Beautiful cause, beautiful speech but what a cunt of a man. What he once was, a truly independent thorn in the side of centre-right politics, but he's recently been supporting the regime in Iran.
Long live Gaza and West Bank: long live Palestine!
aslaam waley come,the jews claime that 6 milion's jews was killed in the second world war, but they dont say any thing about others that had been stamped with the star but was not jews. a jew is juda judge who wrights historys with snake fake tounge lie's on the ground and wiggles giggles behind closed door's, when 30 milions of nomads mosslims and gyipys had been killed with the help of the king of united kingdom and india.waley come salaam.
Did England bomb Belfast when IRA bombed London. NO!
Why does Israel bomb Gaza and kill thousands of innocent children and women? Because they are tyrant terrorist state with Zionist JudeoNazi Agenda!
Many great men have warned u about this Talmudic Terrorists, but u didnt listen! Read this book written by Ramsay (former MP in Great Britain) The Nameless war
Maybe the food critic obama can talk to them and they will hold hands and sing together or we should send blackwater to this protest to take care of our hamas problem.
@CheeseSavedMe If he become prime minister, the world will change. Thats why he wont be a prime minister. People in Britain are brainwashed enough to choose anyone else than those slave puppets who destroy England and force its people to become beggars. Though, they are happy for that, cuz they are utterly stupid.
Majority of the Britain nation is stupid! Thats why they are used like dogs to attack other countries.
the people in palestine are starving just like the people of ireland starved during the famine wen (great) britain could have helped with the situation. keep the faith
If Israel has no right to exist, then neither does "Palestine": the Jews took the land from the Canaanites, the Romans took it from the Jews, the Christians and Muslims handed it back and forth. Can Muslims kill little Jewish boys and girls who now live in the land, who had nothing to do with taking it, and can they do this until the end of time in the name of justice?
The truth is that Israel in the 60's was very much a country of progressives and fair minded people ..the kibbutz type society ...although I am a religious agnostic I could argue the biblical question of "what does it prophet a man...."....Israel lost it's soul to the bigoted zionist philosophy that has nothing to with religion. Simple solution 1948 or 1967 borders...Jerusalem/Al Quds as an independent state...borders - GUARANTEED - and protected by the UN.
Great comments Steve. Where are the Jewish socialist progressives these days? So many of the pioneers of trade union movements etc were Jewish. And through the curse of Zionism, Jews are associated with christian fundamentalists, who operate on the logic of my enemies enemy is my friend; essentially, the right wing hate Arabs more than Jews, so they cloak their anti semitic attitudes for the sake of pragmatism. Europeans persecuted Jews and the middle east were forced to bare the consequences.
As ever, its simply hopeless to try and talk sense with people like yourself. Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see the point i was making about the state of Palestine in terms of poverty through the exploitation of imperialism, the reason the country didn't have a developed infrastructure, and the fact that the European leaders and settler citizens who came to the country had the kind of financial resources and influence that the Palestinans didn't have.
The palestinians, rather than being given the support needed by every suffering, poverty stricken people, were made to expiate not only the crimes of the Nazis, but of the European Christian bigotry against the Jews. & you wonder why an organisation such as Hamas now exists.
Ha, i'm afraid he is. But he never went far with his concern for Palestinians really now did he? But being the "Middle East Peace Envoy" (!), he has to do some lying (well, we know he can do that better than most) and feign balance in the region that i suppose is his new "constituency". Blair famously said "there is no better friend to Israel that this country or this prime minister" a few years back. As GG himself once commented, "for once he wasn't lying" lol. Brown is just as pro Zionist btw.
Palestinians were incredibly poor and had been exploited for generations through unfair economic regulations through imperialism. The zionists were funded to the tune of millions of dollars worth of investment from guess who, not to mention the fact that the Zionist leaders were sophisticated and had been successful in the European business world.
so you blame the jews for being more successful than the arabs? why is it the jews fault that they're more successful? you're using the same propoganda that the nazis used before and during the holocaust. just like then, you blame the jews for everything, even though its the jews who are the victims
I'm now 25, and couldn't tell you the amount of marches i've been on and meetings i've attended and organised. How many have you been on i wonder. Or is it solely the fate Israeli's that concerns you, whilst everyone else can go hang. I suspect that with you that is very much the case.
Those who have been successfully marketed to, propagandized, cannot be reached. They are a mark for the Zionist con-man for life. No point at all is trying to use facts and common sense on them.
The mantra which comes back from the Zionists is always that Israel needs to defend herself. Israel perhaps does, but why might that be? Zionists cleverly play on the historic bigotry against Jews but in this context the cap doesn't fit. The prejudece exisisted alright, but in Europe, not the middle east, and amongst christians, not muslims. Until Zionist terrorists drove Palestinians out of their own country and into miserable exile, anti semitism was not an issue in the region.
And be wary of incorrect or out of context quotations. Zionists do love 'em, notably Mark Twain and Martin Luther King jnr. The mendacity with which historical events are reshaped to fit the mould is quite dazzling in its own way. I particularly love the one about Palestine being basically empty, thats always good for a laugh. Not many reach for the old Biblical rights arguement these days, that ones dying out it seems. I think that a change will come, it has to. The injustice cannot continue.
if palestine was as you claim, where did all their cities disappear to? did the jews take over their cities? all the cities in israel were built by the jews. the palestinians had only villages, no roads no infrastucture, no trees. they were basically living in the desert
Every true person of the Jewish faith should distance themselves from Zionism and become once again part of the avant garde of progressive society. We need men like Karl Marx and the great Jewish socialist thinkers of that age now more than ever.
And from that you equate my arguement with that of a Nazi propergandist. I'll try not to be to insulted but there is a part of me really rather hurt and angry i must say. I've been involved with anti racism and anti homophobia campaign organisations since i was 15 years old.
2 years ago israel left gaza thinking it would end the hostilities with gaza. the result: hamas took over and established a dictatorship, and has since been firing rockets at civilian population in israel every day. israel has no choice but to try to prevent these attacks. if gaza stops shooting israel would stop as well.
