The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending only occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the rim level and has the possibility of entering the basket. In my argument, because the ball is not on its downward flight it does not meet the conditions of Goaltending so no violation can occur. On most layups, the ball is going up after it contacts the backboard.
Rule 4-22: Goaltending (See rule book for exact language)
There are three conditions that must be present for a goaltending violation to occur. First, the ball must be above the rim when contacted by the defender. Second, the ball must be on its downward flight when contacted by the defender. Finally, the ball must have a chance to go in. If one of those conditions is missing from a play, a goaltending violation cannot occur (NFHS 4-22; NCAA 4-34).
It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. It is also legal to hang on the ring if a player is avoiding an injury to himself or herself or another player.
Therefore, a player cannot touch the ball, rim, or net while the ball is on the rim or within the basket. Again, a player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the rim. These are examples of basket interference and in the example of our debate; the ball is not in the imaginary cylinder so there can be no Basket Interference call.
When the ball is in that cylinder, neither an offensive or defensive player may touch the ball. The players are allowed to touch the rim, net or flange while the ball is in the cylinder (NFHS 4-6-2; NCAA4-5-2b). The second situation occurs when the ball is on or within the basket. When the ball is on or within the basket, a player cannot touch the ball or any part of the basket (NFHS 4-6-1; NCAA 4-5-2a).
Rule 4-6: Basket Interference (See rule book for exact language)
There are two separate situations that apply to basket interference that are critical in understanding the rule. The first situation occurs when the ball is in the imaginary cylinder that has the ring as its base and extends all the way to the ceiling.
It would not be basket interference because the ball is not in the imaginary cylinder above the rim. In this particular situation, the rule in question is regarding Goaltending not Basket Interference and the following is my argument based on the NFHS rules:
In the High School game if you award 2 points for Basket Interference when (as you state you would do) a player shoots the ball and it hits the backboard before it hits the rim and the defensive player touches the ball, you would be wrong and dinged if you were being evaluated.
absolutely correct call. There was no foul on the play. Look closely. The offensive player just throws himself in the air, in anticipation of getting hit. The defender just flopped backwards, and the offensive player threw himself on the ground.
pause the video as soon as the guy picks up his dribble, the defender isn't anywhere near in position to take a charge. a no call is a terrible call. obvious blocking foul.
that was a good call - no foul occurred. I hate when morons like this uploader think they know the rules but in reality have no fucking clue what the fuck they are talking about.
Blocking foul. The defender was still moving and wasn't on time to stand still. These things get me so pissed @ my games. When you go up and a defender just is taking you down. You may think when you are out of balance and fall, you'll get severly injured!
ok 5 white vs 5 black, you kno how this shit is going down b4 they even started. and i thought no call at 0:06 cuz that center travel big time who he think he is? lebron?
i feel like the guy who tried to take the charged got scared and flopped out of the way, and the guy shooting the layup flopped. the block was nice and clean
In the NBA that would have been a blocking foul. He tried to draw the offensive foul but his feet weren't planted. punch of pussy rules anyways. way too many stoppages in play in Bball.
This is high school basketball. you don't have to be set like you do in the NBA. That should have been called a charge. Plus, the guy was there before the offensive player started his upward movement.
definitely not a charge. I am going off NCAA rules, which are the same as HS. There is no official rule like the NBA but it is very rare to a call that far under the basket. And the def wasn't established, if anything it was blocking
@superbowlbound high school basketball uses NFHS rules. It doesn't look like he has that far under the basket, but I would have to actually see what the rule says.
