"It was not an upbeat children's film." Well, in what book is that rule written, "Every children's film must be upbeat"? Some kids like the scary, unpleasant stuff. I know I did. "Return to Oz" may not be the greatest kids' film of all time, but it holds a soft spot in my heart.
The "rip off" robot was actually in Frank L. Baum's book long before George Lucas ripped off the John Carter of Mars books for Star Wars. So FAIL Baldy and Fat Guy.
St. Elmo's Fire was not a bad movie. Siskel and Ebert can say and think what they want, but they are nothing but opinionated blowhards who do not speak for all of us. Besides, the box office receipts tell a different story. As far as I'm concerned, the best way to find out what movies people want to see is to look at the numbers.
@smalltownman73 I hear you, but do you honestly want another Transformers movie? The first one was good, but the numbers are having the wrong say in that case. Just saying, yes, the numbers are good, but not always right, just like these two aren't always right.
I was so surprised when they said that Return To Oz was on their worst film list. It is a BRILLIANT film, and I honestly can't think why they didn't like it. I mean its no good comparing it to the original film because it wasn't meant to be like the Judy Garland film, so what the hell are they complaining about?!
Great to see S & E in their prime. Both were well suited to TV and both had this great ability to simply sound like they were having a relaxed conversation about something they really cared about.
What??? What???? Pee Wee's Big Adventure is a classic!!! I have it on DVD and my kids and I watch it as regularly as we watch any Disney/Pixar movie!! I'll admit, that movie COULD have been a disaster, it has all the makings (low budget, unlikely story, over-the-top characters) but, they freakin' pull it off!!! It's hilarious and fun as hell to watch!!
Siskel are you effin' kidding me? Pee Wee's Big Adventure one of the WORST? That's one of my all-time favorite films. You obviously just did not get it. Now look at you, all dead and stuff. Pffft.
I love siskel and ebert, but I hate how these guys say things like "this movie stole 2 hours of my life!". getting to watch movies for a living is a great job, even if you have to watch bad ones sometimes. I mean, isn't it better than digging ditches? stop complaining!
@NotNamedJones Siskel often talked about how being a film critic is the easiest job in the world. I think the joke about certain movies stealing time from his life is meant simply to convey the experience of anyone sitting through trash cinema.
8:03 - :14 "And it got me very angry. First of all, I don't think drunk-driving jokes are funny at 'all,' and you see they're 'laughing' in the background and congradulating him in some way and 'not' taking him 'seriously,' that's-that's really 'rotten."
Boy Siskel, you were right, Return to Oz is still a piece of shit!! Remember seeing that as a child where the nurse changes her head, going WTF this have to do with OZ!!
I love these guys alot, I really do, but this year...WERE THEY HIGH?!? I mean, Pee Wee's Big Adventure? Godzilla 1985? St. Elmo Fire? Return to Oz?? What the hell those movies aren't bad!
@zbarneyz Gee, I didnt know I as allowed to have FUN while watching a movie. Not every movie has to be Citizen Kane. I'm guessing you some old british dude who hates to have fun, or just an idiot...which one is it?
@TheSonomaDude Fun!? What's fucking fun with Return To Oz? What's fun in watching shitty movies at all? Well, Pee Wee's Big Adventure could be called fun if you're high but other than that i dont really get your point.... And just mentioning Citizen Kane in that context is a disgrace...I bet my ass you havent even seen Citizen Kane,
@zbarneyz Chill, bro. No need to toss f-bombs. Pee Wee's Big Adventure is a fun, hilarios movie made by a young Tim Burton, who did a good job with his first feature legnth movie. Mainly, Return to Oz, Godzilla 1985, and Pee Wee are all big peices of nostalgia. I love them all.
And yes, I've seen Citizen Kane. Orsen Wells's best film. You just lost your ass.
@zbarneyz I watched them as a kid, THATS NOSTALGIA. I really dont get what your talkin about, bro! Who cares if they were already 10 years old, I still watched them as a kid!
@Dyli Apparently, Gene Siskel was only familiar with "The Wizard of Oz"; he obviously had not heard of or read the original Oz stories. He must have thought Tik Tok was a character made exclusively for the movie.
Siskel screwed up with this one. Maybe Pee Wee wasn't a big hit with the critics when it was first released? I wasn't born yet when it was released, but I remember enjoying it as a young kid on VHS. Hell, I remember Pee Wee, Beetlejuice, and Scissorhands were popular and well liked in the 90s.
return to oz...yeah total garbage. didnt even like it as a kid/st. elmos fire....not too much better, but demi moore was hot with long hair/pee wees big adventure, one of the greatest films of all time.
The show wasn't cancelled, rodimus. Ebert had tumors removed and lost the ability to speak and Siskel died of a brain tumor, so...technically, they quit. Ebert wrote about having to leave bc of the cancer surgery and not being cancelled. You don't have your revenge. And yes, these movies do suck. If it weren't for the nostalgia most of you feel for these movies, the sentimentality factor, and you watched these movies today, there's a big chance you would see them for what they are. Garbage.
