG fan of mike and made me like to be a Rapper :)
LIL only raps..Mike creates everything by his self..beats-rhymes-guitars-piano ets he can do everything he wants....Lil gets everything ready and just has to rap..sorry for my bad english BUT MIKE IS A WAY BETTER
shinodas- raps are real he is like lupe and the rappers he features are mostly underated (Styles of beyond, ghost face killer, common, sixx john, black thought of the roots and even lupe is underated)
wayne- talks shit often rappers he features are mostly overrated pieces of crap ie (kayne, drake, nicki minaj and the whole young money) only person who deserves their hype who collabrates with wayne is eminem and thats only cause he wants to make wayne look bad
@Imortals300 eminem is shit i agree wayne make some shit music at times but drake is hands down good and true the rest of young money is crap but u cant go on drake
@Imortals300 eminem is shit i agree wayne make some shit music at times but drake is hands down good and true the rest of young money is crap but u cant go on drake
@Imortals300 OMFG ha you nailed perfectly! I would always think the same thing i cant agree with you more, you my friend have your eyes open rather I should say ears, and have good taste in music. Lupe is a beast, every one mike collaberated during fort minor were talanted artists, ha no pointed in repeated what you said, when you said it best.
@CalebBozeman are you kidding kayne is way over rated and nowhere near as good as people like j cole, wale, blu, tijon who don't get the views and sales of kayne west. Also how is lupe not underrated he is far better than kayne in the only thing that matters lyrical content but only gets around 2 million views compared to kaynes 50 odd per video and its not cause kayne is better its cause kayne dumbs it down and that works for this society.
Hell yeah i feel the same way Mike murdered lil faggot lil wayne can't freestyle or even write his own lyrics is how fucking pathetic that fake ass blood gang member supposely he this he is
I like this. Guess who collaborated with SOB, Celph Titled, Common, Jay-Z, Lupe Fiasco, Aceyalone, Planet Asia, Pharoahe Monch, Ghostface Killah and Black Thought just to name a few? Mike Shinoda. Despite Linkin Park being mainstream, even underground rappers like Mike. Besides, Mike has more meaningful lyrics than Lil Wank.
Listen to Lil Wayne if you want to be depressed and do a bunch of drugs. Listen to MIKE if you wanna stomp circles around those lowlifes and make your world a better place!
dude Mike Shinoda with no doubt.... lil wayne is a great rapper but he is not destined to be the best he can be recognized as a good freestyler, but not the best rapper the shit mike says is realer than lil wayne
Lil Wayne's song wasn't that bad, actually. I really don't like him, but I found the song slightly appealing. High Voltage, though, is absolutely amazing, and Mike Shinoda is so much better.
@DJMoonX3 Nope, Lil' Wayne has better lyrics. You only think Mike is better because he raps about war "was is bad, and people die and stuff" is basically Mike's lyrics. He doesn't say anything new, and he just comes off as preachy. Lil' Wayne doesn't take himself seriously with his lyrics and I like that. I'd much rather have Lil' Wayne's fun lyrics than Mike's preachy lyrics about a subject he clearly doesn't know a whole lot about.
@MoonMoney1 Lil wayne mainly raps about himself being "so gangster", money, girls, drugs, and those topics. Mike shinoda's lyrics are much more poetic and they deal with real life issues. When he makes songs about himself (every rapper does this), again, the lyrics are poetic and more strickening. Lil wayne also has one of the worst flows out of any rapper...
@DJMoonX3 No, Wayne has a better flow than generic Mike. Also, MIke's lyrics, like I said, are just about political issues (like war) and says a bunch of crap that has already been said before.
"Because Wayne win and they lose. I call them April babies, cause they fools"
I'd rather hear Wayne say stuff like that than Mike rapping about crap that has been said a million times before. Sorry Mike, Green Day ran "war sucks" into the ground a long time ago.
@MoonMoney1 Oh really? Lil wayne's flow is so out of beat and heavy. Its so vertical. Actually, none of fort minor's songs have issues about war. We're talking about fort minor only (because 6 people contribute in an LP song). Mike does not rap about stuff that has been said a million times before; that's lil wayne. These days we always hear rappers talking about money, sex, or drugs etc. Lil wayne typically sings about that or he brags about himself.
@DJMoonX3 Umm no, we're talking about anything Mike has rapped in, including Linkin Park. You're clearly one of those little kids that thinks rapping about an important issue automatically makes the song good, regardless of how terribly written, how many times it's been said before, and how horrible the production behind it is. Sorry, that's not how it works. Just because Lil' Wayne would rather write fun lyrics that aren't meant to be taken seriously, it doesn't mean they're bad.
@MoonMoney1 Nope. We're talking about fort minor only cause LP songs are not entirely by Mike. No, i dont think that. Mike shinoda's lyrics are more poetic and talk about reality (no, not just issues, but other stuff as well). Fort minor's beats are also much better. They're not one demensonal like lil wayne, and feature real instruments instead of really generic synthesizers. Also, Mike shinoda produced every song in the rising tied. Something that lil wayne can't do.
@DJMoonX3 Nope, we're talking about Mike's rapping, so we can include LP. Also, Mike's lyrics aren't more poetic, especially since he steals lines from other people. Also, plenty of Wayne's songs use instruments other than synthesizers. You saying that proves you've never listened to the album. Also, Wayne's beats are far better (there is a reason why the production on C3 got so much acclaim) .
So here is how it goes: Mike raps about generic issues, while Wayne raps for fun, which I like more.
@MoonMoney1 We can't include LP. Mike can only rap mostly about depressing topics (at least the first 3 studio albums) because the band was like that at that time. Mike had no freedom to rap about anything else. That's why we're comparing fort minor to Lil wayne. Both are solo works. And plenty? LOL no. Lil wayne's beats are so much more generic. Mike raps about everyday life and stuff not many mainstream rappers talk about, and lil wayne raps stupidly and about money, drugs, and sex.
@DJMoonX3 Obviously you haven't listened to C3. Also, LOL @ your reason for not including LP. That's their fault, and we will include it because Mike does rap on it. Like I said, MIke raps about generic topics, "war is bad, people die" then steals quotes from other people "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die" Also, Wayne's beats are far better, hence the higher review scores. Also, Mike does not rap about new things. He raps about government and war. RATM was centered around that.