In hs basketball, a player can be in the air, another player can get set while the player is in the air and get the charge call.
only foul here should be a blocking foul at the end there.... the guys going airborn and the defender slides under.. its either a no-call or block, but it's flat out dangerous to step in underneath a guy whos in the air. call the block
If you call anything, it's a block. The defensive player never obtained legal guarding position. However, from this angle, it appears that the defender started falling before any contact occurred and it looks like the offensive player was in a complete forward lean and out of control on the layup. Also, if you look at it, the official closest to the play had a terrible angle. It would have been a guess if anything. That happens in basketball, especially in 2 man crews.
there was no over the back foul ...players must be physical...anyone who calls over the back is just making the game weak...and most likely have not ref'd a high standard of ball.
that def is a blocking foul..defender got there latethe guy is already in his stride..any later and could have been unsportsman like as it could be considered tunneling but no i would just call blocking.
def no goal tending ball is in flight up and gets knocked onto the board...white 33 def big time travel...
acceptable no call on last play. no contact and looked worse than it was. defender did not get set and slid away while player with ball went up weak and out of control.
There were 3 things not called that I saw. On the left end of the floor there is an over the back and at the other end there is defeinately a foul there and a goal tend. 1 in 3 high school officials have no business officiating games. I have seen a thousand high school basketball games and I know when a game is being slanted towards one team or another by the refs.
lol the trail missed the over the back on that end and then missed a block .. if this is varsity level .. this ref should be moved down to freshman lol
To me it looks like there's contact between the white (offensive player) and the green. If I had a better view, I could say for sure, but based on this video defender looks set, so I'd call a charge.
I agree that there was a travel by green, one could also argue offensive foul by with the elbow on green as well. As for the block Charge. Bodies hit the floor a call has to be made. The question to ask, did the defender establish a legal guarding position? If you can answer yes, then its a charge, if no, then its a block. The lead ref. got beat on the play and was out of position to make the call. In my opinion, the defender flopped and a block should have been called.
Over the back around the 8 or 9 second mark. The foul around the 13-14 second mark, there has to be something. Didn't look set, but offense came in pretty hard. But regardless what's called, something has to be called because there is way to much contact on the play to let it go.
Ive ref'd a good number of games in the past year and a half and I enjoy doing it. First I want to point out the travel violation around about 0:04 secs.. secondly i think this was a good NO CALL by the referee. The defensive player's feet were set and the offensive player jumped into the defender. Good no call.
The travel at around 0:04 seconds was the only thing I saw, I thought that was what the video was pointing out as it wasn't called, what was it, 4-5 steps
he isnt horrible, if u ask most ppl that is just like aau basketball every summer, the refs let ppl play more aggresively and sometimes that is a good thing
ok clearly u dont kno basketball very well, there was a foul but on who it could of gone either way, it could of been a charge on the dribbler, or it could of been a body on the person who stood there and got ran over, the way u can tell if it is a charge or a body call is if the defender has his feet set before he gets ran over and by looking at the video i would say its a body cuz the defender didnt have his feet set
In HS ball, the defender in green flopped constitutes a technical foul. I don't agree that the guy in white flopped. I believe that he expected contact that did not happen because the guy in green flopped.
i think it was a good no call, you could have called a blocking foul, and i dont think his shot would have been blocked if that hadn't occourd. that being said gotta go to the rack harder than that no soft stuff.
Forget about the foul, what about the travel in the beginning when the guy from the green team was doing his post move. He took like three steps before he started dribbling.
This seems like a decent level game, so I wouldn't call anything. I guess you could sell a block as the green player barely got to his guarding position within acceptable bounds of time and distance, but I'm not convinced.
There was, atleast three missed cals in that clip. First, the kid in the post travels clearly when he gets the ball, THEN goes over the back. And on the other end, the kid gets his feet set so if anything it should have been called a charge.
What about Basket Interference? Kind of grainy video, but it appears that the Slot official would have a great view of this, from what I saw it appears that the shot was blocked after it made contact with the backboard. (Shot hits backboard then gets blocked)
Shot was still going up. In HS, it does not matter if it hits the backboard then gets blocked. If its still going up and then blocked, its a legal play.
you seem to be mixing up your rules. In the NBA, once it hits the backboard, if a player touches the ball, its basket interference. In HS (which is what this game is), the ball can still be on an upward flight even though it his the backboard. So no, I'm not f@$#ing kidding you...
