Happily Ever After: Perpetuating Stereotypical Gender Ideals

[ToxicStrawberryPanda]

Mulan went to fight in the war for her father cause he was old and she was a women and she was brave to do that cause I think I remember that women weren't allowed or something like that and since she did it for her father it shows she cares for her family and will protect them!

[leecfb000]

This is a stupid video. You only chose the cartoons that confirmed your assertions that girls are taught to be princesses, and boys are taught to be heroes. Those cartoons you mentioned are outdated and in no way reflect the majority of films out there. Are you suggesting children's films and books are responsible for boys being masculine and girls being feminine?

[Nae00]

This whole thing is ridiculous, i mean i saw this when i was a little girl and loved it, I also loved to play with my stuffed animals and fake kitchen set, was that wrong, did i grow up to be some submissive housewife? No, Im now a college student, studying tirelessly to become a physician. Point of story if little girls ( or boys for that matter) want to watch this and pretend there princesses/princes, LET THEM, let them be kids and dream.

[hufflepuffgirl123]

while i agree with you on some of these instances, you are also forgetting mulan, who was a bad-a** chick who went into the army for her dad and kicked some huns' a**, and hermione granger, who was the most intelligent and crafty witch of her time in the hp series.... i don't follow the princesses, i follow the smart, tough, yet classy and graceful girls.... they are great role models....besides mulan is one of the disney princesses. :)

[lala1234978]

I was playing LIFE with my teenage friends when I randomly picked a girl for my fiancé and got kicked out.

[VillainessVixen]

I was allways bothered by the gender roles as a kid, it made me want to be a boy instead. I figured I'd grow up unattractive and I'd join the football team in highschool. I never let my relatives teach me how to cook because I noticed the women in my family did the cooking while the men waited to be fed. So I don't wear pink, makeup, worry about my weight, or wear revealing shirts. The only problem with my plan is I actually am attractive, a normal weight, and I have a big cheast (naturally).

[SenneffRules]

@VillainessVixen so whats the problem then

[Rozax]

I'm glad you made this video (even though youtube muted it). I had a few problems growing up because I wasn't what girls were "supposed" to be. I never subscribed to the porcelain doll image, and it upset me when I was forced to emulate it. Did I like being pretty? Of course. Most people like being aesthetically pleasing. But I also liked being independent, athletic, paint-free, and appreciated for who I am.

I really liked the "marriage will solve all your problems" part of this video!

[coccinelsucrer]

This is very true, but it is starting to change. I grew up with Disneys, i love them and i still watch them, but i've never wanted to be like Cinerella or Snowwhite. My favorite Disney characters have always been Mulan and Pocahontas because they're so beautiful and determinded to follow their dreams and achieve their goals. They're real, positive role models for young girls, so even though traditional beliefs of femininity and masculinity still exist. There is a real change going on.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@coccinelsucrer " They're real, positive role models for young girls, so even though traditional beliefs of femininity and masculinity still exist."

As they should because they are real and rooted in biology. Even with Feminist influence over 3-4 decades, young women continue to enjoy a huge advantage in personal power up until their early-30's . When Feminists speak of social equality, when will that feminine advantage to gain favor and fortune from men by leveraging femininity be reduced?

[coccinelsucrer]

@feministsAreCorrupt

Women gaining fortune and favor from men by "leveraging femininity"? A huge advantage in personal power? What are you talking about here? Can you illustrate these arguments with an example?

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@coccinelsucrer Sure. Women hired over a man for appearance, be it corporate secretary or modeling, general practice of men paying for decades of dating expenditures, tradition of male purchasing engagement and wedding rings, loss of tradition of bride's family paying for weddings.

But above all, the female practice of rejecting 80% of available men and selecting mates primarily by income.

[coccinelsucrer]

@feministsAreCorrupt

1 .Okay, i have never heard any feminist actually thinking it is a good thing that a woman would get a job just because she is pretty, in fact that is pretty demeaning as it carries the message that intelligence doesn't matter for a woman and all her value is basically measured in her beauty. Pretty shallow if you ask me. Secondly, financial independence from a man is something feminists have been supporting since the beginning by encouraging them to pursue a career,..