They left Gaza? Really? They did not control all access into and out of Gaza? They did not continue to collect the taxes in Gaza? They did not stop re-distributing the taxes when gaza elected Hamas officials? They did not arm Fatah and back an armed revolt against the Govt elected by the people of Gaza? They did not periodically enter Gaza with tanks and bulldozers?
no they didn't. israel left gaza's border with egypt. meaning that, if egypt wanted to, gaza could have free passage to egypt. egypt doesn't allow that and for that the palestinians blame israel. and by the way israel is STILL supplying almost all the needs of the people in gaza, including water, electricity, food, medicine, treatment in israeli hospitals, fuel, construction materials.. all those things israel keeps supplying despite the fact that hamas keeps attacking israel.
even if the founding of israel was immoral (in which case the USA is even worst and you should get out and give the land back to the indians), the citizens of israel of today are not to blame for what their grandparents did (retaking the jewish land after witnessing the holocaust). most israelis were BORN in israel. so its their land and they have nowhere else to go. they have the right to defend their country and their lives. you would be doing the same thing if you were born an israeli.
No, the citizens of Israel are only guilty of allowing their elected leaders to push them around using fear and racism to allow the continued imperialism and human rights abuses
in case you didn't notice the elected hamas party made a military takeover of the government in gaza and took over as a dictatorship, killing all the palestinians that opposed them. when do you think the next free election will be? answer is never, as long as hamas is in power. hitler was also democratically elected, it didn't make him any less of a dictator since he abolished democracy after he used it to his own end. exact same thing happened with hamas and now hizbulla in lebanon
Why would they need a military takeover if they were elected? Think about it. Because Israel did not like the fact they won and armed and supported a violent overthrow of Hamas -- which failed. And now all we hear is Hamas took over militarily. Israel is the dictator, not Hamas. Get your analogies right
you seem to be confused over the definitions and differences of dictatorship and democracy. israel is a democracy and even israeli arabs (20% of the citizens are arabs) get to vote and there are arabs as parlament members and even ministers. there is equality and freedom to all minority groups in israel including race and religion. in gaza there is a dictatorship of radical muslim terrorists which killed its opposition and opponents to take total control of the government.
they voted for hamas and now they're paying for it because hamas is taking them down a road that will lead them to destruction. just like hitler led germany into destruction
there was no trouble until hamas started firing rockets on israeli cities. they managed to get those rockets from iran thanks to the 'freedom' they now have since israel is no longer guarding their border with egypt
hamas makes it clear in their speeches that what they want is the total destruction of israel and taking over ALL of the land. they even say they'll haunt down the jews even after they run away.
how do you expect israel to negotiate with an enemy that openly declares they want to destroy all of israel?
do you think israel should just sit back and take all the rocket attacks and do nothing to protect its people?
You couldn't be more wrong. Hamas represents the Palestinian people -- they were elected. When Carter visited, they agreed to recognize Israel and to put an end to the violence if Israel would negotiate. Israel, of course, refused. They don't seek peace, they seek domination.
get your facts straight right after carter left, hamas denied what carter said, and said again that they will never recognize israel. they speak exactly the same way as Bin Laden does, when he calls for killing all the jews and retaking their land. Hamas' ideology is identical to that of Al-Quaeda. and guess what, the united states is on their list as well. their immediate concern is israel but they would love to destroy the US as well. that's why they were dancing and celebrating after 911
Why do you believe the lies of the Zionists? Hamas never denied what they said to Carter? The US is only on the "list" because of their puppet like loyalty to their Israel masters thanks to the Lobby.
Hamas is listed as a terrorist organization by the European Union, Australia, United Kingdom, and many more.
Canada describes Hamas as a "a radical Sunni Muslim terrorist organization"
even Jordan has banned Hamas.
Human Rights Watch stated that Hamas' leaders "should be held accountable for the war crimes and crimes against humanity" that have been committed by its members.
Human Rights Watch has cited a number of summary executions as particular examples of violations of the rules of warfare by Hamas, including the case of Muhammad Swairki, 28, a cook for Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's presidential guard, who was thrown to his death, with his hands and legs tied, from a 15-story apartment building in Gaza City.
the UN is biased against israel and is critisizing it unfairly, mostly because of arab pressure. meanwhile in darfur and other places millions of people are being killed by muslim terror and no one hears about that
the difference between israel and hamas is that israel is trying to spare innocents, while hamas targets them, and uses their own civilians as shields to exploit israel's reluctance to use force in civilian areas and to paint themselves as the victims and israel as the agressor.
if you check the facts instead of just listening to liars like galloway you'll see that most of the killed palestinians were armed terrorists. the exact ratio is 1 civilian for every 12 terrorists killed. and civilians are dying only because Hamas uses their own civilians as human shields. sending their kids wto pick up rocket launchers and so on. there are documented evidence that prove all that. all you have to do is search for it
If you actually watched two seconds of unbiased new you would know about the hundreds of children killed in Gaza. If you pulled your head out of the Israeli gutter of propaganda you would know. Please enlighten me with this "documented evidence" that you seem to have acquired.
if it wasn't for Hamas the palestinians would have had their own state by now. israel is prepared to let them have a state. but no progress will be made until the palestinians stop their attacks. so as long as they fight they will only make it worst for themselves.
israel exists, its a fact that can never be undone. if you want the arabs to have peace with israel you should convince them to stop using violence, otherwise it will only bring harm to them because israel will always win
Hamas has only been in power for two years. If Israel wanted to give Palestinians their own state they would've done so already. Palestine used to exist until they wiped it off the map I don't see why the same couldn't happen with Israel. Finally Israel would always win? Thats a laugh especially since Hezballah disproved that only two summers ago.
Yes because the influence of the Arabs is much greater than the American influence in the UN. The problem in Darfur is between the Nomadics and the Pastorals it has nothing to do with "Muslim Terror" as you so eloquently stated. I don't blame you for not knowing what with the full fledged media campaigns your "unbiased" media corporations are running.
arab influence is much more powerful than the jewish one, because the entire world needs oil and jews have no oil. in darfur muslims are murdering millions of non-muslims. the same thing would happen to the jews if they surrender and fall under muslim rule. the media in israel and america isn't run by the government, unlike in the arab world where all media is directly controlled by the dictatorial governments and free thinkers are censored. in syria a blogger was just arrested for speaking up
In the UN most Arab countries, the depend solely on foreign aids from America so trust me on this in the UN they will most probably side with America the Nation with the VETO No media corporations aren't run by the government they are run by right wing and Zionist lobbyists.You seem to cling on to that false impression of what is occurring in Darfur. And no the same won't occur in a liberated Palestine sincea hundred years ago Jews and Arabs lived peacefully side by side before theZionists came.
Also on the Darfur conflict "Scarce natural resources are a cause of fightings among the people of the largely nomadic north of Darfur and the farmers who inhabit the south" does that seem very religious to you?
hamas leaders are constantly saying that they would never recognize israel, that they would drive the jews away from the land and keep haunting them even after they are gone.