See this is where you are mixing up rules. The flight of the ball up/down determines if a shot is goaltended or not. Basket interference is something completely different from goaltending. and it has nothing to do if the shot is still going up. Once the shot hits the board the balls "flight" is over thus a goaltending call cant be since it has hit the board or rim and the basket interference rules now apply.
@A4shizl Really? I don't know about you but I am holding in my hand my 2010 NFHS rule and case book, the same ones I used to score a 100% on the certification test which allowed me to ref over 40 highschool games this year and I will tell you this...if a player shoots the ball and it hits the backboard and before it hits the rim the defensive player touches the ball it is basket interence and I am awarding 2 points. Now please tell me what section of what rule you are referring to?
@chitownref ..If its credentials you want then here are mine. I have been officiating HS basket ball in southern California for the past 11 years averaging 35 games per season 25 of which are varsity games. I've officiated the play offs each of the last 8 seasons and have gone as deep as the ¼ finals. In my officiating career, I have read the rule book more times than I care to remember and taken 11 qualification exams (the lowest score I received was 89 and the highest was 99%).
@chitownref If its credentials you want then here are mine. I have been officiating HS basket ball in southern California for the past 11 years averaging 35 games per season 25 of which are varsity games. I've officiated the play offs each of the last 8 seasons and have gone as deep as the ¼ finals.
from what the video shows, there are two potential calls, now regardless of what is right, the ref should be able to sell both. From wat i see, the player makes an attempt to establish group befor the offensive playa gets der, unfortunately i believe he didnt hav substantial time to get set, within his perimeter and not of the offensive players.. so it should be blockin foul..because it was excessive the ref could easily sell a blockin foul.
Video is not too good, but from what I can tell it appears that the defender beat the offensive player to the spot and established LGP a split second before contact.
However it is really, really close. When a call is this close and could go either way, my philosophy is to protect the airborne shooter. I would call a block and go with two shots.
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if you stupid people didnt see and stup bullshiting on this video that nothing happend here then watch it again, there was an epic travel
MrCrazyMM 4 months ago
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MrCrazyMM 4 months ago
that travel is hilarious and ref is looking right at him
Oca15 6 months ago
lol 4 likes 20 dislikes.
DJDancinRick 8 months ago
epic travel by green low-post guy
RileyLeff 8 months ago 3
i like how all the comments are from one guy rambling on about something
Burgee6143 10 months ago 3
The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending only occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the rim level and has the possibility of entering the basket. In my argument, because the ball is not on its downward flight it does not meet the conditions of Goaltending so no violation can occur. On most layups, the ball is going up after it contacts the backboard.
A4shizl 10 months ago
@A4shizl your a loser
rsoxdp15 9 months ago
Rule 4-22: Goaltending (See rule book for exact language)
There are three conditions that must be present for a goaltending violation to occur. First, the ball must be above the rim when contacted by the defender. Second, the ball must be on its downward flight when contacted by the defender. Finally, the ball must have a chance to go in. If one of those conditions is missing from a play, a goaltending violation cannot occur (NFHS 4-22; NCAA 4-34).
A4shizl 10 months ago
It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. It is also legal to hang on the ring if a player is avoiding an injury to himself or herself or another player.
A4shizl 10 months ago
Therefore, a player cannot touch the ball, rim, or net while the ball is on the rim or within the basket. Again, a player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the rim. These are examples of basket interference and in the example of our debate; the ball is not in the imaginary cylinder so there can be no Basket Interference call.
A4shizl 10 months ago
When the ball is in that cylinder, neither an offensive or defensive player may touch the ball. The players are allowed to touch the rim, net or flange while the ball is in the cylinder (NFHS 4-6-2; NCAA4-5-2b). The second situation occurs when the ball is on or within the basket. When the ball is on or within the basket, a player cannot touch the ball or any part of the basket (NFHS 4-6-1; NCAA 4-5-2a).
