LOL between 15 and 16 mins nutn says that they run shotgun so rarely that they probably wont be out again till 2012. well that would be perfect timing to do a finale eval of the ksg since it is "out" now but on back order till forever and will be in stores in approximately 7 years LOL. love the ksg just wish i could get my hands on one
while its good too see new shotgun designs cant say that kel tec will make me change my old good 870 pump ......when you talk pump nothing beats a good old wingmaster ;)
I was wondering about a design consideration for the KSG. After seeing how those speed loaders worked with the more conventional pump shotgun, and the shape of the KSG stock, would it be possible to design the KSG to have more shells racked in the stock and have a bolt-like lever slam all the stored shells into one of the internal magazines? I know, I know, more complexity, but its another way to avoid the reload process as long as possible. Feasibility?
@redknight808 I was thinking the same thing, but wondered if it wouldn't be better to angle feed ramps as the crew recommended during the video. Maybe a sliding loader tray would be a great feature for a [later?] longer choked version. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to give up more inches of length for faster reload when it's already at 15-shot capacity. Just assuming that it would add length to have a sliding loader feature... maybe I'm wrong. Great idea, though.
Hey, nutnfancy, what kind of mount did put use on a shotgun to mount the Maelstrom G5? Referring to you "4Sevens Maelstrom G5: "Surefire Killer" by Nutnfancy" video.
@nutnfancy Sorry for being annoying in the comments. It's just that I didn't expect you to reply that fast, nor I expected you to notice my question. :)
And where did he buy that one inch alum scope ring? I'm looking for one myself, but all I could find were the expensive ones that cost 50$+. :(
I think this design is perfect for military and LE use, meaning dual tube. Does away with the need for ammo changing, load 1 tube with normal shot, the other with slugs, breaching rounds, whatever. If you need to change ammo, just switch to the other tube and pump it. Of course the bullpup design would make it unnatural to reload, but that can be worked around with training.
I don't know if anyone addressed it but, why only load the KSG with 9 rounds and then say you need to find time to reload. The whole point is to be able to have 15 total and not worry about reloading. You can't try to make it fair for the other shotguns because, that is what "might" make it better than the other you had. Other than that a decent vid
I asked Kel-Tec research and development via email, wish i had seen this earlier though. I would have asked u to ask Chad from Kel-Tec, if they ever plan on making the SU16-C chambered in 7.62 NATO. It would be freakin perfect instead of these 9-10 pound AR10's out now.
I still think this is a great idea on KelTec's part. The KSG got alot of hype at SHOT and now they are showing people it in action through someone who we know isn't a company rep. I already plan on getting one now I want it even more
@MARINE1146 A lot of people will try to be negative about Nutn in order to increase their viewers/listeners. It is not a stupid move, as it actually works...which is why I am removing your plug for his show. I was sent a link to the show and I got tickled when D.C. described Nutn as a "college kid". DC had NOT done his homework and was just running off at the mouth without any facts. It happens. Negative Nellies..such is life. -- Veri
@nutnfancy Can you answer as his sister, why his lips always look like they got done being wrapped around a cock? wait.....NM. Fanny packs and zooters...........very Jerimiah Johnson If you ask me...
@MARINE1146 if you watch nutnfancy for tactics then you are already fail....if you watch nutnfancy for info on weapons to help you form your own opinions on the weapon then you are win.
@manek1978 BWHAHAHAH...NUTTTER IS NOT A COMBAT VET. If you are a PREPPER...You can ask several REAL VETS on YOUTUBE How to prepare....YOu dont need to be Tactical...LULZ. Nutnfancy thinks hes high speed...hes even said it in videos before...Hes an airplane Pilot.
There were four of us standing at the gun counter in Clearfield, PA this morning wishing for 4 KSGs to find their way into town! I won't give you a hard time like the guys did, but we gotta see some of those puppies up here in PA soon. Looks like some of those Florida shops are taking advantage of people online.
I've wondered....have you guys ever thought about making a modular "corner" For those multiple target stages where you need to pie the corner? That would be an awesome addition.
It's hilarious that these guys post a video of themselves inducing a malfunction on a G27 and blame the gun, and then they have about 100 problems with the KSG and still claim to love the shotgun. How about some integrity?
Maybe some type of indicator that shows which tube is available to feed. Like some kind of green strip or arrow or dot that shows which tube is available for feeding. Depending on which way you have the switch. And it can just go black when your going to load the plus +1.
