i really appreciate ghamidi sahab, the way he proceed the debate, the way he dont intervene dr israr sahab in between his talk...really awesome...we younger generation need to learn, how we should discuss or debate abt things even in the presence of difference..
Ghamdi is himself an inkar e hadis he dont belv on sahi bukhari o muslim etc but while talking in a debate he would go to give the refrences frm the hadis books i cant undrstand tht, all of the answer tht ghamdi given was just irrelevant, where as dr israr described it much better
@irshaad008@manidar1977 Is it not surprising that they differ each other despite the fact they have the same book? Allah says: "The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.2:113
@newblazingstar Is it not surprising that they differ each other despite the fact they have the same book? Allah says: "The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.2:113
logic behind the Aayahs depend on the time and 'pass-e-manzar' of that... just read and aaply it every where in every situation.. thats not something logical...
Turning to Him, and be careful of Him and keep up prayer and be not of the polytheists who divided their religion and became sects every sect rejoicing in what they had with them 30:31-32..Munazra is nothing but dispute.
Dr Ghamidi is taking the discussion towards more logical sense backed by Quranic texts.This climate of change is strongly coming into Muslim umma to save the religion from the hands of so called clergies and put an end to their absolute control over it.I believe that so long as islam plays in the hands of traditional contractors of faith, we will never see a true islamic state in the world. If i am wrong, please go back 1300 years and show me only one pure Islamic state. Islam needs to be saved
It really startling how Dr. Israr Ahmed is unable to support his argument from Quran, Sunnah and acts of Sahabas. It seems that Dr. Israr invoked his logic and whims more in the 5 points rather than referring to Quran and Sunnah. I respect him very much and in fact he is my Quran teacher as a beginner, but in this debate clearly Ghamidi had an upper hand. Ghamidi's scholarship is commendable. Dr. Israr looked frustrated at times.
Dr. israr Ahmed one of the best and perfect and excellent islamic teacher.There is nobody like this. I salute him, he is right 100% muslim. About Ghamdi he is not well known in islam, why he removed beared, and in his body language he is look like munnafiq.
hahaha I mean Israr preaches Holy Quran all his F__life an yet he has no fuckin clue about what kind a laws was implement in Caliphate time sorry 4r all those ppl who follow him lol "shocker" for me Israr has no fkin knowledge of Laws in the time of Khilafat "AYAIN"BAYAN"SHAYAN and he clams to be the biggest spotter of Caliphate time.hahaha Israr Go a head hell fire is waiting for ur arrival..! May Allah saves Prophet Umma form Israr's kind of deceiving ppls Ameen
Amazing, how Ghamdi is stating historical facts but Israr, though I respect him & his knowledge is trying one-one-upmanship instead of refuting Ghamdi with facts & logic. Ghamdi's points are based on the Holy Quraan & authentic Hadith. Islam needs more Ghamdi. Of course, it needs Isrars too. Good to watch a healthy discussion. Muslims need more such dialogues, especially of Taboo topics.
both are great scholars of islam, and both are following an intellectual way of proving their points without attacking personally. great way of debate, may allah give this way of prooving points.
Why did Hazrat Ibrahim(AS) say that his Lord is the One who raises the sun from the West and sets it in the East? He is teaching the world the nature of Allah. This should be the scale of every Muslim to decide if the seen or unseen make any sense. Under this guideline, one should understand the Holy Quran.
Dr, Israr sb ka jan bhi ek or nishani hay ka ALLAH ne Pakistanio ki kotahiyon or ijtimayee buraiyon ki waja se in se kinara kar lia hay.. Plz sari qoum toba karay or Allah se reh ki dua karay,,
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
fuck Allah and fuck all arabs and moslems, fuck islam. Nuke Mecca and Medina!!
Dr Israr Allah ki taraf sai muslmano kay leay aik Tohfa thay. pakistan aik Azeam Quran kay Mubalagh sai Mahroom hu gay. Allah nay un ko Quran kay ammor samjay ke bohat salaheat de thie.
Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.
میرے مسلمان بھایوں اور اسلامی بہنوں، ہر ایک عالم اس دور میں اس کی مرضی کی کرنے کو کہتا ہے کسی نے سوچا کہ اللہ کی کیا مرضی اور نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کا کیا طریقہ تھا اندھی تقلید چھوڑیے اور اپنایے اللہ کی مرضی کو اور اتباع رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کو پھر کامیابی ہے اللہ پاک نے فرمایا مفہوم ہے کہ اللہ کی رسی کو مضبوطی سے تھاموں۔ کسی مولانا کی تقریر کو نہیں۔ جو قران میں ہے وہ حق ہے اور نبی ص کی صحاتۃ ستۃ صحیح کو استعمال میں لایے۔
GAMDI SB BASICALLY AIK MUNTASHAR ADMI HA WO HAR JAGA APNE AP KO BOHAT AQAL MAND AUR DANISH WAR SAMJTHE HA,JIS WAJA WO HAR KISI KI RIGHT BAAT SE B IKTHELAF KARTE HA AUR APNA KNOWLEDGE JARNE KI NAKAM KOSISH KARTE HA.
GAMDI SB BASICALLY AIK MUNTASHAR ADMI HA WO HAR JAGA APNE AP KO BOHAT AQAL MAND AUR DANISH WAR SAMJTHE HA,JIS WAJA WO HAR KISI KI RIGHT BAAT SE B IKTHELAF KARTE HA AUR APNA KNOWLEDGE JARNE KI NAKAM KOSISH KARTE HA.
@GreaterPakistan Ghamdi is realy a nice scholar bahi... dnt abuse him... he has something thats why he is talking now... so dnt abuse anyone.. you should research about Ghamdi.. he is a great man.
My apologises , i have removed the comment . As good Patriotic Pakistani i have respect for everyone. (i dont know why i left that comment maybe during that day i was violent) anyway watch out for tomorrow i will upload tribute to Mohammad Ali Jinnah Quiad-e-Azam, one of my favorite personalties, LOVE JINNAH PAKISTAN - LONG LIVE PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
Ghamidi ke mene jitne bhi programe dekhe hen us men is aadmi ne hamesha islami taleemat ke against hi baat ki he. aik muhatram Aalim e Deen koi baat karta he to ghamidi us ki bilkul nafi karta he or apne aap ke islamic scholer kehta he.
aap bataen kia aap ko yeh kaheen se scholer lagta he??????????
Tahir ul qadri is gud scholar but his charity " MINHAJ WLEFARE FOUNDATION "Headquarter U K Nelson corrupt people are sitting there whu dot send money to poors instead they are buying there own properties and that public funds they using for there own purposes astaghfirullah Allah almighty save us from these fitna and cheaters orgnisation ameen plz dot spam this message help ppl throwing there money in hell and waste jaza kallah khair
@afridi1100 we dont need any agent. kahan kahan se jhoot leker atey ho tum loog. kabi kabi mughey hansi ati hai ik molvi keh raha tha k ager sameder mein do machliyan bhi lar rai hon to us mein bhi qadiyaniyon ka hath hai. plz stop lie. be a truthful muslim. hamarey pyarey nabi(saw) ne fermaya jis baat ki sachai ka pata na ho usey phelana nai chahye. so be a good musalman like ahmadi musalman. always speek truth.