A4shizl 10 months ago
Rule 4-6: Basket Interference (See rule book for exact language)
There are two separate situations that apply to basket interference that are critical in understanding the rule. The first situation occurs when the ball is in the imaginary cylinder that has the ring as its base and extends all the way to the ceiling.
A4shizl 10 months ago
It would not be basket interference because the ball is not in the imaginary cylinder above the rim. In this particular situation, the rule in question is regarding Goaltending not Basket Interference and the following is my argument based on the NFHS rules:
A4shizl 10 months ago
In the High School game if you award 2 points for Basket Interference when (as you state you would do) a player shoots the ball and it hits the backboard before it hits the rim and the defensive player touches the ball, you would be wrong and dinged if you were being evaluated.
A4shizl 10 months ago
absolutely correct call. There was no foul on the play. Look closely. The offensive player just throws himself in the air, in anticipation of getting hit. The defender just flopped backwards, and the offensive player threw himself on the ground.
jahazielgarcia 11 months ago
If he is standing there and they collide then it has to be a foul you retard "girl"
DaStud1717 11 months ago
Any play that has both players on the floor like that there should be A CALL. You cant swallow your whistle on that. I see a block call on that.
hiene2000 11 months ago 2
That dude must be nigerian or something cause he cant be black walking like that
770Entkjm 11 months ago
Well it would either be a Block or a charge.
lvfootballnick 11 months ago
pause the video as soon as the guy picks up his dribble, the defender isn't anywhere near in position to take a charge. a no call is a terrible call. obvious blocking foul.
salemram15 1 year ago
That's a pretty clear blocking foul. The defender had not yet established a stationary position in front of the offensive player. Simple stuff.
nywt1 1 year ago
NO FOUL HE WAS STANDING there they collided smart one...
girlwhocancheck 1 year ago
you stupid refs if you called a bogus foul we wouldve won!
TheFRESH116 1 year ago
BLOCK OR A CHARGE my coach says that to refs lol cracks me up he doesnt care he just wants a call
xygroundzero 1 year ago
lol huge walk at 0:05 geezus..
DiamondDaleMcPherson 1 year ago
The ref was correct. His foot was in the prohibited zone.
aznjetblaster 1 year ago
that was a good call - no foul occurred. I hate when morons like this uploader think they know the rules but in reality have no fucking clue what the fuck they are talking about.
rookiekf123 1 year ago 2
it was a good call defender just made postion as offender took off to close to give a foul to ever player
scottypurpleandgold 1 year ago
this isnt good basketball. the teams suck
BOKnows1450 1 year ago
Your probably pretty stupid if you think thats a foul
abrahamadam2 1 year ago
Blocking foul. The defender was still moving and wasn't on time to stand still. These things get me so pissed @ my games. When you go up and a defender just is taking you down. You may think when you are out of balance and fall, you'll get severly injured!
maestroballer 1 year ago
If anything it was an offensive foul.
alifeofreason 1 year ago
@alifeofreason No, it's a blocking foul.
IIKeRsEyII 1 year ago
ok 5 white vs 5 black, you kno how this shit is going down b4 they even started. and i thought no call at 0:06 cuz that center travel big time who he think he is? lebron?
s8715053122004 1 year ago
Had the walk been called on the green team. At 0.05 seconds in the video. The fast break would have never happened.
138stephen 1 year ago
good no call both flopped
danthestyxfan 1 year ago
it probably even is offensive
AqelXico 1 year ago
i feel like the guy who tried to take the charged got scared and flopped out of the way, and the guy shooting the layup flopped. the block was nice and clean
jasonkirchman 1 year ago
Good no call on the potentional over-the-back at the beginning. Should have been some sort of whistle at the end. Definite blocking foul.
