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  • is there a risk for the bolt to go backwards and hit the shooter in the face ??

  • @scepticpatriot

    No fear, there's no risk! The danger is in front of the rifle!

  • @TheRusty58 ok :)

  • Thats not very fast.

  • K31 is by far my favorite military surplus rifle to shoot. It's just too fun!

  • Ive fired this and it is by far my fav bolt action i have ever used, so smooth in everything from the bolt to the loading.

  • ah ein karabiner, gutes ding kriegt man ab 300.- franken

  • @mustafaTHEmujaheddin - Wo bekommt man so was?

  • @DonConsolero de Karabiner 11 isch es super gwehr zum scheuse

  • @nick21sammy oder der G11..

  • Of course it can't go wrong it's a Swiss weapon

  • @IceColdBeer94 And swiss weapons have soooo much battle experience! LOL

  • @NordicThunder24

    Please tell me, what's your problem??

  • Can some one explain what is different from bolt action and straight bolt pull?

  • @ripflick You can stay in the scope while reloading with a straight pull bolt.

    In Battlefield 3.

    If that's why you're asking and found this video ;)

  • @ripflick A normal bolt-action has to be turned upward or otherwise moved to deactivate the locking system before drawing it to the rear, pushing forward and locking it into place again. Straight pull, you just grab, pull, and push.

  • @John234pwns

    so straight pull basically eliminates the step where you have to pull the bolt up and down on a traditional bolt action

  • @ripflick Exactly. So, it makes it faster to shoot. However, it can be a little more complex, since you have to make the bolt lock by itself.

  • @John234pwns The bolt is not self locking. Look at the action more closely. The grooves in the bolt ride on a lug in the receiver. As the bolt is closed and the handle pushed into full forward position, they rotate the bolt head into the locking lugs. Pulling the bolt rearward, the first inch of travel rotates the bolt head out of the locks to open. The rotation of the bolt body is replaced with a rotating bolt head. But the principle remains the same.

  • @GunBroker100 Well, what I'm saying is that you have to design the locking part of the bolt into a plain forward and back stroke rather than a hand-rotated design like a Mauser or Lee Enfield.

  • What cal is that?

  • @MrDobans13 7.5x55mm

  • @Iraqveteran8888 #1, nice video. #2, how many uses can you get out of those clips? Are they cheap cardboard as I have read? #3, You should get a friend with an Enfield SMLE and do an epic speed-shooting session to give the Enfield a run for its money.

  • Triggers on the K31 are amazing! They break like a glass rod. SUPER SMOOTH. Night and day difference over a Mosin or even a Mauser.

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  • the moisin nagant

  • Brother your are always awsome ! I have my K31 and yes its fast and accurate,I love my rifle.At the range I use a bulls eye and a silhouette target at 100 meters to simulate the Swiss qualification targets and it always hits.Its a true rifleman's rifle.Huuuurrraaahhh AIRBORNE!

  • that's a funny looking bolt eh?? yes i bielieve it is well made too.... it's swiss it has to be good!

  • The worst feature about the K31 is the BHO. When you fire off the last round and hit the BHO, it serves as a physical confirmation that you did in fact just burn off $5 in ammo.

  • @wysoft Up here it's more like $10-15, pretty much have to handload that cartridge in Canada.

    @scepticpatriot I got a 1911 which predated the K31 but it's still pretty similar, I would have to say there is a good chance that ring safety/cocking handle could punch you in the face if you don't move when racking the bolt, depending on how far forward you rest on the stock. I always get out of it's way just in case.

  • @pickinthatbanjo I meant when you shoot and the bolt fails to stay in place :)

  • @scepticpatriot I see what you mean. Well I don't own a K31 but from my understanding the only real difference between the bolts are that they moved the locking lugs to the rear of the bolt and reworked the bolt a bit so it's shorter. The locking lugs are pretty large and the bolts are pretty solid so I would not be too concerned about it firing out of battery.

    If fired out of battery I suppose it could be possible, though the 1911 bolt slams itself closed in those situations.

  • @pickinthatbanjo thanks

  • @scepticpatriot Otherwise actually used to shoot with my Sig 510 assault rifle, I like very much the shooting with the old army K 31 of my father. He gave my his gun and I like its accuracy and the feeling to shoot with it!