Great work fellas-I like the compactness of the KSG-I think the lack of availability may be a blessing in disguise-this buys time for Kel-Tec to optimize the platform. Outstanding vid that makes me jealous! KSG!! oh and Springfield XDm(i own an XD 45 and LOOOVVVVE IT!)
While the KSG is a great concept, packs plenty of firepower, it looks like it still needs those refinements that Nutn & PFI recommended during the video from their experience running it. I don’t think I’ll be replacing my 12GA Remington 7 shot 870 home defense model anytime soon for the KSG.
You know,that KSG was my fantasy weapon since i was 12.I always dreamt of a shotgun with a that kind of grip on the fore-end.Thank you Kel Tec for making my dream come true!
I would love it if you guys broke that KSG down for a field strip cleaning. I'd really like to see how its put together and how the internals work or are set up.
I hope Chad reads this comment, because they may want to consider changing the botton loading bay - into a loading through the butt pad of the stock, or do a top loading bay on the stock in between the cheek welds maybe.
The capacity and compactness of the KSG are great advantages but loading seems to be an issue, especially under duress. With a standard pump or auto, the rounds to in the tube, you chamber one, resume shooting. These sling placement issues, not having the selector on the right tube when trying to load, and all the unintentional dry fires are great food for thought when considering this gun for a defensive role. Looks are very cool, but it has to work as well. Great work TNP.
@nutnfancy Not too sure I still understand the point of short loading the KSG. One of the key benefits is having 7+7+1 in the chamber...a MONSTER advantage over the 870, 1300 or any other shotgun. Would have made a night & day difference on the eat lead course taking reloading out of the equation. Whatever, great vids anyhow.
Hey Chad, did I hear you say "don't need it in the middle"? I was under the impression that it has to be at the middle setting to chamber the +1 round. Is that not the case?
Wow, PFI Dad rocks. If the rest of you guys rocked your second runs as well as he did this vid would've only needed to be 5 minutes long ;D the KSG really seems to be fast on target! I think there's going to be one of these in my future.
I'm going to wait a year or two before thinking about adding this thing to the arsenal. Hopefully it pans out and can hold up to the reliability of other tac-shotguns, ie 500,590, or 870
The loading of the KSG is difficult at best. Using the index finger is not near as efficient as using the thumb on a tradtional shotgun. Not to mention all of the complexity associated with the switch and remebering to change and center it when needed. I'll take the Winchester everyday.
I'm waiting to see the times when the KSG is fully loaded. So far you havn't taken full advantage of one of the key selling points. I'm curious to see how much time you'll cut off your runs
I am lovin this series! Well produced, entertaining, and educational. Great Crew! It's also important to note that for all of the minor glitches with reloading, we should be giving Kel-Tec huge kudos for publicly field testing a gun that (for all intents and purposes) is still in the development stage. Added to that is the handicap of not fully loading the weapon (which has proved to be a very good idea), and Chad has handled the suggestions on improvements with candor and professionalism.
I'm diggin that leaning thing you do, it's good practice, but realistically, you should probably shoot from the LEFT shoulder when leaning around the LEFT corner. Maybe something to consider for next time.
Once again another excellent video from nutn'. Love that course you guys set up. Great job to those in TNP. Excellent work. Great data points. And thanks again.
KSG seems to point quicker, but the traditional pump seemed WAY better for follow-up shots thanks to its more front-heavy design. Novel idea for a gun, that KSG... Don't think I'll switch to a bull-pup shotgun, but I'd get one for my girlfriend since she seems to like it.
Nice Run and Gun series, for the KSG. I hope, when it goes to full production, Keltec takes the data points and applies them to the shotgun. Thanks for the videos, Nutn and friends.
@PFIDude great to see you as always in tnp. just a quick question on your offside under the dump pouch are you wearing a fixed blade. i noticed it on your run and couldnt remember if you mentioned anything about it
i'm totally down with the KELTEC idea, but just alittle sketch for me right now. the gun profiles are cool an i understand the concept. need some refining tho. not enough made for me to get my hands on one. these run an guns really do test the durability and reliability of all products
Chad ran the hell out of the KSG that time. God damn I can't wait for that thing to hit the stores. The T1/H1 looks like the perfect sighting system for that gun.
Awesome shooting guys! I have to say I was a little worried about what was going to happen next after PFIDad said something about being ready to do "geriatric #2" . . . lol
@bachelor11111977 Yeah, you are right. You can see it well from 2:37 on and it's not. It looks like some kind of hunting fleece shirt and pants, similar to Cabela's outfitter pattern.
