For what it's worth, I thought that Penry1969's comments were a bit unfair as this is a decent demonstration of Press. This is a traditional demo used by several different schools of Taiji, so I don't think these guys can be "blamed" for it. Still, diparaging what others do seems to be the way of the Internet.
i noticed it works like electricity, if thee people are all holding hands, and the first person touched an electric fence, the last guy gets the biggest shock.
the man inbetween them is reasonble to fall... however..
the third to the last guy shouldn't fall so easily. although newtons law states that momentum must be conserved... the last guy basically didn't even try to catch himself..
no the way this works is as follows. The first guy gets his chest cavity pushed it, which causes him to leap back and push his friends over. The force moving them is not the force of the practitioners hands, but the force generated by the guy trying to escape a collapsed lung, which happens by spreading the palm and applying pressure instead of making a fist and breaking a rib, you combress all the ribs and force the reciever to jump back.
hahaha, nice, he used fa jin. that is the trick. with some practice, everyone can learn that. it's not that easy, but very impressive. with a real fa jin u can easily brake through ribs.
If you take on board that they collectively weigh 420kg then you're an idiot.
Each person has potential energy when they stand up. If you stand up a domino it has the stored potential energy to fall over with force enough to knock over the next domino. It's exactly like saying the push I use to knock over a domino, that then knocks over a million dominoes, must have had the internal energy of 8 metric tonnes.
I had a think about your comment and my honest reply is this; dominoes are neither sentient or capable of reaction to actions they also do not have any balance of their own, Human beings on the other hand can react to stimulus. when pressure applied to a group of humans in the above manner if the action is lacking in any real force the group will waver and stay where they are (I know cos when it doesn't work that is what happens),
Dominoes of like size and weight and packed as the above group of sentient human being are would take a monumental effort to push over.. Please make some and film you pushing them over like nothing I seriously dobt it would be so easy. But thanks for the comment I like skeptics :o) all the best
Your group even uses the old magician's trick of ideomotion suggestion with the dummy or "warm up" pushes at the beginning. You can see the stooges falling into rhythm in time with his movement. Another fun way to play with this is to put a crash mat behind someone without telling them why. This puts the idea of falling backwards into their mind without the conscious anaylsis of a vocal instruction. Sometimes you can even make them fall without touching them if the suggestion is strong enough.
but if you are using tricks to accomplish what you want how real is it? and lastly it is merely a DEMONSTRATION of the transferance of energy. if you have a problem with it then deal with it.
Your comments make it clear what you think it demonstrates. I have identified where the giveaways are; which someone who has experience of either tai chi or trickery can recognise. To me these giveaways contradict your comments. Not to mention the fact that this kind of demo has nothing to do with tai chi principles and is merely a good demo or why it is now considered a joke martial art around the world.
I don't check this thing regularly I have a life and as for truth well I think objective truth is not in your thoughts, comments or ego so grow up
as for magicians tricks I'm not into either magicians or tricks and as for your recent comments you are entitled to your opinion good luck mate but it doesn't make you right. And where is your video? as for it being so easy for you congratulations I'm really happy for you
I've recreated this and most of the other chi tricks you routinely see. It was as easy for me to do with 10+ years of training in Tai Chi as for a student at their second class.
I have recreated this and most of the other chi tricks you see. It was as easy for me with 10+ years of training in tai chi as it was for someone who had been training for less than a month.
I like the inclusion of he old magician's trick of pre-empting the move with the dummy strikes. You can see the stooges' reaction going through the row in rhythmical ripples in time with him. For further emphasis you can try putting a crash mat behind them, thus suggesting the fall without telling them.
Nothing very pecial, those guys are standing close to each other. Ever one can do that. Try get those guys to stand let say a shoulder length aprt....
It is a demonstration of Internal energy. the desired effect is to send the last people in the line up away first. If you take on board that the line up collectively weigh well over 420KG then you can see such a little effort on one end would not physically result in such a large movement the other.
its a form of fa jin which is an energy strike my sifu dus it miles beta than dis guy tho type in steve burton martial arts and look at the second 1 n then ull see it done properly
For what it's worth, I thought that Penry1969's comments were a bit unfair as this is a decent demonstration of Press. This is a traditional demo used by several different schools of Taiji, so I don't think these guys can be "blamed" for it. Still, diparaging what others do seems to be the way of the Internet.
granzy500 2 years ago
i noticed it works like electricity, if thee people are all holding hands, and the first person touched an electric fence, the last guy gets the biggest shock.