@afridi1100 YES FOLLOWER OF KAZZAB NEED AGENTS WHO TELLS ALWAYS LIE
SEE YOU MULLAS. SEE SCANDLE OD MUNZUR QURESHI. LOOK AHMADIYYA PREDUCTION AGAINST zIA UL nA hAQ WE ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF PROPHIT(SAW) WE MAKE HISTORY WITH OUR BLOOD. WE DONT KILL INOCENT PEOPLE. U PEOPLE ARE AGAINST ISLAM. U DESTROYED THE FACE OF ISLAM IN WORLD. WE ARE PREACHING ISLAM IN THE WORLD AS LOVING RELIGIUS.
mirza likhta hay, meri jo kitabain hain, in kitabo ko her shkhs mohabat or ulfat ki nigha say daykhta hay, or in kay mani say fayda uthata hay, mager jo KANJRIO KI OLAD hain wo in per yakeen ni kartay
ayna kamalat e islam, page 547 , 548
ab batao kaysi kaysi ghalian bakta tha mirza ghulam ?
For all of u who are against these two gr8 persons u just see ur self n then point fingers to others, you will taste in hereafter what u have said against them
@khoobroo You are absolutly right brother, they are Agent of USA and wants to destroy Islamic value and wants to interpret according to thier own fiqa introduced by the Abdul Wahab near about 200 years ago
Brother!! Drinking wine is an act that may harm others because the person drinking it losses conciousness. Whether a person drinks it with his on money or others its effect remains the same. Thus it is a crime that is punishable.
Israr Ahmed is quoting an EXCEPTION. As an EXCEPTION, to save your life, you can also eat pork or drink alcohol. That does not mean Islam allows pork or alcohol. How can someone who knows so much make such an argument??
Jab tak aap chup ter, tanhai main koi bhi jaram ker rahay hain, bara say bara bhi, jis ka kisi ko pata nahi chalta. Even kisi ka katal bhi kertay hain or kisi ko pata nahi chal raha. aap kuch bhi karo Hakoomat kia ker sakti hay, nothing. Laykin jub aap ka juram samnay aa jata hay, to chahay chota bhi ho, us ko us ki sangini kay hisab say to sariat main hay saza milay gi.
Aap apnay gher main chup ker kuch bhi kertay phiro; jub tak kay mukhbari na ho.
If he is drinking out in the open, then he is bringing bad influence on the society and hence he should be lashed. But if he is drinking inside his home, then he can do whatever he wants and no govt can punish him.
Ghamdi Sb. nay bilkul sahi kaha "jis cheez ka taluq oor logon say hay us ko zaroor nafiz kia jaay ga, or jis cheez ka taluq sirf maray say hay ISLAMI hakomat us ko nafiz nahi ker sakti".
To Ghamdi Bahi ager koi apnay gher main nanga ghomta hay, to woh us ka zati(personal) masla hay. Lakin jab who sarak(road) per BAY-PARDA aata hay to ddosray logon ko parayshani/taklleef/ or dosray logon kay liay gunah ki waja or parayshani ki waja banti hay. baray/ bachay BAY-PARDA ko daykhan gay & get hurt.
Saying shahada is one of the three condition for avoiding death and that's what is froced conversion.. heck muhd himself said people of meccah convert or leave meccah or die .. sounds like forced conversion to anyone who is not drunk on islamic grandeur
Atleast find out who this Javed Ghamidi is to start with....the guy who believes and preaches that Esa (as) will not return as promised by Allah.....there will be many Dajjals like him before the arrival of Esa (as) who will deny that Esa (as) will not return...he is a fitnah for us all and he deserves a smelly shoe chain around his neck and a nice donkey ride home...
We pray for more educated scholars like Javaid Ahmad Ghmidi.We need these kind of scholars these days very much.Our land no doubt is very furtile for narrow minded Mullas like Israr sahib but we have to change the attitude of our illiterate nation, because they have already suffered too much. Barelvi,Sunni,Shias,Deobandis ,bala ,bala,bala are all the result of illiteracy of our people and are idiots.I have not heard anybody like Ghamidi before.Excellent.
I respect both of them very very much but in many ways Gamidi has a point..which i think is quite valid..(this is what i think)...i dont have much knoweldge ..but this is my understanding
Dr. Israr ko ZABAR DASTI ka bara shoque hy. Zabar dasti ye kiya jasakta hy Zabar dasti wo kiya jasakta hy. In se zara ye poochen kiya apne ghar me b ye itni hi zabar dasti krte hen??? Wese ye zabar dasti krne ke certificate kis se liya hy unhon ne? Me b lena chahta hon. shayad islami hukoomat me mujhe b koi qazi wagera ka uhda mil jaye???
Who is this person , big scron on his face, It looks he spent life hating everything..Retard offers tax exemption on faith.Dufeer thats economic terrorism......The land under ur feet (pakistthan) is a Hindu land.....
Let god decide whose land it is,You know the answer if u have concious in you.But u couldnt help it...How could u deny ur existance.You need to justify urself,So take lame execuses.Plzz tel me how does it make ur land?,Aryan theory is a conspiracy and euro centered..German propaganda.From ur view a german has more right over ur home than u .
blah blah blah...typical right wing RSS Bull SHIT!!!!!!!! dont you ever get tired of eating VHP/BJP/RSS SHIT packaged as Halwa?
It's not german propoganda. Its archeological fact. but i dont think thet taught you that in the 2 room 1 computer university that you went too. Why dont you give your land back to the Aryans first and then I'll do the same. by the way, you ignorant ass doesnt even know Aryans werent Germans. Youve seen too many WW2 movies.
Y dont u engage in dialogue , And decide for urself.But lets be fare and tak in a non retarded and with out slangs of any kind.Plzz let me know if you are intrested.
I only know the names of RSS and VHP.I am not aware of the ideology as u are.I am happy that you consider elite class.That indeed has to be earned in life.I hope you have earned that in your life.And i congragulate you.Regarding me I am doing masters in molecular biology,At stanford,USA.I do not even save from that 2bit , but love my campus job.
my Son. Ive earned more than you probably every will.
regarding your lack of knowledge of VHP and RSS, if you are US born and bred, which I dont think you are from your sentence then being an Indian you need to educate yourself on what grows and flourishes in your own house. Not knowing that and then making fun of the problems at your neighbours just makes you look like an asshole.
Brother , u guessed it right, I am from india,It has been 3 , years since in usa.Probably i know my country better over you.I know But if it makes you feel self righteous mocking RSS and VHP go ahead.Thats, a skill u have mastered from generations.Its no fun to me to see a little kid loosing its eye to an suicide bomber. You may be right ,i am a student for life.Good for you if u earned enough for life.I belive you only have to get rich once.Earning doesnt intrest me as much as learning does.
so you do know what the VHP and the RSS stand for. fucking liar you turned out to be Sir. A Fucking 3rd rate Liar who cannot even state the truth behind the anonymity of the internet. For Shame. You feel sorry for the child? As you should. but feel sorry for the men and women butchered by the Hindu Extremists snakes that breed and dwell in within your own house.
Boy its so easy to push your buttons.Haahahah... i wish they would pay back.I would enroll in other course too.But this is not pakistan......do they ask money back there?...U are soo hilarious.
"WAT a waste of life"....u ARE.Its my personal opinion, nee not be genral truth.Plzz keep mailing me "The more u express ur self, The more fun u are!!!
I thought you had all the spice you needed with The Chaddi force back ground and the fake GF that is actually a blow up doll...
again, it is truly shocking just how ignorant are you...as I said, the fault is mine for throwing stones in Tatti. Yes, Tatti. Now go and explain that to your fake GF you prick.