    By the way, 36 rifle cartridges Swiss 7,5 x 55 here in Switzerland cost about 20 Francs, about 22 $.

    Regards from Switzerland!

  • I have both the enfield and the K31 and I love them both. The K31 seems to be made better i.e. the mechanism is a work of art and a nice trigger too. I like the peep site on my Enfield though...

  • Such a beautiful and precise gun... I just love it. The way it sounds, the way it feels when it's shot are priceless sensations on a shooting range. Regards from Switzerland!

  • I need to get one of these.

  • recoil?

  • If only these designs were still mainstream.

  • @CrystalHunter1989 This is such a ignorant comment i had to contemplate my response. Do you realize the amount of R&D goes into bolts these days?

  • @rawimpact I didn't say bolts today weren't bad. I just like the old styles.

  • Thanks to you, I bought one. Smoothest trigger on a WWII rifle Ive ever felt.

  • ond to this video... Hey man was just wondering if you have ever had much to do with the 6mm M1895 Lee Navy? I think it would be really cool if someone would put a video up on here of one of these very interesting rifles

  • Stupid question: where can one find K31 stripper clips?

  • @601SQNRAF Try gunbroker and also places like AIM Surplus. They can also be found pretty easy at gun shows.

  • How much was is.. And how much does ammo usually cost... I honestly buy one...

  • if only the swiss had fought in ww2.....

  • I won a trophy at a 200 yard match with my (unmodified) K31 in 2007. I have several of them now and want more.

  • I think I have that same jacket at home...

  • wow what a sexy beast

  • if i ever shot one of these i would feel like the bolt is gonna hit me in the face.

  • i wish they maded a rifle like this for the .50cal round

  • @bazengao it would brake your shoulder.

  • @thebluemaggot now that's a false statement... there are already rilfes that fire the 50.cal (like the barret for example and between others) and so far no 1 got hes arm torn apart or riped off... so next time get more intel before spaming uselless nonsences...

  • @bazengao your comparing a bolt action to an automatic. The Barret is capable of rapid fire because it was built for rapid fire. It has a specially designed recoil reduction system that relives a LOT of recoil from the shooter. A Bolt action would transfer almost all the recoil straight into your shoulder. Rapid firing a 50 cal bolt action like this would most assuredly injure the shooter.

  • @thebluemaggot so far no 1 got his arm torned off or hes shoulder broken... rapid fire with a sniper?? who the hell would do that? omg where did you come up with that nonsence? snipers dont shoot like theres no tomorrow... they didnt recieved training for almost a year, so that they could screw up in field... GOD! grab a brain will you!? that statment above is tottally irrelevant.... shut up already!

  • @bazengao

    You never know what could happen in a war, lets say your Allies are dead and while the position is being overrun there are 4 men 80 yards and closing and Oh DEAR GOD one of them has a PKM 7.62

    Do you try to run away with a 30+lb rifle and 65lbs of gear? Abandon your $5000 death machine so they can pick it up and hunt you later? Look for a different weapon (no time) or just try too take them all out quickly.

    Sure its hypothetical but that doesn't mean it hasn't or wont happen.

  • @dukenukemthreed i was talking about gun designs and stuff not tactics or "what if's" during the war.... did you even stopped to think thru what you were going to write? and death machine? i saw that in a video game! your just one of thoose CoD fan boys! dude WTF? thats absoletly irrelevant to this conversation as also retarded! games are not the same as real life! so please for your own sake just shut up! dear god...

  • @bazengao

    I highly doubt an insolent  jackass like you has ever used a real weapon and I further doubt that you shoot often, you seem to enjoy insulting people who you don't even know and THAT is and shall remain the only strong character trait you have-Insolence.

    In the field of firearms I see your kind often, like the guy at my local firing range who mouths off to his customers for saving brass or attacks their gear, people like you hurt this sport.

    But you can change if you try, I dunno

  • @dukenukemthreed what ever tard if it makes you feel that import, you won... what ever it was...

  • I get one on swiss for only 150FR is about 100 or 120$.. In swiss u can buy one without liscence..

  • so...which should i get...a hex reciever mosin nagant 91/30....or a swiss k31?