Do you think israel somehow forces Hamas to say things they don't want to say?
hamas openly talks about killing all jews everywhere, not just wiping israel off the map. they teach their children to hate jews and americans. israelis don't teach their children to hate arabs. israelis don't celebrate when arabs die. but arabs celebrate when jews die. jews teach their children to cherish life, arabs teach their kids to seek death and murder. does that really seem right to you?
It does not seem credible to me. Although, those oppressed by the Zionists in Gaza and the West Bank I am sure have hatred for their oppressors -- who wouldn't?
their hatred did just appear because they were 'oppressed'. israel never attacked them before they started attacking. there were no walls around their towns until they started sending suicide bombers. their hatred begun because they've all been brainwashed by their religious leaders. this is not a fight for freedom (as the withdrawl from gaza proved). its a fight to kill the jews in the name of allah. and its not my words, its their own. just look for it and you will see its true
There was no Israel until the Zionist leaders came marching in. What about the massacres that they committed in the villages? Was that not enough to create Arab animosity towards them? How about the fact that they declared a country on someone else's soil? Its very easy to blame Islamic religion these days and to say that we started the aggression when in fact the Zionist colonizers were the ones who started this affair.
the arabs started the war! there would have been no war if they accepted the UN plan to split the land (which did not belong to either side up until then). the jews agreed to it the arabs did not and tried to destroy israel and failed. they didn't learn their lesson and have kept attacking israel ever since. israel just defends itself from their agression. until they stop attacking israel will just fight back and will give them nothin
THe land belonged to the Arabs for thousands of years. They had lived there under the Ottomans, the Abbaseen, the Ummayeen. European Zionists a movement that started only a hundred years earlier tried to colonize this land using a religious pretext. Arabs have been defending their right to survive in their OWN country for the past 60 years and will continue to do so.
you're forgetting that the land used to belong to the jews for thousands of years. they were removed by force and had finally returned to a barren land! there were only a few thousand arabs living there in a dry desert land until the jews started coming. the arabs saw this and started their own colonization and tried to keep the jews from coming to reclaim the land. the jews made the land flourish. the arabs had 2000 years to colonize the land and they didn't
whatever israel has done, it did to protect itself because its the arabs who tried to kill and drive out all the jews.
the jews were willing to live side by side with the arabs. the arabs were not. they tried to use force to take all the land but their plan backfired and for that they've paid the price. and they'll keep paying the price as long as they fight israel. if they'll stop fighting it they'll be surprised at how much israel would be prepared to give them for peace
While "protecting itself", it has managed to greatly expand its territory, get caught spying on the USA, murder tens of thousands on innocents. They are protecting themselves much as germany was when it invaded Poland in the 1930s. Wake up.
how dare you compare israel with nazi germany. germany killed millions of people who did nothing to it. poland never attacked germany. the jews didn't blow themselves up in german restauraunts. the germans rounded up the jews for absolutely no reason and murdered them and even then the jews didn't kill any german civilians.
if israel was like nazi germany the palestinians would have all been dead long ago. and israel could have done it in a second if it wanted to. remember that
Because their actions are comparable. Not identical, comparable. Israel and their puppet launch imperial wars based on the lie of self defense, just as the nazis did.
The big difference is that Israel has only a few million people and is surrounded by the hundreds of millions they have pissed off. They can not quite murder with the same impunity that the Nazis did
the IDF doesn't deliberately murder innocents. they target only militants. the IDF has strict rules, and if a soldier kills a civilian he stands trial and goes to jail. in Hamas if someone manages to kill a bunch of israeli civilians he's louded as a hero, even if he murdered a class full of small children as happened recently. most of the palestinian deaths are caused directly by the terrorists, and if they wouldn't hid rockets and bombs in their homes it wouldn't happen
Of course they do. They bomb houses filled with people. They bulldoze occupied homes. They shoot people point blank. How absurd to believe that the IDF kills thousands of people by accident. Why do you believe the israel pr machine when their actions speak for themselves?
if that house had rockets fired from it, than its no longer a civilian house. its a military base that is aiming rockets at civilian areas in israel, so israel has every right to destroy it. israel never demolished a house for no reason.
the palestinians don't shoot at military bases, they shoot at towns, schools and hospitals on purpose! tyring to kill as many people as they can. but they're only making it worst for themselves. they'll never be able to break israel by terror.
Who says the houses had rockets fired from them? When an Israeli gunboat fired a missile and blew up a Palestinian family having a picnic on the beach on live TV, was that Israel doing all they could to avoid civilians deaths? Wake up. Stop believing the Zionist nonsense. Stop making excuses for evil.
it was proven that that incident was actually a kasam rocket which landed in the wrong place. there are many incidents that the palestinians blame on israel which actually they themselves did. like that incident with the father and boy who got shot it was proved by international investigators that it wasn't done by the IDF. there are countless incidents like this. the palestinian death tall is also greatly exagġerated, as very often a man who is reported dead later turns out to be alive
And there are infinitely more incidents in which the Israelis in fact were responsible for the violence. Why make excuses for the side that kills so many more innocents and wages wars of aggression? Why not be on the side of the victimized? On the side of the angels?
how can you justify the suicide bombings in buses and public places? isn't that a massacre when someone deliberately blows up a bus or a building full of civilians? and when that happens do they feel sorry for it, no they celebrate when innocent people die.
israel is the victim. the arabs are the agressors who cleverly make it look like they're the victim. israel ended the gaza occupation and they still attacked israel. its not a guerilla war, its a terror attack against civilians
you simply don't know the facts. the israelis live under terror of daily rocket attacks. they constantly hear sirens many times a day and have to hide in shelters. because of the siren warning few people are killed, but hundreds of thousands of people live under constant fear. they never know when or where a rocket would hit. the palestinian civilians don't live under that kind of terror. they know israel doesn't randomly bomb their cities.