The only know i donot know.The process of study starts with ignorance proceeds to observation and ends in reason. On the other hand i am happy to know u,such an awfull intellectual who runs on parameters set by us(ignorants in ur bubble world),Recive our values and live like a programed robots,Retarded human.....Peace be on you,U really need it. Start discovering yourself. Truly u are a "mohammedan"
what a looser and social retard you are. Branding an entire community. I believe your ignorance has not yet proceeded to even observation levels...
a true bigot and a fucking looser.
Here's one for your...social retardation proceeds to extreme emotional ineptness and ends in people talking about non existant Girl Friends that are in fact mail ordered blow up dolls for Desi freaks like you. Chootiya.
Y would i brand an entire community to be retards,Where did u find so in my talk.Infact i praised u as a "mohemeddan" R u not,Do u consider ur self a non mohammadan?,A munafiq, or kafir? .No existant? daaaaaaaa........hihiihi...i can smell smoke.
If it makes u happy let me tell u U r "SOCIALLY UNRETARED" ,"Balanced emotionally".Go have your lamb brain kid.Sleep soon ,else zionists will come.HIhihihiihi....U are dissopinting me ,comon make some serious tak ,U are hilarious when u are urself.
Plzz let me know what is really RSS, and VHP.I only know their names and abrevations.Not much beyond it.One is free to think not to act .
Moral compass,Do u have one ?.Comon u and morals do go togather.
I am not u ,Living ur life, JInns at night,Hell of fire,Skins given again after frying.Too much for today,U bored me,Ill talk to u when i need entertainment.
Darling its not pakistan,We are 1.2 billon. Its a subcontinent itself.
Book written by retards like you,Conspiracy theorist, warmongers,A prostitue by definition is a person whos will and acts are oppsite.For ex you are machulys bitch.
'We are 1.2 Billion people' so WTF does that have to do with anything? WTF does that have to do with you lying all the bloody time Son?
I did NOT specify which books to read. I just said ANY book would be good for an idiot like you. One step at a time son. Plus your English could use some work as well. Or is that the way your supposed to be at the KWIK-E mart? :)
you Son, are an 'intellectual' prostitute. What you profess is reason but have proven to be a Liar. Opposite. So eat that bitch.
Its an attribute of self righteous, To be contempt of his past.You make me tickle..I clearly could see identity crisis in you .If i am not wrong are u anti semitist,Anti democratic,Anti feminist,Racist,Anti hindu,Anti bhuddist,Anti christian,Anti judaic...Micro sized haahha..u clearly have no idea of a bramhan.Lets hope you r right. No wonder my jewish gal frnd adresses your community as "RETARDS".I really like u ...ur funny
now there you go again. Whats with the unending lying? What part of my past have I condemned? on second thought dont answer that. You pretending not to know what RSS and VHP were established you as a liar and thus eliminated credibility.
and pray tell what does being a Brahmin or Khashtariya or a Dalit have to do with the size of one's brain. So you are that type huh? Maybe here's something else you dont know, Dr. Ambedkar was a dalit and he gave you your constitution so did he have a small brain?
what a prick.
I cant be anti Semitic as Im Muslim. That makes me a semite you ignorant chooteay.
Pity you feel the need to hide behind your Jewish girlfriend. If she brand an entire faith as retards, she's not much brighter than you.
Daaaaa,she is masters in emotional pscychology from berkly,Comon faith is somethig is devoid of reason, Thats where it differs from beleif.That y its called beleif.She doesnt brand the ideology but in genral the community,I was reading ur mails to her.We keep laughing,U are nice entertainer.I have deepest respect for ambedkar.He indeed was a spirited soul.See its hard for you to understand division of labour and dignity of labour.I belive" all humans are born free and unique".
oh and by the way...I believe your 'GF'..if she isnt a blow up doll with a blow hole where a social retard like you gets to put his 3rd class shrivelled dick....got her degree studying stephen R covey books. Fuck you, fuck her more for having bad taste than anything else.
Please by all means laugh and revel in your own pathetic mediocrity. and revel in the residue of your own excrement.
ab ja...ja aur apni maan kee chut main mera lun day day...
"ill go and bun some fuking cash"....hihihihihhiii.Typical prouct of mechualy,Yeah u proved a muslim charachter.....On the othe hand it brings little spice in us also.ILL surely show this message to her .plzz keep mailing me.After u burn some cash....Make sure u return home safe,May be as suicide bomber at ur steps to have breakfast in heaven.
Hi hihhi.How old are you "8"....First tell me about RSS and VHP, Their ideoligies,Their execution,Their impact.
Donot worry about them,ill tell u a secret of indian,We know how to clip the wings and tails if some so called extremists crosses a line.Dont worry we would be in a situation of targeting civilians through F16,Puttng our army on auction to us for pretty dollars.Forgot u r rich than i could ever be.Thanks dude u r good entertainer to my gf.
and pray tell what further 'LINE' do your VHP RSS snakes have to cross? isnt butchering 3000 innocent civilians enough?
what lying inanity filles bull shit sandwitches your fine establishment server..
but I forgot...you CLAIMED to NOT EVEN KNOW what that VHP and RSS were so you are a self proven Liar. Hence nothing you say can be taken at any value anymore. Utter garbage...
This discus should be held in a Islamic Country not in Pakistan. Is Pakistan a Muslim country?
watch President Zardari's videos of recent scandals. drinking wine. living in American Hotels with Pakistanis' Money 2800000 rupees for each person(even his son was with him)
Calling Call girls in their Hotels....what is this? Is all world Blind? no they are not.. When something happen in Denmark with the name of Mohammad(PBUH) they come to presecution.. but how strong is their own Emaan???
Come on, the government cannot FORCE a person if he/she is not fasting.....Ghamdi is right. If that's the case then I should have the right to force the government to fast....
brother such an accusation on any muslims is bad. either give people proofs and references which validate your accusation otherwise a muslim should no accuse another muslim of any wrong doing without proof
i feel like watching WWF. but with Daleel and logic. my God these people are good. Just see how much you learn from learned discussions. And people dont take sides, both are great scholars of our time and very very respectable for us.
Ihave you ever seen a scholar (Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani) ? If you litsen his specches .. believe me you will forget GHAMIDI ... ISRAR to kisi khatay may ata hi nahi hai ... yanabi d0 t c 0m pay un ki speech aik dafa sun kay dekhein ... believe me you will be amazed ... you bet!!!
it seems that for Dr israr's islam is just preaching killing and he has not talked other than punishment but reality is entirely different long live ghamdi sahob
Jazakallah , Dr.israr talks more with daleel of quran and hadiths and mashallah is very knowledgable and has produced very educated people in his quran academy,one of them is shuja uddin. dr zakir naik choose him for peace tv. dr.israr challenge for secular muslims. he is a follower of maududi and also like allama iqbal. i think one must study a person before making comments
Dr israr the greatt... may Allah give you jannah
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
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i really appreciate ghamidi sahab, the way he proceed the debate, the way he dont intervene dr israr sahab in between his talk...really awesome...we younger generation need to learn, how we should discuss or debate abt things even in the presence of difference..
shadabhasmi1 2 weeks ago
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shadabhasmi1 2 weeks ago
Ghamidi sahab u r a real scholar
PAKISTAN77801 3 weeks ago
Ghamdi is himself an inkar e hadis he dont belv on sahi bukhari o muslim etc but while talking in a debate he would go to give the refrences frm the hadis books i cant undrstand tht, all of the answer tht ghamdi given was just irrelevant, where as dr israr described it much better
irshaad008 1 month ago
@irshaad008 @manidar1977 Is it not surprising that they differ each other despite the fact they have the same book? Allah says: "The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.2:113
Don they follow Quran?
reasonlight 3 weeks ago
Both are Great but Ghamidi is Best
newblazingstar 1 month ago
@newblazingstar Is it not surprising that they differ each other despite the fact they have the same book? Allah says: "The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.2:113
Dont they follow Quran? Both are professionals.
reasonlight 3 weeks ago
Dr. Israr Ahmed great....
logic behind the Aayahs depend on the time and 'pass-e-manzar' of that... just read and aaply it every where in every situation.. thats not something logical...