@MoonMoney1 No, we will not include LP because it involves 5 other band members. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOLO PROJECTS ONLY. Steals quotes? "On the back, he hand-wrote a quote inside, When the rich wage war it's the poor who die" is not stealing somebody's quote. It is saying that "he" had a quote in his book. Well since you are all about review scores, i guess recovery is in the same level as linkin park's albums. He does not rap about those topics, except kenji (About his grandfather).
@DJMoonX3 Nope, we are including LP because it's safe to say that Mike's rapping is written by Mike. Do you think Brad writes Mike's rapping or something? LOL! Nope, he stole the lyrics from a quote, and it's funny, because you credit Mike for it in your channel info.
And yes, he does rap about those topics. He does it plenty on Minutes To Midnight.
@MoonMoney1 And no, he rapped this: "On the back, he hand-wrote a quote inside
When the rich wage war it's the poor who die" that is not called stealing a quote. it is saying that "he" wrote a quote inside that said THAT. Do you understand? And like i said in my previous comment, he only raps twice in minutes to midnight. Only one of them is hands held high. Bleed it out is not political. So basically you are judging mike shinoda by two songs, and lil wayne by about 13 songs.
@DJMoonX3 He still stole the quote, it doesn't matter if he added crap to the beginning. And like I said, you thought Mike came up with that, which is why you gave credit to him in your channel info, which is sad.
And you're mad because I'm judging Mike by two songs? LOL, you're judging Lil' Wayne by one song.
@MoonMoney1 No, he just rapped that the one of the characters in the rap had a quote inside his book. Its that simple. Im not judging lil wayne by one song. Im judging him by other songs as well, even the ones that are out of the "tha carter III" album. Also, your other comment. So you've never listened to the album? You can't really argue cause you have no knowlege about lil wayne.
@MoonMoney1 Just because somebody says that a person had that quote in a book doesnt mean he stole the quote, idiot. I did think that, but, do you expect me to know everything in the world? Im also judging him by Drop the world, got money, prom queen, and a few more. And i didnt know what "C3" was cause i didn tknow what it stood for. now i do. i did listen to the C3. Want me to give you a review of it?
@MoonMoney1 Because mike shinoda clearly says, "On the back, he hand-wrote a quote inside, When the rich wage war it's the poor who die". "He" wrote a quote inside a book, okay? A quote that is by somebody else who is actually REAL? And I didn't buy it. I downloaded it off of bittorent. You know, I'm not the only one who download songs. I actually buy albums of artists I respect, not the crappy artists.
@MoonMoney1 also i never stated you have no knowlege about lil wayne. lmfao. Do you speak english? Seriously? Im speaking in my second language and I seem to understand you more than you understand me.
@MoonMoney1 Sorry, I meant fort minor, not lil wayne. You do realise people mix up words? Do you expect me to have perfect spelling on the web? Gosh. This is not a school discussion. Anyways, we all know that Mike Shinoda is a better rapper JUST BY HEARING BOTH OF THEM.
@DJMoonX3 Umm, I do realize people mix up words, but you call me stupid because of your mistake. Hypocrite much?
Also, no, Wayne is a much better rapper than Mike. Wayne has clever lyrics, while Mike is generic as hell, Wayne has better production,and Wayne has better flow.
@MoonMoney1 Wayne has clever lyrics that everyday mainstream rappers talk about. Money. Bragging. Sex. Cars. Now I know that you have no knowlege about Rap and Hip Hop. I WIN!
@DJMoonX3 LOL! Can you provide proof that EVERY Lil' Wayne song does that? Oh right, you can't, you just have to lie to try and make a point, proving I've won.
That's another win for me. After all, you keep running away because you have no points. =)
@MoonMoney1 I never said all. But according to you, Mike Shinoda only raps about political stuff. And that is one song, which is not even his solo work. So I own you. Also, since you think that lil wyane has better lyrics than Mike Shinoda, that automatically makes you clueless about music. So I win.
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I said that's all he does is rap about political stuff on Minutes To Midnight. The fact that you have to lie proves that you have no real points, and thus I win.
Plus, I've proven that Wayne has better/more clever lyrics than Shinoda, who just raps about crap that everyone has done a million times before. Also, C3 has a way higher Metacritic score than any LP album, so I win.
@MoonMoney1 No. Mike only raps in two songs in minutes to midnight. Only one of them is political. So therefore he doesn't only rap about political stuff in Minutes to Midnight. Another win for me. Actually, lil wayne is the one who constantly raps about money, sex, partying, or bragging (oh now what, 3 songs out of his 60-something songs doesn't have those stuff involved?). Mike has some topics that are actually touching and about real life.
@MoonMoney1 Bleed it out is about taking extreme measures just to get what you want/your goal. That's not political. Im not being exact, probrably it's not 3 songs, but its around there. Why don't you give me proof of his songs that don't fit in those topics? The fact of the matter is, you can't. Mike rapped about teen angst cause the band was teen-angst (not anymore. look at the preview of the catalyst). Seriously, listen to the rising tied before you try to win.
@DJMoonX3 Bleed It Out clearly as war metaphors, so it can be interpreted as a political song.
Why would I listen to the Rising Tied when 1. C3 has better reviews, 2. I don't like the one song I've heard from the album?
Also, it's up to you to prove that only 3 of his songs don't address those topics you mentioned. You're just too lazy, so you try to pin the burden of proof on me, but when it's you that makes the claim, it is up to YOU to prove it.
@MoonMoney1 Tell me some war metaphors in the song then, please. Like i said before, if you really think critics are everything, Justin bieber's last album was better than Recovery. Which is not true. You can't judge an album by one song. Thats what you told me. Same goes with you. So I guess you can't name three of his songs that doesn't have those topics. I win! P.S. Not exactly three, but a couple, if you know what I mean. lmfao!
"Shotgun I pull lock and load, cock it back and watch it go"
LOL, funny, because if Wayne had lyrics like that, you'd say it would be a song about violence.
Also, I already explained why JB and Eminem cannot be compared. You are clearly just ignoring my point because you can't counter it, so you pretend you never saw it. That proves I've won, as usual. Or does Tourette's affect your memory.
I know more than one Shinoda song. Another lie. I win!
@MoonMoney1 Still, the song is not about politics. Just because there are TWO political metaphors (the second one isn't even that political) doesnt mean the song itself is political. Another win for me. JB and Eminem cannot be compared? I know the can't be. Eminem is legendary. Why not compare him to something else? What about Rihanna? Yup. Her latest album is far better according to the critics (and they have about the same amount of reviews). Last time you said that she sucked.
@DJMoonX3 Nope, just because you don't interpret it as a political song, it doesn't mean nobody interprets it as one. Ever heard the term, "open for interpretation"?