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@coccinelsucrer "any feminist actually thinking it is a good thing that a woman would get a job just because she is pretty,"

Feminists strongly believe in corporate affirmative action for women : hire women regardless of education and experience, give them on-the-job training, and pay them the same amount as men even if the men perform better.

[coccinelsucrer]

@feministsAreCorrupt

So? There is no relevancy. You are obviously someone who spends a lot of time whining to random strangers about how awful you think feminism is without even caring about whether it is relevant or not. Either that or you do seriously think people who are for affirmative action believe women have to get jobs because they are pretty. Which is kinda ludicrous.

[coccinelsucrer]

@feministsAreCorrupt

2. so there goes the dating thing. Haven't you heard that more and more people split the bill on dates nowadays? It is obviously changing. And most women do not base their life-partner choice solely on whether he has money or not, most marriages are made because the two love each other. And what point are you trying to make here anyway? That feminism encourages these things or not? Because it does not.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@coccinelsucrer "Haven't you heard that more and more people split the bill on dates nowadays?"

I finished dating only a few years ago. Too bad all of my experiences and those of my friends don't agree with the rumor mill. High-earning women expect even more on dates.

"And most women do not base their life-partner choice solely on whether he has money or not,"

They use code phrases such as "What would I have in common with a man with only a high school diploma?"

[coccinelsucrer]

@feministsAreCorrupt

It's your own fault if you keep dating women who're only after your money. That is your experience, and i suppose you realize that everyone is not you, everyone does not experience what you experience and thus all these broad generalizations you make purely based on your experience hold no value, as i do simply not experience the same things.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

coccinelsucrer wrote "That feminism encourages these things or not?"

Feminism is that encompassing doctrine that offers everything to women and nothing to men while asking nothing of women. It is a social policy of female supremacism.

[coccinelsucrer]

@feministsAreCorrupt Again, not answering the question. Just whining. Look there are hundreds of antifeminist people like you who spend 90% of their time whining over and over again about how feminazis have destroyed our society etc. to people who didn't even ask for it. I don't have the time to repeat the same things all the time, read answers that are completely disconnected to the comments they're replying to or hear the same baseless generalizations again so let's just leave it at.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@coccinelsucrer Not feminazis, simply Feminism. A primary goals of Feminism was to destroy the father-mother family because marriage was deemed a patriarchical tool of female oppression. Forty years later, modern women believe that a father and husband are optional as reflected by the divorce rate (70% initiated by women) and 40% of children are born out of wedlock.

Read a book by a Feminist author sometime.

[blaq7427]

disney didnt create these fairy tales they have been around for hundreds of years before disney even existed

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 As long as patriarchal societies existed...

[blaq7427]

@kaltrushify and why is a patriarchy a bad thing ? Do you want everyhing to ba matriarchy ? I guess everything would be perfect then right? Give me a break.

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 Well as long as societies are patriarchal there will never exist true equalty between men and women....If you think that thats okay, because we know of no other reality than sure...but if you disagree with men having more political and economical power than women and seeking to change that....than the answer is no! i dont want a matriarchal society, I never claimed that either!

Im for equality, period!

[blaq7427]

@kaltrushify It is impossible for absolute equality to happen in this world , somebody is always going to have an advantage in one way or another so your just going to have to deal with it

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 Im aware that in some countries women will never gain the same political and economical power, take the muslim countries for example. But I dont think that they have very evolved cultures...The most advanced cultures are the nordic ones, with Sweden and Danmark on top. And here the equality between women and men is almost complete. You also have very small differences between social classes...most of the ppl belongt to the middle class. Now just because everybody knows that wars will..

[kaltrushify]

@kaltrushify exist, doesnt have to mean that we should stop from preventing them and work for a more peaceful world. You can either choose to stay "realistic" or actually make a change. Thats up to you....But changes occur, even though slowly sometimes...But Im sure that they dont occur because of ppl like you. Ppl who just exept reality the way it is, even if its cruel or unfair....