Dextroymr 2 months ago
one of the great debates in Islam !
gorfaust 3 months ago
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I we follow Quran, all fragmentations abolish. Following sects is SHIRK. Allah says:
مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَلَا تَكُونُوا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ ﴿٣١﴾ مِنَ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا شِيَعًا ۖ كُلُّ حِزْبٍ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ فَرِحُونَ
Turning to Him, and be careful of Him and keep up prayer and be not of the polytheists who divided their religion and became sects every sect rejoicing in what they had with them 30:31-32..Munazra is nothing but dispute.
reasonlight 3 months ago
Dr Ghamidi is taking the discussion towards more logical sense backed by Quranic texts.This climate of change is strongly coming into Muslim umma to save the religion from the hands of so called clergies and put an end to their absolute control over it.I believe that so long as islam plays in the hands of traditional contractors of faith, we will never see a true islamic state in the world. If i am wrong, please go back 1300 years and show me only one pure Islamic state. Islam needs to be saved
humaenterprize 4 months ago 2
i guess this is not about gahmdi wins or ISRAR ahmd ITs aWl about truth ,,,,,
sahrifiiiiiiiiiiiiii 4 months ago
May Allah elevate the ranks of Dr. Israr Sb.
kashiffaran 4 months ago
It really startling how Dr. Israr Ahmed is unable to support his argument from Quran, Sunnah and acts of Sahabas. It seems that Dr. Israr invoked his logic and whims more in the 5 points rather than referring to Quran and Sunnah. I respect him very much and in fact he is my Quran teacher as a beginner, but in this debate clearly Ghamidi had an upper hand. Ghamidi's scholarship is commendable. Dr. Israr looked frustrated at times.
intdx 5 months ago
Dr. israr Ahmed one of the best and perfect and excellent islamic teacher.There is nobody like this. I salute him, he is right 100% muslim. About Ghamdi he is not well known in islam, why he removed beared, and in his body language he is look like munnafiq.
zeeah2003 5 months ago
Javed ahmad is well knowledge and a calm and cool person with explanatio's... dr sb like doing a race with javed...
007fahad1 7 months ago
Both are Indeed Great Philosophers and Islamic Scholars ... May ALLAH bless the soul of Dr Israr Ahmed...
rajahamzakhan 7 months ago
hahaha I mean Israr preaches Holy Quran all his F__life an yet he has no fuckin clue about what kind a laws was implement in Caliphate time sorry 4r all those ppl who follow him lol "shocker" for me Israr has no fkin knowledge of Laws in the time of Khilafat "AYAIN"BAYAN"SHAYAN and he clams to be the biggest spotter of Caliphate time.hahaha Israr Go a head hell fire is waiting for ur arrival..! May Allah saves Prophet Umma form Israr's kind of deceiving ppls Ameen
Hmmdog 7 months ago
i nlove dr israr we are muslims
yousafkhan0011 8 months ago
i am agree with ghamidi,,,islam is not difficult religion,every time we thing about jannat and jahanam who pray for Allah???
umerabadpirzada 8 months ago 2
Amazing, how Ghamdi is stating historical facts but Israr, though I respect him & his knowledge is trying one-one-upmanship instead of refuting Ghamdi with facts & logic. Ghamdi's points are based on the Holy Quraan & authentic Hadith. Islam needs more Ghamdi. Of course, it needs Isrars too. Good to watch a healthy discussion. Muslims need more such dialogues, especially of Taboo topics.
amoralis123 9 months ago 9
@amoralis123 brother , u r absolutely ryt...i respect both scholar...we need more scholar like javed ahmad ghamidi.....
shadabhasmi1 2 weeks ago
@shadabhasmi1
Thanks! I am an ordinary student of Abraham's Trio.
amoralis123 2 weeks ago
both are great scholars of islam, and both are following an intellectual way of proving their points without attacking personally. great way of debate, may allah give this way of prooving points.
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israr or Javed Ahmed Ghamidi dono heee hrami kuty hi kuty pig jahil kisi baat ka ilme nahi ha en dono ko LANTIII LOG BAGHRAT
ahmad11774 10 months ago
@ahmad11774 Qadyani kee aulad tum laug propegenda karte raho magar tum laug baaton aur chehron se pehechane jaate ho.
zeeah2003 5 months ago
is ghamdi marzai or qadyaani?
chickonion 10 months ago
gamdi sb ka knowledge bohat he. ab koi dr israr k ishq main mubtalaa ho kr kuch b keh le.
akdlhr 1 year ago 3
gamdi sb ka knowledge bohat he.
akdlhr 1 year ago 4
dr u
israr hawala nai gusaa kr rahe hain... dont mind anybody.....gamdi sahb ki bat baar baar kat rahe hain
akdlhr 1 year ago 2
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Why did Hazrat Ibrahim(AS) say that his Lord is the One who raises the sun from the West and sets it in the East? He is teaching the world the nature of Allah. This should be the scale of every Muslim to decide if the seen or unseen make any sense. Under this guideline, one should understand the Holy Quran.
zaheerahmad 1 year ago
i love you sir Dr israr
sameer594 1 year ago
na darhi na koi islami hullya very funny
rose3170 1 year ago
ghamdi is looking like a christian
rose3170 1 year ago
absolutely right Dr Israr Shb, the state of responsibility
srizshaikh 1 year ago
ghamdi is a undercover qadyani..
MyGujranwala 1 year ago
@MyGujranwala Jaahil Insaan
baiboo 1 year ago
@aurhit .............jnaab ghamdi ke har baat he judaa hooti hay...aap sirf yeah bata do K ghamdi ka matlab kia hay
rose3170 1 year ago
GHAMDI ka mutlab kia hay? YEAH koi new firqa to nahi?
rose3170 1 year ago
@rose3170 haan bahi ...yeah ghamdi tou ajeeb batain kerta hai. aik jaga yeah bhi kaha tha, k zakat maa baap ko bhi de sakte hain..ajjeb admi hai
shoaibasherazi 1 year ago
@rose3170 u need to start listening to him instead of making baseless opinions
baiboo 1 year ago
Dr, Israr sb ka jan bhi ek or nishani hay ka ALLAH ne Pakistanio ki kotahiyon or ijtimayee buraiyon ki waja se in se kinara kar lia hay.. Plz sari qoum toba karay or Allah se reh ki dua karay,,
waseemmanzoorwattoo 1 year ago
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Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
fuck Allah and fuck all arabs and moslems, fuck islam. Nuke Mecca and Medina!!
