Tony Williams Ride Cymbal Metric- Modulation Example

[colourfulwithaU]

BEST EXERCISE. Could have been better explained in the video but once you understand what's going on here, your understanding and feeling for rhythm opens up SO MUCH.

[jerrywitaj]

More cowbell.

[chungiemunchin]

Nice material to practice to get your ride cymbal playing up to speed. That ride cymbal is so important in jazz playing. I've read where people like Roy Haynes expressed the hours that they spent on just playing the ride cymbal.

[semiprecioustones]

Wow

[sicktired01]

very cool

[candidcomment]

Great stuff man! beautifully Played and demoed...Bravo!!!

[678Drummer]

is tempo 90?

[lowgrau]

Good Lord! Is this man deaf?

What a bag of crap.

To use Tony's name and play tthis swingingless junk wrapped up in a "here's how Tony Williams does it," is only showing you're not listening to what you're sounding like.

You call THAT playin' a ride cymbal?

God help us all

[Beauxdeauxfinglok]

@lowgrau Not sure what you are really talkin' bout Bill.... It said "example", and it was merely an out of context 'example' of how Tony DID work around the pulse sometimes. It doesn't say "musical example", nor does it say "This is what Tony Williams does." It's close enough. You just sound angry and trollish.

[daprownclown]

@lowgrau YOUR AN IDIOT

[butubalotohilikebook]

good good good, metrical modulation is one of my top favourite things. s'why I like jungle drum'n'bass, jazz, funk, steve reich and zappa. shame your ride sounds like ass, tho.....

[skiddlecrumms]

@butubalotohilikebook Aww, no love for progressive metal? Those kids have some of the best met mod polyrhythems around.

If you just haven't been exposed, I would suggest Pete Peterson (specifically bugz) and bands like Born Of Osiris and Between The Buried And Me.

[TheReligionkills]

I've found a great way to to switch things up on this exercise. Try the whole thing but shift the swing note so i.e. instead of 1 2 &3 4& You can go 1&2 3 &4 or just one swing note 1 2 3&4 which is easy on the straight part but when you get to the trips it gets a little tricky.

[elsegno]

Why don't you add the hi hat? I think it'd be easier to hear the changes, and to keep the time reference...

[PositivelyBored]

@elsegno

you can't hear the cowbell?

[elsegno]

@PositivelyBored I meant two and four...

[par32]

@elsegno that's what the metronome was for

[maxigoodvibes]

O yeaaaaaaaaaah men

[SterlingRe]

It's certainly cool to learn techniques from someone like Tony Williams. He literally introduced many of them to the drumming world. Part of his brilliance was creativity, and of course he had insane chops. Nobody plays like Tony Williams, and it's doubtful anyone ever will. Legend

[dizzypeanut]

@SterlingRe Jeff Tain Watts.

[junkdrum]

Great exercise.

I've been trying this at home. I still haven't gotton the ride pattern based on quarter note triplets. The eighth note triplet pattern is easier to hear. I'll keep working on it...

[MShenSol]

Hey do you have a chart of this?

[analyzingfunny]

@MShenSol Hey can't you just PLAY it, without analyzing it first? Just do it...

[rusjazzman]

good job, man

[teonaranjo]

start with a slow basic comping ride, then the same ride pattern over the quarter triplets notes agruop in four as a new pulse, and then the same (here is the double pulse of the fisrt pulse), then the same (the most fast patern), an then the same inverted up to coming the first pulse. (sorry for my english iam chilean)

[protobuster]

can someone tell what kind of note is he playing at 0:50???

[spacitydrummer4JC]

..just a quick triplet

[gubatera]

@protobuster

16th triplets

[protobuster]

all he is doing is swinging different type of notes, starting from quarters, quarters triplets,8 triplets ecc.. but what kind of notes is he playing at 0:50??? i can't understand

[Biggwil23]

To mlcoo17, I'm not a veteran jazz drummer, but i can read music. All he is doing is modulating quarter note triplets on the ride, tony does it a lot

[zombietooth]

I am not a drummer but have listened to a fair amount of Tony Williams, he could change time and if another player did longer bends and change play involving subtle things in tempo he as drummer could change his time to keep the band tight and man if that is not jazz, that players can up tempo or down tempo to keep going as a flowing group, amazing power of craft, exercises like these would help prepare a drummer for all that.

[mlcoo17]

Would a veteran jazz drummer PLEASE give instructions on what is going on in this clip ? It sounds very cool, but I don't have a clue where to start with practicing something like this.

[PositivelyBored]

@mlcoo17

What you want to do is get a feel for whole notes, 1/2 notes, 1/4 notes, 1/8 notes, triplets, 1/16 notes, 16 note triplets etc....I'd stay away from the jazz part and stick with basic rock and bass-drum drops with 1/8 notes. There's good exercises any drumset instructor could get you started with. Once you get all of the combinations down ("Big 15 bass drum combinations") of eighth notes, you can move on easily to stuff like this and mow through it!

[bosserbee]

thank you

[themilksnatcher]

still cant get it that fast! and iv been playing for 20 years!

[nickyallenk]

try using more of a "drop stroke" technique. i think there's a good video on here that john riley did explaining it. if you can't find it on youtube, i know it's on the zildjian site. it'll help your speed greatly with uptempo ride!

[Nisstyre56]

It sounds better at a slower tempo anyway

[angusbeefoo]

awesome excersize man

[antiotio]

Figure it out !!! Thanks a lot lot lot !!! Gives me load of ideas !

[winnerbaby44]

so this is the trick! cooooool

=)))))

[Jackinthehizzle]

You should explain what you're doing (going to the quarter note triplet, etc.) Most people would have no idea what this is. Vinnie does this stuff a lot when he swings, incidentally.