[blaq7427]

@kaltrushify You misunderstand what I am saying. You can try to attain equality under the law but in reality there is no real equality because we are not all equal . Some people are smarter, some are stronger , some are more talented. Men have advantages over women in some ways and women have advantages over men in other ways . Like it or not these things will always exist.

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 But Im not talking about that...I think that society infuences us much, much more than we think...nowadays you can talk about social genders. Women are supposed to fit an already established category and the same applies for men. Think a little bit...from the clothing, coloures, toys,litterature, media, music and so on...What toys does most little girls play with, what toys does most little boys play with, what colours are girly colours and what colours does boys wear... Its not about

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 biological gender, we have created social genders and these are very dangerous. The way you as a man or I as a woman need to behave is being dictated by these alredy established female/male roles...And that prohibits us from developing into who we could have truly become.

[blaq7427]

@kaltrushify the way men and women think has nothing to do with nurture , but nature. Even scientists have discovered this to be true. Our hormone levels are different and that affects the brain and how we think and feel which means most differences are by nature not nurture

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@kaltrushify Social genders exist because they are a reflection of biology and make for an efficient civilization.

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 Come on of course there are biolgical differences between men and women, but I think thay are less important than we giev them credit for. A man can take care of a child and be nurturing just as much as a women can. The women are bound to give birth to children but taking care of them and raising them its not something that only women are entitled to... And women can do hard physical work as well, they are not as strong as men physically but they still have the capability of doing hard

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 hard physical work..I meanbe realistic....who works the fields in for example Africa...mostly women..who carries heavy weight..women do all these physiclly demanding tasks and they have no problems with that. But who are the poorest ppl on this earth even though women of the world work much harder? Women of course!

[kaltrushify]

@blaq7427 Most of the properties (may it be land or something else) is owned by men. Its a matter of tradition, Properties are owned down to new malegenerations....now that has got nothing to do with biology...Only customs and culture!!

What im trying to say is that there are many, many differences between men and women that have got nothing to do with biology, and those differences we cant just accept. Those differences need to be fought!

[blaq7427]

@kaltrushify Like I said before there are always going to be cases where men have the advantage and some where women have the advantage as far as how societiy treats us , but I agree women in the third world should be able to own propety and get an education.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@blaq7427 Men and women would be more equal if women assumed an equal or even increase in the amount of hard manual labor performed.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@kaltrushify How about equality in reproduction? Women currently have a monopoly on that.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@kaltrushify We know no other system than Patriarchy precisely because that organization is the most efficient for men and women. Do women really want to do hard manual labor and dangerous, uncomfortable work? Men continue to sustain nearly all of the workplace fatalities.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@kaltrushify So, how would female personal power be equalized? Would male sex would be just as expensive to women in dating as female sex is to men?

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@kaltrushify "Well as long as societies are patriarchal there will never exist true equalty between men and women."

As long as women continue to sell sexual access, be it dating, marriage or prostitution, there will be no social equality between the sexes.

[Akkra0]

@feministsAreCorrupt "As long as women continue to sell sexual access, be it dating, marriage or prostitution, there will be no social equality between the sexes."

Why do you believe that inequality between the sexes is all because of women?

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@Akkra0 "Why do you believe that inequality between the sexes is all because of women?"

No. Most of it is due to the economically-competitive and inventive nature of men.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@blaq7427 Patriarchy is an excellent thing. Men have demonstrated that they are better at building large organizations with culture that develops rapidly. Women do not have these abilities and instead specialize in small familial units. Both are needed to avoid going back to the days when termites were plucked from the mound for lunch.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@blaq7427 Matriarchies would marked by greater communications about feelings and the near absence of invention and industry.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@kaltrushify Since there are no major civilizations with matriarchical societies, it's clear that the patriarchical model is required for civilization.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@blaq7427 And these fairy tales persist in the adult female romance genre and the self-help publishing industry, both of which cater to the desires of women.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

What has feminism contributed to American Culture? The Six Year Marriage? Children that see less of their father than any generation before them?