Muzzieslayer1 1 year ago
Dr Israr Allah ki taraf sai muslmano kay leay aik Tohfa thay. pakistan aik Azeam Quran kay Mubalagh sai Mahroom hu gay. Allah nay un ko Quran kay ammor samjay ke bohat salaheat de thie.
computernadeem 1 year ago 3
Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.
imranzarrar 1 year ago
Dr. Israr a great scholar. Mr. Gamdi is himself on wrong drirection and guiding others to follow the same.
kansari35 1 year ago
@kansari35 and who are you? a scholar?
baiboo 1 year ago
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السلام علیکم، ورحمت اللہ وبرکاتہ
میرے مسلمان بھایوں اور اسلامی بہنوں، ہر ایک عالم اس دور میں اس کی مرضی کی کرنے کو کہتا ہے کسی نے سوچا کہ اللہ کی کیا مرضی اور نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کا کیا طریقہ تھا اندھی تقلید چھوڑیے اور اپنایے اللہ کی مرضی کو اور اتباع رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کو پھر کامیابی ہے اللہ پاک نے فرمایا مفہوم ہے کہ اللہ کی رسی کو مضبوطی سے تھاموں۔ کسی مولانا کی تقریر کو نہیں۔ جو قران میں ہے وہ حق ہے اور نبی ص کی صحاتۃ ستۃ صحیح کو استعمال میں لایے۔
جزاک اللہ
karachikabhai 1 year ago
Mr. israr's taliban typ ruthless way of statecraft is not civilized for contemprary world.
franzxxxx 1 year ago
we have lost a great Islamic Scholar Dr Israr Ahmed...
TheNaseerAwan 1 year ago
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GAMDI SB BASICALLY AIK MUNTASHAR ADMI HA WO HAR JAGA APNE AP KO BOHAT AQAL MAND AUR DANISH WAR SAMJTHE HA,JIS WAJA WO HAR KISI KI RIGHT BAAT SE B IKTHELAF KARTE HA AUR APNA KNOWLEDGE JARNE KI NAKAM KOSISH KARTE HA.
landscapech 1 year ago
GAMDI SB BASICALLY AIK MUNTASHAR ADMI HA WO HAR JAGA APNE AP KO BOHAT AQAL MAND AUR DANISH WAR SAMJTHE HA,JIS WAJA WO HAR KISI KI RIGHT BAAT SE B IKTHELAF KARTE HA AUR APNA KNOWLEDGE JARNE KI NAKAM KOSISH KARTE HA.
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GreaterPakistan 1 year ago
@GreaterPakistan Ghamdi is realy a nice scholar bahi... dnt abuse him... he has something thats why he is talking now... so dnt abuse anyone.. you should research about Ghamdi.. he is a great man.
Moon1987Jan 1 year ago
@Moon1987Jan
My apologises , i have removed the comment . As good Patriotic Pakistani i have respect for everyone. (i dont know why i left that comment maybe during that day i was violent) anyway watch out for tomorrow i will upload tribute to Mohammad Ali Jinnah Quiad-e-Azam, one of my favorite personalties, LOVE JINNAH PAKISTAN - LONG LIVE PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
GreaterPakistan 1 year ago
@GreaterPakistan Thanks man.. thats look like a good boy. thanks again.. May you Live Long. Ramzan Mubarakh
Moon1987Jan 1 year ago
Ghamidi ke mene jitne bhi programe dekhe hen us men is aadmi ne hamesha islami taleemat ke against hi baat ki he. aik muhatram Aalim e Deen koi baat karta he to ghamidi us ki bilkul nafi karta he or apne aap ke islamic scholer kehta he.
aap bataen kia aap ko yeh kaheen se scholer lagta he??????????
ppk124 1 year ago
Far too many Kuffar posing as Muslims. Thus far, posers have ruled Pakistan.
Dr. Israr was a true Muslim.
RealMusicKing 1 year ago
Barailwis can never support anyone but that lying dargah monkey
maroof00 1 year ago
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Tahir ul qadri is gud scholar but his charity " MINHAJ WLEFARE FOUNDATION "Headquarter U K Nelson corrupt people are sitting there whu dot send money to poors instead they are buying there own properties and that public funds they using for there own purposes astaghfirullah Allah almighty save us from these fitna and cheaters orgnisation ameen plz dot spam this message help ppl throwing there money in hell and waste jaza kallah khair
MyIslam123 1 year ago
ghamdi agent of qadianis
afridi1100 1 year ago
@afridi1100 we dont need any agent. kahan kahan se jhoot leker atey ho tum loog. kabi kabi mughey hansi ati hai ik molvi keh raha tha k ager sameder mein do machliyan bhi lar rai hon to us mein bhi qadiyaniyon ka hath hai. plz stop lie. be a truthful muslim. hamarey pyarey nabi(saw) ne fermaya jis baat ki sachai ka pata na ho usey phelana nai chahye. so be a good musalman like ahmadi musalman. always speek truth.
islam ahmadiyyat zindabaad
attauls 1 year ago
@attauls u need agents and u have many agents
followers of kazzab, murdabad
afridi1100 1 year ago
@afridi1100 look mr if u want to talk then dont tell lie. watch (rah e huda 12/05/2010) on youtube you will know truth.
attauls 1 year ago
@attauls who need agents more thn followers of kazzab ;-)
afridi1100 1 year ago
@afridi1100 YES FOLLOWER OF KAZZAB NEED AGENTS WHO TELLS ALWAYS LIE
SEE YOU MULLAS. SEE SCANDLE OD MUNZUR QURESHI. LOOK AHMADIYYA PREDUCTION AGAINST zIA UL nA hAQ WE ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF PROPHIT(SAW) WE MAKE HISTORY WITH OUR BLOOD. WE DONT KILL INOCENT PEOPLE. U PEOPLE ARE AGAINST ISLAM. U DESTROYED THE FACE OF ISLAM IN WORLD. WE ARE PREACHING ISLAM IN THE WORLD AS LOVING RELIGIUS.
LOOK THE FACTS
ISLAM AHMADIYYAT ZINDABAAD
attauls 1 year ago
@attauls should i tell u some lies of ur mirza ? should i tell u some abuses of ur mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani `?
no alim e deen, no matter how bad his deeds r , no one has claimed to be prophet like ur mirza mardood,
and should i tell u some scandels of son of mirza mardood ?
u cant kill because u cannot kill ;-) u r just blood suckers and boold suckers cant kill
dajaliat murdabad, followers of kazzab murdabad
afridi1100 1 year ago
@afridi1100 Galiyan Sun ke dua deta hun in logon ko Rehem hai dil mein gez Josh gataya hum ne.
plz follow Hazzrat Muhamad(SAW)
Islam Ahmadiyyat Zindabaad
Hum To App SAW) ka islam Sari duniya mein phelain ge
Rok Sakoo To Rok Lo
Islam Ahmadiyyat Zindabaad
attauls 1 year ago
@attauls ok mr follower of mirza kazzab
mirza likhta hay, meri jo kitabain hain, in kitabo ko her shkhs mohabat or ulfat ki nigha say daykhta hay, or in kay mani say fayda uthata hay, mager jo KANJRIO KI OLAD hain wo in per yakeen ni kartay
ayna kamalat e islam, page 547 , 548
ab batao kaysi kaysi ghalian bakta tha mirza ghulam ?
afridi1100 1 year ago
For all of u who are against these two gr8 persons u just see ur self n then point fingers to others, you will taste in hereafter what u have said against them
white55555x 1 year ago
Dr. shb, May your soul rest in peace! (Aameen)
sih9199 1 year ago 38
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its seems fight of two dogs
haiderpk123 1 year ago
Yaar kuch tau sharam karo , tum na tau Pakistani lagte ho aur na hi Muslim.
rajahamzakhan 1 year ago
Both agent of Shaytan, they want to introduce Islamic System(so called) of Saudi Arabia bcz they belongs to "Najdi School of thought."