  • @mrantihippie i got a mosin and its awesome, im not gonna hate on the k31 tho because i dont own one and from this vid you cans see they are fine rifles

  • @mrantihippie Whaich ever you want. i have both and I love them equally. :)

  • @mrantihippie Easy answer, BOTH. Get the K31 first, they're harder to find and more expensive. Get the Hex m91/30 nest, They're super cheap and easy to find.

  • Just got a K31 in great shape for $236. All the accessories are what will add up.

    Sling, cleaning kit, strippers, maybe scope mount plus rings, loading dies, brass, bullets, etc. I ran the cost of reloading versus milsurp and it's almost a wash, especially since the D11 Swiss milsurp is reputed to be very good. I'd like the options I get with reloading and with lighter bullets, if they shoot Ok from the 1 in 9" rifling, it could be cheaper. Plus, you can take it hunting!

  • It's such an odd 30-40s era military rifle, that I MUST have one.

  • looks like a nice action but you cant keep your cheek on the stock when cocking which sucks

  • how much did he pay for it? deff. my fav. bolt action rifle veryyy nice gun 5*s

  • SWISS MADE !!!!!!!!! SWISS WEAPON

  • I still rather use a 91/30

  • it smooth as hell

  • Swiss rifles are boring. They always hit the target.

  • @mrmott44 lol

  • never used in combat

  • do you know the price of a K31?

  • @Mauser2012 2-300 buks at jg.

  • ide like to see this go up against a enfield to see what is the better rifle

  • I think the Enfield is smoother than the K31.

  • Thats a bold statement but I think I could sling lead pretty quick out of both. I suppose the Enfield has the K31 beat in terms of magazine capacity though. The K31 is a lot more accurate.

  • @Iraqveteran8888

    I just find between my K31 and No.4 Mk.1/2, my Enfield is smoother and more enjoyable to use. I never shot my K31 however. Only worked the bolt with some snap caps. I hear a lot of good things on it's accuracy, and bad things on it's recoil lol What do you think improves the K31's accuracy so much? The 7.5x55 (I recall that being the K31 round anyways...), the sights, the action perhaps?

  • Once you get used to the K31, it shoots cricles around any other gun of the era. Trust me.

  • @Iraqveteran8888 so do you like the k-31 more than an m1 garand?

  • @jesseholmz Apples to Oranges

  • @Iraqveteran8888 Im sure my SKS bolt cycles faster :P

    Besides, when was the last time this thing saw battle, like did it ever? lol

  • @Iraqveteran8888 Daaamn....I may be sold on this weapon. For the longest I had my eyes on a K98 or Enfield. I'd much rather have one of these. Is ammo pretty easy to get like the other weapons of WWII era ?

    Also....what about a scope on this weapon ?

  • @Iraqveteran8888 Just got my own k31 today! Can't wait to get it out on the range tomorrow!

  • @NormanMatchem the K31 is a marvel of engineering and reliability. the action was extremely advanced for its time and still today. since the entire action is milled out of one soild piece of steel, the rifles are strong enough to use as step to get over walls. if you can handle a 7.62x54r or a .30-06, you can handle the GP11 loads even. i'd say the accuracy is just because of its production, the attention to details and everything. they are just a blast to shoot!

  • @NormanMatchem I'd say it's the typical Swiss anal-retentiveness and workmanship. The tolerances on that gun are superb.

  • @NormanMatchem Anal-retentive Swiss craftsmanship. :3

  • @halfassedfart lol it's a finely made rifle to be sure!

  • @NormanMatchem I think it's just plain craftsmanship. The Swiss rifles are far more nicely made than any service rifle has the right to be. Close tolerances, hand-fitting, and tight Q.C. are what make an accurate rifle.

    I don't find that the straight-pull is massively faster than a traditional bolt, if you're practiced with both. It's kind of a novelty in a way. Funny thing is, if they'd added a gas tube and a spring, they'd have had a semi-auto rifle ;)

  • @NormanMatchem Personally i think that is the trigger, i've find it far more smooth and accurate: its extremely smooth until you feel a little "click", at that point even the slightest pression will make the gun

    shoot, just like a stetcher but with the difference that if you let the trigger it will return in standard position like any normal trigger.

    Now i have to specify that mine is a 1923 made K11, not a K31 and then the whole thing can be different.

    Recoil is just a bit harsh than a m1mk3

  • @Iraqveteran8888 I've looking to buy a rifle like this, but how much are they priced? Are they expensive?