[feministsAreCorrupt]

"Princesses depend on their Princes"

Women fundamentally enjoy leveraging their femininity to gain favor and fortune from men. It's much more efficient than working.

[avrilrockstheworld10]

@feministsAreCorrupt That is NOT true. I don't know what girl betrayed you like that, but most women prefer to make it to the top through their own power.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@avrilrockstheworld10 Think about "most women prefer to make it to the top through their own power" when donning outfits that reveal buttocks, leg features , then push-up bras to emphasize breast size, make-up to emphasize red lips, perfume (how does that help work?) and using feminine charm as payment to extract regular favors from other male coworkers.

[JohnnyCindahouse]

@feministsAreCorrupt What power? The only way for them to gain power is to be submissive and passive.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@JohnnyCindahouse Women have power in relationships, media, legislature, law enforcement, money (as in men give it to women), and above all, a monopoly in reproductive control.

[JohnnyCindahouse]

@feministsAreCorrupt Not entirely true. Men are required for women to become pregnant in the first place. Even if they decide to go to a sperm bank. You can't get pregnant from fucking a goat unless you are a goat.

[avrilrockstheworld10]

@feministsAreCorrupt Not all women dress that way. Most of the females I know dress appropriately. The only women I have seen dressed like that were either still teenagers or young adults. Women are trying to make lives for themselves on their own.

[heyketchup]

This kind of stuff pisses me off.

[IntellectualConcepts]

Women are just stupid gold-digging whores and men are pigs.

THAT is reality. Most people catch on before watching this stupid video.

[YooToobPooop]

This video spent over 5 minutes making it's point... but what the hell does it want!? Forbid Disney books!? To actually change very old, almost historic books!? Me and my friends ideas of life have never been based on story books!!!

[kaltrushify]

@YooToobPooop Not forbid...just let ppl now that we have enough childrens books reinforcing old male/female traditional roles. We need books that better reflect the reality that we are living in....the traditional roles have changed ( in advanced cultures anyway). I say more books like pocahontas,alfonso and Pippi Longstocking.

[lauraxoloo93]

I loved Sleeping Beauty, AS WELL as batman.

I completely understand the message to this video, but do not agree with ALL the concepts of it. I have read many childrens books were the main character is a powerful bold female. There are many character types, and all of them are displayed. There is nthing wrong with wanting to have a man who will come to your rescue from time to time..there is nothing wrong with wanting to be a Princes. If a little girl or boy wants to be something, let them be

[lauraxoloo93]

So must we deny young girls the priveleges of watching Cinderella? Or participating in ballet? What about marriage? Do we not let them see the happily ever after movies, for fear that their husbands will actually help them from time to time?How about little boys, can they not wear their spider-man costumes anymore? All these examples, which are true to what you say, are not necessarily bad things.

Some children may just want to behave the way they choose. When I was younger

[frenchydeepcar]

I keep chickens. Cocks crow and protect their Hens. Hens crouch down when the cocks go near them. Every now and then the hens get broody,sitting on eggs. I have not found the cock sitting on any eggs. Is their behaviour down to the TV I have installed in their henhouse.

[waldoman7]

you're actually comparing human beings to chickens?

birds operate mostly on instinct. mammals teach their young how to survive, and humans in particular obviously think a lot more than most animals. With humans nurture beats nature 9 times out of ten.

and you gave your chickens a TV???

[heyketchup]

@frenchydeepcar I think it must be :L

TV is the root of all evil remember

[morganandreason]

"This video contains an audio track that has not been authorized by WMG. The audio has been disabled."

Does the Warner Music Group realize how bad this makes them look? The video was made for non-profit educational purposes. They are imbecilles! I swear that I will never buy a warner music album ever again, until they change their behaviour with regards to use of their music in videos like this. I suggest others do the same!