The Palis in Gaza and the West Bank live under israel terrorism ten times that the Israelis live under. But you don't care about arabs in your racist attitude. You care about the death of one innocent Israel but don't give a crap about the death of 100 innocent Palis.
before the palestinians started using terror they weren't being opressed. there were no road blocks and walls before. those things were set up to defend israel from their terror attacks. so its all their own fault
See what I mean. Hell, before Israel ethnically cleansed 750,000 Palis there was no PLO, before they stole Gaza and the W Bank there was no Hamas, before they invaded and occupied lebanon, there was no PLO.
that's just a lia. the PLO already existed in lebanon, constantly attacking the north of israel. israel didn't invade lebanon because it wanted to conquer its land but to stop the terror attacks by the PLO.
israel gave back the sinai landmass to egypt and wanted to give back gaza as well, but egypt didn't want to take back gaza cause they knew they were trouble. and you know how jordan dealed with their palestinian aprising. they killed much more of them than israel ever did
Exactly 60 years ago the Israelis were in the process of destroying 435 Arab villages and towns. In a one-year period in 1948-1949 they wiped out over 400 Arab villages, either killing all the inhabitants or driving them off their land. They then either demolished the houses or took them over for Jewish use. This was exactly 60 years ago.
They are not much better today,since they are pretty much still doing the same thing although on a reduced scale
The creation of the state of Israel through terrorist activity, the way it has flung its weight around in the region since, the "special" relationship with the US, the appalling conditions in the West Bank; these are the reasons why Israel is so hated not only in the middle east, but in the hearts and minds of every civilized person.
IDF has videos that prove that both hamas and hizbulla fire rockets from within civilian areas, deliberately so that israel won't attack those places and if it does attack they'll call it a massacre. its all part of their strategy against israel.
you probably don't know this but israel actually pays compensations to palestinian civilians whos houses have suffered collateral damage. israel treats injured and sick palestinians in israel's hospitals. israel is supplying them with free medicine and other aid. you didn't know that, did you?
but they're not occupied! israel LEFT gaza completely. they also left gaza's border with egypt. israel redrew back to the 1967 borders with egypt (when gaza was part of egypt). so there is no occupation. there is also no 'siege' as they call it. israel is not obligated to supply anything to gaza when gaza is firing rockets to israel. they can get anything they need from egypt. if egypt doesn't give them what they want you should comlain to egypt, not to israel
why do they focus on "israel"? b/c they are the ones killing innocent people and commiting genocide on the arab population. please get a history lesson. Hamas didnt come about until after 1987. thats 40 years after the zionist theft of palestine.
the west expects the arabs to "recognize" the zionist state. i would only recognize theives an theives, not as legitimate occupants. theives do not have a "right to exist". if zionists want to "exist" in a free palestine they are more than welcome.
65 humanitarian aid trucks carrying baby food, agricultural produce, meat & fish, hygienic products, milk products, salt & sugar, medical equipment and medicines, oil, flour and yeast were transferred to the Gaza Strip via the Sufa crossing point.
In addition, 65 people (patients and companions) crossed into Israel from the Gaza Strip for medical treatment via Erez crossing.
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i did not use propoganda. i was merely stating a fact that galloway is a liar and a demagog because what he's saying is a lie. israel left gaza over 2 years ago, there is no occupatino there, but hamas is stil firing rockets at israel's cities, deliberately targeting civilians
strange that those reports always only focus on israel, while there are real genocides happening in the world. they ignore all those crimes and focus only on israel. why do you think that is?
its true that israel accidently harms civilians (that's what happens in war, especially when the other side uses its own population as human shields) but there are places in the world where people are being killed on much bigger scale but no one cares about that.
My friend your information is based on words of news papers not reality; have u ever asked any palestinian what is going on there. You might be shocked.
i just heard on the news that a rocket from gaza hit a mall in a nearby israeli city, killing and wounding dozens of people.
they deliberately fire on civilian population deliberatly trying to kill as many people as possible. nothing can justify that. israel is only responding to such attacks by targeting armed militants
Did U hear the news about IDF murdering 130 gazans a few week-ends ago? While "nothing can justify that" when it comes to Hamas wounding dozens of people, there is always some bs justification for Israel's murder of thousands
that attack (which was not aimed at civilians) came only in response to a deadly rocket barrage on israel. most of the dead palestinians were militants and the civilian casualties were a result of the explosives that those militants carried. there are IDF videos that prove that
Beautiful cause, beautiful speech but what a cunt of a man. What he once was, a truly independent thorn in the side of centre-right politics, but he's recently been supporting the regime in Iran.
Long live Gaza and West Bank: long live Palestine!
MrSovetski 8 months ago
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there is no such place nor country called palestine.
TheGrrrrr969 1 year ago
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goerge galloway is a bellend who supports terrorism.
Fishmongerabc123 2 years ago
aslaam waley come,the jews claime that 6 milion's jews was killed in the second world war, but they dont say any thing about others that had been stamped with the star but was not jews. a jew is juda judge who wrights historys with snake fake tounge lie's on the ground and wiggles giggles behind closed door's, when 30 milions of nomads mosslims and gyipys had been killed with the help of the king of united kingdom and india.waley come salaam.
seyeeyes 3 years ago
borg stop talking like ur from the bog
RealGeorgeGalloway 3 years ago
HEY EVERYONE!!
George Galloway has seen the light!!
Lilia1992 3 years ago
Did England bomb Belfast when IRA bombed London. NO!
Why does Israel bomb Gaza and kill thousands of innocent children and women? Because they are tyrant terrorist state with Zionist JudeoNazi Agenda!
Many great men have warned u about this Talmudic Terrorists, but u didnt listen! Read this book written by Ramsay (former MP in Great Britain) The Nameless war
ForHumanityOnly 3 years ago
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Maybe the food critic obama can talk to them and they will hold hands and sing together or we should send blackwater to this protest to take care of our hamas problem.
wiferachel 3 years ago
HA! he'd get my vote for prime minister ANYDAY!
CheeseSavedMe 3 years ago 12
Same!
Lilia1992 3 years ago
@CheeseSavedMe If he become prime minister, the world will change. Thats why he wont be a prime minister. People in Britain are brainwashed enough to choose anyone else than those slave puppets who destroy England and force its people to become beggars. Though, they are happy for that, cuz they are utterly stupid.
Majority of the Britain nation is stupid! Thats why they are used like dogs to attack other countries.
FarhadTv 1 year ago
the people in palestine are starving just like the people of ireland starved during the famine wen (great) britain could have helped with the situation. keep the faith
kevinbigman1 3 years ago
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If Israel has no right to exist, then neither does "Palestine": the Jews took the land from the Canaanites, the Romans took it from the Jews, the Christians and Muslims handed it back and forth. Can Muslims kill little Jewish boys and girls who now live in the land, who had nothing to do with taking it, and can they do this until the end of time in the name of justice?
GeorgeGaIIoway 3 years ago
If we (the western world) choose to interfere in the politics of the Middle East we have to interfere as HONEST brokers...
