Considering accumulating vocabulary I would ask you one question. While learning new words should I pick up all possible meanings (that might take a while even for one word) of word being learned or it's just about general meaning primarily? For example such words as to draw, to charge, to cover and so on that have variety of meanings.
@semmiifI tend to focus on the meaning within the context of what I am reading or listening to,and may be glance at other meanings. It takes a long time, and many exposures to really get a sense of what a word means, I mean the full range of meanings.
@lingosteve thank you very much for the hint! Honestly I really admire your accomplishments in language learning. By the way my name is Sergiy, I live in Ukraine
I agree with you... The fact that a thousand words account for 95% of the language is a somewhat misleading idea. 95% is one word on twenty that you don't uderstand! And almost always the words that allow you to understand what it's about! So obviously one should learn as fast as possible this 95% basis, but to think that being "95% able" to understand what's being presented isn't right!
As we keep working on developing our PASSIVE VOCABULARY then
sooner or later the words will move from the passive to the active category. That is true we will be in survival mode to stretch more and more to develop more and more vocabulary in a language. What a great way to think and understand and approach language learning. Russ, 6/29/10
I don't know about ALWAYS having to grasp for words in a foreign language. I think eventually you can get it as good as your native language. But even in our native languages we often forget words. At least I do. I'll know a word in Arabic but sometimes I'll have to think for a long time for the English equivalent. There have even been times when I just gave up and just looked up what the English word was.
What are your learning activities? How long have you been in Germany? Do you walk around with an iPod and listen over and over to interesting content in German? Have you joined LingQ to use the resources that are available free of charge there?
you must have a special gift because istrugle big time to learn German and I live here, the words seem to me so much longer than english and all the articles make it almost impossible to get all the gramatic right whats the point in speaking a language if you sound like ur chewing marbles to the naitive speaker.
This is exactly what I keep telling people who are concerned about the goldlist system, because they can't "feel" it helping them. I feel like copying this video to all my subscribers. Actually, I'm gonna do just that.
It would be awesome to have conversations with people where each side is using a language they feel most comfortable with and which the other person understands (like in interviews). Too bad most people either freak out in the middle or think "they are not learning" when they talk this way lol. :|
I agree that it's a good idea not to correct people while they speak, because it disrupts the natural flow of speech/conversation. My Russian teacher last year always would do nothing but listen during oral reports, and then talk about the mistakes afterward and make general comments.
I'd say it all depends on what kind of mistakes a student makes and how often. A good teacher will make the decision to correct or not to correct a student based on many criteria. Some students will perform better than others; some will make the same mistake over and over again despite being corrected numerous times. Yet others will often correct themselves once and then never make the mistake again.
Yes, that does make sense. In order to use words we must first have them available, and they become available from repeated exposure (in context). So, it's best to absorb as wide a range of topics and context as we can. Probably a good way to maintain freshness and interest as well. A virtuous circle then.
Long ago I came up with a theory (based solely on my personal experience) that you have to repeat a word three times in order to remember it: once, right after you hear it; the second time about a week later, and then, finally, about a month later. The last two times you'll have trouble remembering the word, but the *next* time you'll need the word, you'll recall it very quickly, even if you haven't heard or spoken it for a long, long time.
Nice video. I'm currently working on building my passive Japanese vocabulary for the past 2 months and I've found my understanding of media and my enjoyment of the language has increased almost 2-fold.
