@Vitrearum : It appears you are getting used to it. The English mediaeval style vestments and ornaments are beautiful, a stark contrast to the skimpy Tridentine ones pictured on the church's web site (the "liturgical norm"?) Are the ornaments in the video left over from an earlier regime at All Saints, or borrowed from elsewhere? The chanting and the Redford are impressive and rarely heard--I wish I could hear the organ better.
An "antiquarian" liturgy, yet a living liturgy, which connects us to our ancestors, to the saints, and to the historical church. Modern liturgies are often trendy, "horizontal", something that WE do for ourselves and God. Old liturgies are in a sense, "vertical", something that GOD does for us. We bend to their demands (not the other way around) and become connected corporately to something greater than ourselves. All senses are employed, and the ritual speaks to our heads AND hearts.
"Modern liturgies are often trendy, "horizontal", something that WE do for ourselves and God. Old liturgies are in a sense, "vertical", something that GOD does for us." SO very true. Well said.
I bet if this was the norm for the parish liturgy you'd probably have a lot of visitors and new members too, i know i would if i lived in York, Britain
A number of points. Firstly it is intended to be antiquarian, this is not the liturgical norm in the parish. The mass was intended to provide a feel for the liturgical heritage of the church. A couple of musical points. Yes the organ is more sweetly voiced than medieval organs, but it was all we had available. In terms of the schola, we probably had rather more singers than they had in the Middle Ages. This was a small parish church in one of the poorer parts of city.
Rather antiquarian. Liturgy is nicely done but I think the modern chest-organ sounds insipid an gives a pastel and slightly stoned 1970s early music revival feel to the whole thing. The 16th century organs that survive suggest much more vivid colours. That would bring this little scene to life! As would hearty singing from a large schola in the chant verses.
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Little difference in this case, liturgically. But the ecclesiology is all over the place.
None of these people are priests, of course according to Rome. And to the RC Church, the "blessed sacrament" being revered and adored in this video is nothing of the sort. It is a prop in an act of theatre.
It must be a source of constant frustration for the high-catholic Anglican clergyman, longing to be at one with a church that does not recognize his (never mind her) priesthood.
What strikes me though, is that I don't really think God (if such a thing exists) would mind either way -- or morever, the ceremonies are wonderful, regardless of what Rome or God thinks.
The Latin is so spiritually soothing. Nice visuals too.
BobP863 2 months ago
I'm sure there is an Orthodox bishop out there who would love to have such a beautiful western rite parish in their diocese... just saying...
invisoweasel 2 months ago
Ooh i'm Loveing this. I used to go to this church when I lived in York.
elton1981 2 months ago
is this valid? are they Roman Catholic priests?
luvpinas123 11 months ago
Dnload the audio from this song at tubepull doht cohm.
FieldCichon672 1 year ago
This is wonderful!
istgone 1 year ago
The organ sounds like a calliope!
pookerville 2 years ago
Especilly now with the Pope opening even wider the doors allowing you guys to come back. Please COME BACK!!!!!
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Return to Rome!
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago 8
Oh I so agree. Please go.
feliciter84 2 years ago
I agree with 1401JSC. Well done indeed! If this were still everyday Anglicanism, everywhere, I might still be Anglican today.
Thanks for posting this.
Toneytc 2 years ago
is this All saints North street?
anglocatholic1 2 years ago
Indeed it is, stripped of its baroque fittings.
Vitrearum 2 years ago
Everyone assumes his liturgical rôle with dignity and modesty. Well done.
1401JSC 2 years ago
Thank you. We are getting used to doing this sort of thing.
Vitrearum 2 years ago
@Vitrearum : It appears you are getting used to it. The English mediaeval style vestments and ornaments are beautiful, a stark contrast to the skimpy Tridentine ones pictured on the church's web site (the "liturgical norm"?) Are the ornaments in the video left over from an earlier regime at All Saints, or borrowed from elsewhere? The chanting and the Redford are impressive and rarely heard--I wish I could hear the organ better.
mudws 1 year ago
YES!!! They have a "Rood Screen"! Long Live Western Orthodoxy (ROCOR and WRV)
weirdschool 2 years ago
An "antiquarian" liturgy, yet a living liturgy, which connects us to our ancestors, to the saints, and to the historical church. Modern liturgies are often trendy, "horizontal", something that WE do for ourselves and God. Old liturgies are in a sense, "vertical", something that GOD does for us. We bend to their demands (not the other way around) and become connected corporately to something greater than ourselves. All senses are employed, and the ritual speaks to our heads AND hearts.
lichtbroeder 3 years ago 9
"Modern liturgies are often trendy, "horizontal", something that WE do for ourselves and God. Old liturgies are in a sense, "vertical", something that GOD does for us." SO very true. Well said.
Toneytc 2 years ago
I bet if this was the norm for the parish liturgy you'd probably have a lot of visitors and new members too, i know i would if i lived in York, Britain
TrainmasterCurt 3 years ago
This Church should seriously consider union with Rome. Has it heard of the Traditional Anglican Communion?
starchyp92 3 years ago
A number of points. Firstly it is intended to be antiquarian, this is not the liturgical norm in the parish. The mass was intended to provide a feel for the liturgical heritage of the church. A couple of musical points. Yes the organ is more sweetly voiced than medieval organs, but it was all we had available. In terms of the schola, we probably had rather more singers than they had in the Middle Ages. This was a small parish church in one of the poorer parts of city.
Vitrearum 3 years ago
It's Use of York or Ebor, according to the Pre-Tridentine Roman Catholic rite, celebrated in an Anglo-Catholic CofE parish in York, Britain
TrainmasterCurt 3 years ago
Rather antiquarian. Liturgy is nicely done but I think the modern chest-organ sounds insipid an gives a pastel and slightly stoned 1970s early music revival feel to the whole thing. The 16th century organs that survive suggest much more vivid colours. That would bring this little scene to life! As would hearty singing from a large schola in the chant verses.
maniplefringe 3 years ago
Its Catholic...*just* before the Reformation.
tm37gl 3 years ago
It's Anglican.
Vitrearum 3 years ago
What is the Anglican theology of the Eucharist that they should sign to It "O God"?
baldwalrus7 3 years ago
Very interesting.
Is this Roman Catholic or Anglican?
Caesarem89 3 years ago
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Little difference in this case, liturgically. But the ecclesiology is all over the place.
None of these people are priests, of course according to Rome. And to the RC Church, the "blessed sacrament" being revered and adored in this video is nothing of the sort. It is a prop in an act of theatre.
It must be a source of constant frustration for the high-catholic Anglican clergyman, longing to be at one with a church that does not recognize his (never mind her) priesthood.
feliciter84 2 years ago
@feliciter84
What strikes me though, is that I don't really think God (if such a thing exists) would mind either way -- or morever, the ceremonies are wonderful, regardless of what Rome or God thinks.
pajerosbc 1 year ago