I don't recall saying Rihanna sucked. Can you provide proof? Oh right, you're lying again, but last I checked, Rihanna isn't a rapper. Plus, he song with Eminem on Recovery is less than stellar. Plus, Eminem is known as one of the greatest rappers ever, so his albums are going to be judged on a much tougher scale. Sad, but true.
@MoonMoney1 "Plus, Eminem is known as one of the greatest rappers ever, so his albums are going to be judged on a much tougher scale. Sad, but true." I can say that with Michael Jackson's last album, invincible. Right?
@MoonMoney1 You know more than one shinoda song? I thought it was just where'd you go. So you're the one who lied. So that's another win for me! Yay! P.S. Linkin Park song =/= mike shinoda song. An LP song is a song that mike rapped/sung in. A Mike Shinoda song is his solo work. But wait! you have minimal knowlege of fort minor! So thats another win for me. You should forfeit soon.
@DJMoonX3 Yes, a Linkin Park song does = a Shinoda song, because Shinoda raps on LP songs. Obviously you're just raging, which is why you are asking me to forfeit, because you know that you've lost and are trying to end it as quickly as possible. You just ignore all my points once I've owned you, and then you try to move on to something new. LOL! You're hilarious.
@MoonMoney1 Nope. I win because its a fact that Mike shinoda has better flow, lyrics, beats (lil wayne did not produce his songs in any of his albums). :) Im not the same person anymore, kinzie. Do you expect me to think "IMA PICK UP THE WORLD AND IM GONNA DROP IT ON YOUR F***ING HEAD" is better than Mike Shinoda? LOL
@DJMoonX3 Nope, Wayne has better lyrics, flow, and beats (hence the higher review scores). Obviously you're just mad because I proved Wayne is better, and you had to resort to lies to try and make a point, which proves I've won.
Tell me this (watch you resort to a red herring): Why did C3 get better reviews than any LP album?
@MoonMoney1 Prove it then. And because critics aren't always accurate. Rising tied actually got positive reviews from critics. It's not in Metacritic however, therefore you can't really say that Tha Carter III had better reviews. And Rebirth had AWFUL critic reviews (metacritic score of 37). I actually listened to the album myself. Im proud to say it is the worst album of 2010.
@DJMoonX3 Prove C3 has a higher Metacritic score than any LP album? Okay, go to Metacritic and see that no LP album as a higher score than C3. Nice try at the straw man attempt though.
The reviews that The Rising Tied does have wouldn't make it higher than 84, though.
Now, enough of you trying to ignore the question and just answer it: Why does C3 have higher review scores than any LP album.
@MoonMoney1 I know you've been giving a lot of crap to people over LP. They're not gonna stop. its devotion. You and all the fans ur messing with should agree to disagree. Everyone has their tastes. I get it that you rant about what bands "suck" I do too. We all have likes and dislikes. You know?
@DJMaggotTheory Then maybe Ben Moon should stop trying to convince me to like Mike Shinoda more than Lil' Wayne. I've already proven that Wayne is better.
@MoonMoney1@DJMoonX3 They're BOTH talented in my opinion. I heard Lil Wayne doesnt write and its all freestyle. Thats hella cool. And well... Mike has better flow. But theyre TWO COMPLETLEY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. From two different genres. Neither is better. Both are an acquired taste.
@DJMaggotTheory Nope, he has great flow. Clearly you have that closed-minded view on rapping, and think that rapping has to follow a strict set of rules that can't be broken. He might go off tempo, his rhythm might not be the tightest, but that's his style, and he's good at what he does.
Also, you just said Rebirth is his best album. NO. It's his worst, by far. C3 is his best album.
@MoonMoney1 Close minded? Fuck you. Going off tempo and losing rhythm isnt a style. Rebirth showed that he had talent enough to expand. Bottom line: You're a troll.
@DJMaggotTheory Yes, it is a style. Kind of like how John Frusciante during his Dani California guitar solo, he has two guitar parts going on, one going on time, and one slightly off time. According to you, that's a horrible idea and it's wrong because one is off time.
Rebirth showed that he's not scared to try something different, and good for him, but it failed miserably. You are implying that different = automatically good, which isn't true.
@DJMoonX3 Can you provide proof that C3 sucks? Oh, is that another red herring attempt? That's a fail. I've owned you once again, and that's another win for me. LOL! You had to ask someone for help and you're still losing. =)
@MoonMoney1 Like i said, lil wayne sucks when it comes to lyrics, his beats are incredibly generic (particularly lolipop), and his flow is simply awful. And i've seen lil wayne in Young Money. He only sings about money, drugs, and sex and that bulls*** in there. Lil wayne is not a rapper. He's a crapper.
@DJMoonX3 Ah, another logical fallacy. You see, you're asking me to provide proof to backup my statements, yet you try to ignore providing proof to back up your statements. Nice try, though.
@DJMoonX3 Again, another red herring attempt. I've provided proof to back up everything I've said in the past, and now it's your turn. Funny, he keeps trying to delay himself giving proof ...
@MoonMoney1 Actually what you've done is say that lil wayne's flow, beats, lyrics, and production are better, and not give any proofs or reasons. Im not giving up on this, kinzie. The only proof you have is that his album Tha Carter III had a metacritic score of 84. However, Rebirth has a score of 37. None of Linkin Park's albums went that low. Fort minor? Well The Rising Tied isn't even on Metacritic.
@DJMoonX3 If you take The Rising Tide's scores on Wikipedia and average them out, it's lower than 84. And I'm also not giving up on this, as I know that Lil' Wayne is better than Mike, and nothing you say will change my mind because it's clear that I know more about music than you.
Also, I've given more proof of that. You asked for proof of Lil' Wayne's better lyrics, you ignored it. I gave proof that both of MTM's songs could be taken as political, and you ignored it.
@MoonMoney1 Actually you never said how Lil wayne's lyrics are better. Another win for me! Now tell me how lil wayne is better flow, beat, lyric, and production-wise.
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I'm not lying at all. You're just mad because I am able to provide proof and you can't.
Once again, you're resorting to a red herring argument. That proves I've won. Typical you say "I won" even though you've clearly lost. You're so butthurt!
@MoonMoney1 Actually you havent given me proof except the fact that one of lil wayne's album got a good review (on the other hand, rebirth has a metacritic score of 37). Now you are constantly lying. Stop delaying my question and answer, please. Prove it that I lost. I won. Cause you refuse to give me some reasons why lil wayne is better than Mike Shinoda.