Everybody know in this World that they are the slaves of USA and UK,
They actually want to destroy the signs and History of Islam as they did in Saudi Arabia.
Before them more than 90% of Muslim Ummah is either Kafir or Mushriq.
The interpret Holy Quran and Ahadith according to their own sweet choice.
khoobroo 1 year ago
@khoobroo
first of all
just tell me how they have destroyed signs in saudi arabia ???
astheticbilal 1 year ago
@astheticbilal
u know they're followers of Wahab Najdi.
"One word is enough for a wise man."
khoobroo 1 year ago
@khoobroo
2nd of all
dr.israr is not saying any thing wrong
ur saying this bcoz u dun have any knowledge of islam !!
astheticbilal 1 year ago
@khoobroo You are absolutly right brother, they are Agent of USA and wants to destroy Islamic value and wants to interpret according to thier own fiqa introduced by the Abdul Wahab near about 200 years ago
omermarwan 1 year ago
@omermarwan thank u brother.
khoobroo 1 year ago
@PinkyFromPK
Brother!! Drinking wine is an act that may harm others because the person drinking it losses conciousness. Whether a person drinks it with his on money or others its effect remains the same. Thus it is a crime that is punishable.
kudkhan 2 years ago
Israr Ahmed is quoting an EXCEPTION. As an EXCEPTION, to save your life, you can also eat pork or drink alcohol. That does not mean Islam allows pork or alcohol. How can someone who knows so much make such an argument??
umaralfarooq 2 years ago
@thesetup85
Yay hi to mayra point hay.
Jab tak aap chup ter, tanhai main koi bhi jaram ker rahay hain, bara say bara bhi, jis ka kisi ko pata nahi chalta. Even kisi ka katal bhi kertay hain or kisi ko pata nahi chal raha. aap kuch bhi karo Hakoomat kia ker sakti hay, nothing. Laykin jub aap ka juram samnay aa jata hay, to chahay chota bhi ho, us ko us ki sangini kay hisab say to sariat main hay saza milay gi.
Aap apnay gher main chup ker kuch bhi kertay phiro; jub tak kay mukhbari na ho.
PinkyFromPK 2 years ago
A Question For Ghamdi Sb.:
Koi apnay paysoon say sharab pi raha hay; who kisi ka haq to nahi mar rah.
Phir us ko Hakoomat nay koray kiyoon maray ??? Kiyoon? Kiyoon? Kiyoon?
PinkyFromPK 2 years ago
@PinkyFromPK
If he is drinking out in the open, then he is bringing bad influence on the society and hence he should be lashed. But if he is drinking inside his home, then he can do whatever he wants and no govt can punish him.
thesetup85 2 years ago
Ghamdi Sb. nay bilkul sahi kaha "jis cheez ka taluq oor logon say hay us ko zaroor nafiz kia jaay ga, or jis cheez ka taluq sirf maray say hay ISLAMI hakomat us ko nafiz nahi ker sakti".
To Ghamdi Bahi ager koi apnay gher main nanga ghomta hay, to woh us ka zati(personal) masla hay. Lakin jab who sarak(road) per BAY-PARDA aata hay to ddosray logon ko parayshani/taklleef/ or dosray logon kay liay gunah ki waja or parayshani ki waja banti hay. baray/ bachay BAY-PARDA ko daykhan gay & get hurt.
PinkyFromPK 2 years ago
many non muslims are getting confused here. non muslims don't have to pay jakaat that is why Khilafat take tax from them.
kashamk4 2 years ago
GEO Dr. Israr.
kashifsiddhu 2 years ago
wah so a hindu can't really own land unlike muslims in shariah republic... how fair and tolereant religion you guys have.. i am impressed
dadarocks 2 years ago
They never say this. Listen to them again.
They talked about KHIRAAJ (tax) and that is of a new Muslim.
oksialkot 2 years ago
Saying shahada is one of the three condition for avoiding death and that's what is froced conversion.. heck muhd himself said people of meccah convert or leave meccah or die .. sounds like forced conversion to anyone who is not drunk on islamic grandeur
dadarocks 2 years ago
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many non muslims are getting confused here. non muslims don't have to pay jakaat that is why Khilafat take tax from them.
kashamk4 2 years ago
so much for fairness non muslims were taxed in addition to jakaat.. bhai wah how fair
dadarocks 2 years ago
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ghamdi is son of pervez mushaaf.KUTA MUNAFIQ
sidrabaji 2 years ago
Dr. israr is always right...........luv U sir.
faisaldinaa 2 years ago
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look at dr israr face . he looks like a devil. a fitna in islam
gabrujawan64 2 years ago
Atleast find out who this Javed Ghamidi is to start with....the guy who believes and preaches that Esa (as) will not return as promised by Allah.....there will be many Dajjals like him before the arrival of Esa (as) who will deny that Esa (as) will not return...he is a fitnah for us all and he deserves a smelly shoe chain around his neck and a nice donkey ride home...
x24mmx 2 years ago
@x24mmx
Anybody who agrees with your interpretation is a fitna. Beautiful. Will convince many with this attitude.
25november2007 2 years ago
if gamdi is true then what is the diff b/w a secular nation and an islamic state.????????????? any body clear me.
waqasayub22 2 years ago
We pray for more educated scholars like Javaid Ahmad Ghmidi.We need these kind of scholars these days very much.Our land no doubt is very furtile for narrow minded Mullas like Israr sahib but we have to change the attitude of our illiterate nation, because they have already suffered too much. Barelvi,Sunni,Shias,Deobandis ,bala ,bala,bala are all the result of illiteracy of our people and are idiots.I have not heard anybody like Ghamidi before.Excellent.
Muneeb58 2 years ago
you don't even know how to respect your elders ... please mind your language and don't use this kind of language
aurhit 2 years ago 19
do any one know about "GAZWA E HIND"
If not then search gazwa e hind in youtube.
ohwahwah 2 years ago
I respect both of them very very much but in many ways Gamidi has a point..which i think is quite valid..(this is what i think)...i dont have much knoweldge ..but this is my understanding
munazza1998 2 years ago
do any one know about "GAZWA E HIND"
If not then search gazwa e hind in youtube.
ohwahwah 2 years ago
GHAAMDI IS PROPAGATING SECULAR (modern) ISLAM....
tajsalman 2 years ago
abay ulo kay pathay haram zaday kisis per ilzam mat laga pahlay apnay ap ko dekh dr. idrar scholer hai woh tughsay zayada better deen janata hai
muhammads123 2 years ago
Dr. Israr ko ZABAR DASTI ka bara shoque hy. Zabar dasti ye kiya jasakta hy Zabar dasti wo kiya jasakta hy. In se zara ye poochen kiya apne ghar me b ye itni hi zabar dasti krte hen??? Wese ye zabar dasti krne ke certificate kis se liya hy unhon ne? Me b lena chahta hon. shayad islami hukoomat me mujhe b koi qazi wagera ka uhda mil jaye???
ranathegreat08 2 years ago
Who is this person , big scron on his face, It looks he spent life hating everything..Retard offers tax exemption on faith.Dufeer thats economic terrorism......The land under ur feet (pakistthan) is a Hindu land.....
rahul1116 2 years ago
@rahul1116...
and before it was a Hindu Land it was Aryan land...WTF right? History is a bitch aint it...
it ceased to be a hindu land 62 years ago...please get over it and leave us be...