63IRISH63 1 year ago
only thing missed was the kid being told never again to bring that weak shit near the basket.
kb1kb1 1 year ago
In the NBA that would have been a blocking foul. He tried to draw the offensive foul but his feet weren't planted. punch of pussy rules anyways. way too many stoppages in play in Bball.
jeroliver 1 year ago
I though the no call was when the dude in the green travelled in the beginning
gmeeker2 1 year ago
maybe he should find a different route to the basket... good no call
memphistigers777 1 year ago
Blocking foul
TODD10PARILLO 1 year ago
That's either no call or just a blocking call. The defender dude/guy/person thing just slid under the other person and got hit.
UltimateFpsG0d 1 year ago
I don't even know why the white guy fell? The first defender planted to draw a charge and the second defender blocked it cleanly?
djdestroyer 1 year ago
I agree with that both of them flopped
danthestyxfan 1 year ago
pansy ass basketball players
Blakekx80 1 year ago
the guy who uploaded this probbly dnt kno how to play
ram98872 1 year ago
i dont see what you are complaining about
lacrgodosse 1 year ago 3
why can't they play with a shot clock of 24 seconds? it's fcking high school..
walteur 1 year ago
correct no call by the ref
sendynicaze 1 year ago
@sendynicaze lol you just completely copied what superbowlbound said.
GrammyDude22 1 year ago
LOL i thought the call was about the travel in the beginning. dude crab walked
TheTallestBaller1 1 year ago
CHARGE IF ANYTHING
Markeezy716 1 year ago
@Markeezy716 not really the defender wasnt set andhe went under the offensive player after he was airborn
jazzfan002 1 year ago
There has to be contact for there to be a foul. Good no call. Defender leaned back expecting a charge and no contact occured.
31Uwe 1 year ago
@31Uwe the one that blocked him and kicked the guy in the face while he was in the air
dark9dragon 1 year ago
First travel then a blocking foul then a goal tending then a travel again man those refs do suck
bigboy32playa 1 year ago
it clearly wasn't a foul if u look at the replay. not a goaltending, but the last one was def a travel
Qboy316 1 year ago
correct no call by the ref
superbowlbound 2 years ago 53
@superbowlbound how is that a correct no call by the ref?
slatchem2016 1 year ago
Could have been a blocking, but the refs don't have to call it so close to the basket (it is a judgment call).
superbowlbound 1 year ago
@superbowlbound
This is high school basketball. you don't have to be set like you do in the NBA. That should have been called a charge. Plus, the guy was there before the offensive player started his upward movement.
slatchem2016 1 year ago
definitely not a charge. I am going off NCAA rules, which are the same as HS. There is no official rule like the NBA but it is very rare to a call that far under the basket. And the def wasn't established, if anything it was blocking
superbowlbound 1 year ago
@superbowlbound high school basketball uses NFHS rules. It doesn't look like he has that far under the basket, but I would have to actually see what the rule says.
In hs basketball, a player can be in the air, another player can get set while the player is in the air and get the charge call.
slatchem2016 1 year ago
@superbowlbound Thats what happens when you show lil' respect for your opposition and put up a weak ass layup. Sweet block!!!
pabarrie23 1 year ago
only foul here should be a blocking foul at the end there.... the guys going airborn and the defender slides under.. its either a no-call or block, but it's flat out dangerous to step in underneath a guy whos in the air. call the block
FireWaterBurn 2 years ago 21
they lettin them boys play.
somenephew 2 years ago
he got to the spot first but he did flop. Good no call!
kbland3001 2 years ago
If you call anything, it's a block. The defensive player never obtained legal guarding position. However, from this angle, it appears that the defender started falling before any contact occurred and it looks like the offensive player was in a complete forward lean and out of control on the layup. Also, if you look at it, the official closest to the play had a terrible angle. It would have been a guess if anything. That happens in basketball, especially in 2 man crews.
minnecoachman 2 years ago
Block. the feet werent set
djizzle62 2 years ago
Block - easy call.