@lbm1985 It was a lot better than you'd expect. It was incredibly dark compared to the original, but it was incredibly well made with some of the coolest looking characters and sets I've ever seen in a movie. And it's not like they were the first ones to make a sequel to the Wizard of Oz. L. Frank Baum himself- who wrote the original Wizard of Oz book- put out a plethora of sequels to it (Return to Oz was based on the 2nd and 3rd), and another author even did several more after his death.
Return to Oz was a great movie, it freaked me out. The movies I remember most from my childhood are those with relatively dark themes, The Dark Crystal, The Neverending Story (only because of the scene where the horse dies in the swamp) and Return to Oz. Hollywood will never make kiddie films like this again, the closest thing that I have seen recently to affect me as much is Pans Labyrinth because it touches on the cornerstones of childlike terror I experienced in my youth due to these films
@eveningtsar You saw that clip and your still wondering? The dialog is stiff, and the characters pause for too long before a response. Anyone with half a brain knows that's downright idiotic. As it is, most of the movie is centered around the big Lizard walking through the city, none of the human characters have an arch of their own. That's why the movie is on the worst films of the year list.
@eveningtsar You do realize my name is GOJI 2099, right? I've seen the movie, a long with every other film in the Godzilla Franchise a dozen times. I met my girlfriend at a Godzilla convention. Don't pull that "You don't get it" shit on me.
Watch Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster or Godzilla King of the Monsters, or eGodzilla Final Wars. They work much better as movies BECAUSE they give you hilarious giant monster chaos with a human story that does at least the bare minimum. This can't even do that
Oh jesus...these two...St. Elmos Fire is not meant to be send a frickin' message! Aside from most of the character being "priviledged" and upper class, I would say that a fair amount of people could relate to it. Many young people, myself included, found myself saying, "Okay. College is over. But I still love to party and so do my friends. I am expected to find some boring desk job and facing the REAL WORLD?!?" That transition isn't easy nor is it welcomed.
Most often, the films that these two found to be the "worst," I actually enjoy on some level. C'mon, "St. Elmos Fire" !!! Is it cheesy, cliche and melodramatic? YES! But it is charming and it is pure 80's indulgence with some of my favorite actors of that time. I need to see what these two have to say about my favorite John Hughes films! There isn't a Hughes film that I don't ADORE.
@arthuronfacebook if you cant understand that then you a idiot.seriously what part of my comment cant your lobotomised brain comprehend?I'll try and explain it to you as i would a child,though to be 100% honest i dont think the original comment could be simplified any more.I (as in me)Liked wizard of oz 2(the film),I liked the witch with the many heads(character i liked) and tik-tok(again,a character i liked) i think he was called.Wait i cant do it,the comment cant be made any simpler
@ gradepoint: "While meant as being humerous, it's a little eerie and foreboding the way the two talk hypothetically about Gene dying in this segment."
Not really, since everybody eventually dies. This was filmed 25 years ago.
i cant stand these 2 they r just 2 stiff about things i dont think that any1 should get paid 2 criticize another persons hard work i myselfe criticize some films but its just my own opinion but they act as if there opinions mean everything and that every1 who likes it and the filmakers r just stupid and i cant stand that sry but i just had 2 throw that out there
St Elmo's Fire is a great movie, a classic. Siskel and Ebert were crazy to call it a bad movie. It was one of those signature 80's classics like Breakfast Club and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Pee Wee Big Adventure was really good too and he is an 80's icon as well. Perfect was really bad though so I agree on that one.
Poor Return to Oz, I really admire this film and it is still one of my favourites. You just have to separate it from the film before it to really enjoy it.
@Starmongoose1991 True. I usually don't like dark films because the darkness becomes bigger than the plot, but this film was good, and was a fairly true adaptation of the books. Of course, Dorothy doesn't get shock therapy in the books.
I loved Return to Oz and Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Honestly, I think because movies like this were a little too new for them to understand. There was nothing to really base it on at the time. But I really disagree with them both.
@nwcolumcoll Return To Oz is actually pretty trippy. I dont know what kind of a childrens film it is but it's certainly a pretty good one to watch high as a kite. I think these guys just took that one out of cotext. And there was really no need to compare it to the Wizard Of Oz either,.. just take it on it's own !
@TrueAgendaSetter Crittics didn't necesarily like Hughes films,.. but audiences did. In fact, I dont think that any film of his was ever haild by a critic
@Skulldini Wrong! Ebert himself ranked "Planes, Trains & Automobiles" as one of his top 10 of 1987 - and later added it to his Great Movies list. Many of his films were critically acclaimed. It was usually the ones directed by others based on his screenplays that flopped with critics.
@Skulldini Yeah , Hughes got great reviews from critics. See his rottentomatoes page: Planes, Trains, & Automobiles, Sweet Sixteen, Pretty in Pink, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and The Breakfast Club got rave receptions. They all got 80% positive reviews or better.