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Let god decide whose land it is,You know the answer if u have concious in you.But u couldnt help it...How could u deny ur existance.You need to justify urself,So take lame execuses.Plzz tel me how does it make ur land?,Aryan theory is a conspiracy and euro centered..German propaganda.From ur view a german has more right over ur home than u .
rahul1116 2 years ago
blah blah blah...typical right wing RSS Bull SHIT!!!!!!!! dont you ever get tired of eating VHP/BJP/RSS SHIT packaged as Halwa?
It's not german propoganda. Its archeological fact. but i dont think thet taught you that in the 2 room 1 computer university that you went too. Why dont you give your land back to the Aryans first and then I'll do the same. by the way, you ignorant ass doesnt even know Aryans werent Germans. Youve seen too many WW2 movies.
anyway, thats a free lesson for you RSS idiot
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Y dont u engage in dialogue , And decide for urself.But lets be fare and tak in a non retarded and with out slangs of any kind.Plzz let me know if you are intrested.
rahul1116 2 years ago
I dont debate RSS/VHP retards. I only insult them and make fun of their total lack of intellect.
Loser! Stop trolling on Islamic issues and go do some work on that 2 bit shit job you have!
3SQNDan 2 years ago
I only know the names of RSS and VHP.I am not aware of the ideology as u are.I am happy that you consider elite class.That indeed has to be earned in life.I hope you have earned that in your life.And i congragulate you.Regarding me I am doing masters in molecular biology,At stanford,USA.I do not even save from that 2bit , but love my campus job.
rahul1116 2 years ago
my Son. Ive earned more than you probably every will.
regarding your lack of knowledge of VHP and RSS, if you are US born and bred, which I dont think you are from your sentence then being an Indian you need to educate yourself on what grows and flourishes in your own house. Not knowing that and then making fun of the problems at your neighbours just makes you look like an asshole.
and the mind Micro sized. Dwell on that.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Brother , u guessed it right, I am from india,It has been 3 , years since in usa.Probably i know my country better over you.I know But if it makes you feel self righteous mocking RSS and VHP go ahead.Thats, a skill u have mastered from generations.Its no fun to me to see a little kid loosing its eye to an suicide bomber. You may be right ,i am a student for life.Good for you if u earned enough for life.I belive you only have to get rich once.Earning doesnt intrest me as much as learning does.
rahul1116 2 years ago
so you do know what the VHP and the RSS stand for. fucking liar you turned out to be Sir. A Fucking 3rd rate Liar who cannot even state the truth behind the anonymity of the internet. For Shame. You feel sorry for the child? As you should. but feel sorry for the men and women butchered by the Hindu Extremists snakes that breed and dwell in within your own house.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
This is the difference between Indian's and Pakistanis. We know our shit stinks whereas you pretend it's bloody halwa and eat it.
if I was you, id ask standford for my money back because being there clearly hasnt done anything to expand your mind. What a waste.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Boy its so easy to push your buttons.Haahahah... i wish they would pay back.I would enroll in other course too.But this is not pakistan......do they ask money back there?...U are soo hilarious.
"WAT a waste of life"....u ARE.Its my personal opinion, nee not be genral truth.Plzz keep mailing me "The more u express ur self, The more fun u are!!!
rahul1116 2 years ago
I know the fault is mine.
should know better than to throw stones in excrement.
enjoy your life as a Bigot and a looser with your fake GF. I didnt know blow up dolls could read.
please resume the blow jobs you give to your VHP and RSS chaddi force masters.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
I should appreciate u, Truly u are a MOMEN,U represent truly mohammad as ur mentor.Surely there is "no god but god".......Youa are eflection of quran.
Ill surely give one on ur name....u know wat?.......Thankx for adding spice.
rahul1116 2 years ago
I thought you had all the spice you needed with The Chaddi force back ground and the fake GF that is actually a blow up doll...
again, it is truly shocking just how ignorant are you...as I said, the fault is mine for throwing stones in Tatti. Yes, Tatti. Now go and explain that to your fake GF you prick.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
The only know i donot know.The process of study starts with ignorance proceeds to observation and ends in reason. On the other hand i am happy to know u,such an awfull intellectual who runs on parameters set by us(ignorants in ur bubble world),Recive our values and live like a programed robots,Retarded human.....Peace be on you,U really need it. Start discovering yourself. Truly u are a "mohammedan"
rahul1116 2 years ago
what a looser and social retard you are. Branding an entire community. I believe your ignorance has not yet proceeded to even observation levels...
a true bigot and a fucking looser.
Here's one for your...social retardation proceeds to extreme emotional ineptness and ends in people talking about non existant Girl Friends that are in fact mail ordered blow up dolls for Desi freaks like you. Chootiya.
and IM supposed to be the programmed Robots.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Y would i brand an entire community to be retards,Where did u find so in my talk.Infact i praised u as a "mohemeddan" R u not,Do u consider ur self a non mohammadan?,A munafiq, or kafir? .No existant? daaaaaaaa........hihiihi...i can smell smoke.
If it makes u happy let me tell u U r "SOCIALLY UNRETARED" ,"Balanced emotionally".Go have your lamb brain kid.Sleep soon ,else zionists will come.HIhihihiihi....U are dissopinting me ,comon make some serious tak ,U are hilarious when u are urself.
rahul1116 2 years ago
This from a man who has stated the following:
1. He does not know what is the VHP and the RSS but is actually from India and later on admitted to knowing what they were.
2. Considers the Genocide and lyncings of the the above two groups to still be 'within limits'. Obvious absence of any Moral Compass.
3. Constantly talks about a non existant GF that is actually a blow up doll with orfices to receive his shrivled manhood.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Plzz let me know what is really RSS, and VHP.I only know their names and abrevations.Not much beyond it.One is free to think not to act .
Moral compass,Do u have one ?.Comon u and morals do go togather.
I am not u ,Living ur life, JInns at night,Hell of fire,Skins given again after frying.Too much for today,U bored me,Ill talk to u when i need entertainment.
rahul1116 2 years ago
yeah Right. Sure you dont know what they are. you were living on Mars the past decade.
I can see that you are still the same little liar that you were at the start :) intellectual prostitutes like you need to do the following ASAP:
Read a fucking book! (or two)
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Darling its not pakistan,We are 1.2 billon. Its a subcontinent itself.
Book written by retards like you,Conspiracy theorist, warmongers,A prostitue by definition is a person whos will and acts are oppsite.For ex you are machulys bitch.
rahul1116 2 years ago
'We are 1.2 Billion people' so WTF does that have to do with anything? WTF does that have to do with you lying all the bloody time Son?
I did NOT specify which books to read. I just said ANY book would be good for an idiot like you. One step at a time son. Plus your English could use some work as well. Or is that the way your supposed to be at the KWIK-E mart? :)
you Son, are an 'intellectual' prostitute. What you profess is reason but have proven to be a Liar. Opposite. So eat that bitch.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
so you see:
you started with (feigned) ignorance
went to observation
and then ended up with total and utter social retardation rather than reason.
stones in poo! stones in poo!