The review leaves out certain obvious key points. I know lots of gun owners but not many play army man by running around shooting at targets. Combined arms tactics are a far more useful skill. The weapon makes possible equiping for dual targets in the home defense role. 00 buck is perfect for using against home invasion. But advanced reloaders can produce explosive shells for use against body armor for defending against ATF, FBI or attacks by similar thugs.
Hey Nutn, Lovin the run'n'gun vids. and really likin the KSG, Looks cool and has a decent ammo capacity for a pump. When will you be doing more nylon reviews and also as a possible idea / request could you do some tactical clothing reviews, such as in the TRU SPEC, Propper and such. In Multicam of course. Keep up the great work and have a great Easter.
Unless you are in a full combat situation, the KSG is going to be FULLY LOADED, if you can't get the job done with 15 rounds of 00 buck, or slugs then you have no buisness even holding the shotgun. Also, I was trained to load on the run like most that have been trained with shotguns. As far as the selector switch goes, that's just training and gross motor skill muscle memory. GREAT follow up vid Nutn, keep it up!
Lets face it:KSG isnt woderful shotgun that doesnt need to be loaded at all! I think using a gun is using whole system and leavin KSG without testing how it loads at field would be mistake. Both shotguns got about the same time score so its fair:) Now you can choose old or new;)
i gotta say, i like how the intro and outros get better and better editing and music, it's been cool to see the vid production develop over the (wow, it's a while!) years
Loadin KSG at full cappacity?Everybody knows that it tooks twice more shells.I think better put in test on how it runs.Is it reliable, accurate or ergonomic-well designed.Nutn and guys tried to compare old with new and as you can see both got its "+" and"-" If KSG can serve well in that conditions its cappacity will be an adventage-one of many at this gun.It will make us chose it in future as a battle shotgun:)
From what I have seen of the KSG, it seems to a damn hassle loading and worrying with the mag selector. I think your better off with a Remington 870. Loading the KSG is ridiculous.
one gripe about the ksg testing, not running the ksg at full load out is not a fair test. It may take longer to reload but the the purpose is to not have to reload.
I love your videos, high quality and thorough! These run and gun fields makes the shooting experience seem a lot more fun on another level than at the range. Keep up the work.
LOL between 15 and 16 mins nutn says that they run shotgun so rarely that they probably wont be out again till 2012. well that would be perfect timing to do a finale eval of the ksg since it is "out" now but on back order till forever and will be in stores in approximately 7 years LOL. love the ksg just wish i could get my hands on one
tav7177 2 weeks ago
@doggymatic They explain that in part one. ATF wont allow an auto change over. Sucks
richlpz 1 month ago
Nutn making fun of Chris Costa on the stance lol classic.
Rougewolf 1 month ago
while its good too see new shotgun designs cant say that kel tec will make me change my old good 870 pump ......when you talk pump nothing beats a good old wingmaster ;)
deusredeemer 1 month ago
an Idea for the KSG, When you pump, it could automatically switch each feed tube with every time.
doggymatic 2 months ago
@doggymatic ATF would be all over them and then it becomes an NFA shitfest class 3 weapon. Sucks I know.
Rougewolf 1 month ago
I wonder why not all of your videos are in HD. This one would have been badass to have in 720P.
Great job though!
FunkyPertwee 3 months ago
I need that kel tec hat.... Sick!
83PoWeRrAm 4 months ago
I was wondering about a design consideration for the KSG. After seeing how those speed loaders worked with the more conventional pump shotgun, and the shape of the KSG stock, would it be possible to design the KSG to have more shells racked in the stock and have a bolt-like lever slam all the stored shells into one of the internal magazines? I know, I know, more complexity, but its another way to avoid the reload process as long as possible. Feasibility?
redknight808 4 months ago
@redknight808 I was thinking the same thing, but wondered if it wouldn't be better to angle feed ramps as the crew recommended during the video. Maybe a sliding loader tray would be a great feature for a [later?] longer choked version. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to give up more inches of length for faster reload when it's already at 15-shot capacity. Just assuming that it would add length to have a sliding loader feature... maybe I'm wrong. Great idea, though.
HARLaredo 2 months ago
hey nut, have you had a double feed problem before with your 1300? i have had 1 that i can remember with my 20. but just one
photoboy2005 4 months ago
its a sick gun wish they could build a speed loader for that instead of finger banging for rounds and loading them one at a time
nanashi1o3 5 months ago
Too bad the KSG's capacity puts out of the Heavy Metal 3 gun division. It would be fun to run.
hotrolled50 5 months ago
Bad choice for Kel Tec to allow this kind of demo with a prototype.
yuks714 5 months ago
hobits do have good hearing LMAO!!! good one!
mrsentry08 5 months ago
That shotgun sure does well even in the desert.