@Quadzilla99 Well I do seem to recall Breakfast Club, Pretty In Pink and Ferris Beuller getting some bad comment from SOME major reviewers,.. I dont remember just who though ? There were other big critics besides these two guys ( like Garry Franklin, Leonard Maltin, Gene Schallit and Rex Reed ), so it could've been anyone.
@Skulldini You might be right. Sometimes when it comes to older movies rotten tomatoes has a lot of more recent reviews which sometimes means that a movie that gets panned upon release will have a better rating than you would think it does because newer reviewers look at it differently. So they may not have had as awesome a rating when they were released as they do now. I do know that Roger Ebert has always been a big fan of John Hughes.
Godzilla 1985 is really sort of a cult classic. It's pale in comparison to its original version, but it is, as critic Joel Siegal put it "hysterical fun." for the right fans. If you're not already a Godzilla fan, however, there's really no reason to see it.
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These two guys (like MOST film critics) were overrated, and knew nothing about movies. MOST people don't "reject" seeing a film based on the critics' opinions...the masses reject films that don't interest them, simply put, for WHATEVER reason, REGARDLESS if a film is filled with credible and passionately historic information (Amistad) or utter crap (Gigli)....Pee Wee's movie was classic and a good film, somewhat ahead of its time, but Siskel and/or Ebert's assertion mimick their general crap
At the time this was written the Oz books had not been in print for considerable time and most film critics did not know anything about Oz beyond the 1939 MGM movie... So it's understandable how many reveiwers got bad impressions, though there were numerous rebutles at the time.
"Dear Siskel: Star Wars stole the robot (Tik-Tok) from Oz, not vice-versa. Idiot. And Return To Oz has been proven to be a classic."
Sorry pal, but you're too late. Siskel's dead, but not Ebert & Roeper. Speaking of them, their show got cancelled so you've finally got your revenge and ours.
This is madness. I thought 'Return to Oz' was a terrific and really inspired version of the books. Is Ebert's review based solely on comparison to the original?
"It was not an upbeat children's film." Well, in what book is that rule written, "Every children's film must be upbeat"? Some kids like the scary, unpleasant stuff. I know I did. "Return to Oz" may not be the greatest kids' film of all time, but it holds a soft spot in my heart.
gspendlove 2 weeks ago
8:02 - :15 Smart man.
027220 3 weeks ago
Dorothy getting shock treatment ?? Hmmmm, .. . sounds interesting to me!
Skulldini 3 weeks ago
Always loved S&E, but even I have to disagree w/most of their choices for worst films of 85...would say that Perfect was def one of them, though!
WhatsAYak 1 month ago
The "rip off" robot was actually in Frank L. Baum's book long before George Lucas ripped off the John Carter of Mars books for Star Wars. So FAIL Baldy and Fat Guy.
Ramubay 2 months ago
@Ramubay No shit! Why do people always accuse a flick of "riping off Star Wars" everytime they ever see a damn robot anyway ?!
Skulldini 3 weeks ago
Return to Oz is awesome too! What wrong with you two?!?!
NYG4LIFE123 3 months ago
Oh fuck you! Pee-Wee's Big Adventure is amazing!
NYG4LIFE123 3 months ago
St. Elmo's Fire was not a bad movie. Siskel and Ebert can say and think what they want, but they are nothing but opinionated blowhards who do not speak for all of us. Besides, the box office receipts tell a different story. As far as I'm concerned, the best way to find out what movies people want to see is to look at the numbers.
smalltownman73 4 months ago
@smalltownman73 I hear you, but do you honestly want another Transformers movie? The first one was good, but the numbers are having the wrong say in that case. Just saying, yes, the numbers are good, but not always right, just like these two aren't always right.
GreywolfReviews 4 months ago
@smalltownman73 Haven't you listened to what Gene said 'bout that scene? I have and don't blame him.
027220 3 weeks ago
I was so surprised when they said that Return To Oz was on their worst film list. It is a BRILLIANT film, and I honestly can't think why they didn't like it. I mean its no good comparing it to the original film because it wasn't meant to be like the Judy Garland film, so what the hell are they complaining about?!
radiofiendify 5 months ago
I got syphilis form Ebert in 1965
UglyoldFranny 5 months ago
he said the original 1956 film, but godzilla was made in 1954.
peacocksandwhich 5 months ago
@peacocksandwhich Is that the original, or the Americanized version with Raymond Burr?
TomMSTie1138 5 months ago
@peacocksandwhich My understanding is that it was released first in Japan in 54 and then made it's debute in the U.S.A. two years later in 56 .
Skulldini 3 weeks ago
'Pee-Wee's Big Adventure' is on this list...: The bastardly slime-balls!!!
tthomaselli2 5 months ago
Return to Oz plays out how the book plays out. The book is dark and so is the movie.