  • @matador5135 at a gun show, they run to be about 400 to 500 so not bad. i picked mine up a few days ago for 425 and it included a box of 50 rounds for it. The guy that sold it to me said youll never want another bolt action after you get it. I have a Mosin Nagant and a Kar98, and me being a fan of the Mosin's action, I was blown away by this amazing rifle. It is just so smooth.

  • @Iraqveteran8888 K31 is faster no doubt, straight-pull= economy of motion. I guess when he said smoother, he meant since extracting the spent case and cocking the SMLE are separated into two motions, you don't work as hard with the initial pull of the bolt.

  • @redmunkee Look at my video "speed of the SMLE" and you'll understand. Keep in mind I'm not trying for accuracy at all, just demonstrating the speed at which Enfield rifles can be fired. Look up "Mad Minute" as well. Once I get a reloading set up, I'll have to try a mad minute with the K31 and see how many hits I can get in 60 seconds at 200 yards vs enfields. English soldiers in WWI were reguired to manage at least 20 hits at 200 yards or something like that. Many soldiers could do better.

  • @NormanMatchem All pro biathloners disagree, they use rifles with this kind of bolt action. History/discovery channel is biast at best. Anyway look at guns and ammo's rewiw of the krag jørgensen design bolt action they said it might even be smother than the Lee-Enfield, there are even some videos of the rifle on youtube. Educate yourself, and read more objective reviews.

  • @neitilinvandring

    I don't get my info from the history/discovery channel. I didn't get info when I made my little statement. I just said I thought the Enfield action is smoother than the K31. I own both, and I enjoy my No.4 Mk.1/2 more than my K31, and I can shoot it faster. I educate myself with the little experience I have, and the experience I'll be getting throughout my life. Already got 16 guns, and I know how to properly use, disassemble, and reassemble all of em. Thank you very much.

  • @NormanMatchem So did you read the review done by profesionals?

  • @neitilinvandring No, I made my statement based on my own personal experience with my own Enfield No.1 Mk.3, and No.4 Mk.1/2, and Swiss K31

  • @NormanMatchem I like my Lee Enfield, It got a place on my wall next to some other nice ww1/2 guns, and shoot them all once in a while. I stared collecting ww2 guns at a very uong age. The Natinal guard in Norway was still using MP40, and mauser(rechambered to 308 nato) when I joiner the National guard youth group. I was issued a Norwegian built H&K G3 (AG3), but by then I all ready had a cuple of mp40 att home:)) I liked the few k31 i have had the fortune to shot, not many k31 around here:((

  • @neitilinvandring

    Nice, I'm a collector as well. Started in 2008 so when I was 18 years old. 19 now. Quite a ways to go yet, but with 10 historical rifles, and 2 historical pistols already, I'm off to a not bad start. :) Slowly finding places to buy ammo so I can shoot them all. Not much in my city so I mainly depend on internet ammo suppliers.

  • @NormanMatchem I got my first guns from my grandpa, he had a few nice guns from the war. One Norwegian buildt sten with no markings, buildt in a little workshop somevere during the ocupation. He also got two double-barreled Elephant rifles that the british air droped during the war, he still do not know why:)

  • @NormanMatchem Ive stroked both and i must say both the metal and the wood are smoother on the K31

  • @NormanMatchem

    The K31 is a differant animal, sprint w the enfield then (WITHOUT LOWERING RIFLE OR CHANGING AIM), cycle, reload, kneel, cycle, reload, go prone, cycle fast as you can then reload.

    I highly doubt most people can do that without a hiccup as I screw up all the time with my mosin, the Enfield is waaay better than the mosin sure but the action is still "UP-BACK-FORWARD-DOWN.

    K31 is just "BACK-FORWARD", there is no way you can screw that up as much as with you can a turn bolt.

  • @NormanMatchem 1, I also own and shoot an Enfield No. 4, Mk 1. and it is indeed smooth ... in relation to my .30-06 M1903 Springfields, 7.92x57 German Mauser K98, and my 7.62x54R Finnish Mosin Model 39. However, the ballistics of the 7.5x55 does not appear far removed from that of the .303 British service round. Granted, I don't have a K31 Swiss ... yet, but I might be making room for it in the vault. I think it will be one of the "smoother" guns too.