Dundee1961 3 years ago 5
The truth is that Israel in the 60's was very much a country of progressives and fair minded people ..the kibbutz type society ...although I am a religious agnostic I could argue the biblical question of "what does it prophet a man...."....Israel lost it's soul to the bigoted zionist philosophy that has nothing to with religion. Simple solution 1948 or 1967 borders...Jerusalem/Al Quds as an independent state...borders - GUARANTEED - and protected by the UN.
Dundee1961 3 years ago
Great comments Steve. Where are the Jewish socialist progressives these days? So many of the pioneers of trade union movements etc were Jewish. And through the curse of Zionism, Jews are associated with christian fundamentalists, who operate on the logic of my enemies enemy is my friend; essentially, the right wing hate Arabs more than Jews, so they cloak their anti semitic attitudes for the sake of pragmatism. Europeans persecuted Jews and the middle east were forced to bare the consequences.
scottyboisb 3 years ago 2
As ever, its simply hopeless to try and talk sense with people like yourself. Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see the point i was making about the state of Palestine in terms of poverty through the exploitation of imperialism, the reason the country didn't have a developed infrastructure, and the fact that the European leaders and settler citizens who came to the country had the kind of financial resources and influence that the Palestinans didn't have.
steve62482 3 years ago
The palestinians, rather than being given the support needed by every suffering, poverty stricken people, were made to expiate not only the crimes of the Nazis, but of the European Christian bigotry against the Jews. & you wonder why an organisation such as Hamas now exists.
steve62482 3 years ago
Is that Lying snake blair still feigning concern over palestine.
kalcom2 3 years ago
Ha, i'm afraid he is. But he never went far with his concern for Palestinians really now did he? But being the "Middle East Peace Envoy" (!), he has to do some lying (well, we know he can do that better than most) and feign balance in the region that i suppose is his new "constituency". Blair famously said "there is no better friend to Israel that this country or this prime minister" a few years back. As GG himself once commented, "for once he wasn't lying" lol. Brown is just as pro Zionist btw.
steve62482 3 years ago
Palestinians were incredibly poor and had been exploited for generations through unfair economic regulations through imperialism. The zionists were funded to the tune of millions of dollars worth of investment from guess who, not to mention the fact that the Zionist leaders were sophisticated and had been successful in the European business world.
steve62482 3 years ago
so you blame the jews for being more successful than the arabs? why is it the jews fault that they're more successful? you're using the same propoganda that the nazis used before and during the holocaust. just like then, you blame the jews for everything, even though its the jews who are the victims
BorgHub 3 years ago
I'm now 25, and couldn't tell you the amount of marches i've been on and meetings i've attended and organised. How many have you been on i wonder. Or is it solely the fate Israeli's that concerns you, whilst everyone else can go hang. I suspect that with you that is very much the case.
steve62482 3 years ago
George owns Israel.
NukeFascistAmerica 3 years ago
Those who have been successfully marketed to, propagandized, cannot be reached. They are a mark for the Zionist con-man for life. No point at all is trying to use facts and common sense on them.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
The mantra which comes back from the Zionists is always that Israel needs to defend herself. Israel perhaps does, but why might that be? Zionists cleverly play on the historic bigotry against Jews but in this context the cap doesn't fit. The prejudece exisisted alright, but in Europe, not the middle east, and amongst christians, not muslims. Until Zionist terrorists drove Palestinians out of their own country and into miserable exile, anti semitism was not an issue in the region.
steve62482 3 years ago
And be wary of incorrect or out of context quotations. Zionists do love 'em, notably Mark Twain and Martin Luther King jnr. The mendacity with which historical events are reshaped to fit the mould is quite dazzling in its own way. I particularly love the one about Palestine being basically empty, thats always good for a laugh. Not many reach for the old Biblical rights arguement these days, that ones dying out it seems. I think that a change will come, it has to. The injustice cannot continue.
steve62482 3 years ago
if palestine was as you claim, where did all their cities disappear to? did the jews take over their cities? all the cities in israel were built by the jews. the palestinians had only villages, no roads no infrastucture, no trees. they were basically living in the desert
BorgHub 3 years ago
Every true person of the Jewish faith should distance themselves from Zionism and become once again part of the avant garde of progressive society. We need men like Karl Marx and the great Jewish socialist thinkers of that age now more than ever.
steve62482 3 years ago
And from that you equate my arguement with that of a Nazi propergandist. I'll try not to be to insulted but there is a part of me really rather hurt and angry i must say. I've been involved with anti racism and anti homophobia campaign organisations since i was 15 years old.
steve62482 3 years ago
2 years ago israel left gaza thinking it would end the hostilities with gaza. the result: hamas took over and established a dictatorship, and has since been firing rockets at civilian population in israel every day. israel has no choice but to try to prevent these attacks. if gaza stops shooting israel would stop as well.
BorgHub 3 years ago
They left Gaza? Really? They did not control all access into and out of Gaza? They did not continue to collect the taxes in Gaza? They did not stop re-distributing the taxes when gaza elected Hamas officials? They did not arm Fatah and back an armed revolt against the Govt elected by the people of Gaza? They did not periodically enter Gaza with tanks and bulldozers?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
no they didn't. israel left gaza's border with egypt. meaning that, if egypt wanted to, gaza could have free passage to egypt. egypt doesn't allow that and for that the palestinians blame israel. and by the way israel is STILL supplying almost all the needs of the people in gaza, including water, electricity, food, medicine, treatment in israeli hospitals, fuel, construction materials.. all those things israel keeps supplying despite the fact that hamas keeps attacking israel.
BorgHub 3 years ago
Did it ever occur to that the Israelis maybe get the blame cause they are guilty? That maybe, just maybe, the victims know who the perps are?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
even if the founding of israel was immoral (in which case the USA is even worst and you should get out and give the land back to the indians), the citizens of israel of today are not to blame for what their grandparents did (retaking the jewish land after witnessing the holocaust). most israelis were BORN in israel. so its their land and they have nowhere else to go. they have the right to defend their country and their lives. you would be doing the same thing if you were born an israeli.