Chaoitcme 5 months ago
How much does Godzilla get paid? XD
shack8110 5 months ago
Siskel was such a SNOB
farneyblakeley 5 months ago
Its funny because for YEARS the opening of Siskel & Ebert showed Ebert working in his office with a "Godzilla 1985" One Sheet prominently displayed.
CH3Jason 5 months ago
RETURN TO OZ WAS KOOL.
TERRORKLOWNS 6 months ago
Great to see S & E in their prime. Both were well suited to TV and both had this great ability to simply sound like they were having a relaxed conversation about something they really cared about.
DaveM599 6 months ago
I liked Return to Oz.
CVargas 6 months ago
They were really good. I'd forgotten how good Gene was.
tdelamont 6 months ago
S&E were brilliant together. Thanks for uploading.
Lettermaniacs 6 months ago in playlist Siskel and Ebert
Aww I like Return to Oz.
johnyzero2000 6 months ago
did you tape the worst movies special every year? that's awesome man
jmactemin 7 months ago
Awwww... Peewee's Big Adventure was weird and surreal to me, but it was such a fun movie to watch as a kid.
Elenkeon 8 months ago
Not Peewee!!!
lekocafe 9 months ago
What??? What???? Pee Wee's Big Adventure is a classic!!! I have it on DVD and my kids and I watch it as regularly as we watch any Disney/Pixar movie!! I'll admit, that movie COULD have been a disaster, it has all the makings (low budget, unlikely story, over-the-top characters) but, they freakin' pull it off!!! It's hilarious and fun as hell to watch!!
steved8878 9 months ago 7
@steved8878 I completely agree.
sintra4 9 months ago
What's Perry Mason doing here? And why is he channeling Donald Pleasance?
brianc2008 9 months ago
Siskel are you effin' kidding me? Pee Wee's Big Adventure one of the WORST? That's one of my all-time favorite films. You obviously just did not get it. Now look at you, all dead and stuff. Pffft.
MckyMseNTarotCrds 10 months ago
sorry pee wee is funny
therugburnz 10 months ago
I love siskel and ebert, but I hate how these guys say things like "this movie stole 2 hours of my life!". getting to watch movies for a living is a great job, even if you have to watch bad ones sometimes. I mean, isn't it better than digging ditches? stop complaining!
NotNamedJones 10 months ago
@NotNamedJones Siskel often talked about how being a film critic is the easiest job in the world. I think the joke about certain movies stealing time from his life is meant simply to convey the experience of anyone sitting through trash cinema.
MrHeslopian 10 months ago
8:03 - :14 "And it got me very angry. First of all, I don't think drunk-driving jokes are funny at 'all,' and you see they're 'laughing' in the background and congradulating him in some way and 'not' taking him 'seriously,' that's-that's really 'rotten."
027220 10 months ago
How DARE Siskel name Pee-Wee's Big Adventure as one of the worst films of '85!
JarshMaul 10 months ago 4
@JarshMaul I agree!"Pee Wee's big Adventure"was probably one of the BEST movies of 1985! S&E missed the boat here.
mrbrianmccarthy 10 months ago 3
@JarshMaul I know! I am actually mad. PWBA is a classic. Now, maybe Big Top Pee Wee is another story, but Big Adventure is friggin' awesome.
MckyMseNTarotCrds 10 months ago
interesting to hear gene talk about his funeral
iago68 11 months ago
Boy Siskel, you were right, Return to Oz is still a piece of shit!! Remember seeing that as a child where the nurse changes her head, going WTF this have to do with OZ!!
jkoff76 11 months ago
I love these guys alot, I really do, but this year...WERE THEY HIGH?!? I mean, Pee Wee's Big Adventure? Godzilla 1985? St. Elmo Fire? Return to Oz?? What the hell those movies aren't bad!
TheSonomaDude 11 months ago
@TheSonomaDude Either you being sarcastic or you have the worst taste in movies that exists... Wich one is it?
zbarneyz 11 months ago
@zbarneyz Gee, I didnt know I as allowed to have FUN while watching a movie. Not every movie has to be Citizen Kane. I'm guessing you some old british dude who hates to have fun, or just an idiot...which one is it?
TheSonomaDude 10 months ago
@TheSonomaDude Fun!? What's fucking fun with Return To Oz? What's fun in watching shitty movies at all? Well, Pee Wee's Big Adventure could be called fun if you're high but other than that i dont really get your point.... And just mentioning Citizen Kane in that context is a disgrace...I bet my ass you havent even seen Citizen Kane,
zbarneyz 10 months ago
@zbarneyz Chill, bro. No need to toss f-bombs. Pee Wee's Big Adventure is a fun, hilarios movie made by a young Tim Burton, who did a good job with his first feature legnth movie. Mainly, Return to Oz, Godzilla 1985, and Pee Wee are all big peices of nostalgia. I love them all.
And yes, I've seen Citizen Kane. Orsen Wells's best film. You just lost your ass.