[uriel578]

@morganandreason Not that I am for strict copyright law, or the that I see the use of their music, in the manner of this video, as being other than free advertisement of their artists. But to believe that WMG consciously chose to block this audio track, is perhaps erroneous. I think they have a software program that seeks out their songs and then sends a cease-and-desist request to the web-admin. I seriously doubt that anyone at WMG has seen this video.

[missmental]

Disney dosn't make movies with gay couples because there would be a lot of conservative groups calling for a boycott of the film and accusing Disney of "indoctrination innocent children with their liberal agendas". I'm not saying there's anything wrong with homosexuality (there isn't), but I am saying that making such a movie would probably be a risky move for Disney.

[rainbowwings91]

If the childrens film industry began producing films containing homosexuality, of course there would be outcry. It may take 10 or even 100 years for homosexuality to be a regular theme within the media, but if they don't start it will never happen. How do you think they made changes to womens rights and for black people? It all started somewhere. Of course it would be a risky move for Disney they are a billion dollar company! They wouldn't want to risk their money to help fight discrimination.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@rainbowwings91 There is no need for homosexuals to be a regular theme in the media. Unlike women, Blacks and other minority groups, homosexuals refuse to be identified let alone counted.

Disney doesn't make movies with homosexual characters because they don't want to risk zero sales.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@missmental Disney doesn't make movies with gay couples because homosexuals are only 1% of the population, and homosexuals in general do not have children. Who would buy these movies?

[priscijojo]

@feministsAreCorrupt homosexuals have children ASSHOLE

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@priscijojo No. Homosexuals in general do not have children. When they do, it is at a disproportionately low rate, and of course, only one of the couple is a biological parent.

Grab a dictionary for those 3+ syllable words.

[priscijojo]

@feministsAreCorrupt so your parents are your parents just cuz they created you biologically? k, im adopted. so my parents are not my BIOLOGICAL parents, guess what, i would never ever consider em MY parents cuz those who raise me are my REAL parents.n guess what else, you dont have to underestimate those who are part of a minory. ok, homosexuals who have children are a low rate, so what? we all have the same rights idiot.

[jonjlvr]

As usual people read into it more than they need to, kids have been watching movies,cartoons, and books for years with no problems like bieng to femine or masculine we as parents need to let our kids dream thats what story's are about using amaginations do we really want them to watch broke back mountain,mommy dearest or something else that could be tramatic or teach them to be less than they can be? no there kids let them dream and be KIDS.

[CrawdaddyJoe]

I think the blatant sexism of Disney was primarily in the era that society as a whole held strongly onto traditional gender roles. Since the era of sexism and gender roles, I would say that Disney's portrayal of women has gotten more assertive and men in disney films has become more sensitive. The current society, though it still holds on to a lot of the old gender stereotypes and inequality, it upholds PC ideas, and so Disney has gone with that.

[yiqiebygairui]

Since i was a little girl i`ve had so many ...

WHAT a JOKE!!!

since i was a little boy, i had so many personal issues, such as the fear that I would be sent to Vietnam and have my arms and legs blown off!!!!! I was only a 10 year old little boy!!!

[Somuchtoplay]

Agree with you fully. All these accusations against disney being racist and sexist are just ridiculous...

[DrCherryPie]

its so true

i remember the paper bag princess fondly

i was happy to see a female that could solve her own problems

otherwise i relied on reading books where the main character was a boy

[TIFFANYISMYFAVE]

AH! Have they even watched the Simpson's?King of Queens?and most sit coms, the man is not the smart heroic one, he is usually the fat lazy one who got lucky and got a beautiful hard working wife. I love how girls who choose "girly" things are called naive. I think the feminist movement hurts women. They make girls who are just doing what they like feel bad for doing what THEY WANT to do, but of course they are just naive and cant think for themselves.

[CrawdaddyJoe]

I think that women who don;t understand the feminist movement and who call themselves feminists while disparaging women who choose to be traditionally feminine are harmful. The feminist movement is about choice and freedom for women, and freedom from control by gender expectations. A true gender equality advocate should not disparage domestic women or assertive men. They should disparage the system that forces assertive women and domestic men to be something they aren't.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@CrawdaddyJoe The Feminist movement is about enslaving men to continue to do the bulk of the dangerous, difficult and inventive work while subsidizing women in simple work that allows women to spend less time at the office while paying them the same rate.