@DJMoonX3 Umm, actually I have given proof of plenty of things. Like I said, you try to ignore them because you have no counter points, and just try to move on to the next point, like you're trying to do now.
I'm also not lying, that's what you're doing. You continuously lying proves I've won.
Also, once again, you're resorting to a red herring argument. That also proves I've won.
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I'm not saying BS at all. The proof is right in these video comments, so go look yourself. Also, you're lying, not me. You trying to lie to try and make a point proves that I've won.
Also, once again, you're resorting to a red herring argument. Fail.
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I've provided more proof than that. See, what you're trying to do is make the other person basically quit the argument because you keep trying to make them put more effort into the argument than you are, hence you asking for proof, while not being able to provide proof yourself when asked for it. Instead, you resort to red herring attempts to divert the argument. Sorry, not going to let that happen.
@MoonMoney1 Sorry, not going to let you make up reandom stories and let you win. Now please answer my question. See? You've delayed for like, two hours. Forfeit?
Honestly in my opinion, I think Lil Wayne is better than Mike Shinoda. But to be fair, Linkin Park is better than Lil Wayne. But that's just my opinion.
TehJPlayhouse 3 weeks ago
I agree that Mike is much better than Lil Wayne... but to be fair Prom Queen is some of his worst.
Domoa400 3 weeks ago
Mike Shinoda or Eminem?For me its Mike.
MikyWrita 1 month ago
I noticed a lot of poorly typed comments in here. Some of those comments were for Mike and some of the really sloppy comments were for Lil Wayne. Then again... if you put "Lil Wayne" in the title you're going to get some ignorant, half-wit, cuss-all, illiterate, gangsta niggers flockin' to the scene.. so I guess that's expected.
FTR, Mike still holds the title, Fuck You Lil Wayne. Your followers are just as slow as you are.
Crimson126 1 month ago
mikee
pmrclopez 1 month ago
its sickening how underated / unknown mike is when it comes to rapping
LinkinParkWorshiper 1 month ago
how can be lil wayne better than shit
Lovelyflipz 2 months ago
I wanna be a good rapper like Mike Shinoda....i'll do my best and plz dont hate me :P ....if i get on interview i'll tell that i was a BIG fan of mike and made me like to be a Rapper :)
ChrisLovesLinkinPark 2 months ago 3
wtf?Mike of,lil wayne is a piece of shit,bliah
BillKaulitz4ever100 2 months ago
wayne wins get off mike dick
MrLaughs4you 3 months ago
MIKE WINS!!!! LIL WAYNE IS GAY!
loquendero2002 4 months ago
mike is king
LinkinPark2rock 4 months ago 3
mike shinoda will win
axel456ify 4 months ago 3
This is like comparing an Atomic Bomb with an small grenade...
KingDevil444 5 months ago
That wasn't really a contest because Lil Wayne didn't rap in "Prom Queen". But like it matters, Mike still won anyway.
TheLinkinParkHombre 5 months ago
Mike Shinoda 10000x
Carlinha4273 5 months ago 6
only good thing about lil waynes raps are his beats... some of them.
ganning159 5 months ago
*Pause video at begining* MIKE WON!!!!
ganning159 5 months ago
Shinoda won before before it even started
Atheistdrummer777 5 months ago 2
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKE SHINODA
valanart 6 months ago 2
Mike won.
4NTH0NYTH3N1NJ4 6 months ago 2
Mike can sing, rap, play stuff about REAL LIFE, and LIL wayne is always using autotune and singing about sex.
gagaladyful 6 months ago
Forfeit the game before somebody else
Takes you out of the frame and puts your name to shame
Cover up your face you can't run the race
The pace is too fast you just won't last.
Jormungandr69 7 months ago
lol 1:18
isaiahmk989 7 months ago
shinoda is rapping about life. REAL LIFE.
wayne is rapping about shit,sex,and sluts..
SHINODA IS A TRUE MC,AND ALSO A THOUSAND OF MORE THINGS. WAYNE IS...WHAT? JUST A STUPID RAPPER,WITH NO REAL POINT. +MIKE HAS A NICE VOICE.
MIKE SHINODA FOR A HOLE LIFE TILL DEATH PARTS ME FROM HIS MUSIC. <3<3
ElenaLinkinPark 7 months ago
lil wayne is stupid in this song
thefirstmanwar 7 months ago
mike shinoda all the way
thefirstmanwar 7 months ago
Mike, definatley, lil wayne sucks ass
lpf173 8 months ago
@mikevallelyftw high voltage, a pretty badass song if i say so myself.
lpf173 8 months ago
What song was the last one?
mikevallelyftw 8 months ago
High Voltage is the shit.
momdieddad 9 months ago
kanye aint even in youg money he rolls with jayz and all of defjam
desanto3 9 months ago
haha does wayne even stand a chance fuck NO! Mike is the best
thelpfen 9 months ago 2
LOL all Lil Wayne is good for is advancing technology.....you know, like, how to make human voices sound robotic!!!
thesatellite23 9 months ago
U Shuld Have Put 6 foot 7 foot Fo Wayne
LilDeuce97 10 months ago
no contest, M Shinoda been spittin fire since Hybrid Theory, his Rising Tied is damn dope
Wayne? Fuck him
hungtienboi 10 months ago 2
Whane's a totaaaal CRAAAAP
MrsEvilTea 1 year ago 2
yeah... lil wayne is so bad. Mike Shinoda and LP 4ever!!!
MachoCiacho 1 year ago 2
LIL only raps..Mike creates everything by his self..beats-rhymes-guitars-piano ets he can do everything he wants....Lil gets everything ready and just has to rap..sorry for my bad english BUT MIKE IS A WAY BETTER
blast360f 1 year ago 4
Mike!!!!!
Mava97G 1 year ago
you WOULD put Prom Queen as wayne's song
arodz1000 1 year ago
shinodas- raps are real he is like lupe and the rappers he features are mostly underated (Styles of beyond, ghost face killer, common, sixx john, black thought of the roots and even lupe is underated)
wayne- talks shit often rappers he features are mostly overrated pieces of crap ie (kayne, drake, nicki minaj and the whole young money) only person who deserves their hype who collabrates with wayne is eminem and thats only cause he wants to make wayne look bad
Imortals300 1 year ago 16
@Imortals300 eminem is shit i agree wayne make some shit music at times but drake is hands down good and true the rest of young money is crap but u cant go on drake
insignia50 1 year ago
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@Imortals300 eminem is shit i agree wayne make some shit music at times but drake is hands down good and true the rest of young money is crap but u cant go on drake
insignia50 1 year ago
@Imortals300 OMFG ha you nailed perfectly! I would always think the same thing i cant agree with you more, you my friend have your eyes open rather I should say ears, and have good taste in music. Lupe is a beast, every one mike collaberated during fort minor were talanted artists, ha no pointed in repeated what you said, when you said it best.