TheSonomaDude 10 months ago
@TheSonomaDude What? Nostalgia? You werent even born when these movies came out. Stop posing dude, seriously...You aint fooling anyone.
zbarneyz 10 months ago
@zbarneyz I watched them as a kid, THATS NOSTALGIA. I really dont get what your talkin about, bro! Who cares if they were already 10 years old, I still watched them as a kid!
TheSonomaDude 10 months ago
Hey--Pee Wee's Big Adventure was AWESOME! Just steer clear of the almost-unwatchable Big Top Pee Wee.
lurch321 1 year ago
Pee Wee's Big Adventure, people still watch that one, to this day
misconduckt 1 year ago
how'd they know Siskel would die first?
ATENakaATON 1 year ago
Ripoff robot from Star Wars?! That's Tik Tok, he was invented in the early 1900's in the kids books!
Dyli 1 year ago
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@Dyli Apparently, Gene Siskel was only familiar with "The Wizard of Oz"; he obviously had not heard of or read the original Oz stories. He must have thought Tik Tok was a character made exclusively for the movie.
kc86er 1 year ago
1:47 - I hope Roger remembered that.
levanyzzuf 1 year ago
Siskel screwed up with this one. Maybe Pee Wee wasn't a big hit with the critics when it was first released? I wasn't born yet when it was released, but I remember enjoying it as a young kid on VHS. Hell, I remember Pee Wee, Beetlejuice, and Scissorhands were popular and well liked in the 90s.
Chronolyse 1 year ago
return to oz...yeah total garbage. didnt even like it as a kid/st. elmos fire....not too much better, but demi moore was hot with long hair/pee wees big adventure, one of the greatest films of all time.
tonyss9 1 year ago
I really hate the brat pack, rich whiny selfish shitheads would have been a better name for them.
blakiecakes419 1 year ago
@blakiecakes419 Except for Judd Nelson. He was harsh.
CoolerKing37 1 year ago
I have only seen original japanese version of this Godzilla 1985 movie, and to me it was good. And far better than american version.
MarioSonic3 1 year ago
The show wasn't cancelled, rodimus. Ebert had tumors removed and lost the ability to speak and Siskel died of a brain tumor, so...technically, they quit. Ebert wrote about having to leave bc of the cancer surgery and not being cancelled. You don't have your revenge. And yes, these movies do suck. If it weren't for the nostalgia most of you feel for these movies, the sentimentality factor, and you watched these movies today, there's a big chance you would see them for what they are. Garbage.
sidmute00 1 year ago
Say what you want about Godzilla 1985, but give the original Japanese film, Gojira, the one without Raymond Burr, it's due.
Hallinilla9 1 year ago
They made a sequel to "Wizard of Oz"? FAIL
lbm1985 1 year ago
@lbm1985 yeah they did.
spiderman292007 1 year ago
@lbm1985 It was a lot better than you'd expect. It was incredibly dark compared to the original, but it was incredibly well made with some of the coolest looking characters and sets I've ever seen in a movie. And it's not like they were the first ones to make a sequel to the Wizard of Oz. L. Frank Baum himself- who wrote the original Wizard of Oz book- put out a plethora of sequels to it (Return to Oz was based on the 2nd and 3rd), and another author even did several more after his death.
crescentfreshbret 6 months ago
I hate St. Elmo's fire! I hate yuppies.
Sleepingsparklegirl 1 year ago
..a first i liked St. Elmo's fire.. than later hated it lol.. the brat pack were all so unlikeable a holes in the movie..
Raiders439 1 year ago
Return to Oz was a great movie, it freaked me out. The movies I remember most from my childhood are those with relatively dark themes, The Dark Crystal, The Neverending Story (only because of the scene where the horse dies in the swamp) and Return to Oz. Hollywood will never make kiddie films like this again, the closest thing that I have seen recently to affect me as much is Pans Labyrinth because it touches on the cornerstones of childlike terror I experienced in my youth due to these films
VonKlitzing 1 year ago
@VonKlitzing Would you compare Return to Oz to the great 1939 classic
supermario0527 1 year ago
Godzilla IS precious! You bastards!
QuatermassMan 1 year ago
@QuatermassMan But Gamera is a friend ofl children!
jazztrombone 1 year ago
@QuatermassMan But Gamera is a friend ol children!
jazztrombone 1 year ago
Big Adventure was genius. These fuckers are retards.
rufusbaron 1 year ago
I remember thinking Return to Oz was really good when I was younger. Haven't seen it since then, but still, I remember enjoying how dark it was.
Crudblud89 1 year ago
C'mon!!!...Perfect,st elmos fire and return to oz arent so bad!!!!...
romeonarcizo 1 year ago
GODZILLA 1985??? How could they?
eveningtsar 1 year ago
@eveningtsar You saw that clip and your still wondering? The dialog is stiff, and the characters pause for too long before a response. Anyone with half a brain knows that's downright idiotic. As it is, most of the movie is centered around the big Lizard walking through the city, none of the human characters have an arch of their own. That's why the movie is on the worst films of the year list.
goji2099 1 year ago
@goji2099
Dude, you've clearly got no sense of humour, and don't get monster movies.