SuperRip7 5 months ago
1:23 can you say FLINCH!
Glad im not the only one who has minor seizures with pump actions.
TacticalKnine 5 months ago
when dose this thing come out
thebtrlife 6 months ago
Hey, nutnfancy, what kind of mount did put use on a shotgun to mount the Maelstrom G5? Referring to you "4Sevens Maelstrom G5: "Surefire Killer" by Nutnfancy" video.
WarIsNeverPretty 7 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty Alright enough! LOL Nutn says he used a "one inch alum scope ring". Hope that helps. -- Veri
nutnfancy 7 months ago
@nutnfancy Sorry for being annoying in the comments. It's just that I didn't expect you to reply that fast, nor I expected you to notice my question. :)
And where did he buy that one inch alum scope ring? I'm looking for one myself, but all I could find were the expensive ones that cost 50$+. :(
WarIsNeverPretty 7 months ago
where is part 4?
ima5150 7 months ago
@ima5150 It's there.
WarIsNeverPretty 7 months ago
I think this design is perfect for military and LE use, meaning dual tube. Does away with the need for ammo changing, load 1 tube with normal shot, the other with slugs, breaching rounds, whatever. If you need to change ammo, just switch to the other tube and pump it. Of course the bullpup design would make it unnatural to reload, but that can be worked around with training.
jks2389 7 months ago
What happened to section 4 of 4 of this review? There is 1, 2, & 3 posted but not 4.
sferrin2 8 months ago
@sferrin2 watch?v=p1fvjncwX8I&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
just3half3evil3 8 months ago
@sferrin2 It's called the Saiga emerges for part 4 for some reason. Probably because, wait for it, a Saiga emerges. :)
uchio 6 months ago
I don't know if anyone addressed it but, why only load the KSG with 9 rounds and then say you need to find time to reload. The whole point is to be able to have 15 total and not worry about reloading. You can't try to make it fair for the other shotguns because, that is what "might" make it better than the other you had. Other than that a decent vid
Shamuman13 8 months ago 3
@Shamuman13 True that!
cowboyjim8 7 months ago
Fatherman is kicking ass!
MobFrenziedHomicide 8 months ago
I asked Kel-Tec research and development via email, wish i had seen this earlier though. I would have asked u to ask Chad from Kel-Tec, if they ever plan on making the SU16-C chambered in 7.62 NATO. It would be freakin perfect instead of these 9-10 pound AR10's out now.
ablenetech 9 months ago
@ablenetech The RFB is 8lbs and IT fires the 7.62 NATO round... it's also a bullpup design... check out the .308 series here on TNP ;)
There aren't any plans to chamber the SUs in that caliber as of yet.
Thanks for watching!
-Chad
chadderick71 8 months ago
I still think this is a great idea on KelTec's part. The KSG got alot of hype at SHOT and now they are showing people it in action through someone who we know isn't a company rep. I already plan on getting one now I want it even more
MSSynsyterGates 9 months ago
can i come to the excuse zone? i got a lot of em :D
thaddeusabear 9 months ago
@thaddeusabear LOL! Anytime ;)
-Chad
chadderick71 8 months ago
another great video, can't wait to get my hands on a KSG. but not sure why I keep having to resubscribe :-\
tincan77 9 months ago
@nutnfancy The trigger Does not reset if you pull it back while cycling the kel- tec KSG Shotgun... Have you Found this to be True?
illysqwilly 9 months ago
@illysqwilly According to Kel-Tec the reset issue has been fixed. As seen is the video watch?v=W638QRLqUyc
thetruth707 9 months ago
@illysqwilly The trigger reset issue has been resolved :)
-Chad
chadderick71 8 months ago
Spyderco Delica 4 sighting at 42:24 ...
Good vid, ignore the haters.
QuiksiIver 10 months ago
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tacticoolme 10 months ago
@MARINE1146 A lot of people will try to be negative about Nutn in order to increase their viewers/listeners. It is not a stupid move, as it actually works...which is why I am removing your plug for his show. I was sent a link to the show and I got tickled when D.C. described Nutn as a "college kid". DC had NOT done his homework and was just running off at the mouth without any facts. It happens. Negative Nellies..such is life. -- Veri
nutnfancy 10 months ago
@nutnfancy Can you answer as his sister, why his lips always look like they got done being wrapped around a cock? wait.....NM. Fanny packs and zooters...........very Jerimiah Johnson If you ask me...