rickincalgary 2 years ago
thats was a charge
rootber200 2 years ago
Blocking foul on green
John17815 2 years ago
there was no over the back foul ...players must be physical...anyone who calls over the back is just making the game weak...and most likely have not ref'd a high standard of ball.
that def is a blocking foul..defender got there latethe guy is already in his stride..any later and could have been unsportsman like as it could be considered tunneling but no i would just call blocking.
def no goal tending ball is in flight up and gets knocked onto the board...white 33 def big time travel...
chocymachado 2 years ago
Agree
John17815 2 years ago
lol the guy that did the hook shot traveled
nonameddog 2 years ago 2
acceptable no call on last play. no contact and looked worse than it was. defender did not get set and slid away while player with ball went up weak and out of control.
bigmikeho 2 years ago
There were 3 things not called that I saw. On the left end of the floor there is an over the back and at the other end there is defeinately a foul there and a goal tend. 1 in 3 high school officials have no business officiating games. I have seen a thousand high school basketball games and I know when a game is being slanted towards one team or another by the refs.
sxwrulz 2 years ago
lol the trail missed the over the back on that end and then missed a block .. if this is varsity level .. this ref should be moved down to freshman lol
hotsauce61488 2 years ago
looked like a flop to me? maybe a blocking foul by nothing else?
kbonita25 2 years ago
good call
hermit507 2 years ago
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First a travel on the green post player.
Second a push in the back on green during the rebound.
Third a block foul on the green defender on the shot. (the block on the shot was clean)
ThatIMayServe 2 years ago
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ThatIMayServe 2 years ago
Ehh no call
jeffscottdoug 2 years ago
i read al these comments and i see there are way too many fouls in basketball.... just let them play
JamieRiley3 2 years ago
To me it looks like there's contact between the white (offensive player) and the green. If I had a better view, I could say for sure, but based on this video defender looks set, so I'd call a charge.
mcaacmpsr07 2 years ago
we too
uchiemamba 2 years ago
Flop
TacoMeATreeXD 2 years ago
no foul
lilJoeMaster3000 2 years ago
charging
hayitsmo 2 years ago
I agree that there was a travel by green, one could also argue offensive foul by with the elbow on green as well. As for the block Charge. Bodies hit the floor a call has to be made. The question to ask, did the defender establish a legal guarding position? If you can answer yes, then its a charge, if no, then its a block. The lead ref. got beat on the play and was out of position to make the call. In my opinion, the defender flopped and a block should have been called.
A4shizl 2 years ago
travel, then pushing on rebound (over the back) .. then an obviuos blocking foul ...
corrymac 2 years ago
shoulda been a blocking foul
FireWaterBurn 2 years ago
good block no foul
mrblackness3131 2 years ago
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mrblackness3131 2 years ago
pussy
ACTTS34 2 years ago 2
Over the back around the 8 or 9 second mark. The foul around the 13-14 second mark, there has to be something. Didn't look set, but offense came in pretty hard. But regardless what's called, something has to be called because there is way to much contact on the play to let it go.
awbuckles87 2 years ago 2
Ive ref'd a good number of games in the past year and a half and I enjoy doing it. First I want to point out the travel violation around about 0:04 secs.. secondly i think this was a good NO CALL by the referee. The defensive player's feet were set and the offensive player jumped into the defender. Good no call.
TRAVISH87 2 years ago
The travel at around 0:04 seconds was the only thing I saw, I thought that was what the video was pointing out as it wasn't called, what was it, 4-5 steps
BroomeBlocker3 2 years ago
could have gone either way. good no call
kingbee10 2 years ago
agreed
imdaman765 2 years ago
gettup white boy, because the homeboys sure will
MrWeasel12 2 years ago
clean as a bean..
YPFC 2 years ago
he isnt horrible, if u ask most ppl that is just like aau basketball every summer, the refs let ppl play more aggresively and sometimes that is a good thing
indianabasketball98 2 years ago 2
Ok im not saying that I think that is a foul or not but, REFS ABSOLUTELY SUCK NOWADAYS!