  • @Nanjing03 It's a well made firearm, and can be cycled fast. Heard great things about the accuracy too, but I don't think I'll be shooting my K31 until I get a reloading set up, or manage to find some GP11 here in Canada. Doesn't bother me too much since I love shooting Russian firearms with czech surplus :) If the accuracy is what everyone says it is, and you can find/make the 7.5x55mm then like Iraqveteran says in the video, can't go wrong.

  • @NormanMatchem i was just thinking that. have one from 1941 and haven't fired a bolt action weapon smoother than it

  • @SasquatchIsAmerican I've got a 1942 No.4 that's extremily smooth however I find my 1915 SMLE is a bit moreso. I think the reason the Enfield can be operated faster than K31 is because you don't even need to take your hand off the bolt, and with a little practice Enfields seem more like a straight pull as apposed to "up back forward down". Add to that the 10 round capacity and they can probably out shoot a K31.

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  • @NormanMatchem this can be true, but consider that if you want make fireworks with the smelly you must got the proper (intense) training, while with the Schmidt (both k11 and k31) you can make fireworks even without being a veteran tommie.

    SMLE: potentially faster but require experience, +4 shots

    Schmidt: bit harsh recoil, far better trigger, more easy to use for untrained guys.

    result: in my opinion they are roughly on par

  • @Dour888 1st.

    I know the SMLE only from see. Undisputed, one of the most legendary rifles in history. To the K31. I have my father's rifle. He provided military service with his K31 from 1948 to 1978, shot countless of GP11 and also many rifle grenades, carried his rifle through dirt and snow and it still has the first barrel. The rifle is still very accurate, I shoot with it from time to time. To hit a 20 cm target at a distance of 300 meters is with this rifle not a masterpiece!

  • @Dour888 2nd.

    A 20 cm target corresponds to a "four" on the Swiss B-4 orderly target. To the rapidity in shooting: You should also meet something, advantageously the target. Last autumn I have with the K31 of my father in a six shot rapid-fire in one minute at 300 meters, the "four" met four times, so a 20 cm target.

    Excuse my bad English. Regards from Switzerland.

  • @TheRusty58 Ahah! Im' not english neither, im NORTH italian (South-western Lombardy).

    My k11 have an used barrel too, but it shoot very well, pratically a roughly 6cm vertical line made by the holes of the bullets at 50m., and this in the hands of a mediocre experienced rifle shoter (me).

    I always come to your beautiful land for the Waffen-Sammlerbörse at Luzern.

    Regard from Lombardy ; )

  • @Dour888 Thank you very much for your kind reply. I must say, we're almost neighbors. Io vivo a Berna (traduttore di Google). You may be interseted that I have also the army K11 of my grandfather (Il Nonno, is'nt it?). Too bad, the firing pin is broken and the barrel is in a very poor condition. But mostly of all I shoot with my SIG 510, with what I was doing military service until 2000. I shoot only on the 300-meter shooting range.

    Saluti a Lombardia!

  • @TheRusty58 WOW! A Gewher 11! im sorry that is damaged, it's a very ineresting weapon and for you it is even more precious due to the fact that was the one of your Nonno (yes, this is the word ;)).

    I like the SIG 510 (i know it as Stg 57) maybe some day ill' buy it at Luzern.

    Saluti a Berna e a tutta la Svizzera mein freund! ; )

  • @Dour888 Grazie tanto! You go to the weapons stock market at Lucerne?

    So, do you own several guns? You write about the SMLE. Do you have one?

    Is the m1 mk3 a Garand? In Italy countless of these famous rifles were manufactured!

    I like to shoot with my bolt action guns. They have a history that I know. I think I can feel better the guns with bolt action.

    Maybe you know what I mean.

    Tanti saluti a Italia e una buona Domenica, Compagno mio :-)

  • @TheRusty58 I haven't buy nothing yet due to importation complications but maybe i'll try something in the future.

    I HAD a SMLE and i very liked it but sadly the barrel was crooked then i have sell it very soon.

    The garand is just the "m1" and yes, we have manifactured them in 7,62x51mm.

    the SMLE come in two main models, the earlier is the "N"1(not "M"1) mk3 and this one was used by italian navy but not manufactured by us.

    I know what you mean ; )

    Guter Sonntag mein freund : )

  • a hell lot better then the bolt-action models if you ask me!!