Caden25pct 10 months ago
what is the stock on pfi dudes 870?
Delta8559272 10 months ago
@MARINE1146 if you watch nutnfancy for tactics then you are already fail....if you watch nutnfancy for info on weapons to help you form your own opinions on the weapon then you are win.
manek1978 10 months ago 16
@manek1978 BWHAHAHAH...NUTTTER IS NOT A COMBAT VET. If you are a PREPPER...You can ask several REAL VETS on YOUTUBE How to prepare....YOu dont need to be Tactical...LULZ. Nutnfancy thinks hes high speed...hes even said it in videos before...Hes an airplane Pilot.
Caden25pct 10 months ago
PFI dad killing the handgun round
logankipgen 10 months ago
I love the "excuse zone"
Phatpally 10 months ago
45,000 your viewer,s are back and so are with one of your best ever
jpmsave 10 months ago
11:40 made me change my mind about getting the KSG. I don't wanna die.
TacticalJunkie 10 months ago
Work on your shotgun reloads. Hope i dont get blocked for making a comment.
TacticalJunkie 10 months ago
33:03-33:08, in the annotation it says ZDM, not XDM
ROHCAB91 10 months ago
Lol @ the excuse zone
eragon2121 10 months ago
Hey Chad!
There were four of us standing at the gun counter in Clearfield, PA this morning wishing for 4 KSGs to find their way into town! I won't give you a hard time like the guys did, but we gotta see some of those puppies up here in PA soon. Looks like some of those Florida shops are taking advantage of people online.
JackedLobster 10 months ago
I've wondered....have you guys ever thought about making a modular "corner" For those multiple target stages where you need to pie the corner? That would be an awesome addition.
fiftyhunnug 10 months ago
0.0 pfidudes scary good with that 1300
soul111smasher 10 months ago
what's that music?
asznam 10 months ago
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Finally heard what I've been waiting to hear since I first saw the KSG... PFI brought his Saiga.
airsoftvt 10 months ago
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airsoftvt 10 months ago
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airsoftvt 10 months ago
Finally heard what I've been waiting to hear since I first saw the KSG... PFI brought his Saiga.
airsoftvt 10 months ago
what holster is that at 19:28
antwan17 10 months ago
That KSG is one stupid cool shotgun. I want 3.
soul111smasher 10 months ago 32
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"Got your lunch money?" :)
angelonegrh 10 months ago
whats the pistol at 0:39 ?
krompir01234 10 months ago
Cartographers rule!!!
oweng37 10 months ago
Nutn
Can you let me know the name and artist of the song used?
I tried looking on the site states in the comments.
ndinadis 10 months ago
Nutn' looks like u lost a little weight in this vid?
dabears1132 10 months ago
It's hilarious that these guys post a video of themselves inducing a malfunction on a G27 and blame the gun, and then they have about 100 problems with the KSG and still claim to love the shotgun. How about some integrity?
beltjones1 10 months ago
@beltjones1
I thought they blamed the mag?
oshkoshbjosh986 10 months ago
@beltjones1 Don't waste our time with Glock Fanboy comments.....we do love the KSG.......and we love Glocks....but they both can and do fail.
PFIDude 10 months ago
@beltjones1 its a prototype...so its going to not be 100%...while glock messed up on something it shouldn't have messed up on
usbadass 10 months ago
Man,,, that KSG malfunction is scary...
vascularcylinder 10 months ago
Maybe some type of indicator that shows which tube is available to feed. Like some kind of green strip or arrow or dot that shows which tube is available for feeding. Depending on which way you have the switch. And it can just go black when your going to load the plus +1.
east78210 10 months ago
You dudes are freaking awesome!!
Love EVER freaking video you guys post!!
east78210 10 months ago
this is amazing, cause i never knew the worlds gonna end and we are all gonna need to fight with weapons like this tomorrow..
gshdrums 10 months ago
PFI, man you were smokin with the 1300
excxflyr 10 months ago
Great work fellas-I like the compactness of the KSG-I think the lack of availability may be a blessing in disguise-this buys time for Kel-Tec to optimize the platform. Outstanding vid that makes me jealous! KSG!! oh and Springfield XDm(i own an XD 45 and LOOOVVVVE IT!)
liveecarbme 10 months ago
While the KSG is a great concept, packs plenty of firepower, it looks like it still needs those refinements that Nutn & PFI recommended during the video from their experience running it. I don’t think I’ll be replacing my 12GA Remington 7 shot 870 home defense model anytime soon for the KSG.