3SQNDan 2 years ago
what the hell son of cow doing here. go drink you mother piss.
ohwahwah 2 years ago
Its an attribute of self righteous, To be contempt of his past.You make me tickle..I clearly could see identity crisis in you .If i am not wrong are u anti semitist,Anti democratic,Anti feminist,Racist,Anti hindu,Anti bhuddist,Anti christian,Anti judaic...Micro sized haahha..u clearly have no idea of a bramhan.Lets hope you r right. No wonder my jewish gal frnd adresses your community as "RETARDS".I really like u ...ur funny
rahul1116 2 years ago
now there you go again. Whats with the unending lying? What part of my past have I condemned? on second thought dont answer that. You pretending not to know what RSS and VHP were established you as a liar and thus eliminated credibility.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
and pray tell what does being a Brahmin or Khashtariya or a Dalit have to do with the size of one's brain. So you are that type huh? Maybe here's something else you dont know, Dr. Ambedkar was a dalit and he gave you your constitution so did he have a small brain?
what a prick.
I cant be anti Semitic as Im Muslim. That makes me a semite you ignorant chooteay.
Pity you feel the need to hide behind your Jewish girlfriend. If she brand an entire faith as retards, she's not much brighter than you.
3SQNDan 2 years ago
Daaaaa,she is masters in emotional pscychology from berkly,Comon faith is somethig is devoid of reason, Thats where it differs from beleif.That y its called beleif.She doesnt brand the ideology but in genral the community,I was reading ur mails to her.We keep laughing,U are nice entertainer.I have deepest respect for ambedkar.He indeed was a spirited soul.See its hard for you to understand division of labour and dignity of labour.I belive" all humans are born free and unique".
rahul1116 2 years ago
oh and by the way...I believe your 'GF'..if she isnt a blow up doll with a blow hole where a social retard like you gets to put his 3rd class shrivelled dick....got her degree studying stephen R covey books. Fuck you, fuck her more for having bad taste than anything else.
Please by all means laugh and revel in your own pathetic mediocrity. and revel in the residue of your own excrement.
ab ja...ja aur apni maan kee chut main mera lun day day...
Ill go and burn some fucking cash
3SQNDan 2 years ago
"ill go and bun some fuking cash"....hihihihihhiii.Typical prouct of mechualy,Yeah u proved a muslim charachter.....On the othe hand it brings little spice in us also.ILL surely show this message to her .plzz keep mailing me.After u burn some cash....Make sure u return home safe,May be as suicide bomber at ur steps to have breakfast in heaven.
rahul1116 2 years ago
Hi hihhi.How old are you "8"....First tell me about RSS and VHP, Their ideoligies,Their execution,Their impact.
Donot worry about them,ill tell u a secret of indian,We know how to clip the wings and tails if some so called extremists crosses a line.Dont worry we would be in a situation of targeting civilians through F16,Puttng our army on auction to us for pretty dollars.Forgot u r rich than i could ever be.Thanks dude u r good entertainer to my gf.
rahul1116 2 years ago
and pray tell what further 'LINE' do your VHP RSS snakes have to cross? isnt butchering 3000 innocent civilians enough?
what lying inanity filles bull shit sandwitches your fine establishment server..
but I forgot...you CLAIMED to NOT EVEN KNOW what that VHP and RSS were so you are a self proven Liar. Hence nothing you say can be taken at any value anymore. Utter garbage...
3SQNDan 2 years ago
This discus should be held in a Islamic Country not in Pakistan. Is Pakistan a Muslim country?
watch President Zardari's videos of recent scandals. drinking wine. living in American Hotels with Pakistanis' Money 2800000 rupees for each person(even his son was with him)
Calling Call girls in their Hotels....what is this? Is all world Blind? no they are not.. When something happen in Denmark with the name of Mohammad(PBUH) they come to presecution.. but how strong is their own Emaan???
hewaan 2 years ago
wow, I'm impressed. which channel is this ?
mehbooburrehman 2 years ago
All i wanted to know whether Khulfa e Rashidun ever enforced hijab as a govt policy..
nilo723 2 years ago
shia pe lanat
bilalpafl 2 years ago
teri maan pay lanat...kutta fitna parast
3SQNDan 2 years ago
both great scholars
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Imam Zain ul Abideen Ki dua thi kay
Ya ALLAH tu Zalim ko Zalim se lara day takay Mazloum ki Fataah hou jaaye.... :)
samajhnay walay kay liye ishara hi kaafi hai
jimmy0537 2 years ago
Come on, the government cannot FORCE a person if he/she is not fasting.....Ghamdi is right. If that's the case then I should have the right to force the government to fast....
mechanicalengineer3 2 years ago
nahi anulmunkir ko rok dena hi maroof hey jab munkar nahi ho ga to baqi maroof hi reh jaega aur kya bachey ga
apart786 2 years ago
Javed Ahmed Ghamidi is logical thinker. He is great great scholar.
wandp7782 2 years ago
This Girl is really not needed there....just interrupting foolishly....
arshadzero 2 years ago 4
I 1000% agree with you
silverwaqas 2 years ago
Beautiful discussion.
nomaneagle 2 years ago
Dr.Israr is a true scholar and Ghamidi is Munkireen-e-Hadees like Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz .
razaryk 2 years ago
Dr.Israr is a true scholar and Ghamidi is Munkireen-e-Hadees like Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz .
razaryk 2 years ago
brother such an accusation on any muslims is bad. either give people proofs and references which validate your accusation otherwise a muslim should no accuse another muslim of any wrong doing without proof
salam
imransuhail82 2 years ago
The Point is not who Won but
They With such scholarly manner :) discussing what is the Better method for the Ummah
Your mind opens up .. and you realize so many things and learn when you listen to them
better then watching those politicians fight over
sunisastar 2 years ago
i feel like watching WWF. but with Daleel and logic. my God these people are good. Just see how much you learn from learned discussions. And people dont take sides, both are great scholars of our time and very very respectable for us.
manidar1977 2 years ago 5
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undoubdtedly!
wamsluv 1 year ago
Ihave you ever seen a scholar (Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani) ? If you litsen his specches .. believe me you will forget GHAMIDI ... ISRAR to kisi khatay may ata hi nahi hai ... yanabi d0 t c 0m pay un ki speech aik dafa sun kay dekhein ... believe me you will be amazed ... you bet!!!
TradeMiracle 2 years ago
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sam71berlin 2 years ago
trade miracle ..
picking sides takes us no where
every one has their limit of understanding and study
and listening to all gives us, a better picture of Islam that is why i like the Salafi points
sunisastar 2 years ago
i agree brother allama syed jilani sahib is a great scholar of our times these two are no where near his status and knowledge on Islam
7778666 2 years ago
it seems that for Dr israr's islam is just preaching killing and he has not talked other than punishment but reality is entirely different long live ghamdi sahob
aampakistani 2 years ago
:D Dr. Israr ..., beside nice debate tho...
uatk 2 years ago
Dr. Israr is the best scholar, the world love. Muslim world love. But Ghamdi is also a scholar. This is a good debait.
AFilmDirector 2 years ago
ghamdi is a clear winner. welldone sir
kuta739 2 years ago
Jazakallah , Dr.israr talks more with daleel of quran and hadiths and mashallah is very knowledgable and has produced very educated people in his quran academy,one of them is shuja uddin. dr zakir naik choose him for peace tv. dr.israr challenge for secular muslims. he is a follower of maududi and also like allama iqbal. i think one must study a person before making comments