1LIFEtoWIN 9 months ago
@Imortals300 calling Kanye overrated? you're obviously not a true hip-hop fan. Calling Lupe underrated? are you kidding me?
CalebBozeman 8 months ago
@CalebBozeman are you kidding kayne is way over rated and nowhere near as good as people like j cole, wale, blu, tijon who don't get the views and sales of kayne west. Also how is lupe not underrated he is far better than kayne in the only thing that matters lyrical content but only gets around 2 million views compared to kaynes 50 odd per video and its not cause kayne is better its cause kayne dumbs it down and that works for this society.
Imortals300 8 months ago
Mike is like 9000000000 x better
VmageNL 1 year ago 4
listen to Cover and Duck by Fort Minor. that would make lil wayne shit his pants and kill himself
mikeSHINlp69 1 year ago 2
Hell yeah i feel the same way Mike murdered lil faggot lil wayne can't freestyle or even write his own lyrics is how fucking pathetic that fake ass blood gang member supposely he this he is
teqnikue 1 year ago
Mike
l4g09 1 year ago 2
Mike Shinoda
rjhonic98 1 year ago 47
Mr. Shinoda is 10x better than Wayne.
You can just tell by the lyrics
Wayne:"Bitch please, bitch please you ain't ever seen a nigga like me."
Mike: "When this began, I had nothing to say, and I'd get lost in the nothingness inside of me."
Mike's lyrics are SO much more meaningful it's not even funny.
Plus, Mike would kill Wayne a freestyle battle.
Listen to Esaul by Linkin Park. Mike raps like a fucking beast in it.
yankeeboy1927 1 year ago 3
Mike Shanoda would kill Wayne in a freestyle battle in 5 seconds
Wetback74 1 year ago
lil wayne can't do rock...But mike can !! :D mike wins...
TheUnforgetableSound 1 year ago 2
Mike wins
thelpfen 1 year ago
watch the video, play till.1.10 then pause it. That answer your question :)
SymbioticElementX 1 year ago
I like this. Guess who collaborated with SOB, Celph Titled, Common, Jay-Z, Lupe Fiasco, Aceyalone, Planet Asia, Pharoahe Monch, Ghostface Killah and Black Thought just to name a few? Mike Shinoda. Despite Linkin Park being mainstream, even underground rappers like Mike. Besides, Mike has more meaningful lyrics than Lil Wank.
DatArabGuy69 1 year ago
@DatArabGuy69 here's a few more: Paul McCartney, Green Lantern, John Legend
mikeSHINlp69 1 year ago
@mikeSHINlp69 well I listed the rappers he collaborated with. He also did a couple songs with Black Thought of the Roots.
DatArabGuy69 1 year ago
Listen to Lil Wayne if you want to be depressed and do a bunch of drugs. Listen to MIKE if you wanna stomp circles around those lowlifes and make your world a better place!
vizzuzkillaklown 1 year ago
Mike Shinoda, because lil Wayne sucks crap compared to the awesomess of Mike!
cycmpdf 1 year ago
Shi-no-da
shamanx25 1 year ago
lets see? Mike will rhyme on and on while Lil Wayne is IM ______ Like ______ and 2 by 2 rhymes i will go with mike,
lpncubs3 1 year ago
Listen to Mike Shinoda's Verse in Cover And Duck, he wins by default.
DPrime215 1 year ago
I didnt even think this was a competition?
duddmeister 1 year ago
dude Mike Shinoda with no doubt.... lil wayne is a great rapper but he is not destined to be the best he can be recognized as a good freestyler, but not the best rapper the shit mike says is realer than lil wayne
kwf99 1 year ago
lil wayne is a rapper ? lol thats so funny
C0lonel5 1 year ago
@JohnFruscianteSucks But I still like Metallica. I'm just more open minded about music than you are. =)
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@JohnFruscianteSucks EXACTLY. Soon she will get Bieber Fever. :)
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
... And he ran away! I win!
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
Lil Wayne's song wasn't that bad, actually. I really don't like him, but I found the song slightly appealing. High Voltage, though, is absolutely amazing, and Mike Shinoda is so much better.
BurningFireFlower360 1 year ago
@BurningFireFlower360 i found the vocals to be "Eardrum-Shattering" in the lil wayne song XD
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 I wasn't a fan of the vocals, but I did find the instrumental amusing.
BurningFireFlower360 1 year ago
@BurningFireFlower360 I found the instrumentals to be "heart-stopping".
I love making random corny words out of nowhere =) XD
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Hahaha. Either way, in my opinion, Mike Shinoda kicks Lil Wayne's ass.
BurningFireFlower360 1 year ago
Lil' Wayne is a million times better and that's a fact. I've already destroyed DJMoonX3 in a debate about the two.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Lil wayne sounds AWFUL. I cant believe you think he has a better flow. Mike shinoda definately has better lyrics and can rhyme better.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, Lil' Wayne has better lyrics. You only think Mike is better because he raps about war "was is bad, and people die and stuff" is basically Mike's lyrics. He doesn't say anything new, and he just comes off as preachy. Lil' Wayne doesn't take himself seriously with his lyrics and I like that. I'd much rather have Lil' Wayne's fun lyrics than Mike's preachy lyrics about a subject he clearly doesn't know a whole lot about.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Lil wayne mainly raps about himself being "so gangster", money, girls, drugs, and those topics. Mike shinoda's lyrics are much more poetic and they deal with real life issues. When he makes songs about himself (every rapper does this), again, the lyrics are poetic and more strickening. Lil wayne also has one of the worst flows out of any rapper...
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 No, Wayne has a better flow than generic Mike. Also, MIke's lyrics, like I said, are just about political issues (like war) and says a bunch of crap that has already been said before.