For the record, I've not only seen the clip, I own the movie and have memorized every scene.
eveningtsar 1 year ago
@eveningtsar You do realize my name is GOJI 2099, right? I've seen the movie, a long with every other film in the Godzilla Franchise a dozen times. I met my girlfriend at a Godzilla convention. Don't pull that "You don't get it" shit on me.
Watch Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster or Godzilla King of the Monsters, or eGodzilla Final Wars. They work much better as movies BECAUSE they give you hilarious giant monster chaos with a human story that does at least the bare minimum. This can't even do that
goji2099 1 year ago
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another great review by Gene Sissy and Roger Retard
ScAgCoWbOy 1 year ago
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another great review by Gene Sissy and Roger Retard
ScAgCoWbOy 1 year ago
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ScAgCoWbOy 1 year ago
Return of OZ was TERRIBLE! PEE WEE SUCKS!
juliusyeung0330 1 year ago
I saw St Elmo's Fire in 1985. My God, what a pile of shit.
noisepuppet 1 year ago
Dude croaked. It happens.
Razersun 1 year ago
Not foreboding. Everyone dies.
CipherMind117 1 year ago
@CipherMind117 . i agree, wasn't like he dropped dead on the way home from the taping. he died 16 years later.
SparksDrinker 1 year ago
I did not like Return to Oz when I saw it as a kid, but I really like it now, and appreciate the darkness of it.
asherhawke 1 year ago 2
LOL Pee Wee's Big Adventure and St. Elmos Fire -- two of the worst movies of '85 !???
Gene could really be bat-sh*t sometimes LOL
JackMan11 1 year ago
I didn't like Return to Oz either.
Panorama1981 1 year ago
Oh jesus...these two...St. Elmos Fire is not meant to be send a frickin' message! Aside from most of the character being "priviledged" and upper class, I would say that a fair amount of people could relate to it. Many young people, myself included, found myself saying, "Okay. College is over. But I still love to party and so do my friends. I am expected to find some boring desk job and facing the REAL WORLD?!?" That transition isn't easy nor is it welcomed.
iamcasihart 1 year ago
Most often, the films that these two found to be the "worst," I actually enjoy on some level. C'mon, "St. Elmos Fire" !!! Is it cheesy, cliche and melodramatic? YES! But it is charming and it is pure 80's indulgence with some of my favorite actors of that time. I need to see what these two have to say about my favorite John Hughes films! There isn't a Hughes film that I don't ADORE.
iamcasihart 1 year ago
i liked wizard of oz 2,liked the witch with the many heads and Tik-Tok i think he was called
YoJimBoHugabaJoe 1 year ago
@YoJimBoHugabaJoe You also like not making sense.
arthuronfacebook 1 year ago
@arthuronfacebook if you cant understand that then you a idiot.seriously what part of my comment cant your lobotomised brain comprehend?I'll try and explain it to you as i would a child,though to be 100% honest i dont think the original comment could be simplified any more.I (as in me)Liked wizard of oz 2(the film),I liked the witch with the many heads(character i liked) and tik-tok(again,a character i liked) i think he was called.Wait i cant do it,the comment cant be made any simpler
YoJimBoHugabaJoe 1 year ago
@YoJimBoHugabaJoe Now try ranting with punctuation.
arthuronfacebook 1 year ago
The point of Return to Oz was that it was dark and bizarre! For once in a very long time, I'm disagreeing with their consensus.
Godzilla 1985 was funny bad, but nowhere near as side-splittingly hilarious as theold 60's/70's camp masterpieces. MOON DANCE!!!
DulBeat 1 year ago
Pee Wee's Big Adventure...maybe it's me, but I don't think Paul Reubens and Tim Burton were aiming at these guys when they made it.
CurlyPubis 1 year ago 2
It's like they're listing my favorite movies!
TheOnlyManWhoCan 1 year ago
@ gradepoint: "While meant as being humerous, it's a little eerie and foreboding the way the two talk hypothetically about Gene dying in this segment."
Not really, since everybody eventually dies. This was filmed 25 years ago.
Subzero288 1 year ago
st elmos fire sucked they are right. dont compare it to the breakfast club etc just because it had a lot of tha same actors
nilbog44 1 year ago
@nilbog44 Thank you. St. Elmo'sFire is so corny and lame.
rockyrack2 1 year ago
did they call tik tok a c3po rip-off, the wizard of oz books came out way before the star wars movies
TheCyberChicken 1 year ago
The first five seconds of this video is hilarious.