Everett07630 10 months ago
Great stuff guys! Love the testing and data points we're all getting out of the KSG.
74Hobbes 10 months ago
semi-auto version coming?
heratus007 10 months ago
Way to run in front of the muzzle at 20:32. Great work, dude.
beltjones1 10 months ago
This is great I love TNP and Kel-Tec!
copastatic 10 months ago
PFI Dad freaking Rocks
lucaslkb 10 months ago
This is my favorite video in the series so far. You guys look like you had a great time!
ComandnConquerFreak 10 months ago
This is my favourite video in the series so far. You guys look like you had a great time!
ComandnConquerFreak 10 months ago
Hey Nutn, awesome video as always!
BTW, what music is that in the beginning? Loved it!
xDSinis 10 months ago
You know,that KSG was my fantasy weapon since i was 12.I always dreamt of a shotgun with a that kind of grip on the fore-end.Thank you Kel Tec for making my dream come true!
qew6878qewq 10 months ago
I love the wood on that Winchester 1300. I wish those were easier to find. That seems to be a rare piece.
Paintbl99 10 months ago
Impressed with the idea keltec has and would like to see the little details shown in the video applied. N then I'll pick one up
cikkid 10 months ago
I would love it if you guys broke that KSG down for a field strip cleaning. I'd really like to see how its put together and how the internals work or are set up.
samuraitactical556 10 months ago
Dude, check out how fast this guy can use those speed loaders,
/watch?v=o9o-Aa6ePqE&
Thermoman95 10 months ago
I hope Chad reads this comment, because they may want to consider changing the botton loading bay - into a loading through the butt pad of the stock, or do a top loading bay on the stock in between the cheek welds maybe.
This would bypass all sling issues while loading.
Bulwark1911 10 months ago
The capacity and compactness of the KSG are great advantages but loading seems to be an issue, especially under duress. With a standard pump or auto, the rounds to in the tube, you chamber one, resume shooting. These sling placement issues, not having the selector on the right tube when trying to load, and all the unintentional dry fires are great food for thought when considering this gun for a defensive role. Looks are very cool, but it has to work as well. Great work TNP.
adaman04 10 months ago
@nutnfancy Not too sure I still understand the point of short loading the KSG. One of the key benefits is having 7+7+1 in the chamber...a MONSTER advantage over the 870, 1300 or any other shotgun. Would have made a night & day difference on the eat lead course taking reloading out of the equation. Whatever, great vids anyhow.
mski349 10 months ago
PLEASE more crunch from Lizard one king!!
I concur! PFI's moves with that winchester are the deadliest I have EVER seen him!
vassal11 10 months ago
PLEASE more crunch from Lizard one king!!
vassal11 10 months ago
I prefer my ak-47 with a silencer and red dot and grenade launcher.
sizzo666 10 months ago
@sizzo666 ...
random1211 10 months ago
Great video. I really enjoyed it.
kingjamez80 10 months ago
These guys were having so much fun and it shows. Needs more cowbell though. ;-)
siralec2 10 months ago
It looks like Modoc County , California!
killtroy811 10 months ago
Has Nutnfancy and them ever came across any rattlesnakes at any time while they were in the desert?
n310ea 10 months ago
Nutn, your editing gets better and better. The closing footage was very cool. PFIDude was deadly with that 1300.
SuperiorAutocraft 10 months ago
Hey Chad, did I hear you say "don't need it in the middle"? I was under the impression that it has to be at the middle setting to chamber the +1 round. Is that not the case?
Supermassively 10 months ago
You managed to fire your pistol in-sync with the music starting at 1:49.
Supermassively 10 months ago
FLIP THE LEVAH.
HurtsWhenYouLaugh 10 months ago
way to go Chad on the pistol :) good to see him blow those targets apart
hax0r117 10 months ago
That was impressive PFI dude ! you guys need to have gun reps come out more often!
chavezchavez556 10 months ago
@chavezchavez556 It was fun to have Chad join us and we do plan to work with many other manufacturers as well. Thanks for watching!
PFIDude 10 months ago
What shirt and pants are you wearing?
rocpyro 10 months ago
I'm side-piping like a single-point sling, lol
YokoWenis 10 months ago
pfidude is consistently SMOKE with the shotgun rapid fires... it's like he's on the PS3 or something...
texasAUtiger 10 months ago
@texasAUtiger No, it's like he's in real life and a really good shooter. Video games... lol.