"Because Wayne win and they lose. I call them April babies, cause they fools"
I'd rather hear Wayne say stuff like that than Mike rapping about crap that has been said a million times before. Sorry Mike, Green Day ran "war sucks" into the ground a long time ago.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Oh really? Lil wayne's flow is so out of beat and heavy. Its so vertical. Actually, none of fort minor's songs have issues about war. We're talking about fort minor only (because 6 people contribute in an LP song). Mike does not rap about stuff that has been said a million times before; that's lil wayne. These days we always hear rappers talking about money, sex, or drugs etc. Lil wayne typically sings about that or he brags about himself.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Umm no, we're talking about anything Mike has rapped in, including Linkin Park. You're clearly one of those little kids that thinks rapping about an important issue automatically makes the song good, regardless of how terribly written, how many times it's been said before, and how horrible the production behind it is. Sorry, that's not how it works. Just because Lil' Wayne would rather write fun lyrics that aren't meant to be taken seriously, it doesn't mean they're bad.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Nope. We're talking about fort minor only cause LP songs are not entirely by Mike. No, i dont think that. Mike shinoda's lyrics are more poetic and talk about reality (no, not just issues, but other stuff as well). Fort minor's beats are also much better. They're not one demensonal like lil wayne, and feature real instruments instead of really generic synthesizers. Also, Mike shinoda produced every song in the rising tied. Something that lil wayne can't do.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, we're talking about Mike's rapping, so we can include LP. Also, Mike's lyrics aren't more poetic, especially since he steals lines from other people. Also, plenty of Wayne's songs use instruments other than synthesizers. You saying that proves you've never listened to the album. Also, Wayne's beats are far better (there is a reason why the production on C3 got so much acclaim) .
So here is how it goes: Mike raps about generic issues, while Wayne raps for fun, which I like more.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 We can't include LP. Mike can only rap mostly about depressing topics (at least the first 3 studio albums) because the band was like that at that time. Mike had no freedom to rap about anything else. That's why we're comparing fort minor to Lil wayne. Both are solo works. And plenty? LOL no. Lil wayne's beats are so much more generic. Mike raps about everyday life and stuff not many mainstream rappers talk about, and lil wayne raps stupidly and about money, drugs, and sex.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Obviously you haven't listened to C3. Also, LOL @ your reason for not including LP. That's their fault, and we will include it because Mike does rap on it. Like I said, MIke raps about generic topics, "war is bad, people die" then steals quotes from other people "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die" Also, Wayne's beats are far better, hence the higher review scores. Also, Mike does not rap about new things. He raps about government and war. RATM was centered around that.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 No, we will not include LP because it involves 5 other band members. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOLO PROJECTS ONLY. Steals quotes? "On the back, he hand-wrote a quote inside, When the rich wage war it's the poor who die" is not stealing somebody's quote. It is saying that "he" had a quote in his book. Well since you are all about review scores, i guess recovery is in the same level as linkin park's albums. He does not rap about those topics, except kenji (About his grandfather).
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, we are including LP because it's safe to say that Mike's rapping is written by Mike. Do you think Brad writes Mike's rapping or something? LOL! Nope, he stole the lyrics from a quote, and it's funny, because you credit Mike for it in your channel info.
And yes, he does rap about those topics. He does it plenty on Minutes To Midnight.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 And no, he rapped this: "On the back, he hand-wrote a quote inside
When the rich wage war it's the poor who die" that is not called stealing a quote. it is saying that "he" wrote a quote inside that said THAT. Do you understand? And like i said in my previous comment, he only raps twice in minutes to midnight. Only one of them is hands held high. Bleed it out is not political. So basically you are judging mike shinoda by two songs, and lil wayne by about 13 songs.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 He still stole the quote, it doesn't matter if he added crap to the beginning. And like I said, you thought Mike came up with that, which is why you gave credit to him in your channel info, which is sad.
And you're mad because I'm judging Mike by two songs? LOL, you're judging Lil' Wayne by one song.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 No, he just rapped that the one of the characters in the rap had a quote inside his book. Its that simple. Im not judging lil wayne by one song. Im judging him by other songs as well, even the ones that are out of the "tha carter III" album. Also, your other comment. So you've never listened to the album? You can't really argue cause you have no knowlege about lil wayne.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, he stole the quote. He used the quote, so he stole it. You are saying that he thought of it entirely by himself, which he didn't.
Yes, you are judging Waybe by one song (Lollipop). Clearly you've never listened to C3, because your arguments are very weak and are mostly lies.
I have no knowledge about Wayne? I have more knowledge than you do, you've clearly never even listened to any of his albums, let alone his best one.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Just because somebody says that a person had that quote in a book doesnt mean he stole the quote, idiot. I did think that, but, do you expect me to know everything in the world? Im also judging him by Drop the world, got money, prom queen, and a few more. And i didnt know what "C3" was cause i didn tknow what it stood for. now i do. i did listen to the C3. Want me to give you a review of it?
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 You're very stupid. He stole the quote. If he didn't then why did that quote exist long before he wrote that song?
Drop The World and Prom Queen are from the worst album he has ever released and they aren't even close to the quality of ANY song on C3.
Yes, prove you listened to it. A picture of you holding the CD will work.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Because mike shinoda clearly says, "On the back, he hand-wrote a quote inside, When the rich wage war it's the poor who die". "He" wrote a quote inside a book, okay? A quote that is by somebody else who is actually REAL? And I didn't buy it. I downloaded it off of bittorent. You know, I'm not the only one who download songs. I actually buy albums of artists I respect, not the crappy artists.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 He still stole it, because it's in the song. And like I said, you credited him with it in your channel info.
Also, if you only buy albums from good artists, you should have bought C3, and not any LP or Fort Minor album. 84>56
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 also i never stated you have no knowlege about lil wayne. lmfao. Do you speak english? Seriously? Im speaking in my second language and I seem to understand you more than you understand me.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 No, clearly you have no knowledge of the English.
"You can't really argue cause you have no knowlege about lil wayne."
You said that exact thing, spelling mistakes included. You're not very intelligent, are you?
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Sorry, I meant fort minor, not lil wayne. You do realise people mix up words? Do you expect me to have perfect spelling on the web? Gosh. This is not a school discussion. Anyways, we all know that Mike Shinoda is a better rapper JUST BY HEARING BOTH OF THEM.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Umm, I do realize people mix up words, but you call me stupid because of your mistake. Hypocrite much?
Also, no, Wayne is a much better rapper than Mike. Wayne has clever lyrics, while Mike is generic as hell, Wayne has better production,and Wayne has better flow.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
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KidSparky90 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Wayne has clever lyrics that everyday mainstream rappers talk about. Money. Bragging. Sex. Cars. Now I know that you have no knowlege about Rap and Hip Hop. I WIN!
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 LOL! Can you provide proof that EVERY Lil' Wayne song does that? Oh right, you can't, you just have to lie to try and make a point, proving I've won.