Le1372o7V 2 years ago
Then you should join an association and go officiate game so you can help the refs look better!
A4shizl 2 years ago
he got his ass blocked.
no foul
beastin4sho 2 years ago 3
ok clearly u dont kno basketball very well, there was a foul but on who it could of gone either way, it could of been a charge on the dribbler, or it could of been a body on the person who stood there and got ran over, the way u can tell if it is a charge or a body call is if the defender has his feet set before he gets ran over and by looking at the video i would say its a body cuz the defender didnt have his feet set
TheBallinHawk 2 years ago
*cough cough*
Don't need to have feet set to take a charge! Ask a senior ref about it!
Antonz4 2 years ago
that wasnt even a foul. grow some balls and take it like a man
MrSargent09 2 years ago 2
yeah i agree is a normal play i dont see no foul over there he just kiss the floor
EL23JOKER 2 years ago
yeah good no call, the player who shot tried to avoid the contact, the defensive guy flopped. this video sucks
xxNtGxx 2 years ago
there was a travel in the begin n the foul at the end could of gone either way
elmo23532 2 years ago
I agree
razgriz04 2 years ago
OMG! That ref is horrible! That was blatant charging foul!
Bobalukey 2 years ago
No foul White guy flopped and so did green guy no contact no foul
airsoftmasta12 2 years ago
In HS ball, the defender in green flopped constitutes a technical foul. I don't agree that the guy in white flopped. I believe that he expected contact that did not happen because the guy in green flopped.
A4shizl 2 years ago
who in the hell traveled?
tywonellington 2 years ago
no faul for me... normal play
the attacker should charge and smash the defender the $%^ back
yes he would have a offensive faul but better that than a block like that...
krzychomistrz 2 years ago
that was a blocking foul... the guy was still moving when he tried to draw the charge
pitbull2890 2 years ago
that should have been a charge actually
paintball53master 2 years ago
That was a clean block, good no call in my opinion.
chasethechamp 2 years ago
"what was that" hahahahjahahahahaha
vladimir4200 2 years ago
wow that was a fresh block
broncofan966 2 years ago
idk about the call... but tht block was hot
hitman114 2 years ago
wat did they not call
FAVRE4FOOTBALL 2 years ago 2
WTF!!! yall are crazy man it was traveling damn
steelrs 2 years ago
u realise he traveled right everyones tlkn about a blockin foul
SuitYourselfT 2 years ago
i think it was a good no call, you could have called a blocking foul, and i dont think his shot would have been blocked if that hadn't occourd. that being said gotta go to the rack harder than that no soft stuff.
seaLIFFY 2 years ago
yeah no foul. that was a flop and then his shit got blocked. good eye by the ref
Hagarheadou812 2 years ago
exactly right
tommasino23 2 years ago
Forget about the foul, what about the travel in the beginning when the guy from the green team was doing his post move. He took like three steps before he started dribbling.
kingmeat13 2 years ago
This seems like a decent level game, so I wouldn't call anything. I guess you could sell a block as the green player barely got to his guarding position within acceptable bounds of time and distance, but I'm not convinced.
mattk000 3 years ago
Your right I can not believe no foul was called, that was charging all the way. Technical foul on the offense.
Bobalukey 3 years ago
not a foul
bballvideomaker 3 years ago
no one on youtube nows basketball over the back is if u hit them or grab them and that was not a fowl at all
rampage005511 3 years ago
god your spelling is awful...but yeah you are right...just because there is contact, it does not necessarily constitute a foul.
rookiekf123 3 years ago
no adfense but if the kid hitting the ball is where you wanted the foul it was clean
breakyourface2410 3 years ago
I would call it a block since the defender did obtain an position with his feet but shifted his body enough to let the foul become a block.