BorgHub 3 years ago
No, the citizens of Israel are only guilty of allowing their elected leaders to push them around using fear and racism to allow the continued imperialism and human rights abuses
oldjoe5 3 years ago
in case you didn't notice the elected hamas party made a military takeover of the government in gaza and took over as a dictatorship, killing all the palestinians that opposed them. when do you think the next free election will be? answer is never, as long as hamas is in power. hitler was also democratically elected, it didn't make him any less of a dictator since he abolished democracy after he used it to his own end. exact same thing happened with hamas and now hizbulla in lebanon
BorgHub 3 years ago
Why would they need a military takeover if they were elected? Think about it. Because Israel did not like the fact they won and armed and supported a violent overthrow of Hamas -- which failed. And now all we hear is Hamas took over militarily. Israel is the dictator, not Hamas. Get your analogies right
oldjoe5 3 years ago
you seem to be confused over the definitions and differences of dictatorship and democracy. israel is a democracy and even israeli arabs (20% of the citizens are arabs) get to vote and there are arabs as parlament members and even ministers. there is equality and freedom to all minority groups in israel including race and religion. in gaza there is a dictatorship of radical muslim terrorists which killed its opposition and opponents to take total control of the government.
BorgHub 3 years ago
Lots of people get to vote in the Occupied areas, do they? They all got to vote in Gaza.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
they voted for hamas and now they're paying for it because hamas is taking them down a road that will lead them to destruction. just like hitler led germany into destruction
BorgHub 3 years ago
I can see the Zionist ideal of democracy -- vote for who we want or it will be trouble for you. Is this how they "completely" withdrew from Gaza?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
there was no trouble until hamas started firing rockets on israeli cities. they managed to get those rockets from iran thanks to the 'freedom' they now have since israel is no longer guarding their border with egypt
BorgHub 3 years ago
You don't know the actual timeline, do you?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
1. israel left gaza hoping to end all hostilities.
2. hamas took over and started firing rockets.
3. israel retaliates and starts limiting supplies.
4. hamas trying to make it look like they're the victims and stupid ignorant people are buying into their propoganda
BorgHub 3 years ago
hamas makes it clear in their speeches that what they want is the total destruction of israel and taking over ALL of the land. they even say they'll haunt down the jews even after they run away.
how do you expect israel to negotiate with an enemy that openly declares they want to destroy all of israel?
do you think israel should just sit back and take all the rocket attacks and do nothing to protect its people?
BorgHub 3 years ago
You couldn't be more wrong. Hamas represents the Palestinian people -- they were elected. When Carter visited, they agreed to recognize Israel and to put an end to the violence if Israel would negotiate. Israel, of course, refused. They don't seek peace, they seek domination.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
get your facts straight right after carter left, hamas denied what carter said, and said again that they will never recognize israel. they speak exactly the same way as Bin Laden does, when he calls for killing all the jews and retaking their land. Hamas' ideology is identical to that of Al-Quaeda. and guess what, the united states is on their list as well. their immediate concern is israel but they would love to destroy the US as well. that's why they were dancing and celebrating after 911
BorgHub 3 years ago
Why do you believe the lies of the Zionists? Hamas never denied what they said to Carter? The US is only on the "list" because of their puppet like loyalty to their Israel masters thanks to the Lobby.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
Hamas is listed as a terrorist organization by the European Union, Australia, United Kingdom, and many more.
Canada describes Hamas as a "a radical Sunni Muslim terrorist organization"
even Jordan has banned Hamas.
Human Rights Watch stated that Hamas' leaders "should be held accountable for the war crimes and crimes against humanity" that have been committed by its members.
BorgHub 3 years ago
Human Rights Watch has cited a number of summary executions as particular examples of violations of the rules of warfare by Hamas, including the case of Muhammad Swairki, 28, a cook for Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's presidential guard, who was thrown to his death, with his hands and legs tied, from a 15-story apartment building in Gaza City.
BorgHub 3 years ago
Israel has violated more UN resolutions than any other satte -- by far. Not even close
oldjoe5 3 years ago
the UN is biased against israel and is critisizing it unfairly, mostly because of arab pressure. meanwhile in darfur and other places millions of people are being killed by muslim terror and no one hears about that
BorgHub 3 years ago
Wow. You are well versed in all the ways in which Israel attempts to deflect attention away from their horrific humna rights abuses.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
and hamas doesn't violate human rights?
the difference between israel and hamas is that israel is trying to spare innocents, while hamas targets them, and uses their own civilians as shields to exploit israel's reluctance to use force in civilian areas and to paint themselves as the victims and israel as the agressor.
BorgHub 3 years ago
No, the differene is that Israel kills way more civilians. Their claims that they are trying to spare innocents is absurd.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
if you check the facts instead of just listening to liars like galloway you'll see that most of the killed palestinians were armed terrorists. the exact ratio is 1 civilian for every 12 terrorists killed. and civilians are dying only because Hamas uses their own civilians as human shields. sending their kids wto pick up rocket launchers and so on. there are documented evidence that prove all that. all you have to do is search for it
BorgHub 3 years ago
If you actually watched two seconds of unbiased new you would know about the hundreds of children killed in Gaza. If you pulled your head out of the Israeli gutter of propaganda you would know. Please enlighten me with this "documented evidence" that you seem to have acquired.
barabadwan2001 3 years ago
if it wasn't for Hamas the palestinians would have had their own state by now. israel is prepared to let them have a state. but no progress will be made until the palestinians stop their attacks. so as long as they fight they will only make it worst for themselves.
israel exists, its a fact that can never be undone. if you want the arabs to have peace with israel you should convince them to stop using violence, otherwise it will only bring harm to them because israel will always win
BorgHub 3 years ago
Hamas has only been in power for two years. If Israel wanted to give Palestinians their own state they would've done so already. Palestine used to exist until they wiped it off the map I don't see why the same couldn't happen with Israel. Finally Israel would always win? Thats a laugh especially since Hezballah disproved that only two summers ago.
barabadwan2001 3 years ago
Yes because the influence of the Arabs is much greater than the American influence in the UN. The problem in Darfur is between the Nomadics and the Pastorals it has nothing to do with "Muslim Terror" as you so eloquently stated. I don't blame you for not knowing what with the full fledged media campaigns your "unbiased" media corporations are running.
barabadwan2001 3 years ago
arab influence is much more powerful than the jewish one, because the entire world needs oil and jews have no oil. in darfur muslims are murdering millions of non-muslims. the same thing would happen to the jews if they surrender and fall under muslim rule. the media in israel and america isn't run by the government, unlike in the arab world where all media is directly controlled by the dictatorial governments and free thinkers are censored. in syria a blogger was just arrested for speaking up
BorgHub 3 years ago
In the UN most Arab countries, the depend solely on foreign aids from America so trust me on this in the UN they will most probably side with America the Nation with the VETO No media corporations aren't run by the government they are run by right wing and Zionist lobbyists.You seem to cling on to that false impression of what is occurring in Darfur. And no the same won't occur in a liberated Palestine sincea hundred years ago Jews and Arabs lived peacefully side by side before theZionists came.
barabadwan2001 3 years ago
Also on the Darfur conflict "Scarce natural resources are a cause of fightings among the people of the largely nomadic north of Darfur and the farmers who inhabit the south" does that seem very religious to you?
barabadwan2001 3 years ago
Zionist pressure.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
hamas leaders are constantly saying that they would never recognize israel, that they would drive the jews away from the land and keep haunting them even after they are gone.