That's another win for me. After all, you keep running away because you have no points. =)
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 I never said all. But according to you, Mike Shinoda only raps about political stuff. And that is one song, which is not even his solo work. So I own you. Also, since you think that lil wyane has better lyrics than Mike Shinoda, that automatically makes you clueless about music. So I win.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I said that's all he does is rap about political stuff on Minutes To Midnight. The fact that you have to lie proves that you have no real points, and thus I win.
Plus, I've proven that Wayne has better/more clever lyrics than Shinoda, who just raps about crap that everyone has done a million times before. Also, C3 has a way higher Metacritic score than any LP album, so I win.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 No. Mike only raps in two songs in minutes to midnight. Only one of them is political. So therefore he doesn't only rap about political stuff in Minutes to Midnight. Another win for me. Actually, lil wayne is the one who constantly raps about money, sex, partying, or bragging (oh now what, 3 songs out of his 60-something songs doesn't have those stuff involved?). Mike has some topics that are actually touching and about real life.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, he raps about political issues (war is a political issue) on both songs, so that's yet another win for me.
Can you provide proof that Wayne doesn't rap about those issues on only 3 songs? Oh right, you're lying again, which is another win for me.
Mike doesn't rap about touching topics, he raps about teen angst, which is stupid and whiny. Another win for me.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Bleed it out is about taking extreme measures just to get what you want/your goal. That's not political. Im not being exact, probrably it's not 3 songs, but its around there. Why don't you give me proof of his songs that don't fit in those topics? The fact of the matter is, you can't. Mike rapped about teen angst cause the band was teen-angst (not anymore. look at the preview of the catalyst). Seriously, listen to the rising tied before you try to win.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Bleed It Out clearly as war metaphors, so it can be interpreted as a political song.
Why would I listen to the Rising Tied when 1. C3 has better reviews, 2. I don't like the one song I've heard from the album?
Also, it's up to you to prove that only 3 of his songs don't address those topics you mentioned. You're just too lazy, so you try to pin the burden of proof on me, but when it's you that makes the claim, it is up to YOU to prove it.
Another win for me.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Tell me some war metaphors in the song then, please. Like i said before, if you really think critics are everything, Justin bieber's last album was better than Recovery. Which is not true. You can't judge an album by one song. Thats what you told me. Same goes with you. So I guess you can't name three of his songs that doesn't have those topics. I win! P.S. Not exactly three, but a couple, if you know what I mean. lmfao!
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 "Hand grenade pins in every line"
"Shotgun I pull lock and load, cock it back and watch it go"
LOL, funny, because if Wayne had lyrics like that, you'd say it would be a song about violence.
Also, I already explained why JB and Eminem cannot be compared. You are clearly just ignoring my point because you can't counter it, so you pretend you never saw it. That proves I've won, as usual. Or does Tourette's affect your memory.
I know more than one Shinoda song. Another lie. I win!
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Still, the song is not about politics. Just because there are TWO political metaphors (the second one isn't even that political) doesnt mean the song itself is political. Another win for me. JB and Eminem cannot be compared? I know the can't be. Eminem is legendary. Why not compare him to something else? What about Rihanna? Yup. Her latest album is far better according to the critics (and they have about the same amount of reviews). Last time you said that she sucked.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, just because you don't interpret it as a political song, it doesn't mean nobody interprets it as one. Ever heard the term, "open for interpretation"?
I don't recall saying Rihanna sucked. Can you provide proof? Oh right, you're lying again, but last I checked, Rihanna isn't a rapper. Plus, he song with Eminem on Recovery is less than stellar. Plus, Eminem is known as one of the greatest rappers ever, so his albums are going to be judged on a much tougher scale. Sad, but true.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 "Plus, Eminem is known as one of the greatest rappers ever, so his albums are going to be judged on a much tougher scale. Sad, but true." I can say that with Michael Jackson's last album, invincible. Right?
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Sure, maybe MJ's album got lower than it deserved, but that said, it's still nothing special.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 You know more than one shinoda song? I thought it was just where'd you go. So you're the one who lied. So that's another win for me! Yay! P.S. Linkin Park song =/= mike shinoda song. An LP song is a song that mike rapped/sung in. A Mike Shinoda song is his solo work. But wait! you have minimal knowlege of fort minor! So thats another win for me. You should forfeit soon.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Yes, a Linkin Park song does = a Shinoda song, because Shinoda raps on LP songs. Obviously you're just raging, which is why you are asking me to forfeit, because you know that you've lost and are trying to end it as quickly as possible. You just ignore all my points once I've owned you, and then you try to move on to something new. LOL! You're hilarious.
Yes, this is another win for me.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Nope. I win because its a fact that Mike shinoda has better flow, lyrics, beats (lil wayne did not produce his songs in any of his albums). :) Im not the same person anymore, kinzie. Do you expect me to think "IMA PICK UP THE WORLD AND IM GONNA DROP IT ON YOUR F***ING HEAD" is better than Mike Shinoda? LOL
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, Wayne has better lyrics, flow, and beats (hence the higher review scores). Obviously you're just mad because I proved Wayne is better, and you had to resort to lies to try and make a point, which proves I've won.
Tell me this (watch you resort to a red herring): Why did C3 get better reviews than any LP album?
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Prove it then. And because critics aren't always accurate. Rising tied actually got positive reviews from critics. It's not in Metacritic however, therefore you can't really say that Tha Carter III had better reviews. And Rebirth had AWFUL critic reviews (metacritic score of 37). I actually listened to the album myself. Im proud to say it is the worst album of 2010.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Prove C3 has a higher Metacritic score than any LP album? Okay, go to Metacritic and see that no LP album as a higher score than C3. Nice try at the straw man attempt though.
The reviews that The Rising Tied does have wouldn't make it higher than 84, though.
Now, enough of you trying to ignore the question and just answer it: Why does C3 have higher review scores than any LP album.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Metacritic isnt something you should base all your facts on. Its like Wikipedia basically
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory I'm not basing all my facts on it, I'm just asking a simple question that he refuses to answer. Nice red herring argument, though.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 I know you've been giving a lot of crap to people over LP. They're not gonna stop. its devotion. You and all the fans ur messing with should agree to disagree. Everyone has their tastes. I get it that you rant about what bands "suck" I do too. We all have likes and dislikes. You know?