Supermassively 10 months ago
@texasAUtiger More like XBOX 360;)
PFIDude 10 months ago
Wow, PFI Dad rocks. If the rest of you guys rocked your second runs as well as he did this vid would've only needed to be 5 minutes long ;D the KSG really seems to be fast on target! I think there's going to be one of these in my future.
1AbominAble1 10 months ago
Around 1:56 you can see the round flying
Spelunker0211 10 months ago
Got me tired just watching you guys. Good job.
Winchester is still hard to beat.
slipdisc 10 months ago
I'm going to wait a year or two before thinking about adding this thing to the arsenal. Hopefully it pans out and can hold up to the reliability of other tac-shotguns, ie 500,590, or 870
brycen313able 10 months ago
is that a tag plate carrier and if it is how do you like it
redraptor26 10 months ago
doing it the russian way. shoot through the hostage.
khmerguy35 10 months ago
The loading of the KSG is difficult at best. Using the index finger is not near as efficient as using the thumb on a tradtional shotgun. Not to mention all of the complexity associated with the switch and remebering to change and center it when needed. I'll take the Winchester everyday.
jcbirdrunner 10 months ago
LOL "Those hobbits got good hearing".
BugInJim 10 months ago 26
Famous last words, Chad: "I'm ready."
Frostwolf223 10 months ago
I'm waiting to see the times when the KSG is fully loaded. So far you havn't taken full advantage of one of the key selling points. I'm curious to see how much time you'll cut off your runs
passout18 10 months ago
Love the vids man. thank you.
darius112 10 months ago
i didnt know Nutn was a dirty little puppy! 1:06 XD
xPOSSUM45x 10 months ago
@xPOSSUM45x lol yeah, it took me like a full 5 seconds to get it too, I was like uhhh... oooohhhh OH! hee hee
RUSEMANE 10 months ago
I am lovin this series! Well produced, entertaining, and educational. Great Crew! It's also important to note that for all of the minor glitches with reloading, we should be giving Kel-Tec huge kudos for publicly field testing a gun that (for all intents and purposes) is still in the development stage. Added to that is the handicap of not fully loading the weapon (which has proved to be a very good idea), and Chad has handled the suggestions on improvements with candor and professionalism.
Hutehund 10 months ago
My 870 super mag will doublefeed like a motherfucker if you short stroke it with field loads
GrimReefer870 10 months ago
yall need to grow some pmc beards for flavor
bofeity 10 months ago
every video i watch makes me more envious and hate my life so much more, pfffff
you are living my dream
p52ntwrk 10 months ago
will the gun fire with the tube switch in the middle position?
HeroHasGuns 10 months ago
Damn, black hat boy was shooting that pistol good.
UlfrIronwood 10 months ago
I'm diggin that leaning thing you do, it's good practice, but realistically, you should probably shoot from the LEFT shoulder when leaning around the LEFT corner. Maybe something to consider for next time.
Skunkofoot 10 months ago
You're like a Gazelle . . or what was the name of that animal with a trunk? :D
dullbrass 10 months ago
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d1digital 10 months ago
This is like watching a real life version of DOOM or Left 4 Dead. You guys should dress those targets up like Zombies. :)
iTek42 10 months ago
Once again another excellent video from nutn'. Love that course you guys set up. Great job to those in TNP. Excellent work. Great data points. And thanks again.
rvrboatgmblr 10 months ago
KSG seems to point quicker, but the traditional pump seemed WAY better for follow-up shots thanks to its more front-heavy design. Novel idea for a gun, that KSG... Don't think I'll switch to a bull-pup shotgun, but I'd get one for my girlfriend since she seems to like it.
ThunderousWrath 10 months ago
33:06, message in top right has mistype. Says ZDM45 instead of XDM. Great vid! Hope to link some of my own in the near future.
Aswaggoner 10 months ago
I love that 1300...
skyhop 10 months ago
I vote that PFI Dad needs his name officially changed to "Fatherman."
Debodamus 10 months ago 27
Nice Run and Gun series, for the KSG. I hope, when it goes to full production, Keltec takes the data points and applies them to the shotgun. Thanks for the videos, Nutn and friends.
rayscar2 10 months ago
when does the KSG go into full production?
gasdorf 10 months ago
@PFIDude great to see you as always in tnp. just a quick question on your offside under the dump pouch are you wearing a fixed blade. i noticed it on your run and couldnt remember if you mentioned anything about it
Legend490 10 months ago
i'm totally down with the KELTEC idea, but just alittle sketch for me right now. the gun profiles are cool an i understand the concept. need some refining tho. not enough made for me to get my hands on one. these run an guns really do test the durability and reliability of all products
catfish013 10 months ago
@nutnfancy If you put the selector in the middle on the KSG while loading can you load either side or do you have to put it on the side your loading?