  • @bazengao It is a bolt-action, it's just a straight pull bolt.

  • So jealous! I really want one...

  • been looking for one with a garbage stock so i wont feel bad about chopping it up and sporterizing it, i already own one and i LOVE it my favorite firearm of all, hands down

  • Don't butcher the stock dude...There are some really nice options available from Boyds for the K31 that look really nice.

  • Your gun do what you want. But, why sporterize it? Are you trying to improve accuracy? Compete with it? Take a pound off?

  • I can't think of a sanctioned competition where they would allow a modified military surplus rifle, so why bother?

  • i guess it sounds silly to some people but to turn some heads at the ranch i like having uniqe firearms

  • It is what it is. There are plenty out there.

  • to each his own

  • yeah i agree, sporterizing a military rifle is just a waste. why ruin a fine bolt action rifle by shortening it. these things should be cherished not "disfigured".

  • I could sporterize something like a Mosin Nagant that there are millions of, but a K31, I would never dream of messing with it. They are designed good from the ground up the way they are. It would be like chopping up a Swedish Mauser....

  • i just dont like sporting or hunting rifles of any kind. theres just no history to it. and to me sporterizing a rifle espeacialy a military rifle is defaming history but thats me.

  • @BATTLEDROID678

    Well, If I do anything to a milsurp, it's not a "bubba" job. I don't "cut" the stocks like a lot of these people think looks good and works better for them.

    I like to leave them in their military configuration and make minor improvements. Glass bedding, a scope, and that's it.

  • well i dont mind minor alterations, but not like taking the furnature off the forward half of the rifle and leaving just a free floating barrel. i myself own an arisaka, (pretty typical bolt action rifle nothing to fancy) and some people go messing it up by removing the bayonet lug, rear sight, just about everything except for the receiver and then putting it in a completely different furniture configuration.

  • @BATTLEDROID678

    Yeah changing the stocks just makes them look like hell. I love it how bubba cuts the stock and that automatically "makes it more accurate"

    LOL

  • oh yeah, who was the previous owner of the rifle? did some research and i find it interesting how the swiss put the previous owners tags in the stock. and who or what is "bubba"?

  • I don't know the guys name, but both of my K31s have troop tags under the butt plate.

    "Bubba" is used to describe a back woods gunsmith who ruins guns by not knowing what they are doing...lol.

  • K31 is an AWESOME piece. Graf&Sons sells brass for it. If you're looking for stripper clips, good place to find them is at the Knob Creek Machinegun Shoot in KY. They have an awesome gun show running at the same time. Great place to buy accessories, weapons, ammo, etc.

    Just bring serious hearing protection! :-)

  • I picked one of these beauties up today and I've never been happier with a milsurp purchase. The wood on it has very minor dings and scratches and has the markings still intact, it's matching down to the magazine, came with the muzzle cover and a pristine bayonet. The guy also threw in 30 rounds of GP11 match ammo.

    Got it all for $500 and it hits about 1 MOA when I concentrate and I'm not the best shot by any means.

  • @echoside190 Shit! Here in Switzerland you can pick up all of that for 200$ or less! lol

  • @m1garand44

    They're pretty hard to find here in the midwest lol, I've seen maybe 4 of them in the past 3-4 years including mine.

  • I like the stripper clips, went and bought 4 more. Hope your still up for making a left handed k-31 IV

  • @moonpie129

    We will see. I have a lot of pokers in the fire at the current moment.

    In meantime, you could stay on gunbroker and try to find the left handed conversion kit.

  • don't forget the pawn shops, found a nice 30cal m1carbine for 480. All winchester sa marked did not get to break gun down to see if it was all matching. A lot of pawn shop owners don't know that much about weapons

  • yep, iv fin got my k-31 from gunbroker this week. Beautiful 12-42 walnut. Troop tag I went to the english forum in switzerland to find the person if the person was alive. Turns out he is very alive, from old money and a diplomat to Japan either now or at one time. No beaver chewing at all on the buttstock, very nice wood finish. . One sweet shooter. Oh yeah cannot believe that it only cost me $200.00, I have seen weapons of this caliber sell for 400to 500 dollars.

  • type 24/37 vs K31 into the search. Competition me and my friend had. I won. haha

  • i just brought a 1911 carbine , havent recevied it yet , hope its as good quality as these k31s?