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory Then maybe Ben Moon should stop trying to convince me to like Mike Shinoda more than Lil' Wayne. I've already proven that Wayne is better.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 @DJMoonX3 They're BOTH talented in my opinion. I heard Lil Wayne doesnt write and its all freestyle. Thats hella cool. And well... Mike has better flow. But theyre TWO COMPLETLEY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. From two different genres. Neither is better. Both are an acquired taste.
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory No, Wayne has far better flow. There is nothing about Mike that separates him from the other rappers out there.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1
Maybe you cant see flow too well... Im a musician and a remixer. He often goes off tempo. For example, in Hot Revolver.
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory And she thinks that is original, therefore his flow is better than Mike Shinoda. That's a fail.
P.S. you like rebirth? I personally wanna break that album and throw it in fire. :D XD
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Dont diss my music tastes bro. Remember who's hosting the mixtape :p
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory Sorry :( But that's my opinion. Dont take it the wrong way. I respect your opinions.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Cuz my opinions are truth. MoonMoneys opinions are just trolling. Dont reply. and have her wallow in her own hatred.
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory Exactly.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory Nope, he has great flow. Clearly you have that closed-minded view on rapping, and think that rapping has to follow a strict set of rules that can't be broken. He might go off tempo, his rhythm might not be the tightest, but that's his style, and he's good at what he does.
Also, you just said Rebirth is his best album. NO. It's his worst, by far. C3 is his best album.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Close minded? Fuck you. Going off tempo and losing rhythm isnt a style. Rebirth showed that he had talent enough to expand. Bottom line: You're a troll.
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory Yes, it is a style. Kind of like how John Frusciante during his Dani California guitar solo, he has two guitar parts going on, one going on time, and one slightly off time. According to you, that's a horrible idea and it's wrong because one is off time.
Rebirth showed that he's not scared to try something different, and good for him, but it failed miserably. You are implying that different = automatically good, which isn't true.
Ah, more ad hominem attacks, eh?
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Dani California? Red Hot Chili Peppers? Ha. Musics dead now. I like music where I can understand what theyre saying anyways.
DJMaggotTheory 1 year ago
@DJMaggotTheory Ah, another red herring attempt. That's when you know you've lost an argument. =)
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 C3 sucks. :) Also, you are ignoring alot of my points. How does it feel to be owned?
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Can you provide proof that C3 sucks? Oh, is that another red herring attempt? That's a fail. I've owned you once again, and that's another win for me. LOL! You had to ask someone for help and you're still losing. =)
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Like i said, lil wayne sucks when it comes to lyrics, his beats are incredibly generic (particularly lolipop), and his flow is simply awful. And i've seen lil wayne in Young Money. He only sings about money, drugs, and sex and that bulls*** in there. Lil wayne is not a rapper. He's a crapper.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, Wayne's lyrics are great, especially on C3, and his beats are great. His flow is even better. Nice try, though.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Prove it. Explain how.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Ah, another logical fallacy. You see, you're asking me to provide proof to backup my statements, yet you try to ignore providing proof to back up your statements. Nice try, though.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Actually I have plenty of proof to back them up. Now stop resisting and tell me how lil wayne is so much better than Mike Shinoda.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 You have plenty of proof? LOL! Then show it. Once again, you're asking for proof, but are unwilling to give proof yourself.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 I asked you first.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Again, another red herring attempt. I've provided proof to back up everything I've said in the past, and now it's your turn. Funny, he keeps trying to delay himself giving proof ...
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Actually what you've done is say that lil wayne's flow, beats, lyrics, and production are better, and not give any proofs or reasons. Im not giving up on this, kinzie. The only proof you have is that his album Tha Carter III had a metacritic score of 84. However, Rebirth has a score of 37. None of Linkin Park's albums went that low. Fort minor? Well The Rising Tied isn't even on Metacritic.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 If you take The Rising Tide's scores on Wikipedia and average them out, it's lower than 84. And I'm also not giving up on this, as I know that Lil' Wayne is better than Mike, and nothing you say will change my mind because it's clear that I know more about music than you.
Also, I've given more proof of that. You asked for proof of Lil' Wayne's better lyrics, you ignored it. I gave proof that both of MTM's songs could be taken as political, and you ignored it.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Actually you never said how Lil wayne's lyrics are better. Another win for me! Now tell me how lil wayne is better flow, beat, lyric, and production-wise.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Actually, I did say how Wayne's lyrics are better. Once again, you have to lie to try and make a point, which proves I've won.
Oh look at that, another red herring argument.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Stop lying and stop delaying my question.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Another lie from you, and yet another red herring from you.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Nope. Now youre lying. Since you are constanly delaying your answer, I'm gonna say that I won, okay?
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I'm not lying at all. You're just mad because I am able to provide proof and you can't.
Once again, you're resorting to a red herring argument. That proves I've won. Typical you say "I won" even though you've clearly lost. You're so butthurt!
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Actually you havent given me proof except the fact that one of lil wayne's album got a good review (on the other hand, rebirth has a metacritic score of 37). Now you are constantly lying. Stop delaying my question and answer, please. Prove it that I lost. I won. Cause you refuse to give me some reasons why lil wayne is better than Mike Shinoda.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Umm, actually I have given proof of plenty of things. Like I said, you try to ignore them because you have no counter points, and just try to move on to the next point, like you're trying to do now.
I'm also not lying, that's what you're doing. You continuously lying proves I've won.
Also, once again, you're resorting to a red herring argument. That also proves I've won.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Prove it that youre not lying and i am. Also answer my question. I win cause you keep saying bulls*** just to avoid my question.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I'm not saying BS at all. The proof is right in these video comments, so go look yourself. Also, you're lying, not me. You trying to lie to try and make a point proves that I've won.
Also, once again, you're resorting to a red herring argument. Fail.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 You arent giving me proof. Btw i did look at the comments and i dont see any proof except that critic one.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 Nope, I've provided more proof than that. See, what you're trying to do is make the other person basically quit the argument because you keep trying to make them put more effort into the argument than you are, hence you asking for proof, while not being able to provide proof yourself when asked for it. Instead, you resort to red herring attempts to divert the argument. Sorry, not going to let that happen.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Sorry, not going to let you make up reandom stories and let you win. Now please answer my question. See? You've delayed for like, two hours. Forfeit?
DJMoonX3 1 year ago
@DJMoonX3 LOL! Thanks for proving my point, and providing yet another red herring attempt.
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
@MoonMoney1 Like i said, please answer my question. Since you are ignoring it, im guessing that Mike shinoda is better than lil wayne.
DJMoonX3 1 year ago