Basiclayton 10 months ago
Is nutn wearing A-TACS camo?
Boneyman 10 months ago
Chad ran the hell out of the KSG that time. God damn I can't wait for that thing to hit the stores. The T1/H1 looks like the perfect sighting system for that gun.
Maat922 10 months ago
CHAD AND FITS WOULD FIT IN GREAT TOGETHER
hahaha fitsy always has chains n random stuff on
Eraseallhope 10 months ago
Great series. Love this stuff.
SnakeStrike77 10 months ago
Awesome shooting guys! I have to say I was a little worried about what was going to happen next after PFIDad said something about being ready to do "geriatric #2" . . . lol
drzmanproject 10 months ago
Oh by the way is that a worn and washed woodland camo that Nutn is wearing or is it a different type od camo?
bachelor11111977 10 months ago
@bachelor11111977 Looks like a multicam fleece jumper or jacket.
Zapateur 10 months ago
@Zapateur very much doubt its multicam, but thanks for commenting.
bachelor11111977 10 months ago
@bachelor11111977 Yeah, you are right. You can see it well from 2:37 on and it's not. It looks like some kind of hunting fleece shirt and pants, similar to Cabela's outfitter pattern.
Zapateur 10 months ago
Best 46 minutes ive spent on this site.
strongman17 10 months ago
The review leaves out certain obvious key points. I know lots of gun owners but not many play army man by running around shooting at targets. Combined arms tactics are a far more useful skill. The weapon makes possible equiping for dual targets in the home defense role. 00 buck is perfect for using against home invasion. But advanced reloaders can produce explosive shells for use against body armor for defending against ATF, FBI or attacks by similar thugs.
goodtimebob 10 months ago
If I needed employment I would wanna work for you Nut'n. You are a not slack. I expect you to do well.
ironheadgram 10 months ago
Hey Nutn, Lovin the run'n'gun vids. and really likin the KSG, Looks cool and has a decent ammo capacity for a pump. When will you be doing more nylon reviews and also as a possible idea / request could you do some tactical clothing reviews, such as in the TRU SPEC, Propper and such. In Multicam of course. Keep up the great work and have a great Easter.
bachelor11111977 10 months ago
PFI owns it with that 1300, kick ass great video as always
pabushcraft 10 months ago
Unless you are in a full combat situation, the KSG is going to be FULLY LOADED, if you can't get the job done with 15 rounds of 00 buck, or slugs then you have no buisness even holding the shotgun. Also, I was trained to load on the run like most that have been trained with shotguns. As far as the selector switch goes, that's just training and gross motor skill muscle memory. GREAT follow up vid Nutn, keep it up!
MThrow 10 months ago
Nice solid run by PFIDad and some great improvement from Chad! Good shooting all around. Thanks for posting nutn!
duragezic 10 months ago
"Eat Lead" give many & valuable data points for Kel-Tec
Prowler1 10 months ago
ill buy it
bigedd756 10 months ago
Lets face it:KSG isnt woderful shotgun that doesnt need to be loaded at all! I think using a gun is using whole system and leavin KSG without testing how it loads at field would be mistake. Both shotguns got about the same time score so its fair:) Now you can choose old or new;)
MrKansai1 10 months ago
i gotta say, i like how the intro and outros get better and better editing and music, it's been cool to see the vid production develop over the (wow, it's a while!) years
aznelite325 10 months ago
Loadin KSG at full cappacity?Everybody knows that it tooks twice more shells.I think better put in test on how it runs.Is it reliable, accurate or ergonomic-well designed.Nutn and guys tried to compare old with new and as you can see both got its "+" and"-" If KSG can serve well in that conditions its cappacity will be an adventage-one of many at this gun.It will make us chose it in future as a battle shotgun:)
MrKansai1 10 months ago
From what I have seen of the KSG, it seems to a damn hassle loading and worrying with the mag selector. I think your better off with a Remington 870. Loading the KSG is ridiculous.
shanwade 10 months ago
Nutn are you cross eyed dominant?
glockified82 10 months ago
one gripe about the ksg testing, not running the ksg at full load out is not a fair test. It may take longer to reload but the the purpose is to not have to reload.
Mrseandseand 10 months ago
I love your videos, high quality and thorough! These run and gun fields makes the shooting experience seem a lot more fun on another level than at the range. Keep up the work.
bizerk2o6 10 months ago