Do you think israel somehow forces Hamas to say things they don't want to say?
BorgHub 3 years ago
Odd, I have never seen Hamas on any news show saying any of these things. Only Israelis saying Hamas says thes things.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
just type "hamas spokesman" here on youtube you will see for yourself plenty of examples of the things they're saying in their own words
BorgHub 3 years ago
Yes, and I hear not a word about wiping Israel off the face of the map
oldjoe5 3 years ago
hamas openly talks about killing all jews everywhere, not just wiping israel off the map. they teach their children to hate jews and americans. israelis don't teach their children to hate arabs. israelis don't celebrate when arabs die. but arabs celebrate when jews die. jews teach their children to cherish life, arabs teach their kids to seek death and murder. does that really seem right to you?
BorgHub 3 years ago
It does not seem credible to me. Although, those oppressed by the Zionists in Gaza and the West Bank I am sure have hatred for their oppressors -- who wouldn't?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
their hatred did just appear because they were 'oppressed'. israel never attacked them before they started attacking. there were no walls around their towns until they started sending suicide bombers. their hatred begun because they've all been brainwashed by their religious leaders. this is not a fight for freedom (as the withdrawl from gaza proved). its a fight to kill the jews in the name of allah. and its not my words, its their own. just look for it and you will see its true
BorgHub 3 years ago
There was no Israel until the Zionist leaders came marching in. What about the massacres that they committed in the villages? Was that not enough to create Arab animosity towards them? How about the fact that they declared a country on someone else's soil? Its very easy to blame Islamic religion these days and to say that we started the aggression when in fact the Zionist colonizers were the ones who started this affair.
barabadwan2001 3 years ago
the arabs started the war! there would have been no war if they accepted the UN plan to split the land (which did not belong to either side up until then). the jews agreed to it the arabs did not and tried to destroy israel and failed. they didn't learn their lesson and have kept attacking israel ever since. israel just defends itself from their agression. until they stop attacking israel will just fight back and will give them nothin
BorgHub 3 years ago
THe land belonged to the Arabs for thousands of years. They had lived there under the Ottomans, the Abbaseen, the Ummayeen. European Zionists a movement that started only a hundred years earlier tried to colonize this land using a religious pretext. Arabs have been defending their right to survive in their OWN country for the past 60 years and will continue to do so.
barabadwan2001 3 years ago
you're forgetting that the land used to belong to the jews for thousands of years. they were removed by force and had finally returned to a barren land! there were only a few thousand arabs living there in a dry desert land until the jews started coming. the arabs saw this and started their own colonization and tried to keep the jews from coming to reclaim the land. the jews made the land flourish. the arabs had 2000 years to colonize the land and they didn't
BorgHub 3 years ago
whatever israel has done, it did to protect itself because its the arabs who tried to kill and drive out all the jews.
the jews were willing to live side by side with the arabs. the arabs were not. they tried to use force to take all the land but their plan backfired and for that they've paid the price. and they'll keep paying the price as long as they fight israel. if they'll stop fighting it they'll be surprised at how much israel would be prepared to give them for peace
BorgHub 3 years ago
While "protecting itself", it has managed to greatly expand its territory, get caught spying on the USA, murder tens of thousands on innocents. They are protecting themselves much as germany was when it invaded Poland in the 1930s. Wake up.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
how dare you compare israel with nazi germany. germany killed millions of people who did nothing to it. poland never attacked germany. the jews didn't blow themselves up in german restauraunts. the germans rounded up the jews for absolutely no reason and murdered them and even then the jews didn't kill any german civilians.
if israel was like nazi germany the palestinians would have all been dead long ago. and israel could have done it in a second if it wanted to. remember that
BorgHub 3 years ago
Because their actions are comparable. Not identical, comparable. Israel and their puppet launch imperial wars based on the lie of self defense, just as the nazis did.
The big difference is that Israel has only a few million people and is surrounded by the hundreds of millions they have pissed off. They can not quite murder with the same impunity that the Nazis did
oldjoe5 3 years ago
How dare you justify the murder of innocent women and children by the IDF
oldjoe5 3 years ago
the IDF doesn't deliberately murder innocents. they target only militants. the IDF has strict rules, and if a soldier kills a civilian he stands trial and goes to jail. in Hamas if someone manages to kill a bunch of israeli civilians he's louded as a hero, even if he murdered a class full of small children as happened recently. most of the palestinian deaths are caused directly by the terrorists, and if they wouldn't hid rockets and bombs in their homes it wouldn't happen
BorgHub 3 years ago
Of course they do. They bomb houses filled with people. They bulldoze occupied homes. They shoot people point blank. How absurd to believe that the IDF kills thousands of people by accident. Why do you believe the israel pr machine when their actions speak for themselves?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
if that house had rockets fired from it, than its no longer a civilian house. its a military base that is aiming rockets at civilian areas in israel, so israel has every right to destroy it. israel never demolished a house for no reason.
the palestinians don't shoot at military bases, they shoot at towns, schools and hospitals on purpose! tyring to kill as many people as they can. but they're only making it worst for themselves. they'll never be able to break israel by terror.
BorgHub 3 years ago
Who says the houses had rockets fired from them? When an Israeli gunboat fired a missile and blew up a Palestinian family having a picnic on the beach on live TV, was that Israel doing all they could to avoid civilians deaths? Wake up. Stop believing the Zionist nonsense. Stop making excuses for evil.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
it was proven that that incident was actually a kasam rocket which landed in the wrong place. there are many incidents that the palestinians blame on israel which actually they themselves did. like that incident with the father and boy who got shot it was proved by international investigators that it wasn't done by the IDF. there are countless incidents like this. the palestinian death tall is also greatly exagġerated, as very often a man who is reported dead later turns out to be alive
BorgHub 3 years ago
And there are infinitely more incidents in which the Israelis in fact were responsible for the violence. Why make excuses for the side that kills so many more innocents and wages wars of aggression? Why not be on the side of the victimized? On the side of the angels?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
how can you justify the suicide bombings in buses and public places? isn't that a massacre when someone deliberately blows up a bus or a building full of civilians? and when that happens do they feel sorry for it, no they celebrate when innocent people die.
israel is the victim. the arabs are the agressors who cleverly make it look like they're the victim. israel ended the gaza occupation and they still attacked israel. its not a guerilla war, its a terror attack against civilians
BorgHub 3 years ago
You are beyond reason
oldjoe5 3 years ago
you simply don't know the facts. the israelis live under terror of daily rocket attacks. they constantly hear sirens many times a day and have to hide in shelters. because of the siren warning few people are killed, but hundreds of thousands of people live under constant fear. they never know when or where a rocket would hit. the palestinian civilians don't live under that kind of terror. they know israel doesn't randomly bomb their cities.