ToraQigong 2 years ago
Équivelent to walking up to a person standing sqaure and pushing them. Nothing special. ANYONE can do it.
weakperception 3 years ago
look at the third guy to the last .
and the last guy.
the man inbetween them is reasonble to fall... however..
the third to the last guy shouldn't fall so easily. although newtons law states that momentum must be conserved... the last guy basically didn't even try to catch himself..
with his legs.
what an idiot.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
no the way this works is as follows. The first guy gets his chest cavity pushed it, which causes him to leap back and push his friends over. The force moving them is not the force of the practitioners hands, but the force generated by the guy trying to escape a collapsed lung, which happens by spreading the palm and applying pressure instead of making a fist and breaking a rib, you combress all the ribs and force the reciever to jump back.
Isamright33 3 years ago
hahaha, nice, he used fa jin. that is the trick. with some practice, everyone can learn that. it's not that easy, but very impressive. with a real fa jin u can easily brake through ribs.
Schmidt54 3 years ago 2
:o) fair enough
seventhofeight 4 years ago
fake
penry1969 4 years ago
if you say so mate you are obviously an expert :o)))
seventhofeight 4 years ago
If you take on board that they collectively weigh 420kg then you're an idiot.
Each person has potential energy when they stand up. If you stand up a domino it has the stored potential energy to fall over with force enough to knock over the next domino. It's exactly like saying the push I use to knock over a domino, that then knocks over a million dominoes, must have had the internal energy of 8 metric tonnes.
penry1969 4 years ago
interesting comment but likewise why not try do it with the little amount of force used in this film... film it yourself and put it up for all to see
oh yes and for added measure try it on people who don't know what is going to happen. It really isn't as easy as you think :o)
seventhofeight 4 years ago
I had a think about your comment and my honest reply is this; dominoes are neither sentient or capable of reaction to actions they also do not have any balance of their own, Human beings on the other hand can react to stimulus. when pressure applied to a group of humans in the above manner if the action is lacking in any real force the group will waver and stay where they are (I know cos when it doesn't work that is what happens),
seventhofeight 4 years ago
Dominoes of like size and weight and packed as the above group of sentient human being are would take a monumental effort to push over.. Please make some and film you pushing them over like nothing I seriously dobt it would be so easy. But thanks for the comment I like skeptics :o) all the best
seventhofeight 4 years ago
Your group even uses the old magician's trick of ideomotion suggestion with the dummy or "warm up" pushes at the beginning. You can see the stooges falling into rhythm in time with his movement. Another fun way to play with this is to put a crash mat behind someone without telling them why. This puts the idea of falling backwards into their mind without the conscious anaylsis of a vocal instruction. Sometimes you can even make them fall without touching them if the suggestion is strong enough.
penry1969 4 years ago
but if you are using tricks to accomplish what you want how real is it? and lastly it is merely a DEMONSTRATION of the transferance of energy. if you have a problem with it then deal with it.
I couldn't give a S**t
seventhofeight 3 years ago
Your comments make it clear what you think it demonstrates. I have identified where the giveaways are; which someone who has experience of either tai chi or trickery can recognise. To me these giveaways contradict your comments. Not to mention the fact that this kind of demo has nothing to do with tai chi principles and is merely a good demo or why it is now considered a joke martial art around the world.
penry1969 3 years ago
I guess no more of my comments are going up.
The truth sucks doesn't it.
penry1969 4 years ago
I don't check this thing regularly I have a life and as for truth well I think objective truth is not in your thoughts, comments or ego so grow up
as for magicians tricks I'm not into either magicians or tricks and as for your recent comments you are entitled to your opinion good luck mate but it doesn't make you right. And where is your video? as for it being so easy for you congratulations I'm really happy for you
seventhofeight 3 years ago
I've recreated this and most of the other chi tricks you routinely see. It was as easy for me to do with 10+ years of training in Tai Chi as for a student at their second class.
penry1969 4 years ago
I have recreated this and most of the other chi tricks you see. It was as easy for me with 10+ years of training in tai chi as it was for someone who had been training for less than a month.
I like the inclusion of he old magician's trick of pre-empting the move with the dummy strikes. You can see the stooges' reaction going through the row in rhythmical ripples in time with him. For further emphasis you can try putting a crash mat behind them, thus suggesting the fall without telling them.
penry1969 4 years ago
Nothing very pecial, those guys are standing close to each other. Ever one can do that. Try get those guys to stand let say a shoulder length aprt....
toplist99 4 years ago
ok well why not try it yourself mate :o)
seventhofeight 4 years ago
It is a demonstration of Internal energy. the desired effect is to send the last people in the line up away first. If you take on board that the line up collectively weigh well over 420KG then you can see such a little effort on one end would not physically result in such a large movement the other.
seventhofeight 4 years ago
hey that looks pretty cool. what is that?
happywolf7 4 years ago
its a form of fa jin which is an energy strike my sifu dus it miles beta than dis guy tho type in steve burton martial arts and look at the second 1 n then ull see it done properly
mattclarkson26021 4 years ago
I checked out your chaps vid.
it's good he does a good strike much the same but we are demonstrating different things nonetheless he is good my regards to your Sifu
seventhofeight 4 years ago