DNAngel2009 1 year ago
i cant stand these 2 they r just 2 stiff about things i dont think that any1 should get paid 2 criticize another persons hard work i myselfe criticize some films but its just my own opinion but they act as if there opinions mean everything and that every1 who likes it and the filmakers r just stupid and i cant stand that sry but i just had 2 throw that out there
Cropsy25 1 year ago
St Elmo's Fire is a great movie, a classic. Siskel and Ebert were crazy to call it a bad movie. It was one of those signature 80's classics like Breakfast Club and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Pee Wee Big Adventure was really good too and he is an 80's icon as well. Perfect was really bad though so I agree on that one.
AmericanEvita 1 year ago
WHY THE FUCK IS PEE WEE ON THERE
ConnorGunn 1 year ago
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ConnorGunn 1 year ago
Wow! Pee Wee's Big Adventure was and still is a classic. This really brings them both down.
chrisklecker 1 year ago
Pee wee's big adventure was great. Its a Burton classic
xukeith33 1 year ago 2
I think the video description should be removed. Gene talking about his inevitable death isn't "forboding" nor "hypothetical." Everybody dies.
JohnyJoe 1 year ago
They didn't really "get" Pee Wee's Big Adventure
roshi99 1 year ago
Poor Return to Oz, I really admire this film and it is still one of my favourites. You just have to separate it from the film before it to really enjoy it.
Starmongoose1991 1 year ago 13
@Starmongoose1991 True. I usually don't like dark films because the darkness becomes bigger than the plot, but this film was good, and was a fairly true adaptation of the books. Of course, Dorothy doesn't get shock therapy in the books.
Dyli 1 year ago
@Starmongoose1991 I imagine you probaly like ALOT of bad fucking movies lol
YnotBUildUrBOdY 10 months ago
You can't trust critics.
DeltaSceptile 1 year ago
@DeltaSceptile You can't trust fans either despite the fact that I want to.
-R78
Rodimus78 1 year ago
Return to Oz indeed.
Applemask 1 year ago
St. Elmo's Fire had its flaws, but here they go again being the morality police. Pluuhheeezzeee...
ADenny12 1 year ago
Pee wee's big adventure was good and funny as hell why is it horrible to them?
Hairman9252 1 year ago
I'd really like to see a DVD released with the best of Siskel & Ebert, which has to include the worst films of the year.
WhiteFlowerLei76 1 year ago 2
I loved Return to Oz and Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Honestly, I think because movies like this were a little too new for them to understand. There was nothing to really base it on at the time. But I really disagree with them both.
nwcolumcoll 1 year ago
@nwcolumcoll Return To Oz is actually pretty trippy. I dont know what kind of a childrens film it is but it's certainly a pretty good one to watch high as a kite. I think these guys just took that one out of cotext. And there was really no need to compare it to the Wizard Of Oz either,.. just take it on it's own !
Skulldini 1 year ago
me and my buddy got stoned to see pee wees big adventure and laughed so hard. Tim Burton's first major film.
scottmanduzy 1 year ago
what the hell pee wee big adventure, that movie is awesome. big top pee wee is garbage.
handsomebwonderful81 1 year ago 7
@handsomebwonderful81 I think the Tequila song plays in my head at least once a day. And I don't even drink the stuff.
blindthrall 1 year ago
I remember when everyone thought Pee-Wee was the end of civilization as we know it. THEY WERE WRONG.
whackawhack 1 year ago
wish i could hear it
AngryAgain 1 year ago
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Return to OZ = awesome
Godzilla 1985 = awesome
St. Elmo's Fire = Fail
Fever pitch = Fail
CinemaEpic 1 year ago
What! Pee Wee's Big Adventure was a great movie!
JackKlompus13 2 years ago 51
I'm more surprised that a John Hughes film got a "Worst Film" selection.
TrueAgendaSetter 2 years ago
@TrueAgendaSetter Crittics didn't necesarily like Hughes films,.. but audiences did. In fact, I dont think that any film of his was ever haild by a critic
Skulldini 1 year ago
@Skulldini Wrong! Ebert himself ranked "Planes, Trains & Automobiles" as one of his top 10 of 1987 - and later added it to his Great Movies list. Many of his films were critically acclaimed. It was usually the ones directed by others based on his screenplays that flopped with critics.
karaokefuntime 1 year ago
@Skulldini Yeah , Hughes got great reviews from critics. See his rottentomatoes page: Planes, Trains, & Automobiles, Sweet Sixteen, Pretty in Pink, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and The Breakfast Club got rave receptions. They all got 80% positive reviews or better.
Quadzilla99 1 year ago
@Quadzilla99 Well I do seem to recall Breakfast Club, Pretty In Pink and Ferris Beuller getting some bad comment from SOME major reviewers,.. I dont remember just who though ? There were other big critics besides these two guys ( like Garry Franklin, Leonard Maltin, Gene Schallit and Rex Reed ), so it could've been anyone.
Skulldini 1 year ago
@Quadzilla99 At the time I figuered these guys weren't teenagers so therefore the films just didn't resonate with them.