The video quality and angle also vary in this assumption.
tlg0193 3 years ago
There was, atleast three missed cals in that clip. First, the kid in the post travels clearly when he gets the ball, THEN goes over the back. And on the other end, the kid gets his feet set so if anything it should have been called a charge.
dudey4242 3 years ago
agree on the first one, not on the second 2. the last was def a flop.
Qboy316 3 years ago
What about Basket Interference? Kind of grainy video, but it appears that the Slot official would have a great view of this, from what I saw it appears that the shot was blocked after it made contact with the backboard. (Shot hits backboard then gets blocked)
engine1411 3 years ago
Shot was still going up. In HS, it does not matter if it hits the backboard then gets blocked. If its still going up and then blocked, its a legal play.
A4shizl 2 years ago
So how can a shot be still in its upward path to the basket if it has already hit the board?
chitownref 2 years ago
just because it hits the back board does not mean it stop traveling in an upward flight..
A4shizl 2 years ago
Are you fucking kiddin me? It means that once it hits the backboard its flight is over!
chitownref 2 years ago
you seem to be mixing up your rules. In the NBA, once it hits the backboard, if a player touches the ball, its basket interference. In HS (which is what this game is), the ball can still be on an upward flight even though it his the backboard. So no, I'm not f@$#ing kidding you...
A4shizl 2 years ago
See this is where you are mixing up rules. The flight of the ball up/down determines if a shot is goaltended or not. Basket interference is something completely different from goaltending. and it has nothing to do if the shot is still going up. Once the shot hits the board the balls "flight" is over thus a goaltending call cant be since it has hit the board or rim and the basket interference rules now apply.
chitownref 2 years ago
@chitownref
not in the High school game...
A4shizl 10 months ago
@A4shizl Really? I don't know about you but I am holding in my hand my 2010 NFHS rule and case book, the same ones I used to score a 100% on the certification test which allowed me to ref over 40 highschool games this year and I will tell you this...if a player shoots the ball and it hits the backboard and before it hits the rim the defensive player touches the ball it is basket interence and I am awarding 2 points. Now please tell me what section of what rule you are referring to?
chitownref 10 months ago
@chitownref ..If its credentials you want then here are mine. I have been officiating HS basket ball in southern California for the past 11 years averaging 35 games per season 25 of which are varsity games. I've officiated the play offs each of the last 8 seasons and have gone as deep as the ¼ finals. In my officiating career, I have read the rule book more times than I care to remember and taken 11 qualification exams (the lowest score I received was 89 and the highest was 99%).
A4shizl 10 months ago
@A4shizl . . .
Account4TheMusic 9 months ago
@chitownref If its credentials you want then here are mine. I have been officiating HS basket ball in southern California for the past 11 years averaging 35 games per season 25 of which are varsity games. I've officiated the play offs each of the last 8 seasons and have gone as deep as the ¼ finals.
A4shizl 10 months ago
OKOK LETS SETTLE THIS...
i'm a ref
from what the video shows, there are two potential calls, now regardless of what is right, the ref should be able to sell both. From wat i see, the player makes an attempt to establish group befor the offensive playa gets der, unfortunately i believe he didnt hav substantial time to get set, within his perimeter and not of the offensive players.. so it should be blockin foul..because it was excessive the ref could easily sell a blockin foul.
ratty4life 3 years ago
Video is not too good, but from what I can tell it appears that the defender beat the offensive player to the spot and established LGP a split second before contact.
However it is really, really close. When a call is this close and could go either way, my philosophy is to protect the airborne shooter. I would call a block and go with two shots.
kingsman1288 3 years ago
Good no call, the offensive player tried to act and get a foul and did too good of job of acting (or maybe not, since he didn't get the call.)
blazer003 3 years ago
wdf, nothing even happend? stupd video take it off youtube
AsianFabo 3 years ago 2
if anything it was a charge..
ChitownMicMecca 3 years ago 3
WHAT IS THAT REF'S PROBLEM??
jimmy1992518 3 years ago