Feminism is popular among women because it promises (but does not deliver) increases in benefits without additional responsibilities.

[CrawdaddyJoe]

@feministsAreCorrupt Except that's not what the feminist movement is about. At all. I used to think that. Then I spent time with feminists, and actually bothered listening to them and trying to understand what they were saying. Maybe you should do the same, instead of letting the far right paint your opinion of feminists.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@CrawdaddyJoe Far right? Just ask any woman if she thinks a father is important for a child, if women should be concerned that sons are now at a significant disadvantage in education or their perceptions of men in general. I've listened to Feminist women, debated with them and read the words of Feminist authors as I own more Feminist books than any typical Feminist has ever read.

It's clear that Feminism is female supremacy.

[CrawdaddyJoe]

@feministsAreCorrupt I've yet to meet a feminist who thinks that men are unimportant in the development of children, and I am an active member of a number of grassroots feminist and pro-feminist organizations. It's clear that you have no idea what you're talking about.

[feministsAreCorrupt]

@CrawdaddyJoe I notice that you substituted "men" as opposed to father and side-stepped my entire point because you have no idea what I'm talking about. Hard to blame you. Any American man born 1960 or later has no vocabulary to describe or understand the Fatherless Generation other than "All men are rapists, batterers, criminals, etc." and don't belong in the house.

A few guys that specialize in pursuing Feminist twat, an otherwise untapped bonanza. R-E-S-P-E-C-T

[CrawdaddyJoe]

@feministsAreCorrupt I understood exactly what you said and disagreed. I had a father and respected him. He was an important part of my life, and he respected women. Feminists respected him. I grew up in a household that respected women and feminist principles. I am an adult man, and I respect women and feminist principles. I'm not going to stop respecting women or bow down to some far-right misinformed definition of feminism because you got snubbed by a feminist once upon a time. Get over it.

[allyt511]

does anyone know where i can find the first song in this video?!

[gr33npuff1n]

Has anyone else noticed that none of the disney princes have any sort of facial hair?

[bagman369]

That's cause real girls dont have facial hair...

[CalvinTheTriangle]

@bagman369 the person before you said princes as in male royalty. Girls would be princesses.

[davehiggod]

This video is a total joke. Firstly, there are countless books written by extremists, exclusively for women. Also, the stuff mentioned in this video happens to be minor & insignificant. WHile, every major degrading stereotype targets against males, the stuff mentioned here is not harmful in the least bit. Most importantly, you'll notice the mentality of the author (EKL16).As usual, they try to say that every possible stereotype is against girls. So, she didn't even mention one thing 4 boys

[CrawdaddyJoe]

She did say that boys were being encouraged to be aggressive, tough, and superheroic. That's a rather high standard, don;t you think? I don;t appreciated being pressured to be manly. I can be manly if I feel like it, and I'm a very assertive and tough person. But knowing I have the choice to be domestic and submissive would be cool. I would never do that, because I'm not a submissive or domestic person, but I want that option.

[pbnsteak]

i thank whoever created this video greatly and i completely agree with all of the views expressed in it!

since i was a little girl i`ve had so many personal issues and self-doubt because of the role society tried to force upon me. now i realize that no matter how many people try get me to conform to femeninity, they can never change who i am. it is good to see someone else is thinking about this. i just hope that someday young girls and boys will not have to go through what i did.

[edwardcookiecutter]

yea corocco just like Gaston compared to his wimpy and ugly sidekick, do we really want litle boys mimicking the kind of so-called masculinity that he displays?

Great video and I hear "the paperbag princess" is a good kids' book

[CrystalDear]

Yeah Im going to try to encourge my girls to read and watch stories that have strong female roles.

[pbnsteak]

thank you so much!

[Corocco1]

And any hesitant, timid males that second-guess fighting in Disney always seem to be bumbling and unnatractive:(