Considering accumulating vocabulary I would ask you one question. While learning new words should I pick up all possible meanings (that might take a while even for one word) of word being learned or it's just about general meaning primarily? For example such words as to draw, to charge, to cover and so on that have variety of meanings.
semmiif 5 months ago
@semmiifI tend to focus on the meaning within the context of what I am reading or listening to,and may be glance at other meanings. It takes a long time, and many exposures to really get a sense of what a word means, I mean the full range of meanings.
lingosteve 5 months ago
@lingosteve thank you very much for the hint! Honestly I really admire your accomplishments in language learning. By the way my name is Sergiy, I live in Ukraine
semmiif 5 months ago
@semmiif Thank you Sergiy and your written English is absolutely excellent!
lingosteve 5 months ago
57000??
plc20100 1 year ago
I agree with you... The fact that a thousand words account for 95% of the language is a somewhat misleading idea. 95% is one word on twenty that you don't uderstand! And almost always the words that allow you to understand what it's about! So obviously one should learn as fast as possible this 95% basis, but to think that being "95% able" to understand what's being presented isn't right!
clarinini 1 year ago
As we keep working on developing our PASSIVE VOCABULARY then
sooner or later the words will move from the passive to the active category. That is true we will be in survival mode to stretch more and more to develop more and more vocabulary in a language. What a great way to think and understand and approach language learning. Russ, 6/29/10
silverfoxidm 1 year ago
I don't know about ALWAYS having to grasp for words in a foreign language. I think eventually you can get it as good as your native language. But even in our native languages we often forget words. At least I do. I'll know a word in Arabic but sometimes I'll have to think for a long time for the English equivalent. There have even been times when I just gave up and just looked up what the English word was.
saxquiz 2 years ago
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shawie1800 2 years ago
DavidCurtin,
What are your learning activities? How long have you been in Germany? Do you walk around with an iPod and listen over and over to interesting content in German? Have you joined LingQ to use the resources that are available free of charge there?
lingosteve 2 years ago
you must have a special gift because istrugle big time to learn German and I live here, the words seem to me so much longer than english and all the articles make it almost impossible to get all the gramatic right whats the point in speaking a language if you sound like ur chewing marbles to the naitive speaker.
davidcurtin1 2 years ago
Brillant!
Gosto dos seus comentários, sempre inteligentes além do que trazem sempre algo de prático e útil!!!
zimmermann10 2 years ago
This is exactly what I keep telling people who are concerned about the goldlist system, because they can't "feel" it helping them. I feel like copying this video to all my subscribers. Actually, I'm gonna do just that.
usenetposts 2 years ago
I appreciate your speech in French and Russian, excellent.
Thanks a lot.
teddythefrency 2 years ago
It would be awesome to have conversations with people where each side is using a language they feel most comfortable with and which the other person understands (like in interviews). Too bad most people either freak out in the middle or think "they are not learning" when they talk this way lol. :|
yahags 2 years ago
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Your next video should be 'what I know about Australia and Australian English' delivered entirely with Austrayan Accent.
Dare ya, ya Yankee showoff
daveyork0 2 years ago
I agree that it's a good idea not to correct people while they speak, because it disrupts the natural flow of speech/conversation. My Russian teacher last year always would do nothing but listen during oral reports, and then talk about the mistakes afterward and make general comments.
snovymgodom 2 years ago
I'd say it all depends on what kind of mistakes a student makes and how often. A good teacher will make the decision to correct or not to correct a student based on many criteria. Some students will perform better than others; some will make the same mistake over and over again despite being corrected numerous times. Yet others will often correct themselves once and then never make the mistake again.
AstAMoore 2 years ago
Yes, that does make sense. In order to use words we must first have them available, and they become available from repeated exposure (in context). So, it's best to absorb as wide a range of topics and context as we can. Probably a good way to maintain freshness and interest as well. A virtuous circle then.
acromel 2 years ago
Long ago I came up with a theory (based solely on my personal experience) that you have to repeat a word three times in order to remember it: once, right after you hear it; the second time about a week later, and then, finally, about a month later. The last two times you'll have trouble remembering the word, but the *next* time you'll need the word, you'll recall it very quickly, even if you haven't heard or spoken it for a long, long time.
AstAMoore 2 years ago
Nice video. I'm currently working on building my passive Japanese vocabulary for the past 2 months and I've found my understanding of media and my enjoyment of the language has increased almost 2-fold.
ImAlwaysR1ght 2 years ago