Skulldini 1 year ago
@Skulldini You might be right. Sometimes when it comes to older movies rotten tomatoes has a lot of more recent reviews which sometimes means that a movie that gets panned upon release will have a better rating than you would think it does because newer reviewers look at it differently. So they may not have had as awesome a rating when they were released as they do now. I do know that Roger Ebert has always been a big fan of John Hughes.
Quadzilla99 1 year ago
@JackKlompus13
I liked that one too. "Big Top Pee Wee" however, I thought was garbage. I will agree with them that "Return To Oz" was bad.
CJ076 1 year ago
@CJ076 your right about big top pee wee. that movie was garbage.
hutter2006 1 year ago
@CJ076
Right on, Big Top Pee Wee sucked!
JackKlompus13 1 year ago
@JackKlompus13 Thank you!
docthemetalfreak 1 year ago
@JackKlompus13 "Tell them Large Marge sent you"
DTFenn 1 year ago
@DTFenn
Yeah!
JackKlompus13 1 year ago
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@JackKlompus13 good for you and your father!!!!!!!!!!
tonyss9 1 year ago
@JackKlompus13 i just realized your name is jackklompus. take the pen
tonyss9 1 year ago 6
@tonyss9
Hahahahaha! Yeah, that's the one!
JackKlompus13 1 year ago
@JackKlompus13 Yeah, Siskel and Ebert hate EVERYTHING.
Dyli 1 year ago
Godzilla 1985 is really sort of a cult classic. It's pale in comparison to its original version, but it is, as critic Joel Siegal put it "hysterical fun." for the right fans. If you're not already a Godzilla fan, however, there's really no reason to see it.
TheUnknown837 2 years ago 3
I love Godzilla, but looking back, the acting is ridiculous and the amount of times Godzilla changes size is just stupid.
madamfoidart 2 years ago
St. Elmo's Fire was outstanding ... as was Pee Wee's.
mattbuc16 2 years ago
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These two guys (like MOST film critics) were overrated, and knew nothing about movies. MOST people don't "reject" seeing a film based on the critics' opinions...the masses reject films that don't interest them, simply put, for WHATEVER reason, REGARDLESS if a film is filled with credible and passionately historic information (Amistad) or utter crap (Gigli)....Pee Wee's movie was classic and a good film, somewhat ahead of its time, but Siskel and/or Ebert's assertion mimick their general crap
marcusrob02 2 years ago
Saw a double bill (remember those) of Return to Oz/Lady Hawk as a child. At least my parent's got me one movie's worth of enjoyment.
Return to Oz: Horrible Film---My one abiding memory is all those heads in the background and the body picks the crazy nurse!!!
jkoff76 2 years ago
Dear Siskel: Star Wars stole the robot (Tik-Tok) from Oz, not vice-versa. Idiot. And Return To Oz has been proven to be a classic.
amaxamon 2 years ago
Star Wars: 1975, Return to Oz:1985. how did Return to Oz proceed Star Wars when it came out 10 years later? what a moron.
Tremuoso 2 years ago
Tik Tok was created in 1907 by L Frank Baum
SW was 1977 not 1975
amaxamon 2 years ago
He didn't say that it was from "Return to Oz", Tik Tok first appeared in the third Oz book, Ozma of Oz some 70 years before Star Wars.
PetiteOzma 2 years ago
At the time this was written the Oz books had not been in print for considerable time and most film critics did not know anything about Oz beyond the 1939 MGM movie... So it's understandable how many reveiwers got bad impressions, though there were numerous rebutles at the time.
PetiteOzma 2 years ago
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@amaxamon
"Dear Siskel: Star Wars stole the robot (Tik-Tok) from Oz, not vice-versa. Idiot. And Return To Oz has been proven to be a classic."
Sorry pal, but you're too late. Siskel's dead, but not Ebert & Roeper. Speaking of them, their show got cancelled so you've finally got your revenge and ours.
-R78
Rodimus78 1 year ago
Pee Wee's Big Adventure?
Wha.....?
archer1949 2 years ago
Theyre right about all of these movies, giant peices of crap all of them.
outofnames0 2 years ago
Return to Oz a bad movie ?! Sacrilege.
Fuzzy192006 2 years ago
what's wrong with St elmo's fire. It was good, I think it was to dark then what people expected
trulysarcastic 2 years ago 2
Good film with a great title song!
Xenda 2 years ago
r they serious! peewee rules!!
Jurassicparkfan1001 2 years ago
This is madness. I thought 'Return to Oz' was a terrific and really inspired version of the books. Is Ebert's review based solely on comparison to the original?
squidlad 2 years ago
Silly Gene and his taking Pee Wee too seriously. Didn't he know that whole thing was tongue-in-cheek humor? I thought it was great.
P0mt3 2 years ago 2
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MetaPunkXP 2 years ago
do u think he mentioned return to oz at the funeral?
fpaulferrell 2 years ago 8