BorgHub 3 years ago
The Palis in Gaza and the West Bank live under israel terrorism ten times that the Israelis live under. But you don't care about arabs in your racist attitude. You care about the death of one innocent Israel but don't give a crap about the death of 100 innocent Palis.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
before the palestinians started using terror they weren't being opressed. there were no road blocks and walls before. those things were set up to defend israel from their terror attacks. so its all their own fault
BorgHub 3 years ago
See what I mean. Hell, before Israel ethnically cleansed 750,000 Palis there was no PLO, before they stole Gaza and the W Bank there was no Hamas, before they invaded and occupied lebanon, there was no PLO.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
that's just a lia. the PLO already existed in lebanon, constantly attacking the north of israel. israel didn't invade lebanon because it wanted to conquer its land but to stop the terror attacks by the PLO.
israel gave back the sinai landmass to egypt and wanted to give back gaza as well, but egypt didn't want to take back gaza cause they knew they were trouble. and you know how jordan dealed with their palestinian aprising. they killed much more of them than israel ever did
BorgHub 3 years ago
Exactly 60 years ago the Israelis were in the process of destroying 435 Arab villages and towns. In a one-year period in 1948-1949 they wiped out over 400 Arab villages, either killing all the inhabitants or driving them off their land. They then either demolished the houses or took them over for Jewish use. This was exactly 60 years ago.
They are not much better today,since they are pretty much still doing the same thing although on a reduced scale
THAT IS TERRORISM and Israel is good at it
Ramunited1 3 years ago
You don't know the facts, do you?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
The creation of the state of Israel through terrorist activity, the way it has flung its weight around in the region since, the "special" relationship with the US, the appalling conditions in the West Bank; these are the reasons why Israel is so hated not only in the middle east, but in the hearts and minds of every civilized person.
steve62482 3 years ago
IDF has videos that prove that both hamas and hizbulla fire rockets from within civilian areas, deliberately so that israel won't attack those places and if it does attack they'll call it a massacre. its all part of their strategy against israel.
BorgHub 3 years ago
you probably don't know this but israel actually pays compensations to palestinian civilians whos houses have suffered collateral damage. israel treats injured and sick palestinians in israel's hospitals. israel is supplying them with free medicine and other aid. you didn't know that, did you?
BorgHub 3 years ago
You are so misinformed no wonder your viewpoint is so askew.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
but they're not occupied! israel LEFT gaza completely. they also left gaza's border with egypt. israel redrew back to the 1967 borders with egypt (when gaza was part of egypt). so there is no occupation. there is also no 'siege' as they call it. israel is not obligated to supply anything to gaza when gaza is firing rockets to israel. they can get anything they need from egypt. if egypt doesn't give them what they want you should comlain to egypt, not to israel
BorgHub 3 years ago
why do they focus on "israel"? b/c they are the ones killing innocent people and commiting genocide on the arab population. please get a history lesson. Hamas didnt come about until after 1987. thats 40 years after the zionist theft of palestine.
the west expects the arabs to "recognize" the zionist state. i would only recognize theives an theives, not as legitimate occupants. theives do not have a "right to exist". if zionists want to "exist" in a free palestine they are more than welcome.
gibsun88 3 years ago
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May 13, 2008:
65 humanitarian aid trucks carrying baby food, agricultural produce, meat & fish, hygienic products, milk products, salt & sugar, medical equipment and medicines, oil, flour and yeast were transferred to the Gaza Strip via the Sufa crossing point.
In addition, 65 people (patients and companions) crossed into Israel from the Gaza Strip for medical treatment via Erez crossing.
avi087 3 years ago
Viva Hamas! Israelis deserve every death until they give Palestine back.
NukeFascistAmerica 3 years ago
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galloway sounds like a hamas spokesman. same lies and propoganda
BorgHub 3 years ago
mh, fitting nickname...
DoJaenin 3 years ago
So you attack what you see as propaganda with your own propaganda? Fail.
thecouchtripper 3 years ago
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i did not use propoganda. i was merely stating a fact that galloway is a liar and a demagog because what he's saying is a lie. israel left gaza over 2 years ago, there is no occupatino there, but hamas is stil firing rockets at israel's cities, deliberately targeting civilians
BorgHub 3 years ago
You don't even realise what you're doing. Fail.
thecouchtripper 3 years ago
read amnesty international report, then come and spew your shit.
rudey38 3 years ago
strange that those reports always only focus on israel, while there are real genocides happening in the world. they ignore all those crimes and focus only on israel. why do you think that is?
its true that israel accidently harms civilians (that's what happens in war, especially when the other side uses its own population as human shields) but there are places in the world where people are being killed on much bigger scale but no one cares about that.
its all about oil and pleasing the arabs
BorgHub 3 years ago
My friend your information is based on words of news papers not reality; have u ever asked any palestinian what is going on there. You might be shocked.
ahmedrazaqta 3 years ago
i just heard on the news that a rocket from gaza hit a mall in a nearby israeli city, killing and wounding dozens of people.
they deliberately fire on civilian population deliberatly trying to kill as many people as possible. nothing can justify that. israel is only responding to such attacks by targeting armed militants
BorgHub 3 years ago
Did U hear the news about IDF murdering 130 gazans a few week-ends ago? While "nothing can justify that" when it comes to Hamas wounding dozens of people, there is always some bs justification for Israel's murder of thousands
oldjoe5 3 years ago
that attack (which was not aimed at civilians) came only in response to a deadly rocket barrage on israel. most of the dead palestinians were militants and the civilian casualties were a result of the explosives that those militants carried. there are IDF videos that prove that
BorgHub 3 years ago
thanks for this, I'll link it on couchtripper.
thecouchtripper 3 years ago