  • @idgewe

    oh yeah!

  • @idgewe: Don't worry. The Swiss simply don't know how to fuck things up. They simply can't. Even if they tried. If you can, get a Swiss bayonet too. An astounding piece of workmanship.

  • That's right. It's not in their blood to do things with poor craftsmanship...

    Love live the Swiss.

  • @Iraqveteran8888 Wow! That was one fast reply! I guess you really like firearms. I do, anyways. Too bad though, i can only own five firearms in my country. Well, if i had the right amount of paperwork done, patience and time, money and reasons etc i could, maybe could, own more. But that would be nigh on impossible.

  • 5 is fine. 1 Bolt action. 1 Semi-auto carbine. 1 Pistol. 1 Shotgun. 1 more semi-auto carbine :)

  • @XR4turbo I thought something like this:

    1: My very first firearm.

    2: Something that goes BOOM! An asskicker.

    3: Something to empty mags with as fast as i can pull the trigger. A shtf -gun if you will. One that keeps firing no matter what. A LoL-gun.

    4: One for accuracy.

    5: Something special. May cost a pretty penny.

    Oh yeah. No 22's, pistols, six-shooters or scoped firearms. Just open sights.

  • First firearm: probably a medium to light caliber rifle. Mine was a .30-30 winchester 1894

    Boom: FN FAL. You can't get much more power in as good a package as a FAL. Not much can get up after getting hit with a .308

    Lol-GUN: Clearly an AK47 or AK74. 74 ammo (5.45x39) is stupid cheap, so it makes it even better. They never stop working

    Accuracy: FAL and K31 are both good for this. 1000 yards easy

    Special: FN P90 is pretty choice. Great little gun. But special is different for everyone.

  • LoL... This is getting out of hand...

    First: M1 Garand. I absolutely love it. And i'm a pretty good shot with it, too.

    Boom: Mosin Nagant M44. Kaboomski from the handy howitser. A guaranteed headturner.

    Accuracy: Schmidt Rubin K31. Can't beat Swiss craftsmanship. Period.

    LoL-Gun: Ak47. Of course an AK. Such an icon. Cheap, simple, reliable. 75 round drums will do just fine.

    Special: ????? Still scoping out...

    As you can see i'm a military style kinda person. Metal and wood will do for me.

  • Ballistics are quite similar.

  • what? 7.5x55 and .308? Yes...but which one has the big magazine and semi-auto fire? lol

  • do you have a garand already?

  • Yup. Sweet rifle. It's my very first firearm.

    Only slot #5 needs to be filled.

  • Wow! That was one fast reply!

  • :) I just bought one of these for my 18th birthday!

  • You made a good choice! Happy Birthday!

  • I just shot some hard drives with my walnut stock K31 earlier today and posted videos if you'd care to look.

    The Swiss K31 is an excellent rifle. While the ammo is a bit pricey, the accuracy, reliability and range of this rifle is impressive. Without a doubt, the Swiss military places a high emphasis on marksmanship.

    Excellent choice, man. Excellent choice.

  • @macguyinnc

    I'll check out the videos. Thanks

    Ammo is a little high, but very good quality. Handloading is where it's at for this rifle.

    I have my scoped K31 down to .5 MOA at 100 yards!

  • It is really time to test out grnndpas old peice, shot the last time in the 70ties...

  • i have one of these, and its very impressive for such an old beast... Good power, and even with the Iron sights is pretty acurate at 100yds

  • man i want one and i know a gun shop in town that has one

  • funky stripper clips, and i thought that was semi auto but the action is so different, i gotta have one

  • They are very accurate and well made rifles.

    In theory, the action could be technically consider "hand assisted semi automatic operation"

    All this rifle would need is some mods and a gas system developed (as well as other drastic mods) and it would work.

  • How does this rifle compare to a Mannlicher M95?

  • The M95 is like trying to open a new pickle jar compared to the K31.

    I still want one though, especially for the price.

  • Well I got mine from a gun show, so if there's a gun show in your town-province- look up where and the date of it, and usually if its a surplus military gun show there will probaly be alot. and i bought mined for around $240-$250...

  • where can i find a rifle like this thanks? and how much do they run? thanks

  • Try either gun shows, gun broker, your local gun stores